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Post by dmc1001 on Oct 11, 2016 18:55:21 GMT
My main point was and remains that unlike Ashley, Kaidan does not seem to have had his appearance overhauled despite being in the same group as Ashley of returning love interests.
Note: there was actually concept art of Ashley where it looked like she had her hair in a pony tail or a braid. It's in the same picture that I linked as a source for the quote.
The main reason with Kaidan is that he had a face model. Same with the default male Shepard. So they'll remain essentially the same across all three games. Ash did not have a face model to work with or stay true to.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Oct 11, 2016 19:30:35 GMT
Why Kaidan seem to look more "muscular" and "bigger" because folks are used to see him in light armor and the only way to really see Kaidan topless was to play his girlfriend from the start. If you put BroShep in light armor, he'll look the same as Kaidan as well because they share same body mesh. Same goes with Kaidan himself in heavy armor. which I prefer, since Sentinel should be a tank spec.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Oct 11, 2016 20:51:05 GMT
Also, I said role, not rank. In the first game Ashley was infantry with a chip on her shoulder for being passed over due to family history. By the third game that has changed. This could explain her change even if that's not what the developers thought when implementing it. So you believe Ash did get dinner first? Err... I'm going to commit an act unprecedented on the internet and admit this one went over my head. Clarification, please? The main reason with Kaidan is that he had a face model. Same with the default male Shepard. So they'll remain essentially the same across all three games. Ash did not have a face model to work with or stay true to. I was pretty sure Ashley did have a face model. Apparently there is none confirmed at this time. It could be an unknown. Stranger things have happened. Like basing Zaeed on a random uncredited extra (and doing a damn good job capturing the likeness):
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Post by Iakus on Oct 11, 2016 21:01:46 GMT
So you believe Ash did get dinner first? Err... I'm going to commit an act unprecedented on the internet and admit this one went over my head. Clarification, please? A line she had in ME1: Yeah, well if you want me in a tin foil mini skirt and thigh-high boots, I'm gonna need dinner first
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Post by shechinah on Oct 11, 2016 22:15:31 GMT
Just while we're still somewhat on the subject of design decisions: Why, oh, why does EDI have a cameltoe? Yeah, I know the robot body she’s wearing is an infiltration model and might have a penile induction port to help EVE gather information in other ways but why does she have a cameltoe? Cameltoes tend to be accidents in real life but here, someone had to actually decide that EDI, EDI, should have one and then take the time to implement it. Why? Just so we’d know her body was designed to look anatomically correct? If so, shouldn't she have nipples too? Is it so we wouldn’t have to lie awake, wondering if Joker was able to get some from her? But hey, apparently Miranda had this too in Mass Effect 2 so I guess there's a precedence for it? Sorry, I needed to vent about this.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Oct 11, 2016 22:20:15 GMT
Just while we're still somewhat on the subject of design decisions: Why, oh, why does EDI have a cameltoe? Yeah, I know the robot body she’s wearing is an infiltration model and might a penile induction port for information gathering purposes but why does she have a cameltoe? Cameltoes tend to be accidents in real life but here, someone had to actually decide that EDI, EDI, should have one and then take the time to implement it. Why? Just so we’d know her body was designed to look anatomically correct? So we wouldn’t have to lie awake, wondering if Joker was able to get some from her? But hey, apparently Miranda had this too in Mass Effect 2 so I guess there's a precedence for it? Probably reused and reskinned the model. So, no one painstakingly thought EDI should have cameltoe, but they did think Miranda should. Because "perfect human specimen". Still better than Banshees though. Oh and for extra in-universe squick- the infiltration platform was designed by TIM, named after his dead girlfriend and modeled to Miranda's... specifications. Let it not be said indoctrination or human supremacy was the man's only vice...
