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Post by Sentinel2010 on Jun 12, 2017 21:24:06 GMT
What is this "Platinum" thing you guys keep talking aboot?
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 12, 2017 21:24:25 GMT
The kineticist would appear to have more swag, but, let's take a look at it again. If you maxed throw, lance, acension and barrier on a kineticist, a single point pull would be close to useless. Could you explain this a bit more? Does Pull not function as a primer with one rank on the Kineticist? It does with the other kits I have, but I've seen SP companions that require higher ranks for some natural primers to gain that ability. I thought it worked fine when I used her, but it was only the once. Why does the Kineticist have to go to 6 in Lance? Is that the only way to make it work? My current build plan isn't moving in that direction, so I'm curious. I can assure you, i won't be seeing many kineticists on platinum. But i'll be seeing many huntresses on platinum. This again. Which game are you referring to? ME 3? Have they said something about ME:A having an upcoming Platinum DLC? In fact, i bet no one will be ascending on platinum with her. Even if it's coming how does that matter to the conversation now? Is your claim that Huntress with this build is objectively superiour because of how it will perform compared to Kineticist in Platinum when that eventually comes? I don't care either way, I'm just hoping you'll explain because you're not really making sense. A character that's too squishy for platinum is not a superior character in my books. Enjoy her on gold and silver. Well, I don't need to be able to play a Huntress in MEA Gold to know that people who make statements like this rarely have much to back them up, other than being unable to do so themselves. Is it not a bit strange to admit that you are unable to play a kit in a difficulty that doesn't exist yet? Despite not being able to consistently survive Gold with any kit at the moment, you don't hear me saying that I can't play a Kineticist or a Huntress in Gold. Because, you know... I figure with practice and an open mind, I'll probably be able to someday.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 22:29:39 GMT
The kineticist would appear to have more swag, but, let's take a look at it again. If you maxed throw, lance, acension and barrier on a kineticist, a single point pull would be close to useless. Could you explain this a bit more? Does Pull not function as a primer with one rank on the Kineticist? It does with the other kits I have, but I've seen SP companions that require higher ranks for some natural primers to gain that ability. I thought it worked fine when I used her, but it was only the once. Why does the Kineticist have to go to 6 in Lance? Is that the only way to make it work? My current build plan isn't moving in that direction, so I'm curious. I can assure you, i won't be seeing many kineticists on platinum. But i'll be seeing many huntresses on platinum. This again. Which game are you referring to? ME 3? Have they said something about ME:A having an upcoming Platinum DLC? In fact, i bet no one will be ascending on platinum with her. Even if it's coming how does that matter to the conversation now? Is your claim that Huntress with this build is objectively superiour because of how it will perform compared to Kineticist in Platinum when that eventually comes? I don't care either way, I'm just hoping you'll explain because you're not really making sense. A character that's too squishy for platinum is not a superior character in my books. Enjoy her on gold and silver. Well, I don't need to be able to play a Huntress in MEA Gold to know that people who make statements like this rarely have much to back them up, other than being unable to do so themselves. Is it not a bit strange to admit that you are unable to play a kit in a difficulty that doesn't exist yet? Despite not being able to consistently survive Gold with any kit at the moment, you don't hear me saying that I can't play a Kineticist or a Huntress in Gold. Because, you know... I figure with practice and an open mind, I'll probably be able to someday. I have been playing ME3MP platinum since ME3 with 3 other adrenalin junkies. We make it harder by doing 2 man squads, etc, work out different tactics with different maps, etc. I have SOLO'ed platinum with several characters successfully (bit of a hard thing to do). Anyways, I've been impatiently waiting for Bioware to release MEA platinum for a bit now. Consequently, I'm exploring different MEA kits to optimize/future proof them when platinum comes out. The AI engine appears to be identical in MEA. What i'm suggesting is largely based on my experience with different kits/possible tactics/etc from tinkering around with this stuff since ME3 platinum came around. But, i can see now that i may have gotten a li'l carried away about some hypothetical difficulty level that doesn't exist in MEAMP yet...and brought anger and frustration to many strangers on here. So, lets make you'all happy and less concerned for a second!! Huntress is boring and redundant! Kineticist is swaggy and fing awesome! Be happy now y'all..LOL P.S Don't get too worked up about some general guide man. Feel free to change it however you want. I posted another build for the human sentinel here bsn.boards.net/thread/11182/sentinel-reckless-fellas-critters-attemptBut, its another general guide too. Feel free to change it however you want. Do what works for you.
