Norway's all female special forces group

No.

Let them die alongside actual soldiers.

They're talking about putting them in unique situations. Think of us as helping insurgents in a foreign country, and we need soldiers to help make connections with the locals. Women might actually be a huge boon in such an endeavor. We're not talking infantry here, but support. 


Edit- let me clear, I'm put off by seeing women put themselves in mortal danger, but given the egalitarian culture I live in, I have to concede them the choice. 

soo you want to take a chick to somewhere like Afghanistan where women are chattel and use them to gather intel and don't conceive of any problems with that ? 

if you need women to help you ask civilian contractors if they want to risk it for some cash and surround them with a protection force, you don't give arms to one of your own and send them off to infiltrate a group that prefers to rape interlopers and then slit their throats when they get bored, or hold them hostage so rescue teams can get chewed up in ambush after ambush and still have blokes volunteering to go in wave after wave.....

yeah cos that didn't already cost lives in Iraq when support personnel got kidnapped from "safe zones" .... 

It didn't work but that's my point.

Anomalies are anomalies.

But what if it simply involves them interacting with the local population and securing trust between a liberating force and their oppressors? Believe me, I'm well aware of Scandinavian lala land when it comes to regressive ideas. But they might have a valid idea here. 

Then they aren't any better than the American female reservists in my eye.

They are half soldiers being propped up as special operations.

not really, you just hire contractors who do that as a day job you don't form a new group of half trained half capable folks to do it....

also nobody trusts outsiders or conquerors, the big mistake with Afghanistan was that the front line fighting force was kept in situe instead of moving with the fighting line and having new fresh stabilisation forces moved in who haven't lived through the fighting, then they can run initiatives like rebuilding playing football with the kids and setting up schools policing the streets distributing aid and so on...

deciding that the local females wont talk to you because of barbaric legal systems is any one to fix, you just make examples out of a few handsy blokes and enforce a new way of doing things like no bin bag on head and your worth as much as the man is ..... after a few weeks of proving your point they will come around, instead its all about "cultural respect" for something your trying to stamp out the mind boggles ....

Contractors? No way. I'll take the well trained female soldiers. 

Well trained being a relative term here tbh

if you want well trained then your looking at a minimum of 18 months training and a lot better training than that outlined, if that final test was the entrance test to the program it wouldn't be quite as bad but your going to want special operators for that sort of mission, birds who can drop 3 people with nothing more than their bare hands lethally in seconds who are as capable as the males and not because you lowered the bar to let them compete....

a contractor will get you the same result without the expense of running that program that breaks 90+% of entrants and costs a shit load to run, also you need to train them in multiple environments including dessert jungle temperate mountain and winter (ok so they get the last two at home) for that you need lots of funding and lots of trainers.... and what do you do with those that wash out ? well you save the top of the line jap slapping classes for last ...

the headlines and the posters are great but their not combat effectives they require more support not less and just being able to shoot straight is no use, they have to be unarmed if there going to infiltrate the community and gain the upper hand, they need to be able to survive wearing the local garb need language training demolitions training and at the end of the day there going in unsupported and likely to end up dead, so they best not have any family...

if you hire a contractor they already have the requisite skills and take the job knowing the risks so whatever happens you don't need to rescue them because you already paid them their fee .... which makes them disposable assets that you'd prefer not to loose but wont loose any sleep over it /

Ah Internet, never change.

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