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Post by ladyiolanthe on Dec 9, 2017 1:10:55 GMT
Solas isn't a demon as far as we know and he never shows the ability to read people's mind and I'm not sure he can even control what exactly people dream. I mean, he might repeatedly try to see my Inquistor's dream and only see memories of her having sex with Sera for his troubles. Seriously though I suppose Solas might get some basis information from the Fade but I would hope that in DA4 he mostly just uses information gained with through his elven spy network. His spies seemed to have been how he found out about the Qunari plot in Trespasser anyway instead of his dream powers, so why not rely more on that. I think there might be some subtle hints that ancient elves can speak telepathically... Not 100% sure, though. - The Sentinels in the Temple of Mythal seem to know exactly what to do / work perfectly in unison without audibly saying anything to one another / to Abelas.
- Solas and Abelas seem to have a moment at the Well of Souls where they understand each other without saying anything aloud.
- Flemythal and OGB Kieran have a moment in the Fade where they seem to be speaking telepathically.
- Cole 'channels' Solas after Solas has already left the party after defeating Corypheus.
And I think there's a good chance that Solas is part spirit/demon along with other ancient elves (and possibly modern elves and other sentient races in Thedas, too). - The Solas Hermit tarot card hints at a duality - the cloth on his left side hangs down heavily, affected by gravity, while the cloth on his right floats upward to the heavens.
- Solas' conversation with ALL Inquisitors on the balcony at Skyhold has him asking if the Anchor has affected us in any way - "your mind, your morals, your... spirit?" - and the way he says it suggests he doesn't mean it entirely figuratively.
- The self-portrait of Fen'Harel in the Darvaarad shows a wolf / pride demon hybrid as the Dread Wolf. (The Solas Tower tarot card also shows the Dread Wolf with some pride demon characteristics - most notably the multiple eyes).
- 2/4 Trespasser murals of an elf who is probably Solas carry over a similar motif from the Solas Hermit tarot card - the figures right of center look more solid and grounded while the figures left of center look more fluid and floaty. (The other 2 murals in the series are the self-portrait of Fen'Harel mentioned in the previous bullet, and the one where Fen'Harel is removing the vallaslin from the elves. It's worth noting here that Nick Thornborrow, the BioWare artist who made these murals, refers to them as "Solas' murals" on his blog - that suggests to me that Solas is meant to be the in-game artist who made all of these.)
We'll hopefully find out for sure in DA4!
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Post by Pon.ee on Dec 9, 2017 20:11:38 GMT
How would he know if their even a threat to his plan if he doesn't know them already and their acting in secrecy? Also, just because he can enter people's dreams doesn't mean he read their minds for accurate information. The Fade. Remember it remembers past events. Sure it alone isn't reliable but it is when it comes to who was at that event. So with that info he goes from there. It pretty much is in Dragon Age since dreaming is that person's mind entering the Fade. We know Fade entities can read minds since we see that in DAO when they try to create a false paradise to trap the Warden and Co. But dwarves don't dream, he won't see Lace there whether he wants to or not ahah.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 9, 2017 20:21:15 GMT
The Fade. Remember it remembers past events. Sure it alone isn't reliable but it is when it comes to who was at that event. So with that info he goes from there. It pretty much is in Dragon Age since dreaming is that person's mind entering the Fade. We know Fade entities can read minds since we see that in DAO when they try to create a false paradise to trap the Warden and Co. But dwarves don't dream, he won't see Lace there whether he wants to or not ahah. I'd say dwarves don't remember their dreams because their connection isn't strong enough though one does exist, since they are certainly able to be put into the Fade via dreams as we see in DAO and DA2 and in DAI there is all those revelations about them being connected to Lyrium and the Titans.
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Post by Pon.ee on Dec 9, 2017 20:37:50 GMT
But dwarves don't dream, he won't see Lace there whether he wants to or not ahah. I'd say dwarves don't remember their dreams because their connection isn't strong enough though one does exist, since they are certainly able to be put into the Fade via dreams as we see in DAO and DA2 and in DAI there is all those revelations about them being connected to Lyrium and the Titans. Well maybe they might dream eventually. Surfacer dwarves are said to lose their stone sense and I suppose their resistance to lyrium could eventually diminish too. That's what keeps them from the fade so I suppose surface dwarves far removed from lyrium may begin to dream. Its an interesting topic to think about anyway. I don't think being forced into the fade by demons is the same as dreaming though, I don't recall their being any codex entries to explain why it happens anyway.
