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Post by midnight tea on Dec 27, 2017 10:28:10 GMT
Outsourcing? Some of it, likely. But I think they'd just get other EA studios involved. Motive and Vancouver probably first on the list, especially with Motive absorbing BW Monteral. I wouldn't be surprised if there were EA studios that are basically support studios, as that does seem to be one of the reasons EA has been pushing for all studios to work on Frostbyte engine as it makes it much easiar, however both Motive and Vancouver have projects of their own. Vancouver got the Star Wars project from Visceral and Motive is working with Jade Raymond on a new IP. Though I don't think the new IP is out til fiscal year 2022 (I think? I could be remembering wrong) and Vancouver would have just got the Star Wars game and it's basically starting from scratch with a few assets, so maybe they don't need all their development staff at this early stage? From what I know Motive has its own game in development, yet they've also been helping with Battlefront 2 for months before launch. So it's not like they don't have manpower to deal with more than one project at once, or had it redirected when it was deemed necessary.
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Post by rras1994 on Dec 27, 2017 10:35:28 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if there were EA studios that are basically support studios, as that does seem to be one of the reasons EA has been pushing for all studios to work on Frostbyte engine as it makes it much easiar, however both Motive and Vancouver have projects of their own. Vancouver got the Star Wars project from Visceral and Motive is working with Jade Raymond on a new IP. Though I don't think the new IP is out til fiscal year 2022 (I think? I could be remembering wrong) and Vancouver would have just got the Star Wars game and it's basically starting from scratch with a few assets, so maybe they don't need all their development staff at this early stage? From what I know Motive has its own game in development, yet they've also been helping with Battlefront 2 for months before launch. So it's not like they don't have manpower to deal with more than one project at once, or had it redirected when it was deemed necessary. Yeah, like I said I'm not entirely sure at what stage the new IP is in development, I think they announced it for fiscal year 2022, which could still mean it's early development, and I'd imagine a new IP likely needs longer pre development period then other projects. I just know that EA have been investing heavily in these new IPs (Anthem and the Jade Raymond one), apparently 25% of their budget for games. But EA has a lot of studios and they don't bring out as many games per year as they used to so they likely have a large number of employees they keep to move from project to project as needed. I can't help but feel that Dragon Age is further down the development pipeline then we think, though I don't really have much evidence for this, just a hunch
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Post by wickedcool on Dec 27, 2017 12:48:53 GMT
do people have guesses on who “those across the sea are”. I found it odd on Cullen’s report that the outpost joined willingly.
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Post by Faust on Dec 27, 2017 17:00:54 GMT
Yep. And since Anthem will probably get delayed to 2019, I wouldn't expect new DA until 2021, really. 2020, Bioware is proud to announce the release date of their new game, Dragon age ; the gathering, a brand new trading card game !
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Post by rras1994 on Dec 27, 2017 17:08:55 GMT
I learned that Anthem's release date is set for fall 2018. Smells like no Dragon age before 2019. : / Is that the common consensus ? Yep. And since Anthem will probably get delayed to 2019, I wouldn't expect new DA until 2021, really. Actually, the latest Anthem can release is March 2019 as EA have already slated it for release in the fiscal year 2019. There's not really much of an indication of a delay from the 2018 Fall date they've already advertised either?
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 27, 2017 18:29:02 GMT
Yep. And since Anthem will probably get delayed to 2019, I wouldn't expect new DA until 2021, really. Actually, the latest Anthem can release is March 2019 as EA have already slated it for release in the fiscal year 2019. There's not really much of an indication of a delay from the 2018 Fall date they've already advertised either? From the recent Nasdaq conference, it does sound like Anthem's being pushed into 2019... comicbook.com/gaming/2017/12/05/electronic-arts-motive-new-ip/Electronic Arts Chief Financial Officer Blake Jorgensen took the spotlight during the 27th Nasdaq Investor Conference to discuss future plans for the mega publisher. During his time on stage, he discussed the status of BioWare's Anthem, as well as a little more insight into EA Motive's mystery IP.
With confirmation that Anthem will be released before March 31st 2019, Jorgensen moved onto the new IP under Motive. With Jade Raymond at the helm, Jorgensen alluded to a much later than anticipated release, with an estimated timeline sitting April 2020 through March 2022. With the initial projection slated for 2021, this is fairly indicative of the latter end of that timeframe.
