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Post by brfritos on Jul 2, 2017 23:48:05 GMT
Doing the DLCs for example is out of the question, since they flood Shepard with resources. I have completed From Ashes dlc while still having my ems below 1750. Don't collect the packets in the dlc. The player will receive 25 war assets instead of 100
Oh yes, From Ashes in a DLC, I always forget.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 3, 2017 1:00:27 GMT
Doing the DLCs for example is out of the question, since they flood Shepard with resources. I have completed From Ashes dlc while still having my ems below 1750. Don't collect the packets in the dlc. The player will receive 25 war assets instead of 100 Is this the "help Eden Prime resistance" data packets?
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Post by themikefest on Jul 3, 2017 1:28:18 GMT
Is this the "help Eden Prime resistance" data packets? Yes.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Jul 3, 2017 3:49:09 GMT
1. What's up with the hard on against Liara? If you want to make all-in-one Asari, could you at least make her at least consistent? Also who the fuck think she has the right to represent the Normandy? She doesn't have any rank, doesn't have any official capacity on the ship. She's an archeologist who turn crime lord! Where's Shepard?
2. Why didn't Garrus have his own arc in ME3? He only matters on Menae when you want him to lead him to Victus but he have absolutely no involvement in Turian-Krogan alliance, no involvement with the Turian platoon arc, he didn't even have a special scene in C-Sec HQ. He ended up being Shepard's pet who whined about how its all in the grey and he's too dumb to think about it by himself. It was either that or have him dead just to see more content. For a fan favourite, that was strange.
3. Why ruin Ashley? Not talking about the horrible Kardashian makeover. She could have taken Vega's place and it would give her more personality than the "every decision I ever made is wrong one" self-pitying drunkard.
4. Why not just show that the kid Catalyst is really Harbinger? The clue is there. Why the decision is timed since Shepard was transported directly from the beam, why it needed to persuade Shepard with words rather than forcing Shepard to choose. Why it didn't attack Shepard.
At least they did it right with Valkorion.
5. Why make ME2 solely about fixing the existential crisis of 12 mostly adult squadmates and try to sell that as content. Why remove Reaper threat completely including the Collectors who should be the big bad since Terminus was being invaded. Why didn't put either Ashley or Kaidan in Arrival DLC? And there's a Derelict Reaper in ME2 and why didn't Shepard use it as evidence to the council that Reapers exist?
and why I need to headcanon shits just to make sense of the trilogy?
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 3, 2017 13:02:23 GMT
aoibhealfae: Just some thoughts on one or two of your questions. 4. The Catalyst isn't Harbinger. If you pay attention to Leviathan dlc, it talks of an "Intelligence" that the Leviathans had made. That's the Catalyst. The "Intelligence" attacked the Leviathans and from them created the first Reaper - Harbinger. 5. The derelict Reaper fell into the gas giant it was orbiting. It was probably a bit difficult to convince anyone to go searching in its atmosphere to find it. As to why not VS on Arrival, probably because it was a secret, non-Alliance Hackett mission. He would have had to full them from whatever their assignment was to send them on an unofficial mission. How would that work?
