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Post by Hexxagone on Jun 10, 2017 19:51:06 GMT
I like alot of people expected this to be a new trilogy, not Mass Effect 4. I was hoping the only returning races would be Humans, Turians and Asari. We would get a bunch of new races, see different cities etc. When I found out the Salarians would be returning, I didnt like it because they have always been boring. Then the Krogan came along to Andromeda and I thought WTF?
Then I got to the ending and found out that the Quarians, Hanar and Drell are coming and now I seriously doubt Im gonna buy anymore Mass Effect games. Just more of the same. Dragon Age makes sense as people are stuck on one continent but for a space game that GOES TO ANOTHER GALAXY we get 8 of the same races as before. What a load of garbage.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 10, 2017 19:53:27 GMT
Ah this argument again.
Though honestly i wish they left the Asari behind talk about boring.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jun 10, 2017 20:01:47 GMT
The plot is about expanding into other galaxies, you'll see various races taking part in that.
Love the "this race is boring" comments /s
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 10, 2017 20:04:53 GMT
The plot is about expanding into other galaxies, you'll see various races taking part in that. Love the "this race is boring" comments /s Every day a new one pops up. Talk about a new version of whack-a-mole. |
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jun 10, 2017 20:08:24 GMT
Obligatory we-only-explored-a-cluster-not-the-whole-galaxy post
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 10, 2017 20:09:30 GMT
The plot is about expanding into other galaxies, you'll see various races taking part in that. Love the "this race is boring" comments /s Not to mention all the people that have the opposite opinion as the OP and if they only moved humanity to Andromeda the would say they are abandoning everything that made Mass Effect great. It like the people that claim BioWare should have made an ending canon and everyone should have "just dealt with it" I am pretty sure they would be the first to go ballistic if BioWare picked an ending aside from the one they wanted. |
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Post by clips7 on Jun 10, 2017 20:14:52 GMT
I don't mind too much about the MW alien races coming to Andromeda. I believe it would make sense in some manner being what is going on in the MW with the Reaper threat. My issue is that Bioware could've been more creative in creating more alien races in Andromeda....the Kett and Angarian and that's it?......There should have been waaaay more alien species within Andromeda.....they was a bit lazy on that front, but maybe it fit with the narrative Bioware was trying to tell, but there still should have been more alien races within Andromeda. Maybe the next game will expand more on that feature.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 10, 2017 20:17:36 GMT
The plot is about expanding into other galaxies, you'll see various races taking part in that. Love the "this race is boring" comments /s Not to mention all the people that have the opposite opinion as the OP and if they only moved humanity to Andromeda the would say they are abandoning everything that made Mass Effect great. It like the people that claim BioWare should have made an ending canon and everyone should have "just dealt with it" I am pretty sure they would be the first to go ballistic if BioWare picked an ending aside from the one they wanted. |
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 10, 2017 20:19:33 GMT
I think i tfit the narrative because we only stayed in the one cluster but I can see why people feel like this although personally I'm happy with it.
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Post by ProbeAway on Jun 10, 2017 20:23:58 GMT
It's a multi-species colonisation initiative that Bioware concocted to basically just shift Mass Effect to another galaxy and avoid the OT endings. Not really sure what you were expecting.
BTW Salarians (who were chronically underrepresented in the OT) are a Council race, and the most intelligent one at that. Why would Asari and Turians come but Salarians be left behind?
