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Post by obbie1984 on Dec 14, 2017 7:15:16 GMT
I like how the scene still work even unromanced. (which I have no screenies for since I never go this far to play Kaidan unromanced anyway.) But with some subtle but stark difference, he didn't turn on the news about Earth. Haven't you ever done the scene with broshep? It works great as well. But as I've said before Kaidan works great with any gender or type of character. All his scenes come off as plausible regardless. Which is a shame because I think Ashley is considerably weaker if you don't romance her. But yeah, I love that scene after he cooks dinner when he's your friend. Both options are funny but if you compliment him he says "I'm an enigma. I got skills." Makes me chuckle every time.
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Post by yan on Dec 15, 2017 18:27:02 GMT
I like how the scene still work even unromanced It's even better IMHO. The renegade options are very funny, Shepard spends all the time messing with him, but the writing is great, you can feel the camaraderie between this two friends. edit: here, both paragon and renegade
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Post by obbie1984 on Dec 16, 2017 0:18:47 GMT
I like how the scene still work even unromanced It's even better IMHO. The renegade options are very funny, Shepard spends all the time messing with him, but the writing is great, you can feel the camaraderie between this two friends. edit: here, both paragon and renegade Yup, they feel like bros fo sho. Okay I'll stop now.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Dec 16, 2017 9:00:47 GMT
I like how the scene still work even unromanced It's even better IMHO. The renegade options are very funny, Shepard spends all the time messing with him, but the writing is great, you can feel the camaraderie between this two friends. edit: here, both paragon and renegade Omg, I miss Kaidan so much. They will never top him. Ever!
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Post by bardox on Dec 20, 2017 11:49:40 GMT
Prior to ME3 I always let Kaidan die on Virmir. Didn't care for his character in ME1 or the brief appearance in ME2. His character in ME3 though is far superior to Ashley's character. He has become more than he was while Ash is pretty much the same just with bigger boobs. I do like the conflict between Liara and Ashley, but the over all story of Kaidan Alenko is just better than that of Ashley Williams. ME3 saved Kaidan's life on Virmir.
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Post by obbie1984 on Dec 20, 2017 23:52:49 GMT
Prior to ME3 I always let Kaidan die on Virmir. Didn't care for his character in ME1 or the brief appearance in ME2. His character in ME3 though is far superior to Ashley's character. He has become more than he was while Ash is pretty much the same just with bigger boobs. I do like the conflict between Liara and Ashley, but the over all story of Kaidan Alenko is just better than that of Ashley Williams. ME3 saved Kaidan's life on Virmir. I wish more people did this. Perhaps they would realize Kaidan is a better character than they realized. And sadly, I agree with you on Ashley. I think she is worse in ME3 compared to ME1, just with a make over. So that's why many people save her.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Dec 21, 2017 7:19:06 GMT
Ashley definitely deserved better. I always wished Ashley replaced Vega's place as Shepard's Lieutenant in ME3... and you just 2-man until you find Liara on Mars and she stays on your ship the whole time. She could reconnect with the ship and the crew, explore herself better, the whole N7 training thing and even you get better romance scenes... But according to Bioware's trailers and promotions (and majority of this fandom), Ashley seems to be a default survivor on Virmire but she never seem to be written for the Spectre role in ME3. And because of this, majority who never let Kaidan alive simply assumed he shared identical scene by scene to Ashley.... when its really not...
Kaidan on the other hand doesn't need much to explain his presence in ME3. Vancouver was his home with his parents. He was already an experienced military officer through the trilogy and he and Shepard was with Anderson since the beginning and being a Spectre seems like a natural path for both of them. And unlike Ashley, he and Vega were both from Earth and have family left behind and very deeply invested in reclaiming their home back. I like that things like this was shown to you rather than told...
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Post by Chiantirose on Dec 21, 2017 20:23:52 GMT
Just finished another ME3 run and I'm just a wreck now for a couple days, always happens lol. After beating Citadel I just get sadder and sadder, not because of the ending, but because I doubt I'll ever have another Video game couple that's so dear to my heart ever again from BioWare.
Man, I just feel so bad for Kaidan losing Shepard AGAIN! Think about it, you lose a loved one and get them back by some crazy chance and then lose them again. I'd be living out the rest of my life in a mental institution somewhere.