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Post by aoibhealfae on Jul 3, 2017 15:06:03 GMT
The trouble with the ME3 ending, it was so abrupt and the "Catalyst" intentions are too subtle and too ambiguous. Bioware doesn't even straight up tell you that Shepard is invulnerable to indoctrination despite throwing that word everywhere and you can't actually confirm or contradict what the "Catalyst" said. Does it make sense for a fledgling Artificial Intelligence that killed its Creator species to create another sentient mind from their corpses? What would that accomplish when it could use the body as its own. Does it made sense for the Catalyst who called itself the Master of the Reapers, to be confined and dormant inside Citadel the entire time for thousands/millions of years? It think itself as a God. If Harbinger is powerful enough to control the Collectors from the deep space to the core of Milky Way and indoctrinate the Batarians and thousands others... why wouldn't it be powerful enough to conjure a vision of a boy that Shepard kept having nightmares about to try to break Shepard into not trying to kill it? And in Refuse ending, it drop the childish+Shepard voice. This is why I said Bioware did right with Valkorion. The entire time he tried to make you into think he could be trusted. To believe everything he said that he was your friend and your master. To believe that he want you to take the throne, to be worshiped as the savior of the galaxy, to make you kill his children and his wife because they all couldn't be trusted... and everything that came out of his mouth is all plain lies and you're an idiot fool to trust him and he wanted to kill you for ruining his plans.... and outright calling you stupid for believing in him... Shepard found a huge ass dead Reaper in the Milky Way. Shepard take pictures and make recordings of what happened and covertly send everything including the coordinate to Anderson or Council. Even destroyed, there should still be remains of radiation and scattered evidence that could easily picked up by scanners. The thing sat there for millions of years... its orbit should decay exponentially and if it was that near, it would already be absorbed even before Cerberus track it. If you read the codex entry for Aratoht system, there's multiple entries that said Alliance does have presence in that system; either for clandestine or sabotage. Dr Kenson was an Alliance scientist and her personnel should be attached to Alliance as well. Does it sound right for anyone to do nothing when Shepard who never do solo operations suddenly went missing for days. Kaidan was in Special Operations, either he or Ashley should have been there, infiltrating Project Base and saving Shepard. This should also be the right reason why Alliance protected Shepard from the aftermath.. since Shepard assumed all blame and refuse to implicate Alliance further that could lead humanity to another galactic war with the Batarians, thus making a better bridge to ME3.
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Post by sil on Jul 3, 2017 15:11:02 GMT
Shepard found a huge ass dead Reaper in the Milky Way. Shepard take pictures and make recordings of what happened and covertly send everything including the coordinate to Anderson or Council. The problem is that Shepard can't even access his private email on his Omni-Tool, how he'd take photo's of anything is beyond my understanding
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 3, 2017 17:43:28 GMT
The trouble with the ME3 ending, it was so abrupt and the "Catalyst" intentions are too subtle and too ambiguous. Bioware doesn't even straight up tell you that Shepard is invulnerable to indoctrination despite throwing that word everywhere and you can't actually confirm or contradict what the "Catalyst" said. Does it make sense for a fledgling Artificial Intelligence that killed its Creator species to create another sentient mind from their corpses? What would that accomplish when it could use the body as its own. Does it made sense for the Catalyst who called itself the Master of the Reapers, to be confined and dormant inside Citadel the entire time for thousands/millions of years? It think itself as a God. If Harbinger is powerful enough to control the Collectors from the deep space to the core of Milky Way and indoctrinate the Batarians and thousands others... why wouldn't it be powerful enough to conjure a vision of a boy that Shepard kept having nightmares about to try to break Shepard into not trying to kill it? And in Refuse ending, it drop the childish+Shepard voice. Shepard found a huge ass dead Reaper in the Milky Way. Shepard take pictures and make recordings of what happened and covertly send everything including the coordinate to Anderson or Council. Even destroyed, there should still be remains of radiation and scattered evidence that could easily picked up by scanners. The thing sat there for millions of years... its orbit should decay exponentially and if it was that near, it would already be absorbed even before Cerberus track it. If you read the codex entry for Aratoht system, there's multiple entries that said Alliance does have presence in that system; either for clandestine or sabotage. Dr Kenson was an Alliance scientist and her personnel should be attached to Alliance as well. Does it sound right for anyone to do nothing when Shepard who never do solo operations suddenly went missing for days. Kaidan was in Special Operations, either he or Ashley should have been there, infiltrating Project Base and saving Shepard. This should also be the right reason why Alliance protected Shepard from the aftermath.. since Shepard assumed all blame and refuse to implicate Alliance further that could lead humanity to another galactic war with the Batarians, thus making a better bridge to