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Post by shechinah on Oct 11, 2016 22:29:54 GMT
Probably reused and reskinned the model. So, no one painstakingly thought EDI should have cameltoe, but they did think Miranda should. Because "perfect human specimen". Still better than Banshees though. Oh and for extra in-universe squick- the infiltration platform was designed by TIM, named after his dead girlfriend and modeled to Miranda's... specifications. Let it not be said indoctrination or human supremacy was the man's only vice... I still don't see why EVE would need one. She was posing as a respectable archaologist or something on Mars: you'd think one of her collegues would have pointed it out to her so she could "adjust" herself but nope, apparently it made sense for her to have a 24 hour cameltoe going as a part of her disguise.
God, TIM had issues.
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Post by Feel Boss on Oct 11, 2016 22:42:02 GMT
Just while we're still somewhat on the subject of design decisions: Why, oh, why does EDI have a cameltoe? Yeah, I know the robot body she’s wearing is an infiltration model and might have a penile induction port to help EVE gather information in other ways but why does she have a cameltoe? Cameltoes tend to be accidents in real life but here, someone had to actually decide that EDI, EDI, should have one and then take the time to implement it. Why? Just so we’d know her body was designed to look anatomically correct? If so, shouldn't she have nipples too? Is it so we wouldn’t have to lie awake, wondering if Joker was able to get some from her? But hey, apparently Miranda had this too in Mass Effect 2 so I guess there's a precedence for it? Sorry, I needed to vent about this. I've wondered about that, myself. For it to happen, you'd think the human-like skin Eva used would be required, but EDI never used it, as far as I can remember. It makes no sense for her metal surface to have it. But it's probably there for the same reason Miranda's cameltoe was, and the same reason some of the female characters appeared to get boob-jobs between the end of ME2 and the beginning of ME3.
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Post by Lavochkin on Oct 11, 2016 23:00:49 GMT
Why Kaidan seem to look more "muscular" and "bigger" because folks are used to see him in light armor and the only way to really see Kaidan topless was to play his girlfriend from the start. If you put BroShep in light armor, he'll look the same as Kaidan as well because they share same body mesh. Same goes with Kaidan himself in heavy armor. which I prefer, since Sentinel should be a tank spec. Oh how I missed the colossus armor in the sequels for my femshep.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 12, 2016 3:12:43 GMT
Why Kaidan seem to look more "muscular" and "bigger" because folks are used to see him in light armor and the only way to really see Kaidan topless was to play his girlfriend from the start. If you put BroShep in light armor, he'll look the same as Kaidan as well because they share same body mesh. Same goes with Kaidan himself in heavy armor. which I prefer, since Sentinel should be a tank spec. Oh how I missed the colossus armor in the sequels for my femshep. You mean the fetish wear?
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Post by Lavochkin on Oct 12, 2016 3:14:28 GMT
Oh how I missed the colossus armor in the sequels for my femshep. You mean the fetish wear? The very one, there exists no other armor in that game whenever i had it.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Oct 12, 2016 5:23:44 GMT
I'm pretty sure Ashley is based on a real person and she look fine with minimal makeup. but later they gave her a costume that amplify her generous bosom, makeup that amplify her generous pale glossy lips, contoured narrow nose, pink flush cheeks, heavy and glossy smokey eyes, flat-ironed straight hair and basically a 'Kardashian' makeover. The changes in her looks isn't created with the idea that she is a character who dedicated her life into the military, it was to make her look "sexually appealing", which effectively translate into Ashley being turned into a guy's dream blowout doll. As if it wasn't enough, the writer himself have trouble juggling between two characters and decide it was easier for ME3 Ashley to have similar arc with Miranda. ME3 Kaidan is appealing to me but it wasn't due to his new look. He wasn't created with the idea that he should be more sexually attractive to ME3 Shepard. As a combat biotic wearing heavy armor, why wouldn't he have more muscular frame? He have more grey and more wrinkles than he used to but he's always been older than Shepard. Its just a testament of how much time passed for him in between the games. But even majority of female characters in the game aren't allowed to age and must always look youthful and slender. In the novel, Drew Karpyshyn breathlessly explain that all female look like they're in their 20s because age-defying technology to explain why Kahlee Sanders are still sexually attractive even if she is a middle age woman. Chakwas have grey hair and wrinkles but she have the body of a teenage girl. Asari merely grew cupsizes as they grew older. Miranda's genetic modification meant she age slower even if she's much older than Kaidan. As if anti-ageing technology only applies to women but not men.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 13:13:54 GMT
