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Post by Garo on Sept 12, 2016 23:19:37 GMT
I saw this thread on main BSN and I think it's a lot of fun to see all those opinions that may not be too popular. What are your opinions about Mass Effect in general, which are not likely shared by whole fanbase? For example, maybe you find ME3 ending to be a masterpiece ? Maybe you think Krogans are bunch of pussies? Maybe you think Asari should be redesigned in the same vein as Dragon Age's elves? Share your thoughts here! I will start: - I think Mako was way better to steer than HammerHead ever was - I think first Mass Effect had the best biotics - I enjoy ME1 gunplay more than the one in ME2 - I think Meer was better voice for Shep than Hale - I really like Ashley - I think Kasumi is the best squad member in ME2 - I don't think Garrus was the best thing that ever happened to Mass Effect - I like Thessia mission - I don't mind Kai Leng - I think TIM indoctrination kind of makes sense if you read the comic - I think that Kaidan should remain straight - I think with all DLCs ME3 is the best game in the trilogy Ufff, it's like confessing sins. Your turn
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 23:28:32 GMT
i don't really care all that much for garrus. and everyone being like OMG NO ONE CAN EVER HATE GARRUS, makes my distaste for him grow,as petty as that is.
though i do wonder why you think kaidan shouldn't have been bi.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 12, 2016 23:46:10 GMT
- Kai Leng should've killed Liara on Thessia instead of throwing her across the screen like a sack of potatoes - Shepard should've had the option to throw the former hologram turned platform out the airlock - Joker should've been thrown in the rubber room for saying there's no regulation against dating the ships ai - Garrus adds nothing to ME3 and should never of been a squadmate - Liara should've been sent to Hackett after Mars - Ashley is the best when it comes to using a sniper rifle - there should've been an option to push Garrus into the water - peace should've been achievable without having Legion and Tali in ME3 - loyalty missions should never of meant life or death for squadmates - Shepard should've been able to survive ME2 if all squadmates died - I prefer Wreav over Wrex - I never liked the touchy-feely scene between Anderson and Shepard on the Citadel - Harbinger is one of the best characters in ME. ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL. excellent - Rupert Gardner is the best cook in the universe - Jacob and Brynn should've been squadmates in ME3 - Harbinger should've fired on the Normandy during the what-the-crap evac scene - I don't mind letting the council die in ME1 - there should of been an option for Shepard to say that's for not killing that stupid asari on Thessia you SOB when stabbing him
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Post by aoibhealfae on Sept 13, 2016 10:37:36 GMT
I remember liking Garrus the first few years I play the game but yes, the "OMG WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU THAT YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ABOUT HIM" brigade This is what I love about the game. When I'm bored, its fun to discuss random characters. their motivations, personality, analyse their writing and dialogues, narrative and identify their complexities. But when I try to expand his narrative further and discover dialogues and content that didn't make sense and contradictory and sometimes offensive that I don't personally agree with including his personal views on certain races or his style of 'justice' ( very real life equivalent btw) and how dangerous romanticizing aspects of this even in fiction... ....somehow its always a personal attack... on their taste in men......
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Post by straykat on Sept 13, 2016 11:16:18 GMT
I prefer killing Shiala. That's probably not popular.
It's kind of funny that, say, if you don't do all the sidequests on Feros, and let her live, then the Colony is successful (except with her weird Asari mindmelding). But if you do the sidequests and kill her, it's fine too. That's kind of subtle, but neat roleplaying there. I prefer the latter, where humans find their own way in the universe through work and simple effort.. instead of "embracing eternity".
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 11:26:11 GMT
- Curing the Genophage is absolute insanity. - Thane sucks. ME3 is better without him. In fact all drell suck. - I can't figure out why everyone loves Samara so much. I like her, but I don't get the adoration some ppl have. Maybe it's the boobs. - Allers isn't that bad * runs and hides*
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Post by straykat on Sept 13, 2016 11:32:02 GMT
- Curing the Genophage is absolute insanity. - Thane sucks. ME3 is better without him. In fact all drell suck. - I can't figure out why everyone loves Samara so much. I like her, but I don't get the adoration some ppl have. Maybe it's the boobs. - Allers isn't that bad * runs and hides* lol.. you gotta explain the Thane one please. What'd he ever do?
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Post by RedCaesar97 on Sept 13, 2016 11:33:29 GMT
Priority: Earth is not bad, overall.
Diana Allers is not a bad character.
The ending to Mass Effect 3 is actually a good ending (NOTE: but I still do not think it is a good end to the trilogy)
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Post by Pounce de León on Sept 13, 2016 12:33:12 GMT
Thane and Drell story - I don't like this pseudo-sentimental stuff. Doesn't match with the assassin jobs either - makes no sense to me. Rot on Kepral syndrome already!
