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Post by maximusarael020 on Jun 28, 2017 2:46:42 GMT
I like a little context with my internet links. Explain, please?
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Post by rolenka on Jun 28, 2017 3:01:31 GMT
It's a jab about the SJW thing people have been talking about here for months.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 28, 2017 4:02:24 GMT
The Onion is satire and the whole SJW needs to be satirized because it's ridiculous. It was a concocted excuse to attack writers about intent instead of execution. For the most part, BioWare really tries to get this right. It's important to them to show diversity and it sets them apart from a lot of other studios. Their marketing division did more of a disservice to BioWare's brand than any author, writer or developer. As far as leads go, I'm appalled they didn't eject Manveer Heir out of Montreal when the tweets were so obviously racist and yet, "supported" by Flynn. This fueled a hate train that was going to crash the Andromeda party unless it was damn near perfect. And it wasn't. The train wreck that ensued was all the justification needed by YouTube's click-bait community to cash in. Looking forward, I'm glad Heir is gone. I hope Sam Maggs hits an early home run so the haters can find another target. I want to romanticize the notion that BioWare is an art studio, filled with writers, musicians, artists and directors. I've finally arrived to the conclusion that it's a production studio that needs to meet quotas, deadlines and juggle issues like field triage. It's still full of artsy people, but just as important, developers that translate all those one-dimensional artifacts onto the Frostbite canvas. Those guys just went through fire and brimstone. Nothing has been handed to them except challenges. And yet, I'm down for Andromeda DLC not because I'm a fanboy, because I'm wanting more of the good stuff.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 28, 2017 4:23:04 GMT
The Onion is satire and the whole SJW needs to be satirized because it's ridiculous. It was a concocted excuse to attack writers about intent instead of execution. For the most part, BioWare really tries to get this right. It's important to them to show diversity and it sets them apart from a lot of other studios. Their marketing division did more of a disservice to BioWare's brand than any author, writer or developer. As far as leads go, I'm appalled they didn't eject Manveer Heir out of Montreal when the tweets were so obviously racist and yet, "supported" by Flynn. This fueled a hate train that was going to crash the Andromeda party unless it was damn near perfect. And it wasn't. The train wreck that ensued was all the justification needed by YouTube's click-bait community to cash in. Looking forward, I'm glad Heir is gone. I hope Sam Maggs hits an early home run so the haters can find another target. I want to romanticize the notion that BioWare is an art studio, filled with writers, musicians, artists and directors. I've finally arrived to the conclusion that it's a production studio that needs to meet quotas, deadlines and juggle issues like field triage. It's still full of artsy people, but just as important, developers that translate all those one-dimensional artifacts onto the Frostbite canvas. Those guys just went through fire and brimstone. Nothing has been handed to them except challenges. And yet, I'm down for Andromeda DLC not because I'm a fanboy, because I'm wanting more of the good stuff. its something i give them a lot of props for. Look at how bioware deals with things like this compared to Doctor Who (for instance), love the show but som of the stuff they do for diversity is kind of cringe worthy.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 28, 2017 4:24:18 GMT
The Onion is satire and the whole SJW needs to be satirized because it's ridiculous. It was a concocted excuse to attack writers about intent instead of execution. For the most part, BioWare really tries to get this right. It's important to them to show diversity and it sets them apart from a lot of other studios. Their marketing division did more of a disservice to BioWare's brand than any author, writer or developer. As far as leads go, I'm appalled they didn't eject Manveer Heir out of Montreal when the tweets were so obviously racist and yet, "supported" by Flynn. This fueled a hate train that was going to crash the Andromeda party unless it was damn near perfect. And it wasn't. The train wreck that ensued was all the justification needed by YouTube's click-bait community to cash in. Looking forward, I'm glad Heir is gone. I hope Sam Maggs hits an early home run so the haters can find another target. I want to romanticize the notion that BioWare is an art studio, filled with writers, musicians, artists and directors. I've finally arrived to the conclusion that it's a production studio that needs to meet quotas, deadlines and juggle issues like field triage. It's still full of artsy people, but just as important, developers that translate all those one-dimensional artifacts onto the Frostbite canvas. Those guys just went through fire and brimstone. Nothing has been handed to them except challenges. And yet, I'm down for Andromeda DLC not because I'm a fanboy, because I'm wanting more of the good stuff. its something i give them a lot of props for. Look at how bioware deals with things like this compared to Doctor Who (for instance), love the show but som of the stuff they do for diversity is kind of cringe worthy. I concur.
