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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 13, 2017 15:10:15 GMT
But, the confoundedness from some kits geting impacted more by lag than others cannot be removed. In fact, i'd think that the huntress gets affected the most. Why would the Huntress be affected by Lag more than other projectile casters? If the question isn't too angry for your delicate sensibilities. I know I can be rough on you.
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Post by kalil on Jun 13, 2017 15:10:30 GMT
I am excited already!
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Post by Schreiner on Jun 13, 2017 15:36:38 GMT
This 'simpleton' here is already regretting accepting this Challenge, lol. This game is way more lag sensitive than ME3 ever was. Over long distances, being host is more of an advantage than character choice, maybe even more than weapon choice. Playing from a remote region makes these challenges impractical for me, since no one else is from my region. If the OP wants to try my host out, I guess we should be able to give that a shot (though his uninviting tone didn't help much with that); still, his Stealth Grid will be bugged and his Dhan will miss most of the time in spite of his aiming. Due entirely to lag, this experiment won't prove anything, other than we might either fail or succeed due to cooperation or lack of such thing. I guess he should rather make a video for us to see how his awesome build works in gameplay under favorable or neutral circumstances. Where are you located? I am in the US Midwest and i have high speed fiber. The challenge is off if you're some bloke from Australia or Newzealand in the ass end of the world with shtbucket internet. I've played with a guy from Australia before and its unplayable! But, if you're in the US with half way decent internet, the issue with lag can be evened out to an extent by taking an average of 2 scores from each host. (spacev3gan Host score + sageshatriya Host score)/2. But, the confoundedness from some kits geting impacted more by lag than others cannot be removed. In fact, i'd think that the huntress gets affected the most. So, you'll have an inherent advantage if you brought another kit, but, that's ok, it's a risk i'm willing to take.... Ideally, this 2 man showdown would be better suited for a higher difficulty level like platinum (so i can completely shatter all your hopes and dreams), but, we'll make do with gold for now. Other things to consider, I won't be offering any support and neither should you. I'll be altering my playstyle a bit to make it hard for you...and so should you. For objectives on wave 3 and wave 6, we can collaborate a bit. Outside of that, we should be trying our best to get the other guy killed. only one other person on this forum (to my memory) has garnered the amount of disdain from this forum as you have. you sound suspiciously like him, all the way down to challenging people to a 1v1 score challenge. i'm half expecting you to next tell everyone you're an attractive white male that has incredible success with women. it's not the content of your posts and/or builds that sets people off, it's the fact that you sound like a huge douche bag that takes offense to every comment personally. that being said, i also accept this challenge. i don't consider myself to be that great (probably better than average) and i will probably end up dying permanently with no revives left by wave 7, but i like friendly competition and this sounds fun. origin: SchreinersX any weekday after 7PM ish EST works for me, we can work out a time then discuss the details of the game itself. I live in the US on the East Coast, and my internet is decent. Look forward to playing with you!
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Post by spacev3gan on Jun 13, 2017 16:53:17 GMT
Where are you located? I am in the US Midwest and i have high speed fiber. The challenge is off if you're some bloke from Australia or Newzealand in the ass end of the world with shtbucket internet. I've played with a guy from Australia before and its unplayable! But, if you're in the US with half way decent internet, the issue with lag can be evened out to an extent by taking an average of 2 scores from each host. (spacev3gan Host score + sageshatriya Host score)/2. But, the confoundedness from some kits geting impacted more by lag than others cannot be removed. In fact, i'd think that the huntress gets affected the most. So, you'll have an inherent advantage if you brought another kit, but, that's ok, it's a risk i'm willing to take.... Ideally, this 2 man showdown would be better suited for a higher difficulty level like platinum (so i can completely shatter all your hopes and dreams), but, we'll make do with gold for now. Other things to consider, I won't be offering any support and neither should you. I'll be altering my playstyle a bit to make it hard for you...and so should you. For objectives on wave 3 and wave 6, we can collaborate a bit. Outside of that, we should be trying our best to get the other guy killed. South of Brazil. Connection-wise you will be seeing 2 or 3 bars/4 in the lobby, but 1/4 in game. I play with some Americans and hosting/not hosting is a sizable advantage. Things won't work accordingly for me on your host and neither for you on my host. There is very little to prove with this experiment beyond that. I have done Gold duos - in a cooperative manner - and I believe so have you. But honestly your silly/boastful tone in responding to anyone here isn't getting me very excited either. You might have the most unique Huntress build out there, btw thanks for the Throw priming tip, now "shatter all your hopes and dreams", "quit being a simpleton" and the trash-talk overall isn't my thing, nor what I search for when gaming. If you think you are addressing a newbie/inexperienced player who can't do Gold for giving that Throw tip, I guess you should have a look at the leaderboards. I am far from being your average 'simpleton'. As I said once, you should rather make and upload videos if you want to prove your build effectiveness. Or take this challenge to some of your countrymen who can play with you with minimal lag and/or might take the competitive/trash-talk spirit of yours more seriously. The Huntress is, by and large, not seeing as powerful character. So there should be others here willing to join you in this duo.
