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Post by ahglock on Jun 11, 2020 21:13:51 GMT
Definitely the Geth, I miss all the talk about this subject. The game files suggest otherwise: bsn.boards.net/post/864634/threadCharacterName: Mysterious Benefactor
Gender: Female
Character description: A character in the Alec Ryder memory flashbacks. This is the Mysterious Benefactor -- the secret backer of the entire Andromeda Initiative who original hired Alec. She's a woman, though her face will remain hidden in this game and we'll only hear her voice.
Race: Human
Character Type: Major
AgeRange: 45 My personal opinion is they have and had no idea who the benefactor was yet.
I would be shocked if it is a gendered being if it were male though. If Garson had been male it could be either, but with Garosn being female they can't have a male being the person behind the scenes that completed the initiative.
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Post by parsival on Jul 27, 2020 19:57:19 GMT
A clone of the Illusive Man - we know Cerberus has the technology. He could have had his memories implanted into the clone too. I suppose, if we want to throw a curveball in, he could with a bit of genetic manipulation make himself a female clone - more like a twin sister, perhaps, but good enough to keep his genes passing through history.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Aug 2, 2020 9:52:11 GMT
A clone of the Illusive Man - we know Cerberus has the technology. He could have had his memories implanted into the clone too. I suppose, if we want to throw a curveball in, he could with a bit of genetic manipulation make himself a female clone - more like a twin sister, perhaps, but good enough to keep his genes passing through history. I really hope they don't do anything with clones again. The Shepard clone was enough for me.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 17, 2020 3:47:22 GMT
A clone of the Illusive Man - we know Cerberus has the technology. He could have had his memories implanted into the clone too. I suppose, if we want to throw a curveball in, he could with a bit of genetic manipulation make himself a female clone - more like a twin sister, perhaps, but good enough to keep his genes passing through history. His ego is way too big to allow there to be another one of him out there.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 27, 2020 10:56:09 GMT
A Volus. Noone would ever combine "greedy bastard" with "benefactor" making it a perfect cover. Some Elkoss sprout maybe. First in Andromeda market to secure monopoly sounds like something a ruthless Volus would go for.
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Post by Phantom on Aug 27, 2020 17:22:20 GMT
A clone of the Illusive Man - we know Cerberus has the technology. He could have had his memories implanted into the clone too. I suppose, if we want to throw a curveball in, he could with a bit of genetic manipulation make himself a female clone - more like a twin sister, perhaps, but good enough to keep his genes passing through history. His ego is way too big to allow there to be another one of him out there. or having Clone of himself to re-start Cerberus in Andromeda would fit as well.
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Post by Phantom on Aug 27, 2020 17:25:34 GMT
A Volus. Noone would ever combine "greedy bastard" with "benefactor" making it a perfect cover. Some Elkoss sprout maybe. First in Andromeda market to secure monopoly sounds like something a ruthless Volus would go for. Well Volus make more sense than Cerberus. For pure salt, Always Cerberus, for sensible story, A Volus makes sense.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 28, 2020 0:15:24 GMT
His ego is way too big to allow there to be another one of him out there. or having Clone of himself to re-start Cerberus in Andromeda would fit as well. See, I'm not so sure. Again, TIM's ego wouldn't allow for there to be another one of him. At best, I could imagine him mind controlling an agent in Andromeda to do as he would do. Maybe sort of TIM but it would never think it was TIM.
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Post by Phantom on Aug 28, 2020 1:08:27 GMT
or having Clone of himself to re-start Cerberus in Andromeda would fit as well. See, I'm not so sure. Again, TIM's ego wouldn't allow for there to be another one of him. At best, I could imagine him mind controlling an agent in Andromeda to do as he would do. Maybe sort of TIM but it would never think it was TIM. Only One that ever truly advocated(while not indoctrinated) mind control is Miranda yet T.I.M shot that down and booted those wanted to do a hivemind with Computer Research out. Also having a Clone of T.I.M. with Memories while being free of Indoctrination might be an interesting plot thread. In order to Rebuild Cerberus in Andromeda in full without Reapers influence. We all know that Reaper Indoctrination does mess with Free Will, So Cerberus were in fully compromised within ME3 despite their actions in previous games. Personally I rather have a new several New Factions that replaced Cerberus within ME3 due to events within ME:Retribution. Also I rather have The Benefactor not be Cerberus and I would love a proper ME:A prequel that basicly states Cerberus is not the Benefactor. If There was a Cerberus Player Character that is within the said ME:A prequel that shows how Cerberus was indirectly helping Alec Ryder and the others without their knowledge.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 28, 2020 1:15:59 GMT
The benefactor is the refund guy.