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Post by Sentinel2010 on Jun 12, 2017 22:36:51 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 12, 2017 22:51:21 GMT
I have been playing ME3MP platinum since ME3 with 3 other adrenalin junkies. We make it harder by doing 2 man squads, etc, work out different tactics with different maps, etc. I have SOLO'ed platinum with several characters successfully (bit of a hard thing to do). Anyways, I've been impatiently waiting for Bioware to release MEA platinum for a bit now. Consequently, I'm exploring different MEA kits to optimize/future proof them when platinum comes out. The AI engine appears to be identical in MEA. What i'm suggesting is largely based on my experience with different kits/possible tactics/etc from tinkering around with this stuff since ME3 platinum came around. But, i can see now that i may have gotten a li'l carried away about some hypothetical difficulty level that doesn't exist in MEAMP yet...and brought anger and frustration to many strangers on here. So, lets make you'all happy and less concerned for a second!! Huntress is boring and redundant! Kineticist is swaggy and fing awesome! Be happy now y'all..LOL P.S Don't get too worked up about some general guide man. Feel free to change it however you want. I posted another build for the human sentinel here bsn.boards.net/thread/11182/sentinel-reckless-fellas-critters-attemptBut, its another general guide too. Feel free to change it however you want. Do what works for you. You started out fine. I mean, I was disappointed that you didn't answer my questions, but to be honest, I guess I didn't really expect that you would. Your explanation about anticipating platinum makes a lot of sense, even if it seems mostly designed to deflect the questions I was asking. The part at the end, there, well, let's call that what it is. That's you trying to save face. And that's fine, but so is me calling you out on it. I have a better sense of the mood of this place than you do. No one here is upset with you over your build. I'm not saying that kind of thing won't happen, but it isn't happening now. In fact, if you ever decide to do a post-mortem on your inital approach, you'll notice that pretty much everyone who questioned one or more of your statements also acknowledged the legitimacy of the build earlier in the thread. As your ever-escalating claims got... "out of hand" people didn't get angry at you, they asked you questions (along with a bit of minor error nitpicking.) Questions you either couldn't or wouldn't answer, so you can't really blame other people if the thread didn't turn out as you had intended. And for the record, it still could turn into a proper build discussion thread. That would probably require you putting some effort into actually answering the questions people ask you, though, since that would theoretically be your role in the affair (just sayin'.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 0:08:19 GMT
I have been playing ME3MP platinum since ME3 with 3 other adrenalin junkies. We make it harder by doing 2 man squads, etc, work out different tactics with different maps, etc. I have SOLO'ed platinum with several characters successfully (bit of a hard thing to do). Anyways, I've been impatiently waiting for Bioware to release MEA platinum for a bit now. Consequently, I'm exploring different MEA kits to optimize/future proof them when platinum comes out. The AI engine appears to be identical in MEA. What i'm suggesting is largely based on my experience with different kits/possible tactics/etc from tinkering around with this stuff since ME3 platinum came around. But, i can see now that i may have gotten a li'l carried away about some hypothetical difficulty level that doesn't exist in MEAMP yet...and brought anger and frustration to many strangers on here. So, lets make you'all happy and less concerned for a second!! Huntress is boring and redundant! Kineticist is swaggy and fing awesome! Be happy now y'all..LOL P.S Don't get too worked up about some general guide man. Feel free to change it however you want. I posted another build for the human sentinel here bsn.boards.net/thread/11182/sentinel-reckless-fellas-critters-attemptBut, its another general guide too. Feel free to change it however you want. Do what works for you. You started out fine. I mean, I was disappointed that you didn't answer my questions, but to be honest, I guess I didn't really expect that you would. Your explanation about anticipating platinum makes a lot of sense, even if it seems mostly designed to deflect the questions I was asking. The part at the end, there, well, let's call that what it is. That's you trying to save face. And that's fine, but so is me calling you out on it. I have a better sense of the mood of this place than you do. No one here is upset with you over your build. I'm not saying that kind of thing won't happen, but it isn't happening now. In fact, if you ever decide to do a post-mortem on your inital approach, you'll notice that pretty much everyone who questioned one or more of your statements also acknowledged the legitimacy of the build earlier in the thread. As your ever-escalating claims got... "out of hand" people didn't get angry at you, they asked you questions (along with a bit of minor error nitpicking.) Questions you either couldn't or wouldn't answer, so you can't really blame other people if the thread didn't turn out as you had intended. And for the record, it still could turn into a proper build discussion thread. That would probably require you putting some effort into actually answering the questions people ask you, though, since that would theoretically be your role in the affair (just sayin'.) Dude, quit being a patronizing clown. I could read you from 3 miles away with my eyes closed. I don’t need to “save face” or prove anything to you. Yeah I know a lot about the tone/mood of this place. Some folks are decent, but it does have its fair share of egoistic know it all scrubs…. I’m not your average entry level player bud. I’ve been at this for a while. I understand that you boys are learning things, trying to graduate from scrubville high school, but, I just lack the patience to write out each and every scenario for every build….savvy? I may only answer a question only if i felt like it.