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Post by phoray on Dec 9, 2017 22:28:50 GMT
Today I was thinking, I'd trade having four voice actors for PC for more Racial and Class differences support. If there is really a word budget, having the same lines read by two extra voice actors probably ate up a LOT
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Post by Zemgus on Dec 9, 2017 22:48:36 GMT
Hey, nice to see some Technomancer love here! I loved it, better than MEA any day every way, was disappointing to read those reviews. No, the combat was nothing special and I would've liked to be able to explore Mars a little more, but the story was still pretty solid. Good, fun game.
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Post by phoray on Dec 12, 2017 14:03:45 GMT
copied from other random conversation: There was not enough Sandal in DAI. I hope he makes a comeback for DA4 and his specialness gets explained. What if he were touched by a Titan and was like, a perfect conduit for it's voice and he started talking all wise.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 13, 2017 17:00:48 GMT
The scene below will be key in stopping Solas
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Post by jrpN7 on Dec 13, 2017 17:15:00 GMT
The Inquisitor has to return. If we get another new protagonist like all the other DAs, I'll be a bit sour. Lol. It's time the DA series sticks to a protagonist. The Inquisitor accomplished so much, and is capable of so much more. It would seem ill fit to crank out a fourth protagonist. Even if the new protagonist worked heavily alongside the Inquisitor, it would muddle things a bit too much for my taste. I guess I'm also yearning for the old Inquisition to return. (Finished a play through tonight- I'm chilling in the the overwhelming post-game sad feels). Josephine looks like she's finished. And Cullen too, if the Inquisition is disbanded. Only Cassandra and Liliana for certain are to remain. And one of them is likely to be divine for most people, so that complicates things further. The Inquisitor will be more of a one person show- which breaks my heart a bit. Sure, we'll get a new inner circle... but, will we?!?
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Dec 13, 2017 19:25:11 GMT
The scene below will be key in stopping Solas Nah. He'll be to busy fighting some rich Orlesian in a stupid bat costume to deal with Solas.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 13, 2017 19:51:52 GMT
Nah. He'll be to busy fighting some rich Orlesian in a stupid bat costume to deal with Solas. The person may not, but the powers possibly can be transferred to someone to use against Solas
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Post by vallixas on Dec 14, 2017 10:41:35 GMT
Hey, nice to see some Technomancer love here! I loved it, better than MEA any day every way, was disappointing to read those reviews. No, the combat was nothing special and I would've liked to be able to explore Mars a little more, but the story was still pretty solid. Good, fun game. It had a better plot than Andromeda for sure. The Technomancer sufferred due to lack of funds. The developer clearly had bigger dreams than it's wallet could afford. It's evident in the later stages of the game where you have to keep going back and forth to the same locations. They had to reuse them because they ran out of money. It's a shame, I would love to see what that developer could do with a bigger budget. I loved Andrew and that Red headed chick possibly more than the companions in Andromeda.
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Post by grallon on Dec 14, 2017 23:41:03 GMT
Barring the escalating clouds on the horizon, and if/when we do get DA4, I expect a well thought out closure of the Solas arc and a good setup for the franchise conclusion: the release of the Evanuris, the last two blights (which might be coextant or even simultaneous) and the end of the Dragon Age. I expect Morrigan will play Flemmeth's role now and I would greatly appreciate if the Inquisitor was involved somehow; maybe not as a co-protagonist but he/she needs to be the one who ends Solas in one way or another. In terms of pure mechanics I would prefer a small close-knit group to a large roster of potential companions; the ability to mod at will, customize to my heart's content (including the companions' appearances) and a crafting system where you can recycle pretty much everything. This means you can on reusing tier one schematics if you enjoy the look and they will get better if you upgrade the mats you use to craft them with. But honestly between the constant brain-drain going on at Bioware and EA's relentless grubby greed I'm getting increasingly concerned about the future of the franchise.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 15, 2017 18:11:42 GMT
How likely is it that Dorian/Maevaris/the Lucerni will butt heads with Calpernia (if she returns)? They both want to reform Tevinter, but they have very different ideas about how that should happen and they're focused on different issues.
Dorian and co. are working from the top down, focusing on government and legislation, and their main issue seems to be Tevinter's widespread abuse of blood magic. Neither Dorian or Mae seem overly concerned about the existence of slavery. (You could make a point about Dorian's conversation with Solas, I suppose. Or his association with the Inquisitor in general.)
Calpernia's possibly in hiding due to her association with Corypheus and possibly being implicated in the deaths of two magisters (plus a bunch of plebs and southerners, but Tevinter dgaf about that). Her main gripe is slavery and that slaves aren't given the opportunities they deserve even if they're wildly talented. She hates the Qunari and seems like she'd be reforming Tevinter from the bottom up. Slave revolts, maybe? Would she ever work with Solas?
