[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 15, 2016 21:51:53 GMT opuspace and Talaith like this

Post by abedsbrother on Sept 15, 2016 21:51:53 GMT

As to why the Quarians might not be included on the Ark, Quarians are treated like crap by the Council and council races (demonstrated, among other things, by the stolen credit chit mission on the Citadel in ME2). And at the start of ME3, the Quarians are recalling people on pilgrimage back to the Flotilla. Intel about the Quarian's intentions was spotty, indicating there wasn't much communication between the Quarians and other factions. So if the Alliance + Allies were working on a top-secret project not related to the Reapers, maybe some racist Serracino-types didn't want to "pollute" the races that were sent to Andromeda with "suit-rats," or just didn't want to bother including / trusting said "suit-rats" with details of a mission (the Arks) crucial to the survival of the "important" species.

How we might meet the Quarians in Andromeda: if BioWare (i.e. Walters et al) are interested in tying in existing lore, the Quarians launched a deep-space exploration mission at the end of Mass Effect: Ascension. It'd be cool to run into them in Andromeda.

Personally, I think the Quarians are too popular NOT to be in Andromeda.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 15, 2016 22:31:50 GMT SalMasRac, Abramsrunner, and 2 more like this

Post by themikefest on Sept 15, 2016 22:31:50 GMT

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 16, 2016 11:02:20 GMT

Post by Sartoz on Sept 16, 2016 11:02:20 GMT

Sept 15, 2016 18:48:05 GMT SalMasRac said:

Sept 15, 2016 14:15:21 GMT Sartoz said:

<<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>>

Fair enough.
But, I can only see them as NPCs.

Anyone who isn't Ryder is an NPC.

<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>

Squad mates are not NPCs. LIs are not NPCs. Everyone else is an NPC to varying degrees = "air time" = dialogue + importance in the game.
That's my view, anyway.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 16, 2016 11:28:10 GMT SalMasRac likes this

Post by nanotm on Sept 16, 2016 11:28:10 GMT

Sept 16, 2016 11:02:20 GMT Sartoz said:

Sept 15, 2016 18:48:05 GMT SalMasRac said:

Anyone who isn't Ryder is an NPC.

<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>

Squad mates are not NPCs. LIs are not NPCs. Everyone else is an NPC to varying degrees = "air time" = dialogue + importance in the game.
That's my view, anyway.

every character is either an PC (played character) or an NPC (non played character) in DA this was slightly blurred since you could play as any of your team but in ME (so far anyway) you couldn't directly play as any of the others although you could direct certain actions through the hud in battles, which makes them ANPC's (augmented non played characters) at best but still a variant of NPC, regardless of importance to the storyline.

for myself I don't care which route they take so long as the AI (bot code) for the team mates is up to scratch and they utilise their attacks without needing top be told to use them by me, also since you can revive your team I hope they can actually revive each other as well/

don't suppose this aspect will be brought in though /

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 16, 2016 11:54:31 GMT Robo likes this

Post by SalMasRac on Sept 16, 2016 11:54:31 GMT

Sept 16, 2016 11:02:20 GMT Sartoz said:

Sept 15, 2016 18:48:05 GMT SalMasRac said:

Anyone who isn't Ryder is an NPC.

<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>

Squad mates are not NPCs. LIs are not NPCs. Everyone else is an NPC to varying degrees = "air time" = dialogue + importance in the game.
That's my view, anyway.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 16, 2016 15:58:57 GMT

Post by Thrombin on Sept 16, 2016 15:58:57 GMT

Sept 16, 2016 11:28:10 GMT nanotm said:

Sept 16, 2016 11:02:20 GMT Sartoz said:

<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>

Squad mates are not NPCs. LIs are not NPCs. Everyone else is an NPC to varying degrees = "air time" = dialogue + importance in the game.
That's my view, anyway.

every character is either an PC (played character) or an NPC (non played character) in DA this was slightly blurred since you could play as any of your team but in ME (so far anyway) you couldn't directly play as any of the others although you could direct certain actions through the hud in battles, which makes them ANPC's (augmented non played characters) at best but still a variant of NPC, regardless of importance to the storyline.

for myself I don't care which route they take so long as the AI (bot code) for the team mates is up to scratch and they utilise their attacks without needing top be told to use them by me, also since you can revive your team I hope they can actually revive each other as well/

don't suppose this aspect will be brought in though /

PC is Player Character, not Played Character but, close enough!