ME3. From my standpoint, it doesn't make sense to create a new mind from the corpses of its creator race (or any other race). In its mind, it is "saving" each individual species in Reaper form - thus, organic life is preserved, just not in its original form. I'm not sure "confined" is an appropriate term. You're thinking in terms of a person, who would go crazy if he or she remained in one spot for eternity. The Catalyst is different. It's there waiting for the next wave of organic life forms to arise in order to harvest them. The theory that the Reapers are dormant in dark space could easily be true of the Catalyst in the 50,000 years between cycles. It may only wake up when the Keeper signal is sent to open the relay. I agree that the Catalyst thinks itself a god. That's why it can dictate the fate of all life in the Milky Way Galaxy. That said, it's programming is based on the Leviathans, who definitely believed themselves gods and that all sentient beings (organic or synthetic) should bend to their will. There's a difference between Collectors and Shepard, namely that the Collectors have been genetically multiple times over the past 50,000 years. Perhaps the modification was simply to make them serve the Reapers but more likely is that their higher brain functions were eliminated so that they had no resistance. Since the Collectors could not fully act independently, they were easily taken control of. Shepard has a will of his own. That's much harder to overwhelm. Agree on the pictures and video. That should have happened and put an end to any questioning. That said, in the Citadel Archives, it outright states that the Council believed Shepard. That information is not available to the public, instead only switching on when Spectre status is noted. Why the Council claimed not to believe Shepard is the real issue with the game. Total contradiction. However, the reason the derelict Reaper didn't fall into Mnemosyne sooner is because its core was intact. As soon as we destroy it, the whole thing starts falling into the atmosphere to be destroyed. I can think of a reason to only send Shepard to rescue Kenson, and that reason is plausible deniability. If only Shepard goes in - a person who is currently working with Cerberus and not the Alliance - the Alliance can and will disavow any actions Shepard takes in the event of mission failure (captured or killed). If you add in Kaidan or Ashley, it is now an official Alliance op. There are obviously flaws in how this all went down but at least in some instances I can come up with reasonable explanations. Yes, we can all say "they should have been explicit" but we all know how it goes with minimizing explanations to cut down on game time.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 3, 2017 20:00:42 GMT
5. The derelict Reaper fell into the gas giant it was orbiting. It was probably a bit difficult to convince anyone to go searching in its atmosphere to find it. As to why not VS on Arrival, probably because it was a secret, non-Alliance Hackett mission. He would have had to full them from whatever their assignment was to send them on an unofficial mission. How would that work? It would not be hard. Hackett can say he hasn't heard from Shepard for over 48 hours. Pulls A/K off whatever assignment they were on and have them find Shepard.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 3, 2017 20:08:04 GMT
For the derelict reaper. The edi hologram is able to scan the collector base to determine what would be the best route to infiltrate. It even sends scans of the base to TIM who says use a timed-radiation pulse to keep the goodies intact.
Why couldn't that happen for the derelict reaper? Shepard tells the hologram to send the scans to Alliance HQ for them to study to see if there's a weakness that could help when the reapers show up.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 3, 2017 21:38:16 GMT
5. The derelict Reaper fell into the gas giant it was orbiting. It was probably a bit difficult to convince anyone to go searching in its atmosphere to find it. As to why not VS on Arrival, probably because it was a secret, non-Alliance Hackett mission. He would have had to full them from whatever their assignment was to send them on an unofficial mission. How would that work? It would not be hard. Hackett can say he hasn't heard from Shepard for over 48 hours. Pulls A/K off whatever assignment they were on and have them find Shepard. Well, sure, but why would he have heard from Shepard? Shepard was working with Cerberus. According to the Council, that was grounds for treason.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 3, 2017 21:50:59 GMT
Well, sure, but why would he have heard from Shepard? Shepard was working with Cerberus. According to the Council, that was grounds for treason. Then why did he ask Shepard to get Kenson if Shepard is working with Cerberus?
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 4, 2017 1:44:49 GMT
Well, sure, but why would he have heard from Shepard? Shepard was working with Cerberus. According to the Council, that was grounds for treason. Then why did he ask Shepard to get Kenson if Shepard is working with Cerberus? He indicated it was a private mission, a favor. It was off the books. Hackett and Anderson always trusted Shepard but the Council and Alliance Council had other ideas.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 4, 2017 1:55:15 GMT
He indicated it was a private mission, a favor. It was off the books. Hackett and Anderson always trusted Shepard but the Council and Alliance Council had other ideas. So? Say the same to A/K. In regards what the council thinks. I don't care. Hackett and Anderson trust Shepard? Is that why Hackett failed to tell Shepard that Cerberus might be on Mars? Or why Anderson couldn't say anything about A/K in ME2?