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Post by rras1994 on Dec 27, 2017 18:38:48 GMT
Actually, the latest Anthem can release is March 2019 as EA have already slated it for release in the fiscal year 2019. There's not really much of an indication of a delay from the 2018 Fall date they've already advertised either? From the recent Nasdaq conference, it does sound like Anthem's being pushed into 2019... comicbook.com/gaming/2017/12/05/electronic-arts-motive-new-ip/Electronic Arts Chief Financial Officer Blake Jorgensen took the spotlight during the 27th Nasdaq Investor Conference to discuss future plans for the mega publisher. During his time on stage, he discussed the status of BioWare's Anthem, as well as a little more insight into EA Motive's mystery IP.
With confirmation that Anthem will be released before March 31st 2019, Jorgensen moved onto the new IP under Motive. With Jade Raymond at the helm, Jorgensen alluded to a much later than anticipated release, with an estimated timeline sitting April 2020 through March 2022. With the initial projection slated for 2021, this is fairly indicative of the latter end of that timeframe. That's just saying it's to be released in the fiscal year 2019 though? I mean they are giving themselves a leeway of about 6 months if they need it, but that doesn't actually mean they'll delay it, they seem to be positioning it as their big game just before the christmas season, I don't think EA really have anything else to fill that gap (though there are rumours of a new Battlefield but it has less official info then Anthem does). I mean it's a year away, given how game development is like and they need everything to come out of the box right (they made the mistake with SWTOR where they had to cut some mulitplayer content before release as they weren't willing to delay), nothing is completely set in stone, they will give some leeway, it's just way too early to say it's getting delayed yet.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 27, 2017 19:10:49 GMT
From the recent Nasdaq conference, it does sound like Anthem's being pushed into 2019... comicbook.com/gaming/2017/12/05/electronic-arts-motive-new-ip/Electronic Arts Chief Financial Officer Blake Jorgensen took the spotlight during the 27th Nasdaq Investor Conference to discuss future plans for the mega publisher. During his time on stage, he discussed the status of BioWare's Anthem, as well as a little more insight into EA Motive's mystery IP.
With confirmation that Anthem will be released before March 31st 2019, Jorgensen moved onto the new IP under Motive. With Jade Raymond at the helm, Jorgensen alluded to a much later than anticipated release, with an estimated timeline sitting April 2020 through March 2022. With the initial projection slated for 2021, this is fairly indicative of the latter end of that timeframe. That's just saying it's to be released in the fiscal year 2019 though? I mean they are giving themselves a leeway of about 6 months if they need it, but that doesn't actually mean they'll delay it, they seem to be positioning it as their big game just before the christmas season, I don't think EA really have anything else to fill that gap (though there are rumours of a new Battlefield but it has less official info then Anthem does). I mean it's a year away, given how game development is like and they need everything to come out of the box right (they made the mistake with SWTOR where they had to cut some mulitplayer content before release as they weren't willing to delay), nothing is completely set in stone, they will give some leeway, it's just way too early to say it's getting delayed yet. It still might make 2018, but I think if things were still on track for the Christmas sales season, that's what I would have expected to hear. That reassurance to investors it wasn't going to miss that quarter. If the project is drifting off-schedule now, and won't be able to triage their way back on schedule, they'll know now they won't be able to make the release date. I could also see a delay simply to avoid having it go head-to-head with other big games in that time-frame. When Anthem didn't make the Game Awards "Most Anticipated" list, and Casey Hudson still came on as one of the presenters, I had a feeling it might be because they were told it wasn't going to make 2018. We'll just have to wait and see...
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Post by Faust on Dec 27, 2017 20:58:58 GMT
Well, if the writing for DA4 had begun in may 2017 (pcgamesn), a potential release date of Anthem in March 2019 would still be before the minimum 2y of development for DA4, and there is not always huge gap between two EA game releases.
What I'm afraid of, is that there is a Dragon Age project, but DA4 is not confirmed (twit from M.Laidlaw IIRC). I'm not found of the idea of a spin off. Like not at all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 3:56:01 GMT
Well, if the writing for DA4 begun in may 2017 (pcgamesn), a potential release date of Anthem in March 2019 would still be before the minimum 2y of development for DA4, and there is not always huge gap between two EA game releases. What I'm afraid of, is that there is a Dragon Age project, but DA4 is not confirmed (twit from M.Laidlaw IIRC). I'm not found of the idea of a spin off. Like not at all. I thought Anthem was coming out in 2018?