This is just a bunch of BS speculation but I thought it'd be fun. If this scenario came to a head, who would you side with?
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Post by correctamundo on Dec 15, 2017 21:01:11 GMT
How likely is it that Dorian/Maevaris/the Lucerni will butt heads with Calpernia (if she returns)? They both want to reform Tevinter, but they have very different ideas about how that should happen and they're focused on different issues. Dorian and co. are working from the top down, focusing on government and legislation, and their main issue seems to be Tevinter's widespread abuse of blood magic. Neither Dorian or Mae seem overly concerned about the existence of slavery. (You could make a point about Dorian's conversation with Solas, I suppose. Or his association with the Inquisitor in general.) Calpernia's possibly in hiding due to her association with Corypheus and possibly being implicated in the deaths of two magisters (plus a bunch of plebs and southerners, but Tevinter dgaf about that). Her main gripe is slavery and that slaves aren't given the opportunities they deserve even if they're wildly talented. She hates the Qunari and seems like she'd be reforming Tevinter from the bottom up. Slave revolts, maybe? Would she ever work with Solas? This is just a bunch of BS speculation but I thought it'd be fun. If this scenario came to a head, who would you side with? Even though Calpernias cause is just she is way to fanatic to side with. Dorian all the way.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 17, 2017 1:00:54 GMT
This is just a bunch of BS speculation but I thought it'd be fun. If this scenario came to a head, who would you side with? None. Don't like any of them. If I am forced to pick one, I guess I'd choose Dorian. Definitely not Calpernia though. The only future she deserves after all the things she has done is a short drop and a sudden stop.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 25, 2017 14:53:03 GMT
How likely is it that Dorian/Maevaris/the Lucerni will butt heads with Calpernia (if she returns)? They both want to reform Tevinter, but they have very different ideas about how that should happen and they're focused on different issues. Dorian and co. are working from the top down, focusing on government and legislation, and their main issue seems to be Tevinter's widespread abuse of blood magic. Neither Dorian or Mae seem overly concerned about the existence of slavery. (You could make a point about Dorian's conversation with Solas, I suppose. Or his association with the Inquisitor in general.) Calpernia's possibly in hiding due to her association with Corypheus and possibly being implicated in the deaths of two magisters (plus a bunch of plebs and southerners, but Tevinter dgaf about that). Her main gripe is slavery and that slaves aren't given the opportunities they deserve even if they're wildly talented. She hates the Qunari and seems like she'd be reforming Tevinter from the bottom up. Slave revolts, maybe? Would she ever work with Solas? This is just a bunch of BS speculation but I thought it'd be fun. If this scenario came to a head, who would you side with? Even though Calpernias cause is just she is way to fanatic to side with. Dorian all the way. I can't decide, I can't decide! :dumb: This is just a bunch of BS speculation but I thought it'd be fun. If this scenario came to a head, who would you side with? None. Don't like any of them. If I am forced to pick one, I guess I'd choose Dorian. Definitely not Calpernia though. The only future she deserves after all the things she has done is a short drop and a sudden stop. That sudden stop will actually be her realizing she's madly in love with me. And then we're going to ride off into the Qarinus sunset.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 26, 2017 17:26:50 GMT
Would she ever work with Solas? I think a more pertinent questions is would Solas work with her? If he is present when you let her go, he disapproves. Whereas Dorian approves of your action, even approving of her verbally. So on that basis it is more likely that Calpernia would team up with the Lucerni than Solas. I doubt Calpernia would be overjoyed at the idea of being destroyed by Solas' plan, Of course Solas is not above using people to aid his cause, so I could see him manipulating Calpernia into helping him via one of his agents but only in order to advance his own scheme either because a slave revolt would provide a nice smoke screen to what he might be doing (although that is likely already happening with the Tevinter/Qunari war) or in order to recover an artefact he needs. Dorian said there were pictures of foci like Solas' orb in the Tevinter archives and we are also told the priesthood of Razikale used them in whatever they were doing in the Frostback Basin, so it is possible that one or more still exist somewhere deep beneath Minrathous, probably looted from the city in Arlathan Forest. It is also possible that the ancient Tevinter never worked out how to use them fully.
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Post by Faust on Dec 26, 2017 22:01:42 GMT
I learned that Anthem's release date is set for fall 2018. Smells like no Dragon age before 2019. : / Is that the common consensus ?