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Post by sil on Jul 4, 2017 6:26:52 GMT
Hackett could barely communicate with them when he told them about Mars, and he was fighting a retreat against near immortal machines. I think he's justified in skipping past notifying Shepard that Cerberus might be there in force.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 4, 2017 14:12:24 GMT
Hackett could barely communicate with them when he told them about Mars, and he was fighting a retreat against near immortal machines. I think he's justified in skipping past notifying Shepard that Cerberus might be there in force. But he's able to tell Shepard they can't win conventionally. Like that was important at that moment
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Post by sil on Jul 4, 2017 15:08:27 GMT
Hackett could barely communicate with them when he told them about Mars, and he was fighting a retreat against near immortal machines. I think he's justified in skipping past notifying Shepard that Cerberus might be there in force. But he's able to tell Shepard they can't win conventionally. Like that was important at that moment I think that was more to reinforce it for the players
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Post by themikefest on Jul 4, 2017 15:12:25 GMT
I think that was more to reinforce it for the players That could have been said when talking with Hackett after Mars.
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Post by Darth Dennis on Jul 4, 2017 16:21:34 GMT
"Which one of you blithering idiots designed Kai Leng?"
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Post by sageoflife on Jul 5, 2017 7:43:02 GMT
I would ask why Liara apparently made zero effort to keep the rest of the SR1's crew in the loop about the Lazarus Project before or after she found out that it worked.
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Post by geth47 on Jul 6, 2017 14:57:34 GMT
Maybe because she would not want to fill them with false hope in case it did not work after everybody already accepted that shepard died.
Remember, while Shepard was re-animated, he/she still needed about 2 years to fully recover.
If I were in her shoes I would probably remain quiet too. After all, Shepard is comatose at best, may never awake, may awake and have severe mental retardation due to neurological trauma, may have personality alterations... Better to leave it quiet.
Also, when it comes to the virmire survivor, kaidan/ashley would probably have to report it to the alliance if one of them caught wind of this. This involved cerberus and illegal experiments. Liara could potentially be arrested if the alliance became aware that she assisted cerberus with scientific experiments that are illegal at best (theft of a corpse) and immoral/ethically reproved at worse (medical experiments on a body without prior consent of the recipient or close relatives and later on we would even discover that this involved cloning too for possible harvesting of replacement organs).
Liara appeared to act thinking that a slim hope was better than no hope at all.
Besides, people doubted her theories about the protheans and the cycles of mass extinctions during all of her life. Based on what she tells in ME1, she has a reputation as a dreamer, delusioned, fantasising immature young girl. She could probably anticipate the dismissive scorn and distrust she would have received from the others. I think her behavior was entirely consistent for someone ridiculed and dismissed for her entire life as being delusional and overly-imaginative, not to mention that selling the hope of shepard being alive would be to re-open freshly closed wounds. I would have done the same.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 6, 2017 21:23:41 GMT
Maybe because she would not want to fill them with false hope in case it did not work after everybody already accepted that shepard died. Would she have kept that to herself if Shepard never returned? If Cerberus wasn't able to bring Shepard back, they probably return the bady to the Alliance and probably mention Liara knew. What do you think the reaction from everyone be knowing she never mentioned it to anyone? It might end up being worst than if she spoke up right away? The worse part is Shepard can't ask her why she didn't tell anyone? If the roles were reversed, would Liara be upset to learn her mother wasn't told? Had she mentioned it, would the scene on Horizon between Shepard and A/K be different? Don't know. The conversation with Anderson most likely be different.
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Post by geth47 on Jul 6, 2017 21:45:29 GMT
I am not sure if Cerberus would have returned the body. Even if the reanimation failed, they would probably use a clone, because TIM was confident that shepard was a powerful symbol. Part of the reason why he tried to dismiss shepard from contacting any of his previous contacts from the normandy crew (aside from anderson) may be because he feared that they might detect any alterations in shepards behavior due to the reanimation process.
For the general public, just the public facade of shepard might be enough. The image, the face. For his/her closest allies, things are not so superficially easy.
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Post by auu on Jul 7, 2017 4:51:58 GMT
Why Kai Leng?
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Post by sil on Jul 7, 2017 5:30:52 GMT
He was in the third novel and wasn't a cyber-ninja in that, he was just a ruthless, former N7, assassin who was a also an alien hating dickhead. So they got the dickhead bit correct.
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