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Post by capn233 on Jun 13, 2017 0:24:43 GMT
I had been screwing around with the Huntress using single throw and lance detonation since she is not completely leveled. Was not really impressed so far, and it is unclear to me that she will ever endear herself to me given her set of powers. Really she probably just best for following around an AA buddy and using Throw and Lance to detonate what others are priming. Or go the ammo route.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 13, 2017 0:26:36 GMT
You started out fine. I mean, I was disappointed that you didn't answer my questions, but to be honest, I guess I didn't really expect that you would. Your explanation about anticipating platinum makes a lot of sense, even if it seems mostly designed to deflect the questions I was asking. The part at the end, there, well, let's call that what it is. That's you trying to save face. And that's fine, but so is me calling you out on it. I have a better sense of the mood of this place than you do. No one here is upset with you over your build. I'm not saying that kind of thing won't happen, but it isn't happening now. In fact, if you ever decide to do a post-mortem on your inital approach, you'll notice that pretty much everyone who questioned one or more of your statements also acknowledged the legitimacy of the build earlier in the thread. As your ever-escalating claims got... "out of hand" people didn't get angry at you, they asked you questions (along with a bit of minor error nitpicking.) Questions you either couldn't or wouldn't answer, so you can't really blame other people if the thread didn't turn out as you had intended. And for the record, it still could turn into a proper build discussion thread. That would probably require you putting some effort into actually answering the questions people ask you, though, since that would theoretically be your role in the affair (just sayin'.) Dude, quit being a patronizing clown. I could read you from 3 miles away with my eyes closed. I don’t need to “save face” or prove anything to you. Yeah I know a lot about the tone/mood of this place. Some folks are decent, but it does have its fair share of egoistic know it all scrubs…. I’m not your average entry level player bud. I’ve been at this for a while. I understand that you boys are learning things, trying to graduate from scrubville high school, but, I just lack the patience to write out each and every scenario for every build….savvy? I may only answer a question only if i felt like it. I can't imagine why I ever thought someone who would post about a build would answer questions about it. It's probably because I'm an angry patronizing clown whom you can read with your eyes closed. And might I add that your ability to grasp tone is literally incredible.
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Post by spacev3gan on Jun 13, 2017 1:39:30 GMT
I commend OP's effort and eagerness to share us a build and playstyle for the Huntress, but at the end of the day she still remains (arguably) the most redundant kit in the game. The only thing she has in her favor is to be the only character in game that can both Cloak and self-combo. Nevertheless, as far as Cloak kits go, she has the weakest buffs of all. And as far as self-combo capable kits go, she is the most limited one. Of course one can fix her shortcomings by yielding a Dhan, but the same can be said about any kit. Any Cloak kit + Dhan or self-combo kit + Dhan can either replace or outperform her.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 3:32:23 GMT
I commend OP's effort and eagerness to share us a build and playstyle for the Huntress, but at the end of the day she still remains (arguably) the most redundant kit in the game. The only thing she has in her favor is to be the only character in game that can both Cloak and self-combo. Nevertheless, as far as Cloak kits go, she has the weakest buffs of all. And as far as self-combo capable kits go, she is the most limited one. Of course one can fix her shortcomings by yielding a Dhan, but the same can be said about any kit. Any Cloak kit + Dhan or self-combo kit + Dhan can either replace or outperform her. Well, up until a few hours ago, you didn't even know that throw could be a primer. But, now you've suddenly become the huntress expert. There's only one way to figure this out. I'll bring the huntress and the Dhan. Heck, i'll just bring a Crusader or something. You bring ANY KIT OUT THERE that you feel is really powerful/overpowered/etc and....you bring ANY OP weapon out there. We'll make it a 2 man squad on Gold. If you beat my score and stay alive at the end, i'll accept that the huntress sucks. But, if you're a dead dodo with a measly score splattered on the floor, you will quit being a simpleton and keep your trap shut............ You ready for that 2 man squad gold kett/remnant/outlaw showdown?? Put your money where your mouth is. We'll stream it to all the dudes on this forum (we'll stream it to the whole world).