I understand the whole "open for personal interpretation" and I usually go with Detroy. So my Shep gets rescued and her and Kaidan have a long break before going back to work, but unless BioWare makes another ME with Shep that's all it is, just a head canon.
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Post by L2 Sentinel on Dec 21, 2017 21:35:12 GMT
Though BioWare did not set it up well at all and clearly didn't think things through with that breath scene, it seems like their intention was to imply that Shepard could be alive. After months and months of struggling with the ending in my head, I finally got to a place where I can just accept it for what it is. I believe Shepard lives because I just cannot accept the alternatives. It would have been nice if Shepard's survival was unambiguous if you had high enough EMS and chose the Destroy ending, and those who actually like the ambiguity could just have middle EMS while low EMS would result in Shepard dying.
My Shepard definitely takes a long time to recover, but once he does, he and Kaidan get married and continue serving the Alliance and the Counsel. They request that the Counsel only send them on Spectre missions together, and the counsel honors that request. They acknowledge that the two of them are most effective when working together anyway, and I mean, how could they refuse the saviors of the galaxy? In return, Shepard doesn't rub it in their faces that he warned them about the reapers for years and they ignored him.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Dec 22, 2017 3:56:10 GMT
There are others who survived Citadel. Aria and Bailey and Dr Michel and Conrad Verner are still on the station and after scanning transmission, I assumed they were on their way to the Presidium tower to provide backup for Shep.
But Destroy's beam destroyed a lot of Cerberus implants within my Shepard. She had to be under medically induced coma for several years for her body to heal properly. When she woke up, she was rendered paralyzed. I don't see her ever returning to be a soldier again that part of Shepard was done. And Kaidan retired with her and they live happily.
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Post by Chiantirose on Dec 22, 2017 17:14:58 GMT
It's nice to see everyone's head canon. It is kind of amazing how a video game can do that. I'm really hoping that BW gives us another game that makes me care (at least for me) which would mean they stick with a protagonist again, like Shep. Andromeda might have that potential, but they certainly didn't start off on the right foot. Dragon Age is notorious for their changing Heroes, so I don't see it coming from there. Anthem? That'll just be a game I play with friends here and there.
But even if they decide to continue with Shep and find a good explanation why everything happened. He/She isn't getting younger. How old is Shep in ME3? 30 something? And what else could they do in the Milky Way other than clean up from the Reapers, that doesn't really sound like something I want to play through, heh.
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Post by fraggle on Dec 22, 2017 18:22:58 GMT
For me Shepard's story ended with ME3 and I'm happy with that. My headcanon is similar to some of you guys' in that Shepard survives with the breath scene. I've also had some Shepards die already, but some live retired and happily ever after with their LI Also, it was confirmed by the devs that the breath scene indicates Shepard is alive (gamerant.com/mass-effect-3-destroy-ending-shepard-alive-tao-157961/). I know some people long for some bigger sort of closure, but personally I find it awesome that the ending is left up to the player's imagination. I can do a looot with that and I'm happy about it, thus I also prefer for Bioware to not touch Shepard anymore
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Post by Chiantirose on Dec 22, 2017 20:28:06 GMT
Yeah, I'm fine with Shep's story being over. I think I get nostalgic when I replay the ME Trilogy, because it's the only one where you play your character through 3 games and I got very attached to those games and it always stings a bit when it's over.
Shepard's role was to take care of the Reapers and with them gone, her/his work is done.
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Post by fraggle on Dec 22, 2017 21:52:40 GMT
Yeah, I'm fine with Shep's story being over. I think I get nostalgic when I replay the ME Trilogy, because it's the only one where you play your character through 3 games and I got very attached to those games and it always stings a bit when it's over. I'm the same, that's why I pretty much never stop playing the ME trilogy It's quite hard for me to play other games, I often miss the trilogy when I do.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 23, 2017 6:49:45 GMT
Reality is that, since I always romance Kaidan, I want Shepard to live because I can't stand thinking about a heartbroken Kaidan. I want that happily ever after for John and Kaidan.