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Post by Heroicmass on Jun 13, 2017 17:52:40 GMT
If a true blunderdome is out of the question, then you could always have a solo challenge. Preset map and enemy and fastest time wins.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 18:21:48 GMT
... I guess he should rather make a video for us to see how his awesome build works in gameplay under favorable or neutral circumstances. I am currently leveling the huntress almost exactly as OP suggested. And anyone can respec and try it out for themselves. She's not bad, just redundant and not very exciting to play TBH although perfectly safe and good for the objectives obviously excluding boss targets due to abysmal dps. Explosions as well as dhan are very iffy even with small lag as well as generally hitting even non-flying standing still things with lance, and I wish stealth grid is more reliable off host but alas, it is not. IMO, this kit and this manner of play are for hosting only gameplay or absolutely minimal lag. Your host is generally fine for me but I would seriously doubt this huntress can be effective with about 120-150 msec lag. Any sniper lol-filtrator should be way better than her and both kineticist and assdept are certainly more fun to use IMvHO. If, hypothetically, there is any platinum, and it is a boss spam aka ME3, she would be an absolute disaster due to low dps and lack of powers effective against armored and shielded bosses. However, with some rapid fire gun and incendiary or disruptor ammo using "traditional" game play, I imagine she would be just fine spamming tech explosions. If you recall, the huntress in ME3MP is OverPowered (cloak+darkchannel+warp!!). If you threw a power mod on a hurricane with her, nobody could beat your score no matter what they tried. Hence, all the scrubs had such an easy time in life with her. Now, they're butthurt that the huntress in MEA is designed to be a more honest "support based" character. The huntress in MEA is designed as a hybrid between a infiltrator and adept with compromise so she isn't OverPowered like her predecessor. She is designed to play a support role this time with stealthgrid and scrub lives are unable to handle it. For instance,all the scrubs cried so hard when their OverPowered vanquishers were given a hint of honesty again. So, let's not forget that this is nothing new in the everyday life of a dishonest scrub. But, this is a CO-OP game after all and I have tried to explain on a earlier post that she would be ideal to play as a support role on a higher difficulty (like platinum for instance, AI engine's the same in both games) because of group stealth. The typical support roles (salarian operator, human engineer, etc) would be harder to deal with on higher difficulties because of general squishiness and they can't offer guaranteed revives. In addition, you can still do significant strategic burst gun damage with this kit, combo explosions, melee, etc, pretty much anything and get decent scores. This is definitely not a sniper build (think more along the lines of shotgun infiltrator builds in ME3, human infiltrator w/Claymore, etc). When you fight closer range, throw/lance offers way more utility. P.S If the Dhan's lagging out on you a bit much and you got armored Berserkers to deal with, take a Piranha instead, stealth grid, get right up behind and unload on the back side of Beserker's head! If he turns around, throw stagger (get biotic warrior enhancement), unload again with enhanced gun damage...lance, melee, lance, melee, etc. You would probably have the Biotic warrior weapon buff non stop with this character (once you get a rythm going) If its a shielded foe like the anointed, stealth grid, get right behind and unload on the back of his head. If shield's gone, initiate biotic detonation and get it over with. Its not too complicated...
