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Post by Wintermist on Jun 15, 2017 15:10:15 GMT
But playing one in MEA is just very stale. Having 2 out is fine, the drones themselves are good. It's the lack of other abilities to go with them that sucks, if you want to be able to direct the fire of the drones (and you do because of the damage boost vs targeted enemies) you got to keep those 2 skills out all the time which leaves only 1 other ability to go with it.
You can't swap to another favorite without them unsummoning (maybe you can if both favorites use Engineer profile, not sure) which is extra annoying.
BioWare, can't you make an effort to increase the amount of abilities out in singleplayer? Multiplayer is fine but singleplayer really needs more variation.
Yes we can change favorites in battle but that cooldown is just so annoying on top of interrupting the flow of combat itself and in the end you just settle for shooting everything down because quite simply you can't do much fun in battles. With more skills out we could play around more with what we got. Spending skillpoints would actually become more interesting.
Why not 2 favorites that contain 6 skills each?
I desperately want to enjoy the game as much as I can but this is really dragging down the enjoyment of it. Even my very first playthrough I noticed that half the game in I stopped spending skillpoints altogether...
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Post by PillarBiter on Jun 15, 2017 15:15:23 GMT
engineer is indeed one of the more underwhelming classes. But sentinel and explorer have a lot of potential. Definitely my 2 favorite classes!
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 15, 2017 15:18:58 GMT
Huh? Engineer is still very fun and OP "class" in this game.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 15, 2017 15:19:36 GMT
I concur. I'm an Engineer and Infilitrator style player and it's a waste of time. Without the ability to control the action like I did in the trilogy, its pretty much a single player game with companions that do whatever skill is not on cooldown. This was jarring for me and it soured as I felt like these classes were no different from any other class once the shooting starts. Cover, jump, shoot and repeat. I miss having companions set up fire lanes for me. Shooting into crates isn't covering fire. I'd rather solo in some cases because there is less chance of an enemy getting biotically melded into a wall and can't finish the dang quest.
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Post by kino on Jun 15, 2017 15:31:39 GMT
I concur. I'm an Engineer and Infilitrator style player and it's a waste of time. Without the ability to control the action like I did in the trilogy, its pretty much a single player game with companions that do whatever skill is not on cooldown. This was jarring for me and it soured as I felt like these classes were no different from any other class once the shooting starts. Cover, jump, shoot and repeat. I miss having companions set up fire lanes for me. Shooting into crates isn't covering fire. I'd rather solo in some cases because there is less chance of an enemy getting biotically melded into a wall and can't finish the dang quest. In all seriousness, put a couple of points in Shockwave and assign the power if something gets stuck in a wall or under a building. I'm not saying it's acceptable, only that there's a way to work around it. |
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 15, 2017 15:36:02 GMT
I concur. I'm an Engineer and Infilitrator style player and it's a waste of time. Without the ability to control the action like I did in the trilogy, its pretty much a single player game with companions that do whatever skill is not on cooldown. This was jarring for me and it soured as I felt like these classes were no different from any other class once the shooting starts. Cover, jump, shoot and repeat. I miss having companions set up fire lanes for me. Shooting into crates isn't covering fire. I'd rather solo in some cases because there is less chance of an enemy getting biotically melded into a wall and can't finish the dang quest. In all seriousness, put a couple of points in Shockwave and assign the power if something gets stuck in a wall or under a building. I'm not saying it's acceptable, only that there's a way to work around it. Thank you. Good advice. +100, for a solution! |
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Jun 15, 2017 18:26:06 GMT
I agree. I used to love playing as engineer in me3 and also me2 for that matter (mostly me3 though) but now in mea it's not really the same.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jun 15, 2017 19:46:49 GMT
Well then if on PC... MOD TIME! Otherwise...  |
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Post by Wintermist on Jun 15, 2017 19:55:38 GMT
Well then if on PC... MOD TIME! Otherwise... I haven't found a mod for it. I did find one to remove the cooldown but it's a workaround rather than a solution  |
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Post by Wintermist on Jun 15, 2017 20:07:58 GMT
The profile switching one, it's a workaround for this dilemma of not being able to have more skill out at once. As for more skillpoints? I don't even place all the skillpoints I get as it is now. I certainly don't need more of them. I would love to find a mod where you can use 6 skills instead of 3, without swapping favorites. |
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jun 15, 2017 20:15:56 GMT
The profile switching one, it's a workaround for this dilemma of not being able to have more skill out at once. As for more skillpoints? I don't even place all the skillpoints I get as it is now. I certainly don't need more of them. I would love to find a mod where you can use 6 skills instead of 3, without swapping favorites. So you have the profile one working? What if you have the same power on two seperate profiles in the same position does that cause the spawned drones to disappear when switching? Yeah. I can understand wanting to use 6 skills and wish for it too. Only option I can think of right now besides those two mods and maybe that option if it works -is just circle like a vulture: www.nexusmods.com/masseffectandromeda/mods/searchresults/?src_cat=15 |
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Post by Wintermist on Jun 15, 2017 20:23:42 GMT
The profile switching one, it's a workaround for this dilemma of not being able to have more skill out at once. As for more skillpoints? I don't even place all the skillpoints I get as it is now. I certainly don't need more of them. I would love to find a mod where you can use 6 skills instead of 3, without swapping favorites. So you have the profile one working? What if you have the same power on two seperate profiles in the same position does that cause the spawned drones to disappear when switching? Yeah. I can understand wanting to use 6 skills and wish for it too. Only option I can think of right now besides those two mods and maybe that option if it works -is just circle like a vulture: www.nexusmods.com/masseffectandromeda/mods/searchresults/?src_cat=15If I kept the drones on both favorites slots I wouldn't really gain anything in the end.  I'd still only be left with 1 skill hehe. It helps with other focuses but for the drones there's no good solution, sadly. |
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jun 15, 2017 20:27:11 GMT
So you have the profile one working? What if you have the same power on two seperate profiles in the same position does that cause the spawned drones to disappear when switching? Yeah. I can understand wanting to use 6 skills and wish for it too. Only option I can think of right now besides those two mods and maybe that option if it works -is just circle like a vulture: www.nexusmods.com/masseffectandromeda/mods/searchresults/?src_cat=15If I kept the drones on both favorites slots I wouldn't really gain anything in the end. I'd still only be left with 1 skill hehe. It helps with other focuses but for the drones there's no good solution, sadly. So it does reset. Bummer. |
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Post by TheInvoker on Jun 15, 2017 21:22:30 GMT
Considering melee is much more used in MEA and dash is useful i think that 4 abilities instead of 3 are eough. 5 perfect..6th not needed Ammos are now consumables (i don't like how they work but it's a different problem) Old Vanguard had 6 skills but 2 were ammos + 4 active. Soldier had 3+3 Sentinel had 6 but one was the armor that now is inside the profile. So i think 5 would be perfect and ince i use melee much more i only need 4 But 3 |
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jun 16, 2017 11:37:32 GMT
If I kept the drones on both favorites slots I wouldn't really gain anything in the end. I'd still only be left with 1 skill hehe. It helps with other focuses but for the drones there's no good solution, sadly. So it does reset. Bummer. I doubt this would help to be able to spam the drones? www.nexusmods.com/masseffectandromeda/mods/225/?