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Post by fraggle on Sept 13, 2016 12:40:52 GMT
- I love ME3 in its entirety, including the ending (from Priority Earth on) and consider it one of the best out of all videogames I've played so far, I dig that it's so open and Shepard's fate is vague and up to the player - I dislike Arrival and Omega DLC because I can't have my squadmates with me - My favourite characters are the "boring humans" James and Kaidan - ME2 roster was way too big for me - I love the sound the Reapers make - I don't care much for Wrex or Grunt, or krogan in general (I like Eve though) - I also don't mind Kai Leng
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Post by Robo on Sept 13, 2016 13:04:39 GMT
- Kai Leng should've killed Liara on Thessia instead of throwing her across the screen like a sack of potatoes - Shepard should've had the option to throw the former hologram turned platform out the airlock - Joker should've been thrown in the rubber room for saying there's no regulation against dating the ships ai - Garrus adds nothing to ME3 and should never of been a squadmate - Liara should've been sent to Hackett after Mars - Ashley is the best when it comes to using a sniper rifle - there should've been an option to push Garrus into the water - peace should've been achievable without having Legion and Tali in ME3 - loyalty missions should never of meant life or death for squadmates - Shepard should've been able to survive ME2 if all squadmates died - I prefer Wreav over Wrex - I never liked the touchy-feely scene between Anderson and Shepard on the Citadel - Harbinger is one of the best characters in ME. ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL. excellent - Rupert Gardner is the best cook in the universe - Jacob and Brynn should've been squadmates in ME3 - Harbinger should've fired on the Normandy during the what-the-crap evac scene - I don't mind letting the council die in ME1 - there should of been an option for Shepard to say that's for not killing that stupid asari on Thessia you SOB when stabbing him I'm sure I'll post more What. The. Fuck.
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Post by straykat on Sept 13, 2016 13:08:03 GMT
I'd think letting the Council die would be middle of the road. Don't tell me otherwise. That's weak.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 13:11:55 GMT
Apparently all of my opinions are unpopular here.
1. Mark Meer did a better job of voicing Shepard throughout the entire Trilogy. Jennifer Hale generally overacted the role. Meer's more deadpan voicing makes for more versatile roleplaying.
2. Romance-able characters for FemShep all generally suck (especially Thane). Although the scenario in ME3 where she can lose both her previous romances in a single day is intriguing, it's not followed through very well.
3. There are as many actual dialogue choices in ME3 as in ME1. I prefer the autodialogue in ME3... which just eliminates the annoyance of ME1 where the player has to press a button in order to "select" the same line regardless of which position on the dialogue wheel it is selected from. If I'm going to have to press a button to make a choice, I want the resulting dialogue to be different with every choice I make.
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Post by straykat on Sept 13, 2016 13:14:51 GMT
Apparently all of my opinions are unpopular here. 1. Mark Meer did a better job of voicing Shepard throughout the entire Trilogy. Jennifer Hale generally overacted the role. Meer's more deadpan voicing makes for more versatile roleplaying. 2. Romance-able characters for FemShep all generally suck (especially Thane). Although the scenario in ME3 where she can lose both her previous romances in a single day is intriguing, it's not followed through very well. 3. There are as many actual dialogue choices in ME3 as in ME1. I prefer the autodialogue in ME3... which just eliminates the annoyance of ME1 where the player has to press a button in order to "select" the same line regardless of which position on the dialogue wheel it is selected from. If I'm going to have to press a button to make a choice, I want the resulting dialogue to be different with every choice I make. I'll agree there.. but that's where ME2 excelled over both.
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Post by Ieldra on Sept 13, 2016 13:16:15 GMT
- Curing the Genophage is absolute insanity. +1 here's another one: Garrus and Liara are the least interesting companions in ME2 and ME3.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 13:34:39 GMT
- Curing the Genophage is absolute insanity. I think that is actually a very popular opinion here; whereas curing the genophage is the vastly unpopular choice. My very unpopular opinion on the matter is that people get overly worked up about the role-playing choices other people make. The moral dilemmas in the game have been set up in such a way that a reasoned choice can be made in either direction; therefore, neither choice is arbitrarily "insane." I just don't see the point of people demanding more "choices" in a RPG game if, when given one, they insist on deriding anyone who makes a different choice from them as being "insane: for doing so.