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jun 13, 2017 18:29:40 GMT
I'm not seeing challenges being accepted here....
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Post by Schreiner on Jun 13, 2017 18:31:46 GMT
I'm not seeing challenges being accepted here.... i accepted the challenge in my post
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jun 13, 2017 18:36:55 GMT
I'm not seeing challenges being accepted here.... i accepted the challenge in my post I'm talking about the OP.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 18:38:54 GMT
Where are you located? I am in the US Midwest and i have high speed fiber. The challenge is off if you're some bloke from Australia or Newzealand in the ass end of the world with shtbucket internet. I've played with a guy from Australia before and its unplayable! But, if you're in the US with half way decent internet, the issue with lag can be evened out to an extent by taking an average of 2 scores from each host. (spacev3gan Host score + sageshatriya Host score)/2. But, the confoundedness from some kits geting impacted more by lag than others cannot be removed. In fact, i'd think that the huntress gets affected the most. So, you'll have an inherent advantage if you brought another kit, but, that's ok, it's a risk i'm willing to take.... Ideally, this 2 man showdown would be better suited for a higher difficulty level like platinum (so i can completely shatter all your hopes and dreams), but, we'll make do with gold for now. Other things to consider, I won't be offering any support and neither should you. I'll be altering my playstyle a bit to make it hard for you...and so should you. For objectives on wave 3 and wave 6, we can collaborate a bit. Outside of that, we should be trying our best to get the other guy killed. South of Brazil. Connection-wise you will be seeing 2 or 3 bars/4 in the lobby, but 1/4 in game. I play with some Americans and hosting/not hosting is a sizable advantage. Things won't work accordingly for me on your host and neither for you on my host. There is very little to prove with this experiment beyond that. I have done Gold duos - in a cooperative manner - and I believe so have you. But honestly your silly/boastful tone in responding to anyone here isn't getting me very excited either. You might have the most unique Huntress build out there, btw thanks for the Throw priming tip, now "shatter all your hopes and dreams", "quit being a simpleton" and the trash-talk overall isn't my thing, nor what I search for when gaming. If you think you are addressing a newbie/inexperienced player who can't do Gold for giving that Throw tip, I guess you should have a look at the leaderboards. I am far from being your average 'simpleton'. As I said once, you should rather make and upload videos if you want to prove your build effectiveness. Or take this challenge to some of your countrymen who can play with you with minimal lag and/or might take the competitive/trash-talk spirit of yours more seriously. The Huntress is, by and large, not seeing as powerful character. So there should be others here willing to join you in this duo. Ah ok, Brazil might still be way better than Australia! "shatter all your hopes and dreams", now we both know a silly game ain't gonna shatter all your hopes and dreams. Its a joke man! We just joke around like that out here in Kansas to keep ourselves together....I used to be a pro-level MortalKombat 9 and X player. Not well known, because i didn't make it to tournaments (have a business to run!). But, i've beaten several of the pro guys you see on tournaments. Its just some silly trash talk from the MK culture that spills over sometimes. No offense intended... P.S. I'll make some videos when i optimize the file size vs quality on these video capture tools. Struggling with it at the moment.
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 13, 2017 18:40:27 GMT
LOL are you backing out? Oh my god.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 18:45:55 GMT
LOL are you backing out? Oh my god. Oh my god, Lo-LoL, its you, you're finally back after messin around with all those other guys....so glad to have you back in my life Lo-LoL
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Post by Schreiner on Jun 13, 2017 18:53:22 GMT
just to reiterate in its own post, i am accepting the challenge. nothing serious, and i don't consider myself to be a particularly good player, but i like friendly competition and it could be fun to break up the monotony of constant gold credit grinding. i'm on the east coast with decent internet, so that should eliminate any reservations concerning lag.
