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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 11, 2017 11:36:12 GMT
No, Solas directed the Qunari back up north so his two most hated factions, Tevinter slave keepers and Qun mind enslavers, could knock the stuffing out of one another while he quietly got on with setting up his next move. Then just when one or the other of them think they have won, he will just calmly stroll in and enlighten them, probably by revealing that his agents have been manipulating them on both sides. After all both sides use elves so both sides are potentially vulnerable to attack from within.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Oct 11, 2017 12:07:34 GMT
Well, I hope Bioware keep to their romance formula. I just had a time in Divinity Original Sins 2 where I listened to the narrator read out out the whole thing (written tastefully and carefully, no smut); hear the romanced companion say loving things, then having to choose my protag's responses to the on goings. It was a rather weird experience. I was so sorely tempted to choose the MOOOOORE! choice (there were five choices) but decided I'd rather get it all over with. This reminds me of another game, Fahrenheit, where the player is directing the action during the bed scene except that you're watching it, not hearing and reading it. That one also had me going too. wut...?!
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Post by Gwydden on Oct 11, 2017 12:28:58 GMT
Well, I hope Bioware keep to their romance formula. Well, I don’t. Clicking through heart icons isn’t terribly engaging. There must be better ways to build up a relationship than bad flirting
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Post by pinkjellybeans on Oct 11, 2017 14:53:22 GMT
Well, I hope Bioware keep to their romance formula. Well, I don’t. Clicking through heart icons isn’t terribly engaging. There must be better ways to build up a relationship than bad flirting Not sure if you're being serious, but I kinda agree with this actually. I don't mind the flirting options being labelled as such, but I wish there was more to it than just flirting a few times and characters instantly "fall in love". I do love Bioware romances, don't get me wrong, but for example, I feel like Alistair's romance in DAO felt much more natural than any other romance in DA. It's probably mostly because of what he and the warden go through together and how much you actually interact with him throughout the game, but it certainly didn't feel like most Bioware romances where you hit that flirt button a few times and that's it. A good example is also how you first flirt with Cullen at Skyhold, how the Inquisitor is basically saying "I'm glad you made it." It's not exactly flirting, just showing that you care about that person and that you're glad they survived, but it felt a bit out of the blue because in Haven you barely flirt with Cullen or show signs of being interested in him. I wish there was more build up before you reach that point of "I care about you.".
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Post by phoray on Oct 11, 2017 15:18:54 GMT
Weren't there at least two flirt opportunities with Cullen? In Scene and out of Scene. With lots of dialogue just about getting to know him in general. Unlike Alistair, though, there wasn't a recent grief loss to discuss. Alistair would talk about Duncan, The Warden could too, or the conversation could turn to how you yourself had just lost someone close as well. Cousland family, Tamlen, your dwarven life, your mage life.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 11, 2017 15:30:31 GMT
Well, I don’t. Clicking through heart icons isn’t terribly engaging. There must be better ways to build up a relationship than bad flirting Not sure if you're being serious, but I kinda agree with this actually. I don't mind the flirting options being labelled as such, but I wish there was more to it than just flirting a few times and characters instantly "fall in love". They don't...? Unless you get enough approval with them or complete some objectives in their personal story, good luck with the romance, aside from maybe a couple of flirts.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 11, 2017 15:54:07 GMT
No, Solas directed the Qunari back up north so his two most hated factions, Tevinter slave keepers and Qun mind enslavers, could knock the stuffing out of one another while he quietly got on with setting up his next move. Then just when one or the other of them think they have won, he will just calmly stroll in and enlighten them, probably by revealing that his agents have been manipulating them on both sides. After all both sides use elves so both sides are potentially vulnerable to attack from within. What if the shadow Inquisition's job is to make sure neither side gets ahead of the other, so Solas can't swoop in? We'd be Briala. It's so petty, but I keep thinking of that scene at the end of Trespasser and how pissy Solas gets if you steal his thunder and don't let him wax poetic about his motives for killing everyone.
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Post by ellawyn on Oct 11, 2017 15:58:31 GMT
I can understand a desire for a more in-depth romance system, but I'm not sure Bioware can do much without making a straight-up dating sim. I mean, I think it'd be super neat if you had to progress in a romance by giving thoughtful gifts or taking them somewhere nice or something, but - romance is still just a fraction of the game, really. You can't really ask for them to devote so much time and resources to such a small aspect, when they still have a proper game to make.
The best I could suggest that they give more opportunities for character interaction in general. Which should be feasible since 1. Characters are Bioware's bread and butter and 2. I felt like it's something Inquisition was a bit lacking in. But even still, it'd be the same system, just more of it.