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Post by L2 Sentinel on Dec 23, 2017 7:08:29 GMT
Reality is that, since I always romance Kaidan, I want Shepard to live because I can't stand thinking about a heartbroken Kaidan. I want that happily ever after for John and Kaidan. That's exactly why I can't accept an ending where Shepard dies. It crushes me to think of Kaidan having to live his life without him. The best part is that human life expectancy in the Mass Effect Universe is about 150 years, and they are only in their 30's. They get to spend over a century together, and thinking about that makes me so happy. Also, it was confirmed by the devs that the breath scene indicates Shepard is alive (gamerant.com/mass-effect-3-destroy-ending-shepard-alive-tao-157961/). Thanks for the link! It's always good to have my headcanon supported by the game instead of having to rewrite or ignore actual canon to make it work.
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Post by jrpN7 on Dec 23, 2017 13:27:46 GMT
Hey you drop dead gorgeous peeps. I need your help. I read orgasmic amazing fanfics of mShenko on DeviantArt once upon a time. They filled my soul. Even now, about 5 years or so later, I remember tidbits of them. Do any of you have other really stellar fanfics that are your favorites and can you link me to them? I want to read them! I need literature to complete my currently aching soul! I'm good with the pics. I have a folder on my computer filled to the brim with hundreds of mShenko pics. LMAO. Anyway, greatly appreciate it.
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Hey you drop dead gorgeous peeps. I need your help. I read orgasmic amazing fanfics of mShenko on DeviantArt once upon a time. They filled my soul. Even now, about 5 years or so later, I remember tidbits of them. Do any of you have other really stellar fanfics that are your favorites and can you link me to them? I want to read them! I need literature to complete my currently aching soul! I'm good with the pics. I have a folder on my computer filled to the brim with hundreds of mShenko pics. LMAO. Anyway, greatly appreciate it. Try going to archiveofourown.org and doing a search. Start with Fandom: Mass Effect Trilogy, then m/m, then Male Shepard/Kaidan Alenko. You're sure to come up with plenty and new fics continue to be written. You could also go to Tumblr and type "mshenko" into a search engine.
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Post by Dukemon on Dec 26, 2017 12:22:13 GMT
I have played Mass Effect 1 with the SameSexMod and this playthrough was so fabulous. This relationship is so anther thing than in ME3, Kaidan is another one. His character development is very nice. Unfortunately, the german texts from Kaidan are a little bit confusing all of them, but this is ok. You do not have to understand everything. Or does he express himself cautiously in English, too? I mean, he rarely gets to the point and keeps everything very vague?
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 26, 2017 20:44:25 GMT
I have played Mass Effect 1 with the SameSexMod and this playthrough was so fabulous. This relationship is so anther thing than in ME3, Kaidan is another one. His character development is very nice. Unfortunately, the german texts from Kaidan are a little bit confusing all of them, but this is ok. You do not have to understand everything. Or does he express himself cautiously in English, too? I mean, he rarely gets to the point and keeps everything very vague? Yes, this sounds like Kaidan in any language. Even just before they almost kiss when the Normandy is locked down, Kaidan says "I always leave a way out." I think this is because he's talking to his commanding officer. He might not be so cautious outside of the chain of command.
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Post by Dukemon on Dec 26, 2017 21:08:35 GMT
Not even this line. In German he says something like 'Someone do not understand that he gets handed something on a silver pattern' I do not know it is the correct translation but the online dictionary said something this way.^^ On another way, he is saying that someone gets something served on a comfortable way but does not realized.
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Post by obbie1984 on Dec 27, 2017 0:31:11 GMT
I finally saw the Kaidan Citadel scene with femshep as a friend. I'm sorry, but that scene fits male Shepard way more. The voice acting is the main culprit. Femshep's VA sounds awful here. She's trying way too hard and overacts. Just feels more natural with broshep to me.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Dec 27, 2017 4:53:19 GMT
Certainly a lot more awkward especially renegade parts. She's trying to make a joke and get Kaidan to loosen up which he don't. He can be really cold and formal.
Which is fine really, Kaidan only warmed up in his romance. Just the way I like it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 27, 2017 15:29:30 GMT
Certainly a lot more awkward especially renegade parts. She's trying to make a joke and get Kaidan to loosen up which he don't. He can be really cold and formal. Which is fine really, Kaidan only warmed up in his romance. Just the way I like it. Makes sense that he wouldn't loosen up to a Renegade Shepard so easily. Kaidan is clearly a loyal Paragon type.
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