I'm pretty sure Ashley is based on a real person and she look fine with minimal makeup. but later they gave her a costume that amplify her generous bosom, makeup that amplify her generous pale glossy lips, contoured narrow nose, pink flush cheeks, heavy and glossy smokey eyes, flat-ironed straight hair and basically a 'Kardashian' makeover. The changes in her looks isn't created with the idea that she is a character who dedicated her life into the military, it was to make her look "sexually appealing", which effectively translate into Ashley being turned into a guy's dream blowout doll. As if it wasn't enough, the writer himself have trouble juggling between two characters and decide it was easier for ME3 Ashley to have similar arc with Miranda. ME3 Kaidan is appealing to me but it wasn't due to his new look. He wasn't created with the idea that he should be more sexually attractive to ME3 Shepard. As a combat biotic wearing heavy armor, why wouldn't he have more muscular frame? He have more grey and more wrinkles than he used to but he's always been older than Shepard. Its just a testament of how much time passed for him in between the games. But even majority of female characters in the game aren't allowed to age and must always look youthful and slender. In the novel, Drew Karpyshyn breathlessly explain that all female look like they're in their 20s because age-defying technology to explain why Kahlee Sanders are still sexually attractive even if she is a middle age woman. Chakwas have grey hair and wrinkles but she have the body of a teenage girl. Asari merely grew cupsizes as they grew older. Miranda's genetic modification meant she age slower even if she's much older than Kaidan. As if anti-ageing technology only applies to women but not men. Kaidan was born in 2152 and Miranda was "created" in 2150 (per ME3 codex). I don't think that really qualifies as being "much older" - at least not enough older that Miranda couldn't look younger than Kaidan simply using methods readily available to women today - i.e. ordinary makeup and perhaps hair dye. The difference between Kaidan and Shepard is also only 2 years and they could easily have looked thee same age even today. Kaidan was aged in order to enhance his "sex appeal" as well... on the rather gross presumption than women find older, more distinguished looking men more attractive. Jacob was introduced looking older than Ashley and even looks older than default BroShep in ME2, even though he is only one year older than Ashley and 3 years younger than Shepard. In addition, Hackett and Anderson are only supposed to be 3 years apart in age, yet they look like there is at least a decade between them. Add in the premise they inserted that humans live longer overall (to about 150 if they're lucky), and Hackett looks far far older than the 52 years he's given in the ME3 codex. (in fact, I double checking now to see if I've misread the codex - nope, no such luck... it clearly states that Hackett was born to a single mother in Buenos Aires in 2134.) In other words - Drew K. was an idiot in this respect... or, more likely, they just didn't pay any attention to the relative ages they were giving their characters. Birthdates of Mass Effect Characters given in the ME3 Codex: Tali 2161 Ashley 2158 Jacob 2157 Shepard 2154 Kaidan 2152 Miranda 2150 Anderson 2137 Hackett 2134 Liara 2077
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Oct 12, 2016 15:22:01 GMT
I'm pretty sure Ashley is based on a real person and she look fine with minimal makeup. but later they gave her a costume that amplify her generous bosom, makeup that amplify her generous pale glossy lips, contoured narrow nose, pink flush cheeks, heavy and glossy smokey eyes, flat-ironed straight hair and basically a 'Kardashian' makeover. The changes in her looks isn't created with the idea that she is a character who dedicated her life into the military, it was to make her look "sexually appealing", which effectively translate into Ashley being turned into a guy's dream blowout doll. As if it wasn't enough, the writer himself have trouble juggling between two characters and decide it was easier for ME3 Ashley to have similar arc with Miranda. ME3 Kaidan is appealing to me but it wasn't due to his new look. He wasn't created with the idea that he should be more sexually attractive to ME3 Shepard. As a combat biotic wearing heavy armor, why wouldn't he have more muscular frame? He have more grey and more wrinkles than he used to but he's always been older than Shepard. Its just a testament of how much time passed for him in between the games. But even majority of female characters in the game aren't allowed to age and must always look youthful and slender. In the novel, Drew Karpyshyn breathlessly explain that all female look like they're in their 20s because age-defying technology to explain why Kahlee Sanders are still sexually attractive even if she is a middle age woman. Chakwas have grey hair and wrinkles but she have the body of a teenage girl. Asari merely grew cupsizes