- 2 Games, one where I am hosting, and one where you are hosting. We can 2 man the missions, or pug the other 2 spots in order to make it a more realistic scenario - Whoever is hosting decides the Map and Enemy type (or we could just do Random/Random) - I assume you will be using the asari huntress per your challenge, but if you decide to use a different class/loadout i don't particularly care - On Retrieval and Device Objectives, we will each take 2 to ensure that we both get the +1000 objective points. If we pug the other 2 open spots, neither of us will tackle the objectives, and let the pugs get em - On Upload and Hack Objectives, we will both work together to ensure completion - On Assassination, I don't think killing the target gives you more points (I may be wrong) so everything is fair game
In terms of points, we will have to screenshot the scoreboard at the end of wave 7 as opposed to rely on the actual mission results screen. The reason is because apparently now points from medals don't count toward your total score.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jun 13, 2017 19:15:06 GMT
LOL are you backing out? Oh my god. Fucking blowhards... Smh.
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Post by DesertPlanet65 on Jun 13, 2017 19:33:40 GMT
LOL are you backing out? Oh my god. Fucking blowhards... Smh. Yeah, who could have guessed...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 19:43:22 GMT
just to reiterate in its own post, i am accepting the challenge. nothing serious, and i don't consider myself to be a particularly good player, but i like friendly competition and it could be fun to break up the monotony of constant gold credit grinding. i'm on the east coast with decent internet, so that should eliminate any reservations concerning lag. - 2 Games, one where I am hosting, and one where you are hosting. We can 2 man the missions, or pug the other 2 spots in order to make it a more realistic scenario - Whoever is hosting decides the Map and Enemy type (or we could just do Random/Random) - I assume you will be using the asari huntress per your challenge, but if you decide to use a different class/loadout i don't particularly care - On Retrieval and Device Objectives, we will each take 2 to ensure that we both get the +1000 objective points. If we pug the other 2 open spots, neither of us will tackle the objectives, and let the pugs get em - On Upload and Hack Objectives, we will both work together to ensure completion - On Assassination, I don't think killing the target gives you more points (I may be wrong) so everything is fair game In terms of points, we will have to screenshot the scoreboard at the end of wave 7 as opposed to rely on the actual mission results screen. The reason is because apparently now points from medals don't count toward your total score. Origin: SchreinersX Any weekday after 7 ish PM EST works for me. if we can't settle on a weekday, we can try to arrange a time on the weekend to do it. Will send you a add request when i get home.
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Post by hanskey on Jun 13, 2017 20:21:54 GMT
I'd just like to encourage the duelers.
#VidsOrItDidntHappen
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Post by Schreiner on Jun 13, 2017 20:30:27 GMT
I'd just like to encourage the duelers. #VidsOrItDidntHappen my computer is a semi-potato, so running any recording software will probably make it explode
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 13, 2017 21:01:55 GMT
I did it in the other, so... may as well here, too. My concerns are: 1. For 99% of the time, one of the Double Throw projectiles will ignore any target and head back to the Milky Way. 2. Enemies affected by Throw usually fly high, make the combos of little use (since other enemies are hardly caught in explosions/thrown enemies fall off the map and die anyway). 3. Why Biotic Warrior? Could you explain this a bit more? Does Pull not function as a primer with one rank on the Kineticist? It does with the other kits I have, but I've seen SP companions that require higher ranks for some natural primers to gain that ability. I thought it worked fine when I used her, but it was only the once. Why does the Kineticist have to go to 6 in Lance? Is that the only way to make it work? My current build plan isn't moving in that direction, so I'm curious. But, the confoundedness from some kits geting impacted more by lag than others cannot be removed. In fact, i'd think that the huntress gets affected the most. Why would the Huntress be affected by Lag more than other projectile casters? Also a new question: I can't tell... which thread has the rule about discussing the build? Is it this one or the other one?
