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Post by linksocarina on Mar 22, 2018 21:39:43 GMT
The setting alone is intriguing enough for me. Last Far Cry game I bought was 2, and the last one I played was 3.
I sort of liked 2, but I just don't get why folks like 3 so much...
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Post by linksocarina on Mar 22, 2018 22:00:44 GMT
The setting alone is intriguing enough for me. Seems to me par the course for the FC formula, or maybe I'm missing something? Same villain concept, very similar mechanics, etc. Maybe it's because I live in the U.S? I mean, I do live in NYC, so it's not a rural setting, but I know a lot of folks who have talked horror stories about their experiences in small towns and hardcore fanaticism encroaching on them. Plus we have a problem with cult-like shady preachers like Joel Osteen. This seems to be just the same scenario pumped to 11. That is honestly a refreshing setting for Far Cry. The random island in the Pacific and the random Tibetian mountaintop did little for me.
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Post by CHRrOME on Mar 23, 2018 0:35:04 GMT
The setting alone is intriguing enough for me. Seems to me par the course for the FC formula, or maybe I'm missing something? Same villain concept, very similar mechanics, etc. The mechanics are definitely the same apparently. Basically clear outpost and "liberate" the map, the only change that I've heard of was that you'll get sidequests by discovering stuff on your own instead of the old "liberate outpost and get a lot of shit afterwards", you find stuff along the road or something on those lines.
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 23, 2018 0:45:50 GMT
I kinda dig the setting, too. But "timesavers" makes me wary. I mean what is this shit? Either a game is fun and you don't need them or it's shit and you don't need them neither. Timesavers my ass - do people take them when they have sex? What would be the point to speed up a fun experience?
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Post by CHRrOME on Mar 23, 2018 1:30:55 GMT
I kinda dig the setting, too. But "timesavers" makes me wary. I mean what is this shit? Either a game is fun and you don't need them or it's shit and you don't need them neither. Timesavers my ass - do people take them when they have sex? What would be the point to speed up a fun experience? Exactly my thoughts. If you don't enjoy the game because it "takes too long" then don't play it, don't buy "time savers" and if the game happens to be designed around grinding, then it ain't worth your time anyways. I mean, we play to have fun, it's not a job to beat the game that we need speed-ups and what not. The mechanics are definitely the same apparently. Basically clear outpost and "liberate" the map, the only change that I've heard of was that you'll get sidequests by discovering stuff on your own instead of the old "liberate outpost and get a lot of shit afterwards", you find stuff along the road or something on those lines. Yeah, I'm kinda meh on the whole thing, I would probably get it regardless if not for the "time savers". That thing kinda takes out any excitement for me. I am/was interested, not sure, because although the game kinda looks fun, it doesn't look like a huge improvement over FC3, and FC4 was already a copy-paste of 3 mechanic wise. I'm not a fan at all of M$ in the game either.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Mar 23, 2018 3:32:21 GMT
The issue is Ubisoft creates the kind of game systems that would tempt someone to use time savers. They don't put enough variety in to populate the big worlds. I love Origins, but I wouldn't deny it's grindy as hell. Syndicate was way worse. Both Steep and For Honor integrate XP systems that facilitate microtransactions. It's not an ideal approach, but they're hardly the only devs guilty of this kind of thing given the popularity of huge open worlds now.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 23, 2018 12:11:15 GMT
Speculates for 9 minutes how shit it all is. Throws in a comment at the end that he hopes he's wrong. Great, that makes the video balanced...
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 27, 2018 11:23:22 GMT
And off we go, fun times... That is one creepy family... Clearing the 'tutorial area' went just fine, heading out into the wilds of Montana...
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Post by bshep on Mar 27, 2018 15:30:56 GMT
Shit, totally forgot this was out today...
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Post by jaison1986 on Mar 27, 2018 16:00:50 GMT
The game seems to be interesting from what I'm hearing. The story is better then I thought (all the sjws gloating how this game was going to be a "kill white nationalists simulator" will be very disappointed). And the ending was certanly... something else.
But I can't be helped but to feel how the game is pretty much a carbon copy of Far cry 4, with the only different things being characters, location and the fact the stupid towers are gone. Not so sure if I want to grind even more.
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Post by linksocarina on Mar 27, 2018 16:40:55 GMT
The game seems to be interesting from what I'm hearing. The story is better then I thought (all the sjws gloating how this game was going to be a "kill white nationalists simulator" will be very disappointed). And the ending was certanly... something else. But I can't be helped but to feel how the game is pretty much a carbon copy of Far cry 4, with the only different things being characters, location and the fact the stupid towers are gone. Not so sure if I want to grind even more. Better game than 3 to me so far.