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Post by suikoden on Jun 28, 2017 4:27:57 GMT
The Onion is satire and the whole SJW needs to be satirized because it's ridiculous. It was a concocted excuse to attack writers about intent instead of execution. For the most part, BioWare really tries to get this right. It's important to them to show diversity and it sets them apart from a lot of other studios. Their marketing division did more of a disservice to BioWare's brand than any author, writer or developer. As far as leads go, I'm appalled they didn't eject Manveer Heir out of Montreal when the tweets were so obviously racist and yet, "supported" by Flynn. This fueled a hate train that was going to crash the Andromeda party unless it was damn near perfect. And it wasn't. The train wreck that ensued was all the justification needed by YouTube's click-bait community to cash in. Looking forward, I'm glad Heir is gone. I hope Sam Maggs hits an early home run so the haters can find another target. I want to romanticize the notion that BioWare is an art studio, filled with writers, musicians, artists and directors. I've finally arrived to the conclusion that it's a production studio that needs to meet quotas, deadlines and juggle issues like field triage. It's still full of artsy people, but just as important, developers that translate all those one-dimensional artifacts onto the Frostbite canvas. Those guys just went through fire and brimstone. Nothing has been handed to them except challenges. And yet, I'm down for Andromeda DLC not because I'm a fanboy, because I'm wanting more of the good stuff. Not being able to have white skin in the CC kind of poured fuel on the SJW fire as well.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jun 28, 2017 4:30:17 GMT
The Onion is satire and the whole SJW needs to be satirized because it's ridiculous. It was a concocted excuse to attack writers about intent instead of execution. For the most part, BioWare really tries to get this right. It's important to them to show diversity and it sets them apart from a lot of other studios. Their marketing division did more of a disservice to BioWare's brand than any author, writer or developer. As far as leads go, I'm appalled they didn't eject Manveer Heir out of Montreal when the tweets were so obviously racist and yet, "supported" by Flynn. This fueled a hate train that was going to crash the Andromeda party unless it was damn near perfect. And it wasn't. The train wreck that ensued was all the justification needed by YouTube's click-bait community to cash in. Looking forward, I'm glad Heir is gone. I hope Sam Maggs hits an early home run so the haters can find another target. I want to romanticize the notion that BioWare is an art studio, filled with writers, musicians, artists and directors. I've finally arrived to the conclusion that it's a production studio that needs to meet quotas, deadlines and juggle issues like field triage. It's still full of artsy people, but just as important, developers that translate all those one-dimensional artifacts onto the Frostbite canvas. Those guys just went through fire and brimstone. Nothing has been handed to them except challenges. And yet, I'm down for Andromeda DLC not because I'm a fanboy, because I'm wanting more of the good stuff. Not being able to have white skin in the CC kind of poured fuel on the SJW fire as well. I made a white-skinned character in the 10 hour EA preview..