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 13, 2017 3:39:41 GMT
oh my god did he just say meet me on the playground
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 3:43:08 GMT
oh my god did he just say meet me on the playground did that just happen is this real lifeAh, its you again. Just sit back and a watch a simpleton get put in his place. You can be next in line if you want (LALA LOLOL, u laughin yet? LOLOL) Lenny Busker eh? We'll just call you LO-LOL from now on. LO-LOL's LOLing away...
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Post by spacev3gan on Jun 13, 2017 3:45:29 GMT
Well, up until a few hours ago, you didn't even know that throw could be a primer. But, now you've suddenly become the huntress expert. There's only one way to figure this out. I'll bring the huntress and the Dhan. Heck, i'll just bring a Crusader or something. You bring ANY KIT OUT THERE that you feel is really powerful/overpowered/etc and....you bring ANY OP weapon out there. We'll make it a 2 man squad on Gold. If you beat my score and stay alive at the end, i'll accept that the huntress sucks. But, if you're a dead dodo with a measly score splattered on the floor, you will quit being a simpleton and keep your trap shut............ You ready for that 2 man squad gold kett/remnant/outlaw showdown?? Put your money where your mouth is. We'll stream it to all the dudes on this forum (we'll stream it to the whole world). Lol what? Criticizing your build is now = Challenge? Is your desire for self assertion that bad? Yeah, I didn't know Throw could prime consistently. I've promoted the Huntress twice, she is one of the kits I played the least. But yeah, if you want to show me that badly your awesome Huntress, if you play on PC and are willing to play on my host, that is fine. I have played several Gold duos. Feel free to add me on Origin, my id is the same as in here.
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Post by kalil on Jun 13, 2017 4:38:24 GMT
Ooh. Thunderdome! 1v1 babby!
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 13, 2017 4:42:50 GMT
I think this kid is having a stroke. Quick sage, do the FAST check!
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Post by spacev3gan on Jun 13, 2017 5:58:05 GMT
This 'simpleton' here is already regretting accepting this Challenge, lol.
This game is way more lag sensitive than ME3 ever was. Over long distances, being host is more of an advantage than character choice, maybe even more than weapon choice. Playing from a remote region makes these challenges impractical for me, since no one else is from my region. If the OP wants to try my host out, I guess we should be able to give that a shot (though his uninviting tone didn't help much with that); still, his Stealth Grid will be bugged and his Dhan will miss most of the time in spite of his aiming. Due entirely to lag, this experiment won't prove anything, other than we might either fail or succeed due to cooperation or lack of such thing.
I guess he should rather make a video for us to see how his awesome build works in gameplay under favorable or neutral circumstances.
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Post by Scathane on Jun 13, 2017 6:05:52 GMT
Well, up until a few hours ago, you didn't even know that throw could be a primer. But, now you've suddenly become the huntress expert. There's only one way to figure this out. I'll bring the huntress and the Dhan. Heck, i'll just bring a Crusader or something. You bring ANY KIT OUT THERE that you feel is really powerful/overpowered/etc and....you bring ANY OP weapon out there. We'll make it a 2 man squad on Gold. If you beat my score and stay alive at the end, i'll accept that the huntress sucks. But, if you're a dead dodo with a measly score splattered on the floor, you will quit being a simpleton and keep your trap shut............ You ready for that 2 man squad gold kett/remnant/outlaw showdown?? Put your money where your mouth is. We'll stream it to all the dudes on this forum (we'll stream it to the whole world). Lol what? Criticizing your build is now = Challenge? Is your desire for self assertion that bad? Yeah, I didn't know Throw could prime consistently. I've promoted the Huntress twice, she is one of the kits I played the least. But yeah, if you want to show me that badly your awesome Huntress, if you play on PC and are willing to play on my host, that is fine. I have played several Gold duos. Feel free to add me on Origin, my id is the same as in here. Goodie! When can we expect the upload of the match? I'd hate to be out of popcorn... i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv264/llamaplaid/spy-vs-spy.png
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jun 13, 2017 7:05:43 GMT
The challenge has been accepted. OP plays on PC. He better not duck this shit.