Seems to me like you're just blaming Bioware for not conforming to your unjustified assumptions.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 10, 2017 20:26:37 GMT
I like alot of people expected this to be a new trilogy, not Mass Effect 4. I was hoping the only returning races would be Humans, Turians and Asari. We would get a bunch of new races, see different cities etc. When I found out the Salarians would be returning, I didnt like it because they have always been boring. Then the Krogan came along to Andromeda and I thought WTF? Then I got to the ending and found out that the Quarians, Hanar and Drell are coming and now I seriously doubt Im gonna buy anymore Mass Effect games. Just more of the same. Dragon Age makes sense as people are stuck on one continent but for a space game that GOES TO ANOTHER GALAXY we get 8 of the same races as before. What a load of garbage.  |
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Post by majesticjazz on Jun 10, 2017 20:38:41 GMT
I like alot of people expected this to be a new trilogy, not Mass Effect 4. I was hoping the only returning races would be Humans, Turians and Asari. We would get a bunch of new races, see different cities etc. When I found out the Salarians would be returning, I didnt like it because they have always been boring. Then the Krogan came along to Andromeda and I thought WTF? Then I got to the ending and found out that the Quarians, Hanar and Drell are coming and now I seriously doubt Im gonna buy anymore Mass Effect games. Just more of the same. Dragon Age makes sense as people are stuck on one continent but for a space game that GOES TO ANOTHER GALAXY we get 8 of the same races as before. What a load of garbage. This is the same argument I made in another thread. Andromeda DOES NOT feel like a new galaxy but rather like the Milky Way in just a different location. We only have 2 Andromeda races and ultimately we will have 8 Milky Way races in Andromeda. Unlike ME1 where we were immersed into the politics, the culture, economy, and culture of the Citadel Space, in Andromeda, we get none of that. We know the Kett=Bad and the Angara=Good and nothing more. No economy, no political structure, no military structure, no culture, and no history of conflicts (Like Krogan vs Counsel species). We got none of that. This is supposed to be a new galaxy where nothing is supposed to be familiar. |
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I think this is what EA will ultimately say to the Mass Effect brand after MEA being a critical failure..... |
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 10, 2017 20:47:35 GMT
I think this is what EA will ultimately say to the Mass Effect brand after MEA being a critical failure..... Nah, companies care about money over critics. |
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 10, 2017 21:05:20 GMT
I think this is what EA will ultimately say to the Mass Effect brand after MEA being a critical failure..... Nah, companies care about money over critics. That is correct. Look at Micheal Bay dude. Look at Justin Bieber. I mean... WTF. WTF? All in all, it's a product that stumbled horribly out of the gate and the hype window has passed. Andromeda, as it's patched up and subsequent DLC (I am still confident it will happen. DA2 got some quality stuff before moving to Inquisition on Frostbite.) is becoming a pretty, polished gem. At least that's from my perspective and I've had harsher words than you. |
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Post by majesticjazz on Jun 10, 2017 21:19:28 GMT
I think this is what EA will ultimately say to the Mass Effect brand after MEA being a critical failure..... Nah, companies care about money over critics. And yet EA is very tight lipped about the financial success for MEA. Remember how two months after DAI released EA was talking about how it broke records and was the fastest selling Bioware game? Well it has been 3 months since MEA's release and yet EA has not said anything about MEA. Hell, at their recent earnings call MEA was surprisingly absent from discussion. All fingers point to MEA not being a financial flop, but probably not living up to EA's predictions for what they wanted. Also unlike the original 3 games which was a planned trilogy, MEA was always seen as a "pilot" type game where they test the waters to see if this can become something bigger. |
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 10, 2017 21:31:49 GMT
Nah, companies care about money over critics. And yet EA is very tight lipped about the financial success for MEA. Remember how two months after DAI released EA was talking about how it broke records and was the fastest selling Bioware game? Well it has been 3 months since MEA's release and yet EA has not said anything about MEA. Hell, at their recent earnings call MEA was surprisingly absent from discussion. All fingers point to MEA not being a financial flop, but probably not living up to EA's predictions for what they wanted. I don't have access to EA's books, but I'm pretty sure that number is in the black. Even if it's it in the red now, over time with DLC, it will at least vindicate the franchise. They did it with every title before hand. DA2 stumbled out of the gate and had impressive DLC. Felicia Day. Inquisition wrapped it all very nicely through DLC. ME3 gave me the beautiful goodbye kisses of Shepard through Omega and Citadel. (I would include Javik's DLC, but F*** YOU EA... that's story essential and only you scumbags would rip that out to make an extra buck on Day 1. F*** YOU!) So, I for one, am expecting DLC. If not, I'm gonna explode! |