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Post by colfoley on Jun 28, 2017 6:05:42 GMT
The Onion is satire and the whole SJW needs to be satirized because it's ridiculous. It was a concocted excuse to attack writers about intent instead of execution. For the most part, BioWare really tries to get this right. It's important to them to show diversity and it sets them apart from a lot of other studios. Their marketing division did more of a disservice to BioWare's brand than any author, writer or developer. As far as leads go, I'm appalled they didn't eject Manveer Heir out of Montreal when the tweets were so obviously racist and yet, "supported" by Flynn. This fueled a hate train that was going to crash the Andromeda party unless it was damn near perfect. And it wasn't. The train wreck that ensued was all the justification needed by YouTube's click-bait community to cash in. Looking forward, I'm glad Heir is gone. I hope Sam Maggs hits an early home run so the haters can find another target. I want to romanticize the notion that BioWare is an art studio, filled with writers, musicians, artists and directors. I've finally arrived to the conclusion that it's a production studio that needs to meet quotas, deadlines and juggle issues like field triage. It's still full of artsy people, but just as important, developers that translate all those one-dimensional artifacts onto the Frostbite canvas. Those guys just went through fire and brimstone. Nothing has been handed to them except challenges. And yet, I'm down for Andromeda DLC not because I'm a fanboy, because I'm wanting more of the good stuff. Not being able to have white skin in the CC kind of poured fuel on the SJW fire as well. i created three Ryders. All white. Two before patch 1.08. Your information is wrong.
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 28, 2017 6:45:52 GMT
Oh this will end well...
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 28, 2017 9:59:16 GMT
The Onion is satire and the whole SJW needs to be satirized because it's ridiculous. It was a concocted excuse to attack writers about intent instead of execution. For the most part, BioWare really tries to get this right. It's important to them to show diversity and it sets them apart from a lot of other studios. Their marketing division did more of a disservice to BioWare's brand than any author, writer or developer. As far as leads go, I'm appalled they didn't eject Manveer Heir out of Montreal when the tweets were so obviously racist and yet, "supported" by Flynn. This fueled a hate train that was going to crash the Andromeda party unless it was damn near perfect. And it wasn't. The train wreck that ensued was all the justification needed by YouTube's click-bait community to cash in. Looking forward, I'm glad Heir is gone. I hope Sam Maggs hits an early home run so the haters can find another target. I want to romanticize the notion that BioWare is an art studio, filled with writers, musicians, artists and directors. I've finally arrived to the conclusion that it's a production studio that needs to meet quotas, deadlines and juggle issues like field triage. It's still full of artsy people, but just as important, developers that translate all those one-dimensional artifacts onto the Frostbite canvas. Those guys just went through fire and brimstone. Nothing has been handed to them except challenges. And yet, I'm down for Andromeda DLC not because I'm a fanboy, because I'm wanting more of the good stuff. Not being able to have white skin in the CC kind of poured fuel on the SJW fire as well. I didn't have that issue with the PS4.
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Post by Hrulj on Jun 28, 2017 11:16:27 GMT
Not being able to have white skin in the CC kind of poured fuel on the SJW fire as well. I made a white-skinned character in the 10 hour EA preview.. Lightest skin was light brown.
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Post by Serza on Jun 28, 2017 11:35:00 GMT
I might be a bad example (after all, only 95-99 percent of the girls I see in real life are of Slavic descent) but I could swear Sara was white.
Not pale white (do try to get out in the real world if you think Sara isn't white, by the way) but naturally white. Like someone who does other things than claim BioWare are anti-white on unofficial forums all day long.
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Post by canticleofshartan on Jun 28, 2017 11:54:01 GMT
I made a white-skinned character in the 10 hour EA preview.. Lightest skin was light brown. wait, is there no way to use the default ryders skin tone? because theyre pretty clearly white
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Post by shechinah on Jun 28, 2017 11:56:11 GMT
I might be a bad example (after all, only 95-99 percent of the girls I see in real life are of Slavic descent) but I could swear Sara was white.Not pale white (do try to get out in the real world if you think Sara isn't white, by the way) but naturally white. Like someone who does other things than claim BioWare are anti-white on unofficial forums all day long. I live in one of the scandinavian countries and Sara looked white to me as well.