as they grew older. Miranda's genetic modification meant she age slower even if she's much older than Kaidan. As if anti-ageing technology only applies to women but not men. I feel the need to point out you enjoy the more mature look the more muscular features of Kaiden. Generally features considered attractive by a large portion of females. Yet at the same time complain when the females get a similar treatment to make them more considered attractive by the larger portion of male population. As well as given the attitude and personality of each female character they are shown to be extremely bad ass and independent. Which comes across as strong female characters can't be attractive. They have to be plain and frumpy looking to fit every stereotype movies have ever created were attractive ones are generally stupid or self centered and the more plain looking women are the ones who are over all better people who actually can do things. They are going to pander to groups and while not necessarily completely true men make up a significant portion of video game players. As well game companies like EA are set in their mind that men are the super majority of video game buyers and players. Hell even Cortana the AI from Halo had her bust size increase from a B to a DD. But each of them personality wise are not damsels in distress incapable of doing anything unless a man helps them.
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Post by dmc1001 on Oct 12, 2016 15:52:40 GMT
Buffy the Vampire Slayer! Pretty girl who kicks butt. It worked for her and it can work for Ashley.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 16:42:06 GMT
Does that mean that I actually have an unpopular opinion? Because as I am starting to replay the Trilogy I find all the joinable female characters to be far too soft and gentle for my male Shepard to romance
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 17:21:13 GMT
Does that mean that I actually have an unpopular opinion? Because as I am starting to replay the Trilogy I find all the joinable female characters to be far too soft and gentle for my male Shepard to romance I agree... ME1 doesn't really have a "bad ass" female character. Ashley can be interpreted to be somewhat bad ass, bigoted and harsh... but her talks about family and poetry do quite a bit to undermine that impression of her. Depends on what details of your conversations with her you want to focus on... i.e. you can just avoid selecting options to deeply investigate her family and such to make her seem tougher or select some renegade options while discussing these things. It can be done without forfeiting the option to romance her... just be careful not to select lines that make her overtly angry or that imply things like "just do your duty."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 17:26:40 GMT
Does that mean that I actually have an unpopular opinion? Because as I am starting to replay the Trilogy I find all the joinable female characters to be far too soft and gentle for my male Shepard to romance I agree... ME1 doesn't really have a "bad ass" female character. Ashley can be interpreted to be somewhat bad ass, bigoted and harsh... but her talks about family and poetry do quite a bit to undermine that impression of her. Depends on what details of your conversations with her you want to focus on... i.e. you can just avoid selecting options to deeply investigate her family and such to make her seem tougher or select some renegade options while discussing these things. It can be done without forfeiting the option to romance her... just be careful not to select lines that make her overtly angry or that imply things like "just do your duty." No, I won't be romancing Ashley, I don't like her that way, you know, digitally, but thank you for the advice anyway. This is not really on topic though. Heh, I will try to dig a little deeper and try a little harder to find if I am capable of unpopular opinion. But I am a sucker for this game at the moment, and love everything. I can't help it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 17:40:37 GMT
I agree... ME1 doesn't really have a "bad ass" female character. Ashley can be interpreted to be somewhat bad ass, bigoted and harsh... but h.er talks about family and poetry do quite a bit to undermine that impression of her. Depends on what details of your conversations with her you want to focus on... i.e. you can just avoid selecting options to deeply investigate her family and such to make her seem tougher or select some renegade options while discussing these things. It can be done without forfeiting the option to romance her... just be careful not to select lines that make her overtly angry or that imply things like "just do your duty." No, I won't be romancing Ashley, I don't like her that way, you know, digitally, but thank you for the advice anyway. This is not really on topic though. Heh, I will try to dig a little deeper and try a little harder to find if I am capable of unpopular opinion. But I am a sucker for this game at the moment, and love everything. I can't help it. Sometimes I feel that liking this game around here is the most unpopular opinion of all. (So, you and I both have that one to our "credit.")
