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Post by marshalmoriarty on Jun 5, 2017 23:26:32 GMT
You only get 1 chance to make a first impression. As the 1st installment of ME from a new team with a new lead character and story, they had no business releasing this game in the state it was in. Because whilst it could be patched, the first impression is the one that counts. EA aren't strapped for cash and they didn't need to rush this out.
But they did.
They also didn't have to crumble in the face of adversity either,implicitly agreeing with the many unfair criticisms and total write offs the game got. Or take every opportunity in interviews post release to heap blame on the team for their inexperience etc.
But they did.
EA get a lot of flak and I've defended tbem in the past, because it was Bioware's foolish choice to sell their independence in the first place. But since ME3 things have spiraled. Its clear that EA have washed their hands of the fans since they were publicly humiliated over the ME3 endings. They are slashing and burning DA snd ME these days, and if they can't get instant good press and sales they don't want to know. They are treating the games, the fans and their own staff with contempt.
Even now though, I'm open to a truce. All I care about is seeing the games well funded, supported and given the time to get it right. And the more militant fans needs to knock stunts that target EA and individual Bioware employees off. The kind of atmosphere that has emerged between all parties needs to be repaired. The fans need to calm down, EA needs to view the situation as more than how to wring money out of ungrateful brats, and Bioware need to reach out to the fans again.
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Post by congokong on Jun 6, 2017 0:20:17 GMT
I certainly got my money's worth off of ME:A. It had enough lasting appeal for me to play it several times. Playing after patches gives new experiences too. New (less tired) faces, different colored shirts, characters becoming visible again; all very exciting... It's ironic how I could get more out of ME:A than other recent games I feel are much better like Horizon Zero Dawn. HZD was more of a "hit it and quit it" type of game though. One playthrough was enough. ME:A brought me back. Now, while I'm glad to have experienced ME:A, it is nowhere near what it could have been. It's only a "good" game; probably a 65/100 for me. When you look at the lore and story of ME1, it is disappointing how little they seized on the opportunity of a near-blank slate to work with for the trilogy's successor. This and the lack of role-playing, the facial animations, the fetch quests, the boring Nomad, the bugs... Oh my, the bugs... Coming off of one of the best game series of all-time; renowned for its degrees of choice, this was just sad. Too often, you were railroaded into certain behavioral patterns, including being forced to like certain characters. Need I say more?
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Post by starman on Jun 6, 2017 0:24:21 GMT
You only get 1 chance to make a first impression. As the 1st installment of ME from a new team with a new lead character and story, they had no business releasing this game in the state it was in. Because whilst it could be patched, the first impression is the one that counts. EA aren't strapped for cash and they didn't need to rush this out. But they did. They also didn't have to crumble in the face of adversity either,implicitly agreeing with the many unfair criticisms and total write offs the game got. Or take every opportunity in interviews post release to heap blame on the team for theiri experience etc. But they did. EA get a lot of flak and I've defended tbem in the past, because it was Bioware's foolish choice to sell their independence in the first place. But since ME3 things have spiraled. Its clear that EA have washed their hands of the fans since they were publicly humiliated over the ME3 endings. They are slashing and burning DA snd ME these days, and if they can't get instant good press and sales they don't want to know. They are treating the games, the fans and their own staff with contempt. Even now though, I'm open to a truce. All I care about is seeing the games well funded, supported and given the time to get it right. And the more militant fans needs to knock stunts that target EA and individual Bioware employees out. The kind of atmosphere that has emerged between all parties needs to be repaired. The fans need to calm down, EA needs to view tge situation as more than how to wring money out of ungrateful brats, and Bioware need to reach out to the fans again. Well said!
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Post by dazk on Jun 6, 2017 0:32:51 GMT
Despite all the negative feedback many folk have given you guys over this installment of Mass Effect, i for one take my hat off to you! Im not a young fella, rather a 57yr old space junkie that really enjoyed the first 3 Mass Effect and waited with baited breath for this latest version to break free from your design computers and be leashed upon us all.... You have managed to capture the heart beating moments, the " can i make it" moments and created a world that once immersed in it makes you forget of all the cr*p that is going on in this world.. Thank you and keep up the great work you all do! From another "old space junkie" well said!!!!!
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Post by alihou on Jun 6, 2017 3:06:27 GMT
I wish I enjoyed this game, I actually envy people who did. I have a lot of passion and really support Bioware, but I'm also very critical and call them out when they do stupid crap. This game was beyond disappointing and uninspired despite it having some good moments and gameplay. I'm happy for people who like it, but this game isn't a 10/10 game no matter how much you like it.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Jun 6, 2017 3:55:05 GMT
Theres something off here....shouldn't you be all....rarrr immersion ruined or something, op?