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Post by rolenka on Jun 28, 2017 13:46:39 GMT
Here is the lead designer acknowledging the skin tone problem:
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Post by trinity0 on Jun 28, 2017 13:55:30 GMT
I might be a bad example (after all, only 95-99 percent of the girls I see in real life are of Slavic descent) but I could swear Sara was white.Not pale white (do try to get out in the real world if you think Sara isn't white, by the way) but naturally white. Like someone who does other things than claim BioWare are anti-white on unofficial forums all day long. I live in one of the scandinavian countries and Sara looked white to me as well. The problem was the CC not the default Sara. With the Original CC from the Release ist was not possible to create a Celtic or Scandinavian looking Women. After they add the new preset to the CC it is possible now
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Post by shechinah on Jun 28, 2017 14:12:32 GMT
The problem was the CC not the default Sara. With the Original CC from the Release ist was not possible to create a Celtic or Scandinavian looking Women. After they add the new preset to the CC it is possible now I could have sworn that I managed when I was playing around with the character creator at launch. I've checked the Share your Ryders thread and here are some of the characters that I think look white and who were made at trial or at launch to my knowledge:
I have to disagree with the notion that it wasn't possible to create a scandinavian-looking woman previous to the recent patch.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 14:21:26 GMT
The problem was the CC not the default Sara. With the Original CC from the Release ist was not possible to create a Celtic or Scandinavian looking Women. After they add the new preset to the CC it is possible now I could have sworn that I managed when I was playing around with the character creator at launch. I'll have to check 'screens of pre-patch characters but there is a character thread still around that I look in. The Asian preset had fair skin.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jun 28, 2017 14:59:18 GMT
I made a white-skinned character in the 10 hour EA preview.. Lightest skin was light brown. Wait, is my Ryder not white? Because she looks white to me and everyone at my place of employment. Also, I live in the midwest, so it's like 95% white people around here. Germans and Scandinavians. So we know white people. And everyone agrees she's white. Sooo.....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 15:02:01 GMT
Lightest skin was light brown. Wait, is my Ryder not white? Because she looks white to me and everyone at my place of employment. Also, I live in the midwest, so it's like 95% white people around here. Germans and Scandinavians. So we know white people. And everyone agrees she's white. Sooo..... I know right? Lighting played a big part, and when I fixed my settings and brightened my monitor a bit, no one had light brown skin. My March playthrough ending scene with skin tone 5 using preset 5:
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Post by Hrulj on Jun 28, 2017 15:13:56 GMT
Lightest skin was light brown. Wait, is my Ryder not white? Because she looks white to me and everyone at my place of employment. Also, I live in the midwest, so it's like 95% white people around here. Germans and Scandinavians. So we know white people. And everyone agrees she's white. Sooo..... That's still very light brown, tanned skin. And I suppose that's the lightest you could go
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Post by shechinah on Jun 28, 2017 15:21:34 GMT
That's still very light brown, tanned skin. And I suppose that's the lightest you could goI could have sworn that I managed when I was playing around with the character creator at launch. I've checked the Share your Ryders thread and here are some of the characters that I think look white and who were made at trial or at launch to my knowledge:
I have to disagree with the notion that it wasn't possible to create a scandinavian-looking woman previous to the recent patch
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jun 28, 2017 15:26:21 GMT
I was going to say that I normally have no problem seeing the joke in Onion articles, but this one just had me scratching my head.
After reading the responses, I assume it is referring to something specific (that I was unaware of) happening over the last few months.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 28, 2017 15:31:55 GMT
Wait, is my Ryder not white? Because she looks white to me and everyone at my place of employment. Also, I live in the midwest, so it's like 95% white people around here. Germans and Scandinavians. So we know white people. And everyone agrees she's white. Sooo..... That's still very light brown, tanned skin. And I suppose that's the lightest you could go She looks white to me. If the person supposed to look the color of Suvi's shirt, then we're looking outside normal human range. Tbh, I'm of Irish-Italian descent, considered white by absolutely everyone and my skin is probably darker than Sara's in the above pic.
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