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Post by jaison1986 on Mar 27, 2018 16:43:11 GMT
The game seems to be interesting from what I'm hearing. The story is better then I thought (all the sjws gloating how this game was going to be a "kill white nationalists simulator" will be very disappointed). And the ending was certanly... something else. But I can't be helped but to feel how the game is pretty much a carbon copy of Far cry 4, with the only different things being characters, location and the fact the stupid towers are gone. Not so sure if I want to grind even more. Better game than 3 to me so far. Really now? The game that is said to be the absolute best one in the whole series?
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Post by CHRrOME on Mar 27, 2018 20:59:02 GMT
Better game than 3 to me so far. Really now? The game that is said to be the absolute best one in the whole series? Not that I played the game, but for what I've seen on Twitch, is not so different from FC3 and by extension 4. I mean, sure it seems to be slightly different and there's a fishing mini game and what not, but at core is about the same features with some more fleshing out in some cases. Not that's necessarily bad, it's just not a "revolution" like 3 was to 2. If you want, you can check this review, it's pretty thorough:
IMO, gunplay could use a bit of work. Guns have no "punch" everything seems to be laser-beam accurate and the sounds are a bit arcadey. Also, the AI seems to be rather dumb which seems to be a norm ever since FC2.
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Post by simit on Mar 28, 2018 0:10:31 GMT
Watched skill ups review of it, he had problems with the amount of in game money you can get/earn to unlock new equipment but said the actual game is great with, what sounded like, some top tier writing for the campaign an some of the side quests.
It perked my interest tbh whereas before i wasn't much interested as the setting just didn't encourage me so to say but after watching his review, replaying older farcry titles abit and watching some various gameplay vids an seeing some basic squad mechanics an dialogue being threw back an forth i will admit now i'll prob just pick it up an try it out for myself.
Been currently going through Primal but all this talk of Black Flag got me itching to blow ships up an go a pirating, aarrgh
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Post by jaison1986 on Mar 28, 2018 1:37:58 GMT
The secret ending was crap. Far cry 4 did it way better.
The actual endings... were weird, to say at least. I think I'll discuss it in more detail once other people here see it.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Mar 28, 2018 1:45:00 GMT
The secret ending was crap. Far cry 4 did it way better.
The actual endings... were weird, to say at least. I think I'll discuss it in more detail once other people here see it. To me, it's brilliant. Imagine skipping through all the useless grind; nothing you do matters, it's all the same at the end. Imagine paying 60$, it would have been 70 for me, just to find out it can all end in 5 mins. It looks like I'll never be playing any FC. Witcher did better; I did at least hit on #1.
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Post by jaison1986 on Mar 28, 2018 1:55:31 GMT
The secret ending was crap. Far cry 4 did it way better.
The actual endings... were weird, to say at least. I think I'll discuss it in more detail once other people here see it. To me, it's brilliant. Imagine skipping through all the useless grind; nothing you do matters, it's all the same at the end. Imagine paying 60$, it would have been 70 for me, just to find out it can all end in 5 mins. It looks like I'll never be playing any FC. Witcher did better; I did at least hit on #1. Nah, this ending was nothing more then a throwback to the secret ending of Far cry 4. The devs likely only included it because the first time they did it the ending went viral on the internet. It feels lazy, you don't even have an idea of what may have happened after the scene ends. What happens in the actual endings is way more interesting. I'm seeing a lot of people getting angry at them. Personally, I'm more intrigued then bothered.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Mar 28, 2018 2:57:08 GMT
To me, it's brilliant. Imagine skipping through all the useless grind; nothing you do matters, it's all the same at the end. Imagine paying 60$, it would have been 70 for me, just to find out it can all end in 5 mins. It looks like I'll never be playing any FC. Witcher did better; I did at least hit on #1. Nah, this ending was nothing more then a throwback to the secret ending of Far cry 4. The devs likely only included it because the first time they did it the ending went viral on the internet. It feels lazy, you don't even have an idea of what may have happened after the scene ends. What happens in the actual endings is way more interesting. I'm seeing a lot of people getting angry at them. Personally, I'm more intrigued then bothered. Oh, FC4 implemented it first. Interesting. What is it about the ending that's rousing ire? The 'good' ending is protag rescues the party, walks away and then dies at the end. Bad ending, everyone dies except for the madman and protag, a nuclear bomb went off, etc.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Mar 28, 2018 6:54:41 GMT
Nice FO3 nod in the intro. Pretty cool beginning overall.