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 6, 2017 4:00:32 GMT
Theres something off here....shouldn't you be all....rarrr immersion ruined or something, op? NO! Be gone from my sight. You aren't worth killing.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Jun 6, 2017 4:11:29 GMT
Theres something off here....shouldn't you be all....rarrr immersion ruined or something, op? NO! Be gone from my sight. You aren't worth killing. STOP POSTING THAT GIF FT CROGARNS. POST REAL KROGAN. RAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH. *Headbutts the fridge*
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 6, 2017 4:13:44 GMT
NO! Be gone from my sight. You aren't worth killing. STOP POSTING THAT GIF FT CROGARNS. POST REAL KROGAN. RAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH. *Headbutts the fridge* Here you go, buddy. GrampaDrack giving someone a noogie.
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Post by Shinobu on Jun 6, 2017 4:36:15 GMT
While I was playing MEA I was struck by all the small things that really brought home to me that Bioware did listen to fans about many things. People complained "how can ME3 not have X? We want X for the next game!" but no one later acknowledged that they did put in X. So thank you, Bioware for listening to us about the following: Walk/run toggle Holstering weapons Improving the Mako rather than just getting rid of it forever Getting rid of the gawdawful FemHawke/Shepard "sexy run" Mo mo-cap mo bettah Revamped planetary/system exploration Disappearing reticle during non-cinematic conversations No more creeper sidequests Sidequests that required conversation, a decision being made and that were rewarded with lore (a la Samesh Bhatia in ME1) Increased banter Increased romance/friendship interactions that we were not locked out of The option to skip crafting, mining/resource collection or trading completely Fewer mining nodes per map than DAI Nonmilitary protagonist Simultaneously existing male and female protagonists of different sizes Fewer daddy issues in the squad LIs for Sara that didn't 1) constantly tell her about their lost love or 2) dump her Persistent romance lines that could be triggered at any time (this was huge for me as I hate feeling like I have to choose the heart icon the first time it shows up or lose my chance) Bisexual Vetra (Maker bless Sheryl Chee!), No boobs for FemTurians More romance options More dialog options No cameltoe, robot or otherwise Faster turnaround on wartable/Apex missions More outfits Hair physics/more hair colors/more hairstyles Scars and tattoos Shorter MP matches Independent MP/SP Return of combat barks rather than trying to put banter in MP ("Did anyone try the ham in camp?" was one of the things that made me flee DAMP.) Keeping MP co-op instead of introducing PvP Destructable cover Increased verticality of maps to keep combat fresh No gun restrictions Independent power cooldowns Tech powers no longer overwriting biotic primers Faster aggro dumping with cloak Hand switching in combat (Left hand advantage!)
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Post by kalasaurus on Jun 6, 2017 5:12:18 GMT
You're welcome. Edit: Kidding, of course
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Post by alanc9 on Jun 6, 2017 5:15:28 GMT
EA get a lot of flak and I've defended tbem in the past, because it was Bioware's foolish choice to sell their independence in the first place. But since ME3 things have spiraled. Its clear that EA have washed their hands of the fans since they were publicly humiliated over the ME3 endings. They are slashing and burning DA snd ME these days, and if they can't get instant good press and sales they don't want to know. They are treating the games, the fans and their own staff with contempt. Did Bio actually have an option about selling themselves? My understanding is that their finances were pretty dire. I'm also not clear what we can expect from EA. They're not going to write Bio blank checks, after all. ME:A had plenty of time and money if the project had been run competently.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jun 6, 2017 7:49:52 GMT
I kinda envy you because you enjoy it. I couldn't. you were propably put off by the constant bitching and the double standards people have. So far i am more than amazed. Andromeda on some aspects just tramps witcher 3. especially gameplay variety and combat.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jun 6, 2017 7:52:16 GMT
While I was playing MEA I was struck by all the small things that really brought home to me that Bioware did listen to fans about many things. People complained "how can ME3 not have X? We want X for the next game!" but no one later acknowledged that they did put in X. So thank you, Bioware for listening to us about the following: Walk/run toggle Holstering weapons Improving the Mako rather than just getting rid of it forever Getting rid of the gawdawful FemHawke/Shepard "sexy run" Mo mo-cap mo bettah Revamped planetary/system exploration Disappearing reticle during non-cinematic conversations No more creeper sidequests Sidequests that required conversation, a decision being made and that were rewarded with lore (a la Samesh Bhatia in ME1) Increased banter Increased romance/friendship interactions that we were not locked out of The option to skip crafting, mining/resource collection or trading completely Fewer mining nodes per map than DAI Nonmilitary protagonist Simultaneously existing male and female protagonists of different sizes Fewer daddy issues in the squad LIs for Sara that didn't 1) constantly tell her about their lost love or 2) dump her Persistent romance lines that could be triggered at any time (this was huge for me as I hate feeling like I have to choose the heart icon the first time it shows up or lose my chance) Bisexual Vetra (Maker bless Sheryl Chee!), No boobs for FemTurians More romance options More dialog options No cameltoe, robot or otherwise Faster turnaround on wartable/Apex missions More outfits Hair physics/more hair colors/more hairstyles Scars and tattoos Shorter MP matches Independent MP/SP Return of combat barks rather than trying to put banter in MP ("Did anyone try the ham in camp?" was one of the things that made me flee DAMP.) Keeping MP co-op instead of introducing PvP Destructable cover Increased verticality of maps to keep combat fresh No gun restrictions Independent power cooldowns Tech powers no longer overwriting biotic primers Faster aggro dumping with cloak Hand switching in combat (Left hand advantage!) this. yet people are stuck in the tired face.