TIM has a clone? Yes he does. It was his clone that was on the Citadel. The real TIM is at his other headquarters for Cerberus that no one knows about. Cerberus will rise to it's former greatness. Remember what TIM said. Cerberus isn't just an organization or the people behind it. Cerberus is an idea. That idea is not so easily destroyed.
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Post by Phantom on Aug 28, 2020 2:25:54 GMT
The benefactor is the refund guy. TIM has a clone? Yes he does. It was his clone that was on the Citadel. The real TIM is at his other headquarters for Cerberus that no one knows about. Cerberus will rise to it's former greatness. Remember what TIM said. Cerberus isn't just an organization or the people behind it. Cerberus is an idea. That idea is not so easily destroyed.Well I do support a Cerberus Player Character for future mass effect games.
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Post by ahglock on Aug 30, 2020 1:45:52 GMT
A Volus. Noone would ever combine "greedy bastard" with "benefactor" making it a perfect cover. Some Elkoss sprout maybe. First in Andromeda market to secure monopoly sounds like something a ruthless Volus would go for. Well Volus make more sense than Cerberus. For pure salt, Always Cerberus, for sensible story, A Volus makes sense. Cerberus makes about as much sense as the benefactor as a human Gien Garson being the founder. They like making humans the stars.
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Post by Phantom on Aug 30, 2020 1:59:25 GMT
Well Volus make more sense than Cerberus. For pure salt, Always Cerberus, for sensible story, A Volus makes sense. Cerberus makes about as much sense as the benefactor as a human Gien Garson being the founder. They like making humans the stars. True. as much as I would love it for Cerberus having a major role in making Andromeda Project successful, I do wonder what if the fan base would react if that was the case having Cerberus being helpful to the project. I am up for a ME:A prequel to address the Benefactor
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Post by ahglock on Aug 30, 2020 2:07:54 GMT
Cerberus makes about as much sense as the benefactor as a human Gien Garson being the founder. They like making humans the stars. True. as much as I would love it for Cerberus having a major role in making Andromeda Project successful, I do wonder what if the fan base would react if that was the case having Cerberus being helpful to the project. I am up for a ME:A prequel to address the Benefactor I still think bioware never really had a plan/answer for this. They probably had a few possible options but might go with none of them. I'd like it to be Cerberus just because I know it would irritate people and they remind me of Cobra form GiJoe and that's awesome, but the most logical one for me story wise is the Asari which would irritate other people so that may be just as good. Roll back to ME3 at the fall of Thessia the matriarch said they had made plans for the continuation of civilization. Only Asari would be dumb enough to bring Krogan.
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Post by Phantom on Sept 1, 2020 17:48:41 GMT
True. as much as I would love it for Cerberus having a major role in making Andromeda Project successful, I do wonder what if the fan base would react if that was the case having Cerberus being helpful to the project. I am up for a ME:A prequel to address the Benefactor I still think bioware never really had a plan/answer for this. They probably had a few possible options but might go with none of them. I'd like it to be Cerberus just because I know it would irritate people and they remind me of Cobra form GiJoe and that's awesome, but the most logical one for me story wise is the Asari which would irritate other people so that may be just as good. Roll back to ME3 at the fall of Thessia the matriarch said they had made plans for the continuation of civilization. Only Asari would be dumb enough to bring Krogan. Asari and Volus make sense. Also For pure lolzy, it is a Vorcha as The Benefactor. I do think that ME:A prequel and ME:A sequel should be tied by Mama Ryder. I have a rough idea that a Cerberus Phantom meets Mama Ryder and gives her a biotic amp implant that helps her out in a ME:A prequel and sets her up as a ME:A sequel Player Character. My ME:A prequel will be fairly large and told from the Cerberus Phantom's Point of View and heavily deals with a New Reaper Faction that are helping the Collectors and striving to destroy the Andromeda Project. The first half is all about saving the Andromeda Project from the New Reaper Faction and encounters with Notable ME:A NPCs and doing sidequest related to them. Second half is about running interfere for Cerberus in order for Shepard and His crew to successfully do the Suicide mission against the Collectors and the New Reaper Faction.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 1, 2020 19:30:30 GMT
I do think that ME:A prequel and ME:A sequel should be tied by Mama Ryder. I have a rough idea that a Cerberus Phantom meets Mama Ryder and gives her a biotic amp implant that helps her out in a ME:A prequel and sets her up as a ME:A sequel Player Character. What if your Cerberus Phantom and Mama Ryder had an affair? What if Father Ryder found out and decided to kill his wife? At the last minute his conscious gets the best of him, so he decides to put her on ice for the journey to Andromeda? He uses that time to figure a way to approach his wife about her cheating on him. Unfortunately for him, he dies.