It's terminology from the original Role Playing Game, Dungeons & Dragons. NPC's are Non-Player Characters, controlled by the Dungeon Master (or, in ME's case, the computer) as opposed to PC's who are controlled by the players (or in ME's case you).

So, yes, technically, everyone except Ryder is an NPC.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 16, 2016 16:13:35 GMT

Post by nanotm on Sept 16, 2016 16:13:35 GMT

Sept 16, 2016 15:58:57 GMT Thrombin said:

Sept 16, 2016 11:28:10 GMT nanotm said:

every character is either an PC (played character) or an NPC (non played character) in DA this was slightly blurred since you could play as any of your team but in ME (so far anyway) you couldn't directly play as any of the others although you could direct certain actions through the hud in battles, which makes them ANPC's (augmented non played characters) at best but still a variant of NPC, regardless of importance to the storyline.

for myself I don't care which route they take so long as the AI (bot code) for the team mates is up to scratch and they utilise their attacks without needing top be told to use them by me, also since you can revive your team I hope they can actually revive each other as well/

don't suppose this aspect will be brought in though /

PC is Player Character, not Played Character but, close enough!

It's terminology from the original Role Playing Game, Dungeons & Dragons. NPC's are Non-Player Characters, controlled by the Dungeon Master (or, in ME's case, the computer) as opposed to PC's who are controlled by the players (or in ME's case you).

So, yes, technically, everyone except Ryder is an NPC.

I was having a brain fart when I wrote it and couldn't remember how to spell played and the spell checker wasn't helping (was offering me plaid , but I know I wasn't meaning a type of woven cloth)...

anyhow,
does changing the tense of the verb make any difference to the final meaning ?

isn't it the same thing? I mean you are one and then you are the other without actually changing anything other than engaging with the product and then disengaging with it you are still you and the pixel construct is still the pixel construct ....

just because your paranoid doesn't mean there not out to get you!

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 16, 2016 16:26:32 GMT

Post by Thrombin on Sept 16, 2016 16:26:32 GMT

Sept 16, 2016 16:13:35 GMT nanotm said:

I was having a brain fart when I wrote it and couldn't remember how to spell played and the spell checker wasn't helping (was offering me plaid , but I know I wasn't meaning a type of woven cloth)...

anyhow,
does changing the tense of the verb make any difference to the final meaning ?

isn't it the same thing? I mean you are one and then you are the other without actually changing anything other than engaging with the product and then disengaging with it you are still you and the pixel construct is still the pixel construct ....

No it doesn't make any difference (hence why I said "close enough"). It's just that I'm often very pedantic and like things to be as accurate as possible

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 16, 2016 22:40:34 GMT SaikyoMcRyu, opuspace, and 1 more like this

Post by RIPs1991 on Sept 16, 2016 22:40:34 GMT

I'd like to think we'll see them; first because of sentimental reasons, fingers crossed that Bioware would still involve mostly all of their known races but also the Quarians are suited to the Ark mission, they'd adapt well to this form of mission....only reason, in game, I think they may not be included would be their immune system and adaptability to different conditions but, again, the Quarians have proven to be a resilient bunch.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 18, 2016 17:09:18 GMT opuspace likes this

Post by Dar'Nara on Sept 18, 2016 17:09:18 GMT

Would really like to see Quarians in the game in some way but wont be *Too* dissapointed if they arent there. I think their skills of having lived in space in the way that they do may turn into a very useful asset. If they are in the game i'd hope we dont get another Tali, better yet i would hope for a male quarian this time around. Tali was good and all and how her story progressed was nice, going from a quarian on her pilgrimage and progressing upwards but i'd say BioWare could do something different this time. Wouldnt be too bothered if the Geth were part of the quarian environment suits either, a sub-plot could maybe come from that perhaps, who knows!

