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Post by Dabrikishaw on Sept 14, 2016 23:41:08 GMT
I want the squadmates to be interesting. I'm not hung up on any one species being part of the squad. If we have two Turians and one is boring, mostly, except for loyalty missions, I'm going to stick with the more interesting one ... assuming the boring one doesn't have some unique talent (power) that is helpful on a mission. So in effect, two Turians, if one is boring, is a waste. I'm just using Turians as an example.
The same applies to Krogans, Salarians, Asari, Quarians, Volus, Elcor, Hanar, Drell or Batarians. On the other hand, having five Vorcha squadmates would be divine. As EDI would say, "that is a joke."
I'm really not into bean counting ... it is counterproductive in the extreme. If the Krogan is the most interesting character for Ryder to stomp around the universe with, then Ryder will mostly stomp around the universe with the Krogan. And all the Asari, Rachni and Yahg squadmates can just cool their species-equivalent heels on the Tempest. And it's not limited to species ... the same goes for gender and all manifestations of sexuality. I just don't give a flying crap. Unique talents (powers) that are useful more broadly ... or to a specific mission ... that's a different thing entirely.
Make all the characters interesting and I'll probably mix it up pretty well ... based on mission requirements and as I go through multiple runs of the game. Realistically, some will appeal to me, some won't ... so I'll end up with some on Ryder's missions more than others. In specific cases, it might depend on whether Ryder is the male or female version ... as to which squadmates I prefer Ryder to team with on a given run. But mostlly talents ... if a given squadmate has talents (powers) Ryder needs for a mission, then that squadmate goes with Ryder ... irrespective of the species, gender or whatever, of that particular squadmate, and irrespective of whether I find Ryder's squadmate interesting or boring.
Typically, on the first run, I go with the lowest (non-"narrative only") difficulty setting. It allows me to explore not just the story, but the talents and characteristics of the protagonist's squadmates. Experience as many conversations as I can. On subsequent runs, I amp up the difficulty and specific talents of specific squadmates becomes more important ... plus which characters I find more interesting ... so some end up "on the shelf" while others get to go out an play more frequently. Bean counting other attributes just doesn't come into play. I appreciate this type pf answer, because I do understand it. Even given my opening post I wouldn't complain if the squad-mate ratio is skewed in favor of humans to aliens. I've never been a huge fan of Garrus and Tali, while I really like Kaiden and James for example. It's all about what you like in the character given.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Sept 15, 2016 2:08:31 GMT
Depends on the size of the crew. Say there's 7. I'll go with 3 human companions and 4 non human companions. 3 out of my top 4 companions are all human (Ashley, Zaeed, Mordin and Vega) '
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Post by Silvery on Sept 15, 2016 2:12:34 GMT
The Mass Effect 1 squad setup would be fine with me, 2 humans and 4 aliens.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 15, 2016 2:18:03 GMT
The Mass Effect 1 squad setup would be fine with me, 2 humans and 4 aliens. I would be fine with that. I do remember seeing a post from someone that said we might have a synthetic squadmate. Someone can correct me if that's wrong. If that's the case it would make 7 2 human I krogan 1 maybe 2 from Andromeda 1 asari though she could only be part of the crew on the ship 1 salarian and if what I posted is correct, 1 synthetic
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 15, 2016 5:42:46 GMT
So long as there's no gotdang drell, it's all good.
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Post by Hunter on Sept 15, 2016 6:21:53 GMT
Like others have said, it's more about the quality of the character not what species they are.
What they really need to do is have the characters compliment each other well. I know that the Citadel DLC was mostly just fan service but it provided some of the best dialog in the entire trilogy. I'd like to see more conflict like with Jack and Miranda and them together at the party was great. Or two similar characters like Zaeed and Garrus hanging out. ME2 had all those great characters but we never got to see them interact together aside from a scripted "conflict scene." They all just sat in their designated spots. ME3 tried to do this a bit more but it was a bit awkward.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Sept 15, 2016 6:52:40 GMT
How many sidekicks do we have?
Only 2 humans if we have 7 sidekicks total.
3 humans max if we have 9 sidekicks.
Don't see any reason for more than 4 humans on the squad (not including Ryder) regardless of the squad size.