www.nexusmods.com/masseffectandromeda/mods/272/?Maybe one drone on one favorite and the other on another then alternate between them... no that defeats the purpose you are trying for. Also would it technically not be just two powers if using two favorites? I digress however since this is a drone issue taking up two and resetting if switching favorites so no that is back to one... sorry thinking as I type. Edit: Sorry wrong one but if it would help I leave it. |
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jun 16, 2017 11:37:47 GMT
Considering melee is much more used in MEA and dash is useful i think that 4 abilities instead of 3 are eough. 5 perfect..6th not needed Ammos are now consumables (i don't like how they work but it's a different problem) Old Vanguard had 6 skills but 2 were ammos + 4 active. Soldier had 3+3 Sentinel had 6 but one was the armor that now is inside the profile. So i think 5 would be perfect and ince i use melee much more i only need 4 But 3 Only one reason I can see: stupid console limiting crap.    I say give it time... some modder will figure it out... maybe I can look into it next weekend. Then I can finally get to delve into the frosty program. :amirite: Rather busy the rest of and most of next week.    |
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Post by Wintermist on Jun 16, 2017 13:11:04 GMT
Here's hoping!
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Post by xassantex on Jun 16, 2017 15:11:32 GMT
whoever can mod extra powers in SP will have an altar raised to his/her name. !
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Post by TheInvoker on Jun 16, 2017 15:11:37 GMT
Considering melee is much more used in MEA and dash is useful i think that 4 abilities instead of 3 are eough. 5 perfect..6th not needed Ammos are now consumables (i don't like how they work but it's a different problem) Old Vanguard had 6 skills but 2 were ammos + 4 active. Soldier had 3+3 Sentinel had 6 but one was the armor that now is inside the profile. So i think 5 would be perfect and ince i use melee much more i only need 4 But 3 Only one reason I can see: stupid console limiting crap. I say give it time... some modder will figure it out... maybe I can look into it next weekend. Then I can finally get to delve into the frosty program. :amirite: Rather busy the rest of and most of next week. DAI was on sonsole but we had 8 abilities!on console 4 abilities were on triangle,X,square,circle and then R1 or R2 was working like a shift,to give those buttons a different setting. they could do the same here but as i said 4 powers were eonugh and joypad has 4 buttons just there. |
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Jun 16, 2017 16:00:42 GMT
A mod for even 4 powers would make me happy.
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Post by Wulfram on Jun 16, 2017 16:23:14 GMT
I think the drones are actually most useful for a soldier or infiltrator type character, since they're relatively "fire and forget" and thus good if you want to focus on just shooting things.
The engineer was poorly thought out, too focused on constructs. Or maybe they should have made the constructs more active - let the player trigger attacks its special attacks.
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Post by Iakus on Jun 17, 2017 0:27:46 GMT
Considering melee is much more used in MEA and dash is useful i think that 4 abilities instead of 3 are eough. 5 perfect..6th not needed Ammos are now consumables (i don't like how they work but it's a different problem) Old Vanguard had 6 skills but 2 were ammos + 4 active. Soldier had 3+3 Sentinel had 6 but one was the armor that now is inside the profile. So i think 5 would be perfect and ince i use melee much more i only need 4 But 3 Only one reason I can see: stupid console limiting crap. I say give it time... some modder will figure it out... maybe I can look into it next weekend. Then I can finally get to delve into the frosty program. :amirite: Rather busy the rest of and most of next week. I'm thinking it's more a MP thing. |
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Post by Iakus on Jun 17, 2017 0:28:33 GMT
Yup, the low number of active abilities is without question one of the changes I found most annoying about ME:A. It was bad enough in DAI. Then MEA somehow found a way to make it WORSE! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 3:49:56 GMT
You know what would have been great? Some kind of special ammo skill. I have all these tech abilities and I can't have special ammo beyond consumables when my companions can? I want my own ammo. GIVE ME MY OWN AMMO that is not just a consumable for works for only a short period of time. BOO HISS
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I'd still only be left with 1 skill hehe. It helps with other focuses but for the drones there's no good solution, sadly.