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Post by warden on Dec 28, 2017 20:08:57 GMT
Well, if the writing for DA4 begun in may 2017 (pcgamesn), a potential release date of Anthem in March 2019 would still be before the minimum 2y of development for DA4, and there is not always huge gap between two EA game releases. What I'm afraid of, is that there is a Dragon Age project, but DA4 is not confirmed (twit from M.Laidlaw IIRC). I'm not found of the idea of a spin off. Like not at all. I thought Anthem was coming out in 2018? an open secret says that it will be delayed to 2019 probably between march-may of that year for a release. the funny thing would be if they cancel the game (worst things happened) but obviously will not happen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 1:46:44 GMT
I thought Anthem was coming out in 2018? an open secret says that it will be delayed to 2019 probably between march-may of that year for a release. the funny thing would be if they cancel the game (worst things happened) but obviously will not happen. Oh...well ok then.
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Post by Heimdall on Dec 29, 2017 17:23:05 GMT
Well, if the writing for DA4 begun in may 2017 (pcgamesn), a potential release date of Anthem in March 2019 would still be before the minimum 2y of development for DA4, and there is not always huge gap between two EA game releases. What I'm afraid of, is that there is a Dragon Age project, but DA4 is not confirmed (twit from M.Laidlaw IIRC). I'm not found of the idea of a spin off. Like not at all. I thought Anthem was coming out in 2018? There’s a rumor that it will be delayed until 2019, but that’s really all it is.
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Post by Faust on Dec 29, 2017 17:53:37 GMT
I wonder if they'll have to, because of the microtransaction/lootbox system that is certainly in the game.
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 29, 2017 19:30:41 GMT
I wonder if they'll have to, because of the microtransaction/lootbox system that is certainly in the game. I don't think mtx/lootbox system would require significant delay.
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Post by river82 on Dec 30, 2017 4:36:54 GMT
I wonder if they'll have to, because of the microtransaction/lootbox system that is certainly in the game. I don't think mtx/lootbox system would require significant delay. Removing any lootboxes won't take long, but if they're weighing up alternate extra monetary schemes to implement that's what may take a little while.
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Post by Heimdall on Dec 30, 2017 9:06:44 GMT
I don't think mtx/lootbox system would require significant delay. Removing any lootboxes won't take long, but if they're weighing up alternate extra monetary schemes to implement that's what may take a little while. Word from a creative director on the project indicates that they had not settled on a micro transaction strategy as of two months ago. So I doubt this will have much impact on their development timeline.
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Post by Lazarillo on Dec 30, 2017 21:06:23 GMT
Word from a creative director on the project indicates that they had not settled on a micro transaction strategy as of two months ago. So I doubt this will have much impact on their development timeline. Heck, officially, word from the creative director of the DA team is that they're not working on Dragon Age 4 yet, either.
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 30, 2017 21:09:53 GMT
Word from a creative director on the project indicates that they had not settled on a micro transaction strategy as of two months ago. So I doubt this will have much impact on their development timeline. Officially, word from the creative director of the DA team is that they're not working on Dragon Age 4 yet, either. Actually, what they say is that they can't confirm they're working on DA4. So we don't know at what stage anything is.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 30, 2017 21:53:50 GMT
It's so frustrating. I wish they'd at least say they're working on it.
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Post by LordGunSmith90 on Dec 30, 2017 22:55:23 GMT
Maybe we will get something at E3 2018.
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 30, 2017 23:01:00 GMT
Maybe we will get something at E3 2018. Honestly? I'd be happy with something quirky, like a flyer inside a copy of "Hard In Hightown" book that strategically flies out when we first open the book and is all like like "YES! WE'RE MAKING IT, PEOPLE!"
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Post by Avejajed on Dec 30, 2017 23:29:34 GMT
Is there even a replacement announcement for Laidlaw?
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 30, 2017 23:39:06 GMT
Is there even a replacement announcement for Laidlaw? Nope. And I don't expect it to happen. By that I mean that they probably already have someone in the role - probably Dan Kading, perhaps teamed up with Weekes and Epler - but won't be announcing stuff. We'll maaaaybe learn who's been steering this ship on some sort of premiere or presentation... unless they decide to leave that to current GM.
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Post by river82 on Dec 31, 2017 1:04:23 GMT
Is there even a replacement announcement for Laidlaw? Nope. And I don't expect it to happen. By that I mean that they probably already have someone in the role - probably Dan Kading, perhaps teamed up with Weekes and Epler - but won't be announcing stuff. We'll maaaaybe learn who's been steering this ship on some sort of premiere or presentation... unless they decide to leave that to current GM. Daniel Kading - formerly a designer on Warhammer 40,000. Excellent! Exactly the sort of person to take Dragon Age's combat back towards Bioware's roots :3
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