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Post by akots on Jun 13, 2017 8:55:58 GMT
... I guess he should rather make a video for us to see how his awesome build works in gameplay under favorable or neutral circumstances. I am currently leveling the huntress almost exactly as OP suggested. And anyone can respec and try it out for themselves. She's not bad, just redundant and not very exciting to play TBH although perfectly safe and good for the objectives obviously excluding boss targets due to abysmal dps. Explosions as well as dhan are very iffy even with small lag as well as generally hitting even non-flying standing still things with lance, and I wish stealth grid is more reliable off host but alas, it is not. IMO, this kit and this manner of play are for hosting only gameplay or absolutely minimal lag. Your host is generally fine for me but I would seriously doubt this huntress can be effective with about 120-150 msec lag. Any sniper lol-filtrator should be way better than her and both kineticist and assdept are certainly more fun to use IMvHO. If, hypothetically, there is any platinum, and it is a boss spam aka ME3, she would be an absolute disaster due to low dps and lack of powers effective against armored and shielded bosses. However, with some rapid fire gun and incendiary or disruptor ammo using "traditional" game play, I imagine she would be just fine spamming tech explosions.
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Post by xrollxtidex on Jun 13, 2017 14:30:50 GMT
Well, up until a few hours ago, you didn't even know that throw could be a primer. But, now you've suddenly become the huntress expert. There's only one way to figure this out. I'll bring the huntress and the Dhan. Heck, i'll just bring a Crusader or something. You bring ANY KIT OUT THERE that you feel is really powerful/overpowered/etc and....you bring ANY OP weapon out there. We'll make it a 2 man squad on Gold. If you beat my score and stay alive at the end, i'll accept that the huntress sucks. But, if you're a dead dodo with a measly score splattered on the floor, you will quit being a simpleton and keep your trap shut............ You ready for that 2 man squad gold kett/remnant/outlaw showdown?? Put your money where your mouth is. We'll stream it to all the dudes on this forum (we'll stream it to the whole world). Lol what? Criticizing your build is now = Challenge? Is your desire for self assertion that bad? Yeah, I didn't know Throw could prime consistently. I've promoted the Huntress twice, she is one of the kits I played the least. But yeah, if you want to show me that badly your awesome Huntress, if you play on PC and are willing to play on my host, that is fine. I have played several Gold duos. Feel free to add me on Origin, my id is the same as in here. You should play twice. Once on his host and once on yours. OP is 100% reliant on his host. Also, I do not understand why the OP can not make game play videos to demonstrate his builds/skills, especially since he is a PC master race.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 14:56:34 GMT
This 'simpleton' here is already regretting accepting this Challenge, lol. This game is way more lag sensitive than ME3 ever was. Over long distances, being host is more of an advantage than character choice, maybe even more than weapon choice. Playing from a remote region makes these challenges impractical for me, since no one else is from my region. If the OP wants to try my host out, I guess we should be able to give that a shot (though his uninviting tone didn't help much with that); still, his Stealth Grid will be bugged and his Dhan will miss most of the time in spite of his aiming. Due entirely to lag, this experiment won't prove anything, other than we might either fail or succeed due to cooperation or lack of such thing. I guess he should rather make a video for us to see how his awesome build works in gameplay under favorable or neutral circumstances. Where are you located? I am in the US Midwest and i have high speed fiber. The challenge is off if you're some bloke from Australia or Newzealand in the ass end of the world with shtbucket internet. I've played with a guy from Australia before and its unplayable! But, if you're in the US with half way decent internet, the issue with lag can be evened out to an extent by taking an average of 2 scores from each host. (spacev3gan Host score + sageshatriya Host score)/2. But, the confoundedness from some kits geting impacted more by lag than others cannot be removed. In fact, i'd think that the huntress gets affected the most. So, you'll have an inherent advantage if you brought another kit, but, that's ok, it's a risk i'm willing to take.... Ideally, this 2 man showdown would be better suited for a higher difficulty level like platinum (so i can completely shatter all your hopes and dreams), but, we'll make do with gold for now. Other things to consider, I won't be offering any support and neither should you. I'll be altering my playstyle a bit to make it hard for you...and so should you. For objectives on wave 3 and wave 6, we can collaborate a bit. Outside of that, we should be trying our best to get the other guy killed.
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Post by Ares on Jun 13, 2017 15:10:09 GMT
Boring ass character with shitty skill set. Really wish theyd just redo her.
Also what the hell is even going on in here... lol
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