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Post by our_lady_of_darkness on Sept 13, 2016 13:35:16 GMT
- Thane sucks. ME3 is better without him. In fact all drell suck. - I can't figure out why everyone loves Samara so much. I like her, but I don't get the adoration some ppl have. Maybe it's the boobs. Gods, yes, can't stand Thane either, pretentious emo-assassin, blah. And it's such a pity Morinth was left largely undeveloped - she'd make a really fascinating character, a genuine villain. I also have no problem with ME3 endings. Vega, Kaidan and Javik are basically non-existent in my playthroughs, don't find them interesting at all.
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Post by straykat on Sept 13, 2016 13:37:29 GMT
- Curing the Genophage is absolute insanity. I think that is actually a very popular opinion here; whereas curing the genophage is the vastly unpopular choice. My very unpopular opinion on the matter is that people get overly worked up about the role-playing choices other people make. The moral dilemmas in the game have been set up in such a way that a reasoned choice can be made in either direction; therefore, neither choice is arbitrarily "insane." Not curing it is the less popular choice. There were Bioware infographics on it. It was kind of funny. cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/1d9834b481837372312a33b0ba1124a1-650-80.jpgOnly 8% didn't cure the Genophage. But here's the kicker. 64% never even had Wrex.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 13:39:30 GMT
- Curing the Genophage is absolute insanity. - Thane sucks. ME3 is better without him. In fact all drell suck. <snip> lol.. you gotta explain the Thane one please. What'd he ever do? He feels so damn sorry for himself ALL THE TIME. Dude never shuts up about it, yet Kasumi just lost the love of her life and you don't see her moping all the time. The way they do the memories thing is creepy and self-absorbed....I could have the entire ME series without the drell and I wouldn't miss them a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 13:40:22 GMT
Apparently all of my opinions are unpopular here. 1. Mark Meer did a better job of voicing Shepard throughout the entire Trilogy. Jennifer Hale generally overacted the role. Meer's more deadpan voicing makes for more versatile roleplaying. Okay. You're dead to me now.
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Post by straykat on Sept 13, 2016 13:42:56 GMT
lol.. you gotta explain the Thane one please. What'd he ever do? He feels so damn sorry for himself ALL THE TIME. Dude never shuts up about it, yet Kasumi just lost the love of her life and you don't see her moping all the time. The way they do the memories thing is creepy and self-absorbed....I could have the entire ME series without the drell and I wouldn't miss them a bit. Fair enough. Although I think Kasumi just hides her grief better. She'd just as easily rather retreat into her fantasies, if you let her save the Greybox data. She wants to ride out the whole Reaper invasion with Fake Keiji.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 13:47:58 GMT
I think that is actually a very popular opinion here; whereas curing the genophage is the vastly unpopular choice. My very unpopular opinion on the matter is that people get overly worked up about the role-playing choices other people make. The moral dilemmas in the game have been set up in such a way that a reasoned choice can be made in either direction; therefore, neither choice is arbitrarily "insane." Not curing it is the less popular choice. There were Bioware infographics on it. It was kind of funny. cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/1d9834b481837372312a33b0ba1124a1-650-80.jpgOnly 8% didn't cure the Genophage. But here's the kicker. 64% never even had Wrex. I should have perhaps made that clearer... "here on BSN." Regardless of the overall ratio... of the people discussing it here on BSN, it is generally the ones who argue in favor of curing the genophage who get labelled as being "insane" for doing so. Perhaps people who argue for not curing it are just more emotionally involved in their decision and, as a result, a little more "defensive" about it. That people get too emotionally invested in the whole thing is my unpopular opinion.
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Post by TopTrog on Sept 13, 2016 13:48:54 GMT
Tela Vasir was the best antagonist in the game, because she was the only one to really challenge the player´s self-image of having the overall high ground in justifying the consequences of our choices. I do disagree with her actions, but she essentially owned Shepard in that last dialogue.
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Post by straykat on Sept 13, 2016 13:51:34 GMT
I should have perhaps made that clearer... "here on BSN." Regardless of the overall ratio... of the people discussing it here on BSN, it is generally the ones who argue in favor of curing the genophage who get labelled as being "insane" for doing so. I'm of the mind that everyone will think this, if they just wait long enough. lol I only support it because it's written better. But I won't mistake that as an actual good thing. Just good on a literary level. It is insane otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 13:51:43 GMT
Apparently all of my opinions are unpopular here. 1. Mark Meer did a better job of voicing Shepard throughout the entire Trilogy. Jennifer Hale generally overacted the role. Meer's more deadpan voicing makes for more versatile roleplaying. Okay. You're dead to me now. In 90% of the my playthroughs, Shepard dies... so I guess that's fair. In the other 10%, he/she becomes immortal.
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