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Post by wright1978 on Sept 15, 2016 7:34:08 GMT
Hopefully there will be a squad of 8/9
2 or 3 Human, 1 salarian, 1 asari, 1 krogan, 1 Turian, 1 andromedan, 1 synthetic
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Post by RageUnderFire on Sept 15, 2016 8:16:54 GMT
Hopefully there will be a squad of 8/9 2 or 3 Human, 1 salarian, 1 asari, 1 krogan, 1 Turian, 1 andromedan, 1 synthetic I like the idea of our synthetic being a piece of Andromeda tech that we discover.
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Post by coldsteelblue on Sept 15, 2016 8:23:39 GMT
Don't like Humans at all, I find them rather boring, so I'd personally like as few Humans as possible.
Just my opinion
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Post by nanotm on Sept 15, 2016 9:14:07 GMT
so long as we have a huge range of skills to use like biotic charge +snap freeze it will be all good (since energy drain snap freeze cryo/fire ball Omni shield and tech armour are all Omni tool based it makes no sense that everyone cant use them) of course that will upset the pureists but i'm all for mix n match to make the most kick ass chars around, I spent most of my time in me3 reviving my squad mates after they got dropped because there so weak so I need my char to be the ultimate badass to compensate seriously though squad compostion, it makes sense to have a heavey and/or a tech and/or biotic npc's to balance out your pc's weakneses, I mean you can only charge + heavy melee so much, so how that breaks down with respect to human /alien is immaterial:P what really bothers me is the notion that were not going to have to be totally reliant on specialists from other races to perform tasks like decoding the ruins, clearly humans cant do stuff like that because were just don't have the experience or length of lives required to learn al lthat stuff to the same degree, unless we are taking some kick ass sexbot EDI clone along for the ride/
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 9:54:49 GMT
In most BW games I found the human companions the lamest. I'm the human already, give me the aliens . I think 1 human male and 1 human female is enough for me.
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Post by Elfen Lied on Sept 15, 2016 10:44:53 GMT
I expect more or less a 1:2 human/alien ratio
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Post by fruitster on Sept 15, 2016 11:10:06 GMT
3 humans maximum including Ryder, the rest aliens.
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Post by bshep on Sept 15, 2016 12:45:49 GMT
I'd like it to be somewhere between not too homogeneous and not too much "collect them all". Others have said it better. It depends on the personality of the teammates. If they're as cliche as a commercial, being an alien isn't going to save them. On the other hand, I've had less struggle talking to Mordin than Jacob because the game didn't jump ahead and act like just because we're playing human I automatically want to do him. Yeah Jacob was really weird... By the way if you keep talking to Mordin he will end up "dumping you" thinking you had sexual interest on him. I laughed a lot when i saw that scene.
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 15, 2016 13:11:44 GMT
Humans are the worst and most boring species. Two of them on the squad is more than enough. Lordedumpaliens aint better. ME1 Tali? Jeez At the moment we got 2 humans male & female, Krogan, Asari and at least 1 native-Andromedan basically guaranteed. If the 7 squadmates info is true not much room left for anyone else <<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> Agreed. I lean toward 3 Helios species in the squad. From a romance pov, 1 x Helios female, 1 x Helios male, 1 x Helios something.
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Post by Vortex13 on Sept 15, 2016 13:19:26 GMT
Humans are the worst and most boring species. Two of them on the squad is more than enough. Lordedumpaliens aint better. ME1 Tali? Jeez At the moment we got 2 humans male & female, Krogan, Asari and at least 1 native-Andromedan basically guaranteed. If the 7 squadmates info is true not much room left for anyone else I agree that walking Codexes aren't much better. Still, if I had to pick between one extreme or the other I would go with the 'alien' element over the "Let me tell you all about my daddy issues / straight or LGTB issues / my deep dark past issues Etc." any day.
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Post by Garo on Sept 15, 2016 13:42:49 GMT
I like every species in Mass Effect. It's not about species tho, it's about how interesting individuals are. So we can go all human or all alien as long we get some nice characters.