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Post by Lazarillo on Dec 26, 2017 23:06:02 GMT
I learned that Anthem's release date is set for fall 2018. Smells like no Dragon age before 2019. : / Is that the common consensus ? Yep. And since Anthem will probably get delayed to 2019, I wouldn't expect new DA until 2021, really.
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Post by Fredward on Dec 27, 2017 6:33:36 GMT
I read a random post on Reddit that apparently the dev team for DA4 is double what it was for DAI, anyone got a source on that? Or even the vague direction that rumour wafted from? It could be encouraging, it could also mean they're making it an MMO as I'm pretty sure those need really big teams. Another thing I saw mentioned was the fact that the devs seem to be putting up a lot/all of the major nations as being leaderless. Celene doesn't have any kids and is 40, Gaspard apparently doesn't either. The ruler of Nevarra is an old, half-senile man with a large and ambitious family plus another influential family the Von Markhams waiting on the sidelines, no matter who's ruler Fereldan they don't have kids, we know the king of the Anderfels is weak and that the First Warden is into politicking, Antiva is a plutocracy and you'd assume there'd be some chaos of they all died at once, Varric doesn't have an heir, Sebastian doesn't have an heir, I don't know how Rivain works, the Chantry is only now getting back on its feet (though I don't expect that attempt to work) Radonis might not yet have designated an heir though Tevinter seems the least likely to have a sudden death be too much of a blow unless most of the Magisterium goes with it. Imagine if the opening scene in DA4 is shadowy elves emerging from the eluvians, knives glinting off candlelight and assassinating the majority of the world's leaders, a final blow to a softened south that makes them much too appealing to the qunari and precipitating the largest invasion Thedas has ever seen? On a scale of 1-10 how hard would you lose your mind if someone like Alistair or Varric was assassinated mostly off-screen, during a prologue and you couldn't do anything about it? I think I'd be horrified, angry, shocked, impressed by the ballsiness. Also, a vision of what defending Minrathous could be: The Archon finishes a rousing, Braveheart-like speech that ends in "And this is Sparta! Tevinter!" or something suitably epic. The camera shifts to show massive vats of lyrium being tipped over and running along funnels towards where the Archon is standing, the center of a stylized lyrium channeling circle thingy. Rows upon rows of slaves are executed and their blood joins the lyrium, the executions are brutal yet efficient, brutal because apparently the amount of pain that someone is sacrificed in effects the amount of power their blood provides and efficient cuz they're on a timetable here. Maybe the slaves have some martyr like symbology going on like nails through their palms and eyeless sockets weeping blood (not that I really expect Bioware to be that gross), which'd also communicate a variety of things from 1) more suffering = good 2) cattle don't panic when they can't see (meant to indicate an attitude, not reality) 3) yeah we're sacrificing them but they're martyrs for glorious Tevinter. The Archon (who could be Radonis, Dorian, Maevaris, the Player, Calpernia [though probably not with the slave sacrifice]) starts gathering the lyrium/blood around them in these fast moving circle things and starts floating into the air, high above the walls and out into the bay. The lyrium/blood seems to spin faster as they come to a halt, flashes into raw energy and seems to sink into their skin. As it does huge, towering, billowing black and purple clouds seem to materialize out of nowhere behind them. The camera shifts again giving a bird's eye view of what exactly the Tevinters are facing here. They're surrounded on all sides, dozens of huge qunari dreadnought with hundreds of smaller ones closing in from the harbor. There's even a land army amassing but the bridge has been destroyed, you can see small grey figures swarming around what remains of the supports to build something functional to get the army across though. The Juggernauts judder to life (at least one of which the player needed to fix since it it was broken/neglected into uselessness) and reach for their giant boulder projectiles. Minrathous' defense navy surrounds the city and the camera moves down there to give you a closer look of some more sacrificed slaves. You assume they're empowering the ships mages but the water is stained crimson by the sheer amount of slaves being sacrificed and the camera sort of sinks with the wispy crimson into the inky black water and you hear... whispers? As the first pillarous (pillar-ous? Like a pillar) bolt of lightning smashes into a qunari dreadnought (suitably huge explosion cuz gunpowder, the qunari anticipated this and spread their ships out but even so a few have to stamp out fires from the fallout) the camera moves back to the Archon's perspective. A poorly trained saarebas who only knows how to destroy briefly tries to shield the ship but this is Tevinter at it's contemporary height and resistance is futile. The water seemingly starts to boil and a massive scaled figure slides beneath the surface moving towards another dreadnought. This is what the sacrifices on the ship were for, sea dragons bound to Tevinter