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Post by aoibhealfae on Oct 12, 2016 18:36:25 GMT
Kaidan was born in 2152 and Miranda was "created" in 2150 (per ME3 codex). I don't think that really qualifies as being "much older" - at least not enough older that Miranda couldn't look younger than Kaidan simply using methods readily available to women today - i.e. ordinary makeup and perhaps hair dye. The difference between Kaidan and Shepard is also only 2 years and they could easily have looked thee same age even today. Kaidan was aged in order to enhance his "sex appeal" as well... on the rather gross presumption than women find older, more distinguished looking men more attractive. Jacob was introduced looking older than Ashley and even looks older than default BroShep in ME2, even though he is only one year older than Ashley and 3 years younger than Shepard. In addition, Hackett and Anderson are only supposed to be 3 years apart in age, yet they look like there is at least a decade between them. Add in the premise they inserted that humans live longer overall (to about 150 if they're lucky), and Hackett looks far far older than the 52 years he's given in the ME3 codex. (in fact, I double checking now to see if I've misread the codex - nope, no such luck... it clearly states that Hackett was born to a single mother in Buenos Aires in 2134.) I feel the need to point out you enjoy the more mature look the more muscular features of Kaiden. Generally features considered attractive by a large portion of females. Kaidan don't suddenly 'age' from ME1 to ME3 to make him sexually appealing. This is vanilla Kaidan, Even jaundiced, he's always the same wrinkly with graying hair Kaidan. And I've said it earlier, Kaidan didn't 'grew muscular'. In the entire trilogy, he shared the exact same body with male human characters including BroShep. Nobody botox-ed him or paint him with gloss to make him sexually appealing. English is already my second language but.... huh? So you think I was against Ashley's 'beautification' because I want a badass strong female character to keep on looking plain and frumpy? plain... frumpy.. plain... frumpy.. Attractive... ..... because there's no such thing as makeup remover in the future, or hair that don't stick on glossy lips.... or military regulations on makeup
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Post by Darth Dennis on Oct 12, 2016 18:40:49 GMT
I agree... ME1 doesn't really have a "bad ass" female character. Ashley can be interpreted to be somewhat bad ass, bigoted and harsh... but her talks about family and poetry do quite a bit to undermine that impression of her. Just because she can drill you between your eyes at a hundred meters, doesn't mean she can't like sensitive stuff.
