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Post by Suaimhneas on Jun 7, 2017 0:26:09 GMT
Why don't make Suvi a love interest for Scott? Everyone knows. I would ask for a ingame source for " And as the angara have expressed their fluidity in how they perceive gender", but i am beyond caring by now, BW would pull one out of their ass anyhow. When the devs admit to go asking for advice to LGBTQ+ groups about changing the game, then i know BW is doomed. This is just fan pandering to a vocal minority, in order to dress themselves with the "represent everyone" aura, a useful mechanism to gather some goodwill and most importantly deflect criticism, guess BW wants people to stop talking about the shitty things in the game. Fan pandering? Hardly. The m/m romances were insufficient for even hitting the 3 romances achievement. This was a fix that means every player can enjoy a range of romance options. There are already several female romance options for Scott. On top of this Suvi is one of two lesbian LI's in the Mass Effect series and the only one in ME:A.
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Post by duckley on Jun 7, 2017 0:28:07 GMT
Congrats on giving fans what they wanted in terms of an improved CC, couldn't care less about Jamal, and had no idea this was an issue. Personally I would have liked more hetero human LI choices but that's just me...
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Post by smilesja on Jun 7, 2017 0:28:20 GMT
It feels uncomfortable with jaal sexuality changed
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Post by sageoflife on Jun 7, 2017 0:30:04 GMT
Congrats on giving fans what they wanted in terms of an improved CC, couldn't care less about Jamal, and had no idea this was an issue. Personally I would have liked more hetero human LI choices but that's just me... You really don't see why it would be an issue for gay men to have no options on the squad while also not being able to get every achievement?
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Post by Furisco on Jun 7, 2017 0:34:14 GMT
Congrats on giving fans what they wanted in terms of an improved CC, couldn't care less about Jamal, and had no idea this was an issue. Personally I would have liked more hetero human LI choices but that's just me... Jamal lmao
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Post by caridounette on Jun 7, 2017 0:34:17 GMT
Yes he will. Bisexual men in relationships with women aren't any less bisexual. Haha meaning he's not going to chat about his male LI's to Sara. It seems some people think making him bi will change him as a character and I'm not sure how that works. Im wondering the same thing... It doesnt invalidate the player being straight that their LI isnt. Why would a bi character love their current partner any less ? At best Sara got her man over all the others, female and male. She's just that awesome. As a straight female I dont see what im losing here, even when squinting very hard. Jaal cant dies, wont cheat on you, wants a lasting relationship...
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Post by theedeathmaster on Jun 7, 2017 0:34:21 GMT
Yall a bunch of ignorant bigots! You humans are all racist!
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Post by Furisco on Jun 7, 2017 0:35:12 GMT
Congrats on giving fans what they wanted in terms of an improved CC, couldn't care less about Jamal, and had no idea this was an issue. Personally I would have liked more hetero human LI choices but that's just me... You really don't see why it wouldn't be an issue for gay men to have no options on the squad while also not being able to get every achievement? You're trying harder than me.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jun 7, 2017 0:35:27 GMT
So many changes and all people talk about is romance and sex.