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 18, 2016 17:37:04 GMT opuspace likes this

Post by melbella on Sept 18, 2016 17:37:04 GMT

Sept 15, 2016 15:45:27 GMT Gileadan said:

Despite likely being one of the most useful species to bring along given their engineering skills, I have a feeling that they won't be around since they can get wiped out in ME3. Maybe a few lucky ones survived though and can join the journey to Andromeda.

Personally, I'd rather bring Quarians before even Turians and Asari, let alone completely dead weight like Drell, Volus or Elcor - seriously, what can any of those contribute that humans can't?

Pretty much the bolded part. I don't think any race that can be all but wiped out in ME3 will be in Andromeda. So, that leaves out quarians, geth, rachni, drell, hanar, and batarians.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 18, 2016 17:56:20 GMT

Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 18, 2016 17:56:20 GMT

Sept 18, 2016 17:37:04 GMT melbella said:

Sept 15, 2016 15:45:27 GMT Gileadan said:

Despite likely being one of the most useful species to bring along given their engineering skills, I have a feeling that they won't be around since they can get wiped out in ME3. Maybe a few lucky ones survived though and can join the journey to Andromeda.

Personally, I'd rather bring Quarians before even Turians and Asari, let alone completely dead weight like Drell, Volus or Elcor - seriously, what can any of those contribute that humans can't?

Pretty much the bolded part. I don't think any race that can be all but wiped out in ME3 will be in Andromeda. So, that leaves out quarians, geth, rachni, drell, hanar, and batarians.

Regardless of what occurs on Rannoch, it is canon that there are Quarian and Geth survivors. Same with the other races other than Rachni, but even they can be explained in.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 18, 2016 18:01:18 GMT

Post by melbella on Sept 18, 2016 18:01:18 GMT

Hence why I said "all but wiped out."

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 18, 2016 23:32:06 GMT

Post by Sunegami on Sept 18, 2016 23:32:06 GMT

I want turians and quarians, if we got nothing else I'd be happy with that.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 24, 2016 21:31:10 GMT

Post by sl4ter on Sept 24, 2016 21:31:10 GMT

I think they are going to be in the game but not as present as in the trilogy, since they always wanted to find a new homeworld for themselves. They will be doing their own thing, possibly. Looking for a planet their species can live on.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 25, 2016 7:41:03 GMT

Post by DarthCompetent on Sept 25, 2016 7:41:03 GMT

As much as I love me some quarians, I just don't see it happening. Story wise it won't make sense if we leave before the ending of ME3 (and all info pints to that being the case), because the quarians were still at odds with every race in the galaxy.
That being said, I'd absolutely love if BioWare pulls a rabbit out their hats and finds a sensible way to write them in, but as of now I'm not gonna hold my breath over it.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 25, 2016 12:44:03 GMT opuspace and Natashina like this

Post by Tosh on Sept 25, 2016 12:44:03 GMT

I think that because the Quarians have so much experience with migrating an entire species, they could be a very valuable ally and help with consulting during the build of the Ark and during the voyage.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Sept 30, 2016 10:29:24 GMT

Post by Zemgus on Sept 30, 2016 10:29:24 GMT

I answered maybe. Like others have said they could be wiped out or if the Ark leaves before the end of ME3 they could be at odds with other species and so are not qualified. There are some good reasons not to bring them, but at the same time I always liked the quarians so I don't know. We'll have to wait and see, no? There's no point in bringing them 'just because.' There should be a good reason for it, a new story they wish to tell about the quarians. In the original trilogy it was all about their struggle with the Geth. Now that it's over I'm curious to see what happens next.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Oct 1, 2016 19:49:27 GMT deadgoon likes this

Post by Arcian on Oct 1, 2016 19:49:27 GMT

Sept 25, 2016 12:44:03 GMT Tosh said:

I think that because the Quarians have so much experience with migrating an entire species, they could be a very valuable ally and help with consulting during the build of the Ark and during the voyage.

Not really. They've been migrating for less time than the entire journey to Andromeda will take, wasn't in statsis for the whole time and their migration has been taking place inside a galaxy with plenty of stars with planets to discharge on and plunder for resources. They don't have any inkling of how to travel to another galaxy because such a journey is nothing like the one they've made.