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Kaidan was born in 2152 and Miranda was "created" in 2150 (per ME3 codex). I don't think that really qualifies as being "much older" - at least not enough older that Miranda couldn't look younger than Kaidan simply using methods readily available to women today - i.e. ordinary makeup and perhaps hair dye. The difference between Kaidan and Shepard is also only 2 years and they could easily have looked thee same age even today. Kaidan was aged in order to enhance his "sex appeal" as well... on the rather gross presumption than women find older, more distinguished looking men more attractive. Jacob was introduced looking older than Ashley and even looks older than default BroShep in ME2, even though he is only one year older than Ashley and 3 years younger than Shepard. In addition, Hackett and Anderson are only supposed to be 3 years apart in age, yet they look like there is at least a decade between them. Add in the premise they inserted that humans live longer overall (to about 150 if they're lucky), and Hackett looks far far older than the 52 years he's given in the ME3 codex. (in fact, I double checking now to see if I've misread the codex - nope, no such luck... it clearly states that Hackett was born to a single mother in Buenos Aires in 2134.) I feel the need to point out you enjoy the more mature look the more muscular features of Kaiden. Generally features considered attractive by a large portion of females. Kaidan don't suddenly 'age' from ME1 to ME3 to make him sexually appealing. This is vanilla Kaidan, Even jaundiced, he's always the same wrinkly with graying hair Kaidan. And I've said it earlier, Kaidan didn't 'grew muscular'. In the entire trilogy, he shared the exact same body with male human characters including BroShep. Nobody botox-ed him or paint him with gloss to make him sexually appealing. English is already my second language but.... huh? So you think I was against Ashley's 'beautification' because I want a badass strong female character to keep on looking plain and frumpy? plain... frumpy.. plain... frumpy.. Attractive... ..... because there's no such thing as makeup remover in the future, or hair that don't stick on glossy lips.... Kaidan has significantly more gray in ME3 than ME1 and default Shepard (who is older) has none. The cleft in his chin was deepened between ME1 and ME3, giving him more of a Clint Walker sort of appeal. Sorry about the age of the actor I'm comparing it too... it reflects my own age; but back in my day, a strong cleft chin was considered to be a very sexy trait in a male - made such by the actors that had them - Kirk Douglas, Robert Mitchum. Paul Newman to name a few more. The rendering of skin had improved quite a lot between the two games... which helped both genders appear to be more attractive. The arms on both Shepard and Kaidan are made more muscular between ME1 and ME2/3 and individual muscle groups are more defined. If you don't believe me, just look at the bit of bicep that shows just below the t-shirt sleeve in each game. Just because Kaidan uses the same body mesh as Shepard doesn't mean that mesh wasn't changed between the two games to make it more attractive (by making it more "sculpted"). The addition of James with his overkill body build is pure gratuitous eye candy for women players... and if putting in a vid of Jacob doing sit-ups in ME2 and having both James and Shepard doing chip ups in ME3 isn't about the same level as focusing on Miranda's butt... I don't know what is. As for a woman's choice in makeup - is that not a free personal choice? or are there regs against lip gloss in the military that I'm not aware of?
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Post by themikefest on Oct 12, 2016 20:22:52 GMT
I like Ashley because she kills the krogan for me on Virmire. excellent
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Post by aoibhealfae on Oct 12, 2016 21:00:29 GMT
Kaidan has significantly more gray in ME3 than ME1 and default Shepard (who is older) has none. The cleft in his chin was deepened between ME1 and ME3, giving him more of a Clint Walker sort of appeal. Sorry about the age of the actor I'm comparing it too... it reflects my own age; but back in my day, a strong cleft chin was considered to be a very sexy trait in a male. The rendering of skin had improved quite a lot between the two games... which helped both genders appear to be more attractive. Shepard got burned to crisp in 2183 and with the exception of the brain, Shepard is just as engineered as Miranda. Neither physically age normally. Kaidan didn't get Cerberus plastic surgeons to keep him look young. More than three years have passed between ME1 and ME3. Kaidan get severe migraines from his L2 implant, he suffered a lot of loss and stress. He watched his ship blew up, a lot of his friends were killed, his beloved girlfriend were killed (optional), he watched Reapers bulldoze Vancouver and possible his friends and family too, his father was killed, he left his mother alone on Earth where reapers full-on harvesting mode... and apparently he's sexually objectified because older men with saggy