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Post by Ancient on Jun 6, 2017 8:13:29 GMT
I kinda envy you because you enjoy it. I couldn't. you were propably put off by the constant bitching and the double standards people have. So far i am more than amazed. Andromeda on some aspects just tramps witcher 3. especially gameplay variety and combat. I play games for 30 years, and i have played everything that is good. And i want quality over quantity. You like the game, and that's ok. But don't hype it, and criticize if something is not good.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jun 6, 2017 8:43:06 GMT
you were propably put off by the constant bitching and the double standards people have. So far i am more than amazed. Andromeda on some aspects just tramps witcher 3. especially gameplay variety and combat. I play games for 30 years, and i have played everything that is good. And i want quality over quantity. You like the game, and that's ok. But don't hype it, and criticize if something is not good. me too. i have some minor issues with Andromeda but in games i always focus on what i like. the atmosphere despite the lack of distinguishable ost is great. the exporation feels nice. As for fetch quests under tasks, andromeda has zero towers to climb (ubisoft stylle), zero question marks in maps (wicther was full of it). In the end is how you play the game: I dont go ICON hunting in map. I roleplay in my missions in games 100% of the time ,tasks in andromeda and "?" in witcher get a roleplaying treatment. "what would my character do? situation" Icon hunting is the plague in games as people play games almost mechanicaly, we were taught that way from games like Ubisoft titles, mmos. Bioware;s last 2 games which are open world beg to differ. In inquisition IF you read stuff and follow your "character: lots of fetch quests are not fetch quests. it was mneat this way.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 6, 2017 11:17:15 GMT
Thank you for the Fiend. What an awesome character. Grabbing the Rookie, taking a bite out of the Rookie and then smashing the Rookie into the ground like a piece of crap. excellent Thank you for Bain Massani calling the Rookie little duck. Would be funny if someone on the tempest left a toy duck in Ryder's cabin as a joke and Ryder spends the rest of the game trying to figure out who put it there. Thank you for killing the Rookie on Aya What I did was stop following the governor. I walked away when a few moments later they killed Ryder. I couldn't stop laughing. Well done Bioware.
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Post by kalasaurus on Jun 6, 2017 11:54:21 GMT
Thank you for the Fiend. What an awesome character. Grabbing the Rookie, taking a bite out of the Rookie and then smashing the Rookie into the ground like a piece of crap. excellent Thank you for Bain Massani calling the Rookie little duck. Would be funny if someone on the tempest left a toy duck in Ryder's cabin as a joke and Ryder spends the rest of the game trying to figure out who put there. Thank you for killing the Rookie on Aya What I did was stop following the governor. I walked away when a few moments later they killed Ryder. I couldn't stop laughing. Well done Bioware.\ Thank you for making the Fiend eat the Rookie while she was talking to someone on Kadara.