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Post by pinkjellybeans on Oct 11, 2017 16:22:28 GMT
Not sure if you're being serious, but I kinda agree with this actually. I don't mind the flirting options being labelled as such, but I wish there was more to it than just flirting a few times and characters instantly "fall in love". They don't...? Unless you get enough approval with them or complete some objectives in their personal story, good luck with the romance, aside from maybe a couple of flirts. Not sure what you mean. In Cullen's case you get to flirt like... 3 times in Haven and it's mostly just some harmless little flirts but then as soon as you reach Skyhold, flirting with him is suddenly super serious like they are already in love with each other. I do want to point out Cullen's romance is one of my favorites though. But what I mean is, I want more build up, more meaningful scenes to happen between two characters before you get to the stage of "starting to fall in love with each other", you know? For example, I like to flirt with everything that moves in games, but it doesn't necessarily has to mean "it's love" straight away. There has to be some more meaningful events that distinguish "love" from "just flirting around". A good example is Peebee's romance where initially it can start out as a fling but then it can turn into something else. Or even Jaal's romance, where you have to get close to him first, get to know him and earn his trust and only then it starts getting serious. It's more gradual. Not sure if I'm making sense here. I can understand a desire for a more in-depth romance system, but I'm not sure Bioware can do much without making a straight-up dating sim. I mean, I think it'd be super neat if you had to progress in a romance by giving thoughtful gifts or taking them somewhere nice or something, but - romance is still just a fraction of the game, really. You can't really ask for them to devote so much time and resources to such a small aspect, when they still have a proper game to make. The best I could suggest that they give more opportunities for character interaction in general. Which should be feasible since 1. Characters are Bioware's bread and butter and 2. I felt like it's something Inquisition was a bit lacking in. But even still, it'd be the same system, just more of it.And that's exactly what I'm saying. Or trying to say, at least. I don't want them to change the system, I just want the romances to feel less rushed, I guess.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 11, 2017 16:34:45 GMT
I understand about feeling rushed. Blackwall's was particularly bad about this - you go from some playfully sexual flirting in Haven and then your VERY FIRST conversation at Skyhold is all, "I KNOW YOU HAVE FEELINGS FOR ME. I CARE ABOUT YOU. NO MILADY WE MUST'NT."
like damn hold the phone son
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Post by nvanfleet on Oct 11, 2017 17:03:08 GMT
Battlefield/Stress romance doesn't generally happen at a standard courtship pace, but yeah Blackwall was just thirsty for attention - being a lone travelling grizzly bear of a man for so long...
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 11, 2017 17:07:34 GMT
Battlefield/Stress romance doesn't generally happen at a standard courtship pace, but yeah Blackwall was just thirsty for attention - being a lone travelling grizzly bear of a man for so long... Good thing he's strangely charming for a man I found wandering the woods.
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Post by nvanfleet on Oct 11, 2017 17:11:02 GMT
Battlefield/Stress romance doesn't generally happen at a standard courtship pace, but yeah Blackwall was just thirsty for attention - being a lone travelling grizzly bear of a man for so long... Good thing he's strangely charming for a man I found wandering woods. I was kinda sad he wasn't a bi romance, though that really didn't stop me from running a rare female playthrough to romance him. I *do* like that an unromanced/kept around Blackwall gets all flirty and sweet with Josephine.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 11, 2017 17:17:22 GMT
Good thing he's strangely charming for a man I found wandering woods. I was kinda sad he wasn't a bi romance, though that really didn't stop me from running a rare female playthrough to romance him. I *do* like that an unromanced/kept around Blackwall gets all flirty and sweet with Josephine. Bearwall would've been a great bi romance, I agree. So much hair... so much dad bod... Speaking of romances, I'm just gonna leave this here:
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Post by nvanfleet on Oct 11, 2017 17:23:30 GMT
YES! This is why I end up with Dorian more often than not, because I just dig him so much for almost precisely that reason. XD
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Post by nvanfleet on Oct 11, 2017 17:24:53 GMT
Dorian and Sera go with me damn near everywhere, and I swap out Blackwall and Iron Bull mostly because I like the way those trios banter soooo much. Though when I get annoyed with Solas I swap him in for Dorian so I can listen to Sera give him endless shit.