balls are sexually attractive to female gaming audience.. ... .... .. ... no So you're saying Bioware intentionally make male body more muscular and biceps more bigger and more defined to make male characters appealing to women... If all these effort to appease female demographic with sexy muscular men, why FemShep have more lesbian options than she does with straight options. Why Thane run toward a sword for a quick death? Why Jacob have a baby with another woman? Why there's only two true-romance choices for a straight female player which is Kaidan and Garrus. Why Citadel hookup was treated like a joke? Why FemShep get two when BroShep have more than three woman to sleep with in each game? (Sha'ira, Liara and Ashley / Miranda, Jack, Tali and Kelly / Liara, Ashley, Miranda, Jack, Tali and Allers) This is not a personal choice made by a woman, its the personal choice by a group of men called Bioware's Character Artist team. I don't make that one up. Their priority was to make a woman look appealing to men than for her to look like a person herself. Military woman don't go to work looking like they want to party during the day.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 21:30:49 GMT
Kaidan has significantly more gray in ME3 than ME1 and default Shepard (who is older) has none. The cleft in his chin was deepened between ME1 and ME3, giving him more of a Clint Walker sort of appeal. Sorry about the age of the actor I'm comparing it too... it reflects my own age; but back in my day, a strong cleft chin was considered to be a very sexy trait in a male. The rendering of skin had improved quite a lot between the two games... which helped both genders appear to be more attractive. Shepard got burned to crisp in 2183 and with the exception of the brain, Shepard is just as engineered as Miranda. Neither physically age normally. Kaidan didn't get Cerberus plastic surgeons to keep him look young. More than three years have passed between ME1 and ME3. Kaidan get severe migraines from his L2 implant, he suffered a lot of loss and stress. He watched his ship blew up, a lot of his friends were killed, his beloved girlfriend were killed (optional), he watched Reapers bulldoze Vancouver and possible his friends and family too, his father was killed, he left his mother alone on Earth where reapers full-on harvesting mode... and apparently he's sexually objectified because older men with saggy balls are sexually attractive to female gaming audience.. ... .... .. ... no So you're saying Bioware intentionally make male body more muscular and biceps more bigger and more defined to make male characters appealing to women... If all these effort to appease female demographic with sexy muscular men, why FemShep have more lesbian options than she does with straight options. Why Thane run toward a sword for a quick death? Why Jacob have a baby with another woman? Why there's only two true-romance choices for a straight female player which is Kaidan and Garrus. Why Citadel hookup was treated like a joke? Why FemShep get two when BroShep have more than three woman to sleep with in each game? (Sha'ira, Liara and Ashley / Miranda, Jack, Tali and Kelly / Liara, Ashley, Miranda, Jack, Tali and Allers) This is not a personal choice made by a woman, its the personal choice by a group of men called Bioware's Character Artist team. I don't make that one up. Their priority was to make a woman look appealing to men than for her to look like a person herself. Military woman don't go to work looking like they want to party during the day. I'm saying they "sex'd" up the male characters as well... the muscle definition in the arms says it all. Also, please cite the in-game source for Shepard not aging at all while being rebuilt by Cerberus. Living cells age... that's basic biology. Shepard was not completely dead for the entire two years. The graphics clearly show him being revived in stages... thawed and the red blood cells starting to flow again, etc. As for makeup being worn by military women, checck out this video... and try to tell me she's not wearing lip gloss in uniform. Colors have to be conservative - natural, not blue or green etc. but there is no regulation against wearing a "glossy" variety of lipstick and certainly no regulation against wearing lipstick. Some female soldiers like to feel more feminine in spite of the uniform and others don't care... It's a personal choice... just like it's a personal choice of some players to give their FemSheps dark black lips or unnatural hair colors (not allowed in the military) or mod the game to give their FemSheps flowing hair. Finally, your quote does not say that their priority was to make a woman look appealing to men... It says it was a challenge to make female characters who might best fit the various different ideas that people (both male and female people) have of what a beautiful woman looks like. It also does not say that they did not care about making the male characters appealing as well... it just says that it generally takes less effort for them to create appealing male characters than it does female character.
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