with blood magic, the unseen ace up the Magisters sleeve. It erupts from the water with a shriek, wraps itself around a dreadnought crushing it and dragging it under. And there are like three of them. This'd be the the competent and unapologetic Tevinter supremacist/patriot (depending on your perspective) player's Tevinter. If you were a competent reformist you'd just have large vats of lyrium, the storm you summon wouldn't be quite as epic and you wouldn't rise up into the air. If you were less competent (or in Inquisition's terms you hadn't amassed enough power [though this'd be hidden] or you hadn't done certain missions) maybe one of the Juggernauts stayed dormant, or only half of the bridge got blown up cuz some of the detonations failed, or the binding on one of the cetus failed and it attacks the navy, or half of the navy is missing since the threat was underestimated and they were sent to attack the Qunari away from Minrathous or there need to be guards protecting the sacrifices since the slaves are still bellicose etc. If Minrathous needed to fall for plot reasons regardless of what the player's done to try and fix its shit then this could all be a glorious (costly, very costly) distraction on the Qunari's part. The real attack has been taking place for decades, viddathari quietly recruited and hiding in the massive catacombs beneath the city (no one really notices the slaves and everyone expects them to go missing with no explanation every once in a while right?) rise up and cut down the Magisters from behind as they're defending the city. If it needs to be Solas capitalizing on the Qunari and Tevinter smashing each other to bits it could pretty easily be his elves doing the killing instead.
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Post by phoray on Dec 27, 2017 6:38:35 GMT
read a random post on Reddit that apparently the dev team for DA4 is double what it was for DAI, anyone got a source on that? Hrungr ?? it could also mean they're making it an MMO as I'm pretty sure those need really big teams. sounds friggen awful. On a scale of 1-10 how hard would you lose your mind if someone like Alistair or Varric was assassinated mostly off-screen, over 9000. If they killed Alistair, stealing what remains of his Warden life with his Warden wife, I... I... I wouldn't buy it. I just straight wouldn't buy it. That's the line, I didn't know there would be a line, but you've found it for me.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 27, 2017 7:07:26 GMT
read a random post on Reddit that apparently the dev team for DA4 is double what it was for DAI, anyone got a source on that? Hrungr ?? Yeah, I'd definitely like to see a source for that. AFAIK, the bulk of BW's efforts are still being put towards Anthem. There is a team working on DA4, but the last I heard it was still a relatively small one. With the Montreal studio gone, the Edmonton studio down to ~300 (from ~450 a few years back), and the Austin studio juggling a number of projects, they'd have to be outsourcing a ton o' work to get those kinds of numbers. It's not impossible I guess, but I haven't heard anything along those lines myself...
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 27, 2017 8:44:15 GMT
Yeah, I'd definitely like to see a source for that. AFAIK, the bulk of BW's efforts are still being put towards Anthem. There is a team working on DA4, but the last I heard it was still a relatively small one. With the Montreal studio gone, the Edmonton studio down to ~300 (from ~450 a few years back), and the Austin studio juggling a number of projects, they'd have to be outsourcing a ton o' work to get those kinds of numbers. It's not impossible I guess, but I haven't heard anything along those lines myself... Outsourcing? Some of it, likely. But I think they'd just get other EA studios involved. Motive and Vancouver probably first on the list, especially with Motive absorbing BW Monteral.
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Post by rras1994 on Dec 27, 2017 10:20:55 GMT
Yeah, I'd definitely like to see a source for that. AFAIK, the bulk of BW's efforts are still being put towards Anthem. There is a team working on DA4, but the last I heard it was still a relatively small one. With the Montreal studio gone, the Edmonton studio down to ~300 (from ~450 a few years back), and the Austin studio juggling a number of projects, they'd have to be outsourcing a ton o' work to get those kinds of numbers. It's not impossible I guess, but I haven't heard anything along those lines myself... Outsourcing? Some of it, likely. But I think they'd just get other EA studios involved. Motive and Vancouver probably first on the list, especially with Motive absorbing BW Monteral. I wouldn't be surprised if there were EA studios that are basically support studios, as that does seem to be one of the reasons EA has been pushing for all studios to work on Frostbyte engine as it makes it much easiar, however both Motive and Vancouver have projects of their own. Vancouver got the Star Wars project from Visceral and Motive is working with Jade Raymond on a new IP. Though I don't think the new IP is out til fiscal year 2022 (I think? I could be remembering wrong) and Vancouver would have just got the Star Wars game and it's basically starting from scratch with a few assets, so maybe they don't need all their development staff at this early stage?
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