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Post by jaison1986 on Mar 28, 2018 11:56:40 GMT
Nah, this ending was nothing more then a throwback to the secret ending of Far cry 4. The devs likely only included it because the first time they did it the ending went viral on the internet. It feels lazy, you don't even have an idea of what may have happened after the scene ends. What happens in the actual endings is way more interesting. I'm seeing a lot of people getting angry at them. Personally, I'm more intrigued then bothered. Oh, FC4 implemented it first. Interesting. What is it about the ending that's rousing ire? The 'good' ending is protag rescues the party, walks away and then dies at the end. Bad ending, everyone dies except for the madman and protag, a nuclear bomb went off, etc. People are angry because you pretty much lose no matter what you do. Either you fight the cult leader and all hell breaks loose, ending with you and him being trapped in a bunker. Or you just walk off and let him get away. There is no way to win. Even if you walk free, the final scene implies your protagonist got brainwashed, goes crazy and attacks everyone in the car.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Mar 28, 2018 12:21:37 GMT
Oh, FC4 implemented it first. Interesting. What is it about the ending that's rousing ire? The 'good' ending is protag rescues the party, walks away and then dies at the end. Bad ending, everyone dies except for the madman and protag, a nuclear bomb went off, etc. People are angry because you pretty much lose no matter what you do. Either you fight the cult leader and all hell breaks loose, ending with you and him being trapped in a bunker. Or you just walk off and let him get away. There is no way to win. Even if you walk free, the final scene implies your protagonist got brainwashed, goes crazy and attacks everyone in the car. *nods* I can see why. I watched the beginnings of the game. It listed four things the players can do to build up support to resist the cult, help other people take back control and rescue the party. The implication is the player's actions matter and it turns out to be a lie. So all the hours of grinding, rescuing people, taking back outposts, doing all the SQs and in the end, players don't walk away with a feeling of accomplishment. Their invested hours of trying to make that something they wanted happen or hope to happen are just wasted hours.
I just closed off after 30 - 45 minutes of watching the gameplay. I can see it's going to be a lot of rinse and repeat all over the maps for hours. Not my cup of tea.
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Post by jaison1986 on Mar 28, 2018 12:28:10 GMT
People are angry because you pretty much lose no matter what you do. Either you fight the cult leader and all hell breaks loose, ending with you and him being trapped in a bunker. Or you just walk off and let him get away. There is no way to win. Even if you walk free, the final scene implies your protagonist got brainwashed, goes crazy and attacks everyone in the car. *nods* I can see why. I watched the beginnings of the game. It listed four things the players can do to build up support to resist the cult, help other people take back control and rescue the party. The implication is the player's actions matter and it turns out to be a lie. So all the hours of grinding, rescuing people, taking back outposts, doing all the SQs and in the end, players don't walk away with a feeling of accomplishment. Their invested hours of trying to make that something they wanted happen or hope to happen are just wasted hours.
I just closed off after 30 - 45 minutes of watching the gameplay. I can see it's going to be a lot of rinse and repeat all over the maps for hours. Not my cup of tea. Yeahh... I already did plenty of grinding in Far cry 3 and 4. Not really looking foward to do it again. The Far cry series is kind of like Dragon age inquisition in that regard. Fun main quests, but utterly dreadfull and repetitive side missions.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Mar 28, 2018 12:45:47 GMT
*nods* I can see why. I watched the beginnings of the game. It listed four things the players can do to build up support to resist the cult, help other people take back control and rescue the party. The implication is the player's actions matter and it turns out to be a lie. So all the hours of grinding, rescuing people, taking back outposts, doing all the SQs and in the end, players don't walk away with a feeling of accomplishment. Their invested hours of trying to make that something they wanted happen or hope to happen are just wasted hours.
I just closed off after 30 - 45 minutes of watching the gameplay. I can see it's going to be a lot of rinse and repeat all over the maps for hours. Not my cup of tea. Yeahh... I already did plenty of grinding in Far cry 3 and 4. Not really looking foward to do it again. The Far cry series is kind of like Dragon age inquisition in that regard. Fun main quests, but utterly dreadfull and repetitive side missions. That's true. The DAI SQs were mediocre and meaningless. Fortunately, there's a lot more meat to DAI than SQs.
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