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Post by henkiedepost on Jun 6, 2017 13:15:18 GMT
Well, its his right to post this but I don't think this kind of thing is helpful. I agree the game has much to recommend it and threads that solely focus on the negstives are misrepresenting the game. But so do threads like this. The game clearly has problems, many resulting from being rushed out in an unfinished state. Trying to manufacture it into some kind of masterpiece ignores the myriad and very real flaws of the game. Which EA would be delighted for you to do. The internet already has far too much 'This is the greatest thing ever/This is the worst thing ever' oversimplications and tribal arguments about fanboys and haters. This game needs what all modern culture needs - real debate and analysis. Tell it like it is, not how you want to be. Because wbat's the point otherwise? This game was better than most said it was, but its a *long* way short of how good it could and should have been. This is what I've been trying to say for a while now. In the meantime we still have to deal with 'I love this game' or 'I hate this game' threads everyday, both sides completely ignoring or disregarding the other. Andromeda's critic score of 72 on PC shows that it isn't a bad game but it isn't a masterpiece either. People don't have to agree with that exact score personally, but so far, every hour I put in the game seems to understripe this general conclusion. For me, a lot of well done mechanics like combat are countered by buggy performance, sometimes shoddy writing and worlds which sometimes can be described as bland, tedious and repetitive. For others, the lists of things which can be described as 'good' or 'bad' will probably be different. That doesn't matter, what does, is that, even though you love or hate the game, there simply are things which are objectively awesome or sub-par in comparison to the OT or other games which have recently released. How much of a fanboy or troll you are shouldn't matter in these cases. Only the arguments you bring to the table to change or improve on these divisive mechanics should. As an example I would like to give the Asari-clone debacle. Defending Bioware's decision to get through with this is pointless and a waste of time. Even when you don't care that much about the clones or generally love the game it's be obvious that they made a mistake here. In this particular instance it would be better if we could just skip the 'you're a troll because you're complaining about this' and the 'you're a fanboy because you defend Bioware till your last breath' insults and just focus on what can be done to improve on this in the future. So all in all I believe we should be past the 'hate or love the game' stage now. That's something for first impressions and the weeks following a release. What we could really use now is fruitful discussions about the future. Apart from this I also would like to point out that it's still OP's right to post his opinion. I just believe that we should try to move past the 'cirklejerk about how good or bad the game is' and have some actual discussions about the game again.
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Post by bizantura on Jun 6, 2017 13:18:14 GMT
You only get 1 chance to make a first impression. As the 1st installment of ME from a new team with a new lead character and story, they had no business releasing this game in the state it was in. Because whilst it could be patched, the first impression is the one that counts. EA aren't strapped for cash and they didn't need to rush this out. But they did. They also didn't have to crumble in the face of adversity either,implicitly agreeing with the many unfair criticisms and total write offs the game got. Or take every opportunity in interviews post release to heap blame on the team for theiri experience etc. But they did. EA get a lot of flak and I've defended tbem in the past, because it was Bioware's foolish choice to sell their independence in the first place. But since ME3 things have spiraled. Its clear that EA have washed their hands of the fans since they were publicly humiliated over the ME3 endings. They are slashing and burning DA snd ME these days, and if they can't get instant good press and sales they don't want to know. They are treating the games, the fans and their own staff with contempt. Even now though, I'm open to a truce. All I care about is seeing the games well funded, supported and given the time to get it right. And the more militant fans needs to knock stunts that target EA and individual Bioware employees out. The kind of atmosphere that has emerged between all parties needs to be repaired. The fans need to calm down, EA needs to view tge situation as more than how to wring money out of ungrateful brats, and Bioware need to reach out to the fans again. Get your factts straight! Bioware did not sell out to EA. The compagny that owned Bioware sold Bioware to EA. BioWare and Pandemic merged in 2005 under the name VG Holding Corp but retained their individual publishing names. They had funding from a private equity firm called Elevation Partners from whome EA later bought VG Holding Corp in 2007. How many times is this gospel sold as thruth!!!
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 6, 2017 14:16:46 GMT
Thank you for the Fiend. What an awesome character. Grabbing the Rookie, taking a bite out of the Rookie and then smashing the Rookie into the ground like a piece of crap. excellent Thank you for Bain Massani calling the Rookie little duck. Would be funny if someone on the tempest left a toy duck in Ryder's cabin as a joke and Ryder spends the rest of the game trying to figure out who put it there. Thank you for killing the Rookie on Aya What I did was stop following the governor. I walked away when a few moments later they killed Ryder. I couldn't stop laughing. Well done Bioware. Wow I suspected something like that might happen if I deviated, but it's cool that they didn't just make it a fail pop up or something.