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I did it in the other, so... may as well here, too. My concerns are: 1. For 99% of the time, one of the Double Throw projectiles will ignore any target and head back to the Milky Way. 2. Enemies affected by Throw usually fly high, make the combos of little use (since other enemies are hardly caught in explosions/thrown enemies fall off the map and die anyway). 3. Why Biotic Warrior? Could you explain this a bit more? Does Pull not function as a primer with one rank on the Kineticist? It does with the other kits I have, but I've seen SP companions that require higher ranks for some natural primers to gain that ability. I thought it worked fine when I used her, but it was only the once. Why does the Kineticist have to go to 6 in Lance? Is that the only way to make it work? My current build plan isn't moving in that direction, so I'm curious. Why would the Huntress be affected by Lag more than other projectile casters? Also a new question: I can't tell... which thread has the rule about discussing the build? Is it this one or the other one? 1. For 99% of the time, one of the Double Throw projectiles will ignore any target and head back to the Milky Way. Fight close quarters against groups, that problem will go away. If you're a mile away casting throws, they will indeed seek the milkyway (they probably wish you went back to the milkyway with them too) 2. Enemies affected by Throw usually fly high, make the combos of little use (since other enemies are hardly caught in explosions/thrown enemies fall off the map and die anyway). You don't simply just cast a throw randomly. Your ideal goal is to throw them against a wall for 500+ world collison damage. They will float around nice and easy for you to detonate. Practice makes perfect, a wise man said (This is the third time i'm writing the same lines. Do you read my responses to someone else? It may already have the information you need. If they don't hit a wall, they better be flown off the map. 3. Why Biotic Warrior? Typically, you will be shooting your weapon when your biotic power casts are in cooldown. Each one of your biotic powers upon casting boosts gun damage for 3 seconds. If you got the right rhythm going with casting and shooting, you will constantly have a 15% boost to your gun damage and a melee damage boost as well. A 15% boost to a Piranha or Dhan is quite significant. 4. Could you explain this a bit more? Does Pull not function as a primer with one rank on the Kineticist? It does with the other kits I have, but I've seen SP companions that require higher ranks for some natural primers to gain that ability. I thought it worked fine when I used her, but it was only the once. Pull functions as a primer. But you don't get the collison from world damage that you get from throw. The Throw+Lance or Throw+Charge biotic combo detonations are the ones with the highest damage. Any other biotic combo is weaker. 5. Why does the Kineticist have to go to 6 in Lance? Is that the only way to make it work? My current build plan isn't moving in that direction, so I'm curious. She doesn't need to. I haven't tinkered with that kit to suggest the optimal build. But, i do know for sure that many folks don't get the full utility of acension. In fact, it looks great on paper, but, its very easy to lose it already on gold...I won't comment on her until i get her to Rank X. The RNG Demon has only brought her up to level II for me.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jun 13, 2017 23:35:28 GMT
Holy shit! This thread is like Christmas! I was going to immediately rebuke the OP for his audacious claim that a joypad was a good idea on PC for this game. If you came from console, or just don't like MKB, I guess you can claim it is a fair substitute... But better lolololololololololololololololololololololololol. However, he didn't stop there, then Thunderdome issued, tiptoed around like FasterThanFTL or AirQuotes dodging a challenge.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 13, 2017 23:39:31 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 13, 2017 23:45:38 GMT
Pull functions as a primer. But you don't get the collison from world damage that you get from throw. The Throw+Lance or Throw+Charge biotic combo detonations are the ones with the highest damage. Any other biotic combo is weaker. I can follow the part about the collision damage. The confusing part is that you seem to be making a case for putting one rank in Pull being a good idea. If Pull can still prime and increase damage output through combos with one rank, wouldn't that make spending one on it an effective use of points?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 23:48:40 GMT
Holy shit! This thread is like Christmas! I was going to immediately rebuke the OP for his audacious claim that a joypad was a good idea on PC for this game. If you came from console, or just don't like MKB, I guess you can claim it is a fair substitute... But better lolololololololololololololololololololololololol. However, he didn't stop there, then Thunderdome issued, tiptoed around like FasterThanFTL or AirQuotes dodging a challenge. (facepalm) You stoopid fking knucklead, the stoopid fking knucklehead's saying the exact opposite of what i said... I said that a keyboard/mouse is better for this game on console. There are gizmos you can get to hook a keyboard/mouse to a console. Nobody should be playing this game with a PS4 controller of Xbox controller.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 13, 2017 23:51:30 GMT
But what if consoles use the joystick as part of the BioWare DPS formula? O.o
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