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Post by Shinobu on Sept 15, 2016 14:04:19 GMT
My RL squad is 100% human as far as I know, so I'd prefer as many aliens as possible. But I'm a filthy xeno, so YMMV.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 14:19:56 GMT
more humans on the squad. humanity #1 Humans are the worst and most boring species. Two of them on the squad is more than enough. In the ME Trilogy, aliens are really just human stereotype personalities dressed up in "alien" clothing (i.e. they just look different). To me, this makes them far more boring than any of the human characters that were given a little more depth to their character. In ME1, Garrus was a complete bore and Liara was just sexual fodder since her conversations generally hung up on Shepard lust and Asari reproduction and convos with Tali were such long info dumps that even most players I've watched on YouTube cut the convos short. Whereas, Ashley and Kaidan had far more interesting convo opportunities (i.e. one could discuss poetry and religion with Ashley and even have a common background experience with her). In ME2, they stepped up the Alien convos a bit, but their personalities were still all essentially based on human stereotypes. Mordin, the stereotypical "hyper" mad scientist, Samara, the unemotional "stoic" warrior, Garrus, the B-western style good "bada$$," etc. The humans in that game were also largely based on human stereotypes... Kelly, the "Kelly girl" secretary, Zaeed, the aging "bada$$." In ME3, they added EDI (not really an alien) and Javik (the stereotypical soldier emperor). Yes, a lot of the humans were based on human stereotypes as well... My point being that the characterizations of both are so based on human stereotypes, it doesn't matter how they draw them - human bodies or not makes no difference at all. The only difference it made for me was to essentially "turn me off" of the alien ones as potential romances. The only "alien" feeling aliens (character-wise) in the whole Trilogy were the Rachni... They weren't squad mates and, as a result, we did need to try to "relate" to them very much, so they could be modeled a little less on a human stereotype.
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Post by Monk on Sept 15, 2016 15:27:42 GMT
I want all teh hot alien babes at mah heels! Human babes are only worthy if they got some sweet badonkadonk going on. The rest can bow to the brainage and might of the mighty might of Ryder.
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Post by opuspace on Sept 15, 2016 15:50:52 GMT
I'd like it to be somewhere between not too homogeneous and not too much "collect them all". Others have said it better. It depends on the personality of the teammates. If they're as cliche as a commercial, being an alien isn't going to save them. On the other hand, I've had less struggle talking to Mordin than Jacob because the game didn't jump ahead and act like just because we're playing human I automatically want to do him. Yeah Jacob was really weird... By the way if you keep talking to Mordin he will end up "dumping you" thinking you had sexual interest on him. I laughed a lot when i saw that scene. Yeah, that's true. At least Shepard didn't go through a personality change and can honestly be surprised Mordin interpreted romantic interest. And I think that's what irks about human LIs, there's some sort of expectation that the player is supposed to be romantically interested and I resent being pushed to like what I'm supposed to be attracted to. No, I don't give a flip about Jacob's abs and no, just because Kaidan is sensitive doesn't mean I don't have criticisms about the rest of his personality.
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Post by bshep on Sept 15, 2016 15:59:39 GMT
Yeah Jacob was really weird... By the way if you keep talking to Mordin he will end up "dumping you" thinking you had sexual interest on him. I laughed a lot when i saw that scene. Yeah, that's true. At least Shepard didn't go through a personality change and can honestly be surprised Mordin interpreted romantic interest. And I think that's what irks about human LIs, there's some sort of expectation that the player is supposed to be romantically interested and I resent being pushed to like what I'm supposed to be attracted to. No, I don't give a flip about Jacob's abs and no, just because Kaidan is sensitive doesn't mean I don't have criticisms about the rest of his personality. I do prefer Tali romantic dalliance but to be fair both Miranda and Jack were also good. Thane was cool too and i haven't saw Garrus. But yeah, the human male LI where kind of weird(Jacob) and boring(Kaidan).
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Post by opuspace on Sept 15, 2016 16:09:55 GMT
I do prefer Tali romantic dalliance but to be fair both Miranda and Jack were also good. Thane was cool too and i haven't saw Garrus. But yeah, the human male LI where kind of weird(Jacob) and boring(Kaidan). I wouldn't say Jacob and Kaidan's romances were boring; They were very in depth and explored aspects of relationships that are still evolving in games. Jacob's was the first where he asks how Shepard is holding up and will rebuff her if the wrong dialogue is picked while Kaidan's is a long developed one over the trilogy that has subtle changes in dialogue depending on whether Shepard was single during ME2 or not. They're both good, just not my type and while I sympathize with their fans on having to hear that they're boring, a few I've seen can have an obnoxious elitist attitude in treating fans of the alien romances as though their judgment is defective.
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 15, 2016 16:20:51 GMT
So are humans boring because they're humans, or because the writers don't seem to have much for many of them to do or say? I think this notion is silly. If Jacob was a turian, but written exactly the same, he'd still be on par with watching paint dry.
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