I get what you're trying to say, but intragalactic and intergalactic travel really are apples and oranges. The quarians only have intragalactic experience, so they will not be of much help to the Ark builders.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Oct 1, 2016 20:52:57 GMT

Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 20:52:57 GMT

From the standpoint of ship design ... it needs not just to be a sleeper ship ... but eventually a "Live Ship" to support ever larger numbers of the awakened population. Once you get to Andromeda, you go into search mode for resources and habitable planets ... at that point, you are in an intergalactic experience, where the Quarians would be help.

As far as time the Quarians have been exploring versus time the Ark ships spend with their "cargo" in stasis ... it's largely irrelevant ... stasis time is dead time, no learning is taking place (except maybe the AI that is running everything), as opposed to the time the Quarians spent searching for a new home ... they apparently have gotten pretty good at making do, using every resource, wasting nothing ... which is the paradigm the new "migrant" fleet must use ...

Unless they stumble upon a resource rich series of planets and at least one habitable planet, right from the go. Which is certainly a possibility from the game standpoint (breaking the fourth wall), but perhaps not a wise planning factor for those planning the expedition.

Maybe Quarians don't make the trip ... they help with ship design, provide significant inputs to the codex used to help the migrants once they arrive in the Andromeda galaxy, help to program the AI with the information on galactic exploration, resource identification, habitable planet scanning ... so technical expertise, without making the trip. Who knows, maybe a Quarian VI like Vigil ... to provide advice to the explorers in their new galaxy. But of all the species, Quarians probably have some fairly unique insight to surviving on ships for extended periods, while looking for resources and a new home.

Having Quarians help with ship construction could be part of lore ... the lack of Quarians in game would reduce the numbers of species that BioWare carries over from the original trilogy ... useful as lore, irrelevant in actual game play ... becoming something talked about in MEA ... like Hanar, Drell, Batarians, Elcor, Vorcha and Geth ... but not actually seen.

I'd like to see Quarians in ME:A, but if not, that's OK ... just making space for new species indigenous to Andromeda, within resource constraints of BioWare's story tellling.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Oct 2, 2016 7:29:43 GMT DragonEffect likes this

Post by Tosh on Oct 2, 2016 7:29:43 GMT

I would also think that the Quarians might help with psychological aspect and all sorts of issues that might occure due to the long travel (after they are awake) and the longing to their home planet.
Yeah, I know that we're talking about two different species that each have their own psychology, but then again, from what I've seen so far during the original trilogy we all share the same concerns, hopes, dreams and fears. Give or take...

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Oct 2, 2016 7:31:45 GMT

Post by Robo on Oct 2, 2016 7:31:45 GMT

Nah. Quarians r dum

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Oct 2, 2016 8:02:22 GMT deadgoon, zlojeb, and 1 more like this

Post by Spectr61 on Oct 2, 2016 8:02:22 GMT

Yup.

Dumb as rocks.

"Let's start a war with the Geth when the Reaper's are invading the entire galaxy." Great idea.

Not to mention the earlier "let's kill these new beings we created because now we're scared of them".

Out the airlock with the lot. (Especially since one of the very few good ones, Kal Reegar, is gone)

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Oct 2, 2016 10:04:06 GMT

Post by Tosh on Oct 2, 2016 10:04:06 GMT

The reason the Quarians chose to try and take over their homeworld while the rest of the galaxy is at war against the reapers is mainly because they were always afraid that the rest of the galaxy under normal circumstances would activly try and stop them in order not to provoke the Geth against the rest of the galaxy.

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[POLL] Quarians in Andromeda Oct 2, 2016 10:06:13 GMT legbamel and akots like this

Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 2, 2016 10:06:13 GMT

Oct 2, 2016 10:04:06 GMT Tosh said:

The reason the Quarians chose to try and take over their homeworld while the rest of the galaxy is at war against the reapers is mainly because they were always afraid that the rest of the galaxy under normal circumstances would activly try and stop them in order not to provoke the Geth against the rest of the galaxy.

No, the reason they chose to try and take over their homeworld while the rest of the galaxy is at war against the Reapers is because they wanted a place for all their civilians to stay while the flotilla went to aid in the war effort. They flat out tell us this.

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