People never change.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 7, 2017 0:37:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 0:37:34 GMT
Haha meaning he's not going to chat about his male LI's to Sara. It seems some people think making him bi will change him as a character and I'm not sure how that works. Im wondering the same thing... It doesnt invalidate the player being straight that their LI isnt. Why would a bi character love their current partner any less ? At best Sara got her man over all the others, female and male. She's just that awesome. As a straight female I dont see what im losing here, even when squinting very hard. Jaal cant dies, wont cheat on you, wants a lasting relationship... Yeah Sara's stuff is unchanged. Only Scott gets a new experience that's not related to Sara at all. It's not like PeeBee and Vetra's romance. This is just for the guys.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 7, 2017 0:41:55 GMT
Sure thing, nothing ever indicated he was interested in ladies only - just a few ambient dialogs and his intensive flirting with Cora and PeeBee. And romance with Sara, but who cares about that, right? Actually, who cares about straight women in general? Always less options than straight males (and now less than gay) - check, those LI's are among least popular squd-mates - check, available LI's can be killed during story or cheat on you - check, LI's can suddenly change their sexuality - check. Guess, straight girls still should be thankful that they are able to get some LI's at all. Really, these are just some bunch of straight women, an obvious insignificant minority in the sea of BW fans. The fact that jaal is interested in ladies does not mean he can't be interested in man, one does not negate the other. He could be a bissexual with preference for woman And in dragon age inquisition, the straight woman got twice the amount of romance straight guy had. And really why straight woman are being brought here? Its not like they lose something with this patch, jaal is still available to straight woman. And no technically straight woman have just as much romance than gay, jaal and reyes can be romanced by both, liam is exclusively straight and gil is exclusively gay. That's 3 for straight woman and 3 for gay male, by the way woman still have the advantage because they have two squadmates as romance which are much more developed and have more screentime and even have interesting loyalty mission contrarly to the side romance like reyes. I was annoyed only female inquisitors could marry some of their lI while males couldn't
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Post by Furisco on Jun 7, 2017 0:50:58 GMT
The fact that jaal is interested in ladies does not mean he can't be interested in man, one does not negate the other. He could be a bissexual with preference for woman And in dragon age inquisition, the straight woman got twice the amount of romance straight guy had. And really why straight woman are being brought here? Its not like they lose something with this patch, jaal is still available to straight woman. And no technically straight woman have just as much romance than gay, jaal and reyes can be romanced by both, liam is exclusively straight and gil is exclusively gay. That's 3 for straight woman and 3 for gay male, by the way woman still have the advantage because they have two squadmates as romance which are much more developed and have more screentime and even have interesting loyalty mission contrarly to the side romance like reyes. I was annoyed only female inquisitors could marry some of their lI while males couldn't Ask for a patch.
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Post by Pwnstix on Jun 7, 2017 0:53:13 GMT
I'm jazzed they added an appearance customizer on board the Tempest. I figured they'd wait a while before doing that, even though it looks like it would be pretty easy to do. I'll probably keep my current Ryders' faces, but I'd like to check out the expanded CC, and it's nice that I don't have to start a new game to do so.
The fire selection mods sold by vendors look interesting. I still think it would be nice to have an actual fire selector switch, but whatever. That's probably not something they could do easily, so weapons mods with semi-auto, burst, and full auto are the next best thing. I'm assuming there are differences in accuracy, range, and stability, but I'd like to know if there are any differences in damage, too, and how exactly the rate of fire is changed. I guess I'll find out soon. That reminds me... I still hope for a better Mattock rifle some time...
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Post by turianlannister on Jun 7, 2017 0:55:33 GMT
Bunch of immature people in this thread. I know Sara can still romance Jaal and nothing has changed with that but just imagine if Dorian was turned bi or heck straight for us ladies...I don't think you all would like that now would you? It seems Liam is the only straight LI for Sara now. Woohoo... Liam, Jaal and Reyes as romances for straight Sara. 3 romances. I'm struggling to see a problem here. She's butthurt because she only wants to romance men who haven't been tainted by cock and doesn't want to share her toys with gay/bi men
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Post by malgus on Jun 7, 2017 1:01:52 GMT