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Post by majesticjazz on Jun 10, 2017 21:40:40 GMT
And yet EA is very tight lipped about the financial success for MEA. Remember how two months after DAI released EA was talking about how it broke records and was the fastest selling Bioware game? Well it has been 3 months since MEA's release and yet EA has not said anything about MEA. Hell, at their recent earnings call MEA was surprisingly absent from discussion. All fingers point to MEA not being a financial flop, but probably not living up to EA's predictions for what they wanted. I don't have access to EA's books, but I'm pretty sure that number is in the black. Even if it's it in the red now, over time with DLC, it will at least vindicate the franchise. They did it with every title before hand. DA2 stumbled out of the gate and had impressive DLC. Felicia Day. Inquisition wrapped it all very nicely through DLC. ME3 gave me the beautiful goodbye kisses of Shepard through Omega and Citadel. (I would include Javik's DLC, but F*** YOU EA... that's story essential and only you scumbags would rip that out to make an extra buck on Day 1. F*** YOU!) So, I for one, am expecting DLC. If not, I'm gonna explode! Actually DA2 was supposed to have more DLC than it had but due to the unpopularity of the game, the final DLC/Expansion called, "The Exhalted March" was cut and instead used many of it's themes for DAI. Theory has it that DAI was supposed to feature Hawke again and with Hawke being the marked one and thus the IQ which would have made more sense. |
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 10, 2017 21:48:02 GMT
I don't have access to EA's books, but I'm pretty sure that number is in the black. Even if it's it in the red now, over time with DLC, it will at least vindicate the franchise. They did it with every title before hand. DA2 stumbled out of the gate and had impressive DLC. Felicia Day. Inquisition wrapped it all very nicely through DLC. ME3 gave me the beautiful goodbye kisses of Shepard through Omega and Citadel. (I would include Javik's DLC, but F*** YOU EA... that's story essential and only you scumbags would rip that out to make an extra buck on Day 1. F*** YOU!) So, I for one, am expecting DLC. If not, I'm gonna explode! Actually DA2 was supposed to have more DLC than it had but due to the unpopularity of the game, the final DLC/Expansion called, "The Exhalted March" was cut and instead used many of it's themes for DAI. Theory has it that DAI was supposed to feature Hawke again and with Hawke being the marked one and thus the IQ which would have made more sense. Yeah, but you never know what scope it took to move from Unreal to Frostbite. It's beautiful like glass, but it's hard to mold. I keep hearing how difficult it was to transition from their own in-house engine and show a trailer that appeared to be Unreal4 only to move to Frostbite. |
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Post by kino on Jun 10, 2017 22:03:33 GMT
It's explained in the game why they're there. Why they're all there. Were you expecting BioWare to dump every concept, idea and character they've made over the years in ME? Seems rather illogical.
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 10, 2017 22:23:00 GMT
Nah, companies care about money over critics. And yet EA is very tight lipped about the financial success for MEA. Remember how two months after DAI released EA was talking about how it broke records and was the fastest selling Bioware game? Well it has been 3 months since MEA's release and yet EA has not said anything about MEA. Hell, at their recent earnings call MEA was surprisingly absent from discussion. All fingers point to MEA not being a financial flop, but probably not living up to EA's predictions for what they wanted. Also unlike the original 3 games which was a planned trilogy, MEA was always seen as a "pilot" type game where they test the waters to see if this can become something bigger. EA is tight about information about any of their games aside from one line if it broken some kind of record. Games don't like up to expectations all the time, Final Fantasy VII sold 500,000 less copies then expected. |
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Obligatory we-only-explored-a-cluster-not-the-whole-galaxy post Actually we could tweak that to: We only explored a cluster not the whole galaxy and all we got was the Angara and Kett tee shirt. |
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Post by kino on Jun 10, 2017 23:36:59 GMT
The plot is about expanding into other galaxies, you'll see various races taking part in that. Love the "this race is boring" comments /s Not to mention all the people that have the opposite opinion as the OP and if they only moved humanity to Andromeda the would say they are abandoning everything that made Mass Effect great. It like the people that claim BioWare should have made an ending canon and everyone should have "just dealt with it" I am pretty sure they would be the first to go ballistic if BioWare picked an ending aside from the one they wanted. Whew...there would be an Internet firestorm if BioWare picked a canon ending. People would absolutely lose their shit. |
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