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Post by Phantom on Sept 1, 2020 19:40:30 GMT
I do think that ME:A prequel and ME:A sequel should be tied by Mama Ryder. I have a rough idea that a Cerberus Phantom meets Mama Ryder and gives her a biotic amp implant that helps her out in a ME:A prequel and sets her up as a ME:A sequel Player Character. What if your Cerberus Phantom and Mama Ryder had an affair? What if Father Ryder found out and decided to kill his wife? At the last minute his conscious gets the best of him, so he decides to put her on ice for the journey to Andromeda? He uses that time to figure a way to approach his wife about her cheating on him. Unfortunately for him, he dies. Well Cerberus Phantom is an lonely older man still mourning the loss of his entire family and he would see that as an option for Renegade players. You might like this option due to Peebee's behavior, you can call her out on her bullshit either peacefully or violently(think broken jaw) after you saved her life.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Sept 9, 2020 13:31:27 GMT
THE ILLUSIVE WOMAN.
MEA2: Ryder "dies" and revives via "impossible means", meets the Benefactor, a woman with mysterious motivations. Ryder yells at her "You ruined everything. Jien Garson is dead because of you!" She makes a proposition: "Colonists are getting ill. I think I know how to stop this. I know you don't like me but you need my help, and I need yours."
And then MEA Trilogy is table-scraps of the Trilogy and the unnused Dark Energy subplot that is now about the Scourge, and BioWare shamelessly pretends this is their own original concept and never admits Drew Karpyshyn meant it for the Trilogy in interviews etc.
You wanna know why I don't want MEA2? I know BioWare will do this, or something similar to it. It was all primed and ready to go in MEA.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Oct 12, 2020 20:35:38 GMT
The Benefactor is...a cabal of the Citadel Council, Cerberus, the geth, the quarians, and the Shadow Broker (probably more the yarhg than Liara but she helped where she could) each adding something different. The Council had the people and the money. Cerberus had the tech, the geth had the scans, the quarians had the experience with long space trips, and the Shadow Broker had the organizational set up.
Because of the Council stating that Cerberus was a terrorist group and the geth were a hostile race and the quarians were vagabonds and the Shadow Broker was a secret only known to the Milky Way Galaxy's most powerful people, it was kept a secret probably from each other, because if the people of the MWG found out that the Council was dealing with a terrorist group and a hostile race for a plan to colonize another galaxy in the event of a galaxy wide apocalypse by a threat the Council has dismissed as the human ambassador said: "Does the words political shitstorm mean anything to you?" Yeah that would be a political shitstorm and a half!
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Post by Phantom on Oct 12, 2020 21:58:20 GMT
The Benefactor is...a cabal of the Citadel Council, Cerberus, the geth, the quarians, and the Shadow Broker (probably more the yarhg than Liara but she helped where she could) each adding something different. The Council had the people and the money. Cerberus had the tech, the geth had the scans, the quarians had the experience with long space trips, and the Shadow Broker had the organizational set up.
Because of the Council stating that Cerberus was a terrorist group and the geth were a hostile race and the quarians were vagabonds and the Shadow Broker was a secret only known to the Milky Way Galaxy's most powerful people, it was kept a secret probably from each other, because if the people of the MWG found out that the Council was dealing with a terrorist group and a hostile race for a plan to colonize another galaxy in the event of a galaxy wide apocalypse by a threat the Council has dismissed as the human ambassador said: "Does the words political shitstorm mean anything to you?" Yeah that would be a political shitstorm and a half!
That would be interesting if that was the case with all of those factions working together unknowingly.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Oct 19, 2020 17:39:50 GMT
A clone of the Illusive Man THE ILLUSIVE WOMAN (for christ's sake!)
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Post by Vel on Oct 22, 2020 4:13:30 GMT
THE ILLUSIVE WOMAN (for christ's sake!) I for one would love to find out who Jack Harper's mysterious heir or direct descendent is, how s/he found a way to Andromeda, and whether we can romance him/her this time. The Benefactor is...a cabal of the Citadel Council, Cerberus, the geth, the quarians, and the Shadow Broker (probably more the yarhg than Liara but she helped where she could) each adding something different. The Council had the people and the money. Cerberus had the tech, the geth had the scans, the quarians had the experience with long space trips, and the Shadow Broker had the organizational set up. Yes please, a pretty enjoyable DLC can be made out of this.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 22, 2020 15:16:50 GMT
I for one would love to find out who Jack Harper's mysterious heir or direct descendent is, how s/he found a way to Andromeda, and whether we can romance him/her this time. Cora Harper becomes TIW. Here's a scenario explaining how that happens.
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