Strong restrictions? hum no, in DAI women got to play with 4 diferent romance and they just have to choose one specifically once they choose a specific race, if they play an elf they romance solas, if they play human they romance cullen, if they play dwarf or qunari they romance blackwall or iron bull. Its not that "restrictive" they get to experince the 4 races while having a different romance each time. I never said there is only bi with preference, I just say it is possible and that jaal might be one.Now for jaal, how does it's characterization is less deep now that he is bissexual, how does it remove anything from him. Its not like gil who has a whole plot with raising child considering his sexuality, same for Dorian who was nearly brainwash for his homosexuality to be reversed. On those characters, yes the sexuality plays an important role in their actual story and back story. But for jaal, what does he lose becoming bissexual? how does it affect negatively his relation with other companion, go ahead tell me I am curious. This is EXACTLY what you said: "The fact that jaal is interested in ladies does not mean he can't be interested in man, one does not negate the other. He could be a bissexual with preference for woman" You have a character that talks only about women (including his past love), flirts only with women, discussed by women (regarding his sexuality) and even was advertised as a straight ("he is a lady killer") - yet, for you all of these are not the evidence of character being straight. If this is not a clear statement "there are no straight people out there" - then I do not know what is. May be you can give your definition of a "clearly straight character"? I just do not see what else writers have to do to convince you. My point is, they changed existing character. On demand of part of their gamers. It was a cheap move to begin with, and it was done at expense of another part of their audience they care the least - straight women. Ask gay community why do they want so badly gay options and not satisfied with bi characters. Guess what? Straight women do want straight options as well. And they had it. Until now. I never said that, I only said that we could not have any exact conclusion on his sexuality because he never said that he was not attracted to man, just that he was attracted to woman, which did not mean he could not be attracted to man, , the fact that a man have attraction for woman does not negate bissexuality or bissexuality with preference. that is the only thing I said If in the game he said to scott ryder, "male do not interest me", all right that would have been againt his character to change it with a patch. But the fact that his previous romance were only female does not mean he could never be attracted to a man, as I said with someone else, there is a high chance he is discovering his bissexuality with scott ryder. According to the wiki, jaal is only 27 years old : masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Jaal_Ama_DaravSome bissexual people discover their bissexuality later in their life, it could totally be the case for jaal. the fact that he is said to be a lady killer (Where did you saw that exactly? which trailer or tweet from developer said that? I want a proof of what you are saying at this moment), and being a lady killer does not mean he can never be attracted to a man, as I said he could be discovering his bissexuality at this very moment, having tons of previous experience with female does not prevent developing an attraction to a specific male. And If you have problem with bi romance, and you are only ok with straight male for your female character which means you want a character to be exclusive to your orientation and gender, that is your problem and ONLY yours. I am straight and I have no problem with a bissexual romance. Heck from the very beginning all of my favorite romance of any bioware game have been bissexual, liara, lelianna, merill, josephine, peebee. The fact that those character could be attracted to a female shepard, warden, hawke ,inquisitor or ryder why would it be a problem? that does not matter because they are in relationsip with the character I am playing. And that is the same for jaal right now, what does it matter that jaal become bissexual? He will be just as attracted to a sara ryder, the fact that he could be attracted to a male ryder what does it change for you? What do you lose in that? And yes straight male might have been the focus previously, but as 2014 showed for bioware, that is no more the case, sometime its the straight male in MEA, but sometime its the straight female like in DAI where they had twice more romance than any orhter sexual orientation and gender. So no I don,t see the part where your demographic is forgotten by Bioware.
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Post by Sumerian Physics on Jun 7, 2017 1:02:03 GMT
It feels uncomfortable with jaal sexuality changed LOLOLOLOL Sometimes this community is really pathetic
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Post by dazk on Jun 7, 2017 1:07:16 GMT
Origin for me is still showing 1.07 but the net says it's available now. Is it because I am in Australia?
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Post by Sumerian Physics on Jun 7, 2017 1:08:38 GMT
I sleep with both men and women and I prefer women by about 100:1. Sexuality is a spectrum. Morons
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 7, 2017 1:13:58 GMT
Let's keep it calm, please. Really nice to see requested changes for some players. I hope everyone can be pleased for those individuals, even those who do not benefit personally from the additions.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 7, 2017 1:15:19 GMT
It feels uncomfortable with jaal sexuality changed LOLOLOLOL Sometimes this community is really pathetic
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 7, 2017 1:18:33 GMT
Origin for me is still showing 1.07 but the net says it's available now. Is it because I am in Australia? It's not out yet.
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Post by Pearl on Jun 7, 2017 1:19:40 GMT
I hope everyone can be pleased for those individuals, even those who do not benefit personally from the additions. Of course, no matter how hard some of those individuals make it to be happy for them.
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 7, 2017 1:23:56 GMT
Ok what gives. I didn't think it was out but I'm reading it is. I click update and now I have to do a repair and it is still 1.07?
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 7, 2017 1:24:27 GMT
I hope everyone can be pleased for those individuals, even those who do not benefit personally from the additions. Of course, no matter how hard some of those individuals make it to be happy for them. No group should be defined by the most annoying members of their communities, whichever groups they may be...
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