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Post by ellawyn on Oct 11, 2017 17:25:27 GMT
Solasmancer and yeah guilty.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 11, 2017 17:41:25 GMT
Dorian and Sera go with me damn near everywhere, and I swap out Blackwall and Iron Bull mostly because I like the way those trios banter soooo much. Though when I get annoyed with Solas I swap him in for Dorian so I can listen to Sera give him endless shit. Same! I tend to have Sera / Dorian / Bull with occasional appearances by Blackwall and Vivienne for.... shit-talking and mayhem, I guess. There are a lot of fun combos in this game. Solasmancer and yeah guilty. Seramancer and yup.... also true. Though I'm stealing Bull's dick jokes and Cullen's dogs.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Oct 11, 2017 18:58:51 GMT
What if the shadow Inquisition's job is to make sure neither side gets ahead of the other, so Solas can't swoop in? We'd be Briala. It's so petty, but I keep thinking of that scene at the end of Trespasser and how pissy Solas gets if you steal his thunder and don't let him wax poetic about his motives for killing everyone. I don't really see him getting unreasonably pissy in this scene - the Inquisitor is pretty pissy to him first. And if his response seems curt, he is only doing what she requested: telling her what's going on as efficiently as possible.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 11, 2017 19:12:25 GMT
Good thing he's strangely charming for a man I found wandering woods. I was kinda sad he wasn't a bi romance, though that really didn't stop me from running a rare female playthrough to romance him. I *do* like that an unromanced/kept around Blackwall gets all flirty and sweet with Josephine.Meanwhile I hated that, and am glad that nothing ever comes of it.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 11, 2017 19:27:42 GMT
What if the shadow Inquisition's job is to make sure neither side gets ahead of the other, so Solas can't swoop in? We'd be Briala. It's so petty, but I keep thinking of that scene at the end of Trespasser and how pissy Solas gets if you steal his thunder and don't let him wax poetic about his motives for killing everyone. I don't really see him getting unreasonably pissy in this scene - the Inquisitor is pretty pissy to him first. And if his response seems curt, he is only doing what she requested: telling her what's going on as efficiently as possible. I think it's more that he's taken aback - look at his expression when she first tells him she doesn't care. He's so ready to present his case that he's really definitely not the bad guy despite planning to a really definitely bad guy thing. And then he grabs her arm roughly. He's much more gentle with a friendly or romanced Inquisitor. To me it seems kind of petulant, like he's a bit salty that you're apathetic to his whole Dread Wolf revelation.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 11, 2017 19:34:03 GMT
I don't really see him getting unreasonably pissy in this scene - the Inquisitor is pretty pissy to him first. And if his response seems curt, he is only doing what she requested: telling her what's going on as efficiently as possible. I think it's more that he's taken aback - look at his expression when she first tells him she doesn't care. He's so ready to present his case that he's really definitely not the bad guy despite planning to a really definitely bad guy thing. And then he grabs her arm roughly. He's much more gentle with a friendly or romanced Inquisitor. To me it seems kind of petulant, like he's a bit salty that you're apathetic to his whole Dread Wolf revelation. The hand grabbing isn't about petulant response to stealing his thunder - just accumulated dislike during his time with Inquisition.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 11, 2017 19:36:16 GMT
I think it's more that he's taken aback - look at his expression when she first tells him she doesn't care. He's so ready to present his case that he's really definitely not the bad guy despite planning to a really definitely bad guy thing. And then he grabs her arm roughly. He's much more gentle with a friendly or romanced Inquisitor. To me it seems kind of petulant, like he's a bit salty that you're apathetic to his whole Dread Wolf revelation. The hand grabbing isn't about petulant response to stealing his thunder - just accumulated dislike during his time with Inquisition. I thought the response in that clip only came up if you ignored him the whole game? Like.... neutral approval, I guess. I don't know because he always has decent approval with me.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 11, 2017 19:49:08 GMT
The hand grabbing isn't about petulant response to stealing his thunder - just accumulated dislike during his time with Inquisition. I thought the response in that clip only came up if you ignored him the whole game? Like.... neutral approval, I guess. I don't know because he always has decent approval with me. No, it's the treatment he saves for disliked Inquisitor. And keep in mind that, at least according to people who datamined the game, we only need +1 approval for him to get a chance to redeem him and a scene when he treats Inky gently. So for him to yank Inky's hand like that, he must actively dislike them.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 11, 2017 20:21:03 GMT
I thought the response in that clip only came up if you ignored him the whole game? Like.... neutral approval, I guess. I don't know because he always has decent approval with me. No, it's the treatment he saves for disliked Inquisitor. And keep in mind that, at least according to people who datamined the game, we only need +1 approval for him to get a chance to redeem him and a scene when he treats Inky gently. So for him to yank Inky's hand like that, he must actively dislike them. Ahh. So maybe a -1 disapproval can earn that scene?
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