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Post by kalasaurus on Jun 6, 2017 15:05:02 GMT
Thank you for the Fiend. What an awesome character. Grabbing the Rookie, taking a bite out of the Rookie and then smashing the Rookie into the ground like a piece of crap. excellent Thank you for Bain Massani calling the Rookie little duck. Would be funny if someone on the tempest left a toy duck in Ryder's cabin as a joke and Ryder spends the rest of the game trying to figure out who put it there. Thank you for killing the Rookie on Aya What I did was stop following the governor. I walked away when a few moments later they killed Ryder. I couldn't stop laughing. Well done Bioware. Wow I suspected something like that might happen if I deviated, but it's cool that they didn't just make it a fail pop up or something. Mhmm. I tried it once out of curiosity and also laughed pretty hard when it happened. The angaran security/Resistance (?) get mad if you start scanning stuff too, though unfortunately you're locked out of doing it again after they yell at you the first time. I was hoping for a "death from scanning" scenario, but no such luck.
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Post by mfr001 on Jun 6, 2017 15:20:56 GMT
Despite all the negative feedback many folk have given you guys over this installment of Mass Effect, i for one take my hat off to you! Im not a young fella, rather a 57yr old space junkie that really enjoyed the first 3 Mass Effect and waited with baited breath for this latest version to break free from your design computers and be leashed upon us all.... You have managed to capture the heart beating moments, the " can i make it" moments and created a world that once immersed in it makes you forget of all the cr*p that is going on in this world.. Thank you and keep up the great work you all do! From another "old space junkie" well said!!!!! Me too. (It's been ages since I last wrote that!) A long time ago I played original Elite with wire frame graphics and a rotating space station that was so easy to crash into as you tried to dock. But real men (or do I mean idiots?) don't use docking computers. the rest, as they say is geography.
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Gottle o' geer, gottle o' geer!
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Post by mfr001 on Jun 6, 2017 15:24:14 GMT
Thank you for the Fiend. What an awesome character. Grabbing the Rookie, taking a bite out of the Rookie and then smashing the Rookie into the ground like a piece of crap. excellent Thank you for Bain Massani calling the Rookie little duck. Would be funny if someone on the tempest left a toy duck in Ryder's cabin as a joke and Ryder spends the rest of the game trying to figure out who put there. Thank you for killing the Rookie on Aya What I did was stop following the governor. I walked away when a few moments later they killed Ryder. I couldn't stop laughing. Well done Bioware.\ Thank you for making the Fiend eat the Rookie while she was talking to someone on Kadara. The highlighted text in the first screenshot really rubs it in! Could this be a "working as intended" from Bioware?
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jun 6, 2017 16:47:11 GMT
You only get 1 chance to make a first impression. As the 1st installment of ME from a new team with a new lead character and story, they had no business releasing this game in the state it was in. Because whilst it could be patched, the first impression is the one that counts. EA aren't strapped for cash and they didn't need to rush this out. But they did. They also didn't have to crumble in the face of adversity either,implicitly agreeing with the many unfair criticisms and total write offs the game got. Or take every opportunity in interviews post release to heap blame on the team for theiri experience etc. But they did. EA get a lot of flak and I've defended tbem in the past, because it was Bioware's foolish choice to sell their independence in the first place. But since ME3 things have spiraled. Its clear that EA have washed their hands of the fans since they were publicly humiliated over the ME3 endings. They are slashing and burning DA snd ME these days, and if they can't get instant good press and sales they don't want to know. They are treating the games, the fans and their own staff with contempt. Even now though, I'm open to a truce. All I care about is seeing the games well funded, supported and given the time to get it right. And the more militant fans needs to knock stunts that target EA and individual Bioware employees out. The kind of atmosphere that has emerged between all parties needs to be repaired. The fans need to calm down, EA needs to view tge situation as more than how to wring money out of ungrateful brats, and Bioware need to reach out to the fans again. Get your factts straight! Bioware did not sell out to EA. The compagny that owned Bioware sold Bioware to EA. BioWare and Pandemic merged in 2005 under the name VG Holding Corp but retained their individual publishing names. They had funding from a private equity firm called Elevation Partners from whome EA later bought VG Holding Corp in 2007. How many times is this gospel sold as thruth!!! You just swallowed the hook, line and sinker. Trusting the company line and the victor's story will leave you confident while simultaneously full of shit. /U/azrael777 said it better than I could: "TL:DR John Riccitiello stepped down from EA CEO to head up a union whose job it was to prevent hostile takeovers/buyouts (like what EA did to bioware), then he becomes bioware/pandemic's CEO and suddenly agrees to sell out to EA, THEN right after the deal is done he leaves bioware and once again becomes EA CEO. The was a total scam by EA to steal bioware away and a nice reminder that EA is a horrible company run by horrible people."
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