Kotaku - Sources: Mass Effect: Andromeda Will Not Get Single-Player DLC

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Post by OdanUrr on Jun 30, 2017 21:49:26 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 21:43:27 GMT smilesja said:

Jun 30, 2017 21:40:30 GMT sil said:

www.pcgamer.com/new-report-says-mass-effect-andromeda-isnt-getting-any-single-player-dlc/

It's spread to PCGamer.

I've said it earlier and I'll say it again. Games journalisms is the fakest news of them all.

Um, a lot of news related to games aren't fake so, not true?

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Post by LogicGunn on Jun 30, 2017 21:49:48 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 21:40:30 GMT sil said:

www.pcgamer.com/new-report-says-mass-effect-andromeda-isnt-getting-any-single-player-dlc/

It's spread to PCGamer.

No, I've had enough. This is getting ridiculous. Reporting someone else's article with information from anonymous sources isn't journalism. 3rd hand journalism isn't news, it's hearsay and gossip. PC Gamer should know better than this.

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Kotaku - Sources: Mass Effect: Andromeda Will Not Get Single-Player DLC Jun 30, 2017 21:51:07 GMT Serza and Cyan_Griffonclaw like this

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Jun 30, 2017 21:49:09 GMT SofNascimento said:

Jun 30, 2017 21:40:02 GMT @blastosrevenge said:

I don ´ t have to make fun of him. He did that all by himself. I ´ m just pointing out that certain people are just too willing to believe unconfirmed bullshit over known facts. And other people, who like to boldly call themselves ´ journalists ´ , are more than ready to make cash from that unconfirmed bullshit.

If he is so sure about his claims, why is he creeping around this forum and using Twitter to insult people, who chose not to agree with him?

And if it turns out he was right about no DLCs?

I acutely don't care anymore. I like seeing justice served.

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Post by sugarless on Jun 30, 2017 21:51:26 GMT

This...again? Feels like groundhog day.

Despite not being a huge fan of Andromeda, I sincerely hope you guys get your single player dlc.

However, watching you all unravel over this is madness. Bioware will respond, until they do:

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Post by sil on Jun 30, 2017 21:51:26 GMT

Let's just remember that ME:A isn't the commercial disaster people think it is, that EA very rarely will bypass a chance to sell DLC, that Cora's VA was recording dialogue a month or so ago, and that the dev's have been all but saying that they're working on stuff but unable to say anything on it. DLC is coming, maybe the scope is smaller than it was expected to be, but we'll get some.

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Post by smilesja on Jun 30, 2017 21:51:38 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 21:49:26 GMT OdanUrr said:

Jun 30, 2017 21:43:27 GMT smilesja said:

I've said it earlier and I'll say it again. Games journalisms is the fakest news of them all.

Um, a lot of news related to games aren't fake so, not true?

Not when you have gaming "journalists" copying and pasting the same story for cheap clicks.

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Post by Monica21 on Jun 30, 2017 21:52:01 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 21:31:13 GMT ShadowAngel said:

Jun 30, 2017 21:26:10 GMT Monica21 said:

Here's what I don't get. DA2 did very poorly and Bioware still found it within themselves to release a DLC and then give themselves enough time to create a proper sequel. What's the difference here?

DAII was received a little better than Andromeda is. Besides, Andromeda may be mediocre in the scoring department but it's far from financial failure so I don't see why DLC wouldn't happen. Various games triple A or not with scores in the 70s get DLC all the time. The only reason Andromeda wouldn't get any is if EA is strict on spending if the game didn't get very far past the profit line, and I don't know sales so no comment on that.

EA likes money, and if they've already put money towards a DLC, why not just finish it and release it? The only reason I can see that it wouldn't get a DLC is because EA decided to move all their resources to Anthem, which sounds like a terrible strategy.

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Jun 30, 2017 21:51:26 GMT sil said:

Let's just remember that ME:A isn't the commercial disaster people think it is, that EA very rarely will bypass a chance to sell DLC, that Cora's VA was recording dialogue a month or so ago, and that the dev's have been all but saying that they're working on stuff but unable to say anything on it. DLC is coming, maybe the scope is smaller than it was expected to be, but we'll get some.

Exactly!

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Jun 30, 2017 21:49:48 GMT LogicGunn said:

Jun 30, 2017 21:40:30 GMT sil said:

www.pcgamer.com/new-report-says-mass-effect-andromeda-isnt-getting-any-single-player-dlc/

It's spread to PCGamer.

No, I've had enough. This is getting ridiculous. Reporting someone else's article with information from anonymous sources isn't journalism. 3rd hand journalism isn't news, it's hearsay and gossip. PC Gamer should know better than this.

And yet they don't.
Can you imagine the state of games journalism in 10 years time? Urghh :facepalm:

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Post by LogicGunn on Jun 30, 2017 21:53:52 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 21:49:09 GMT SofNascimento said:

Jun 30, 2017 21:40:02 GMT @blastosrevenge said:

I don ´ t have to make fun of him. He did that all by himself. I ´ m just pointing out that certain people are just too willing to believe unconfirmed bullshit over known facts. And other people, who like to boldly call themselves ´ journalists ´ , are more than ready to make cash from that unconfirmed bullshit.

If he is so sure about his claims, why is he creeping around this forum and using Twitter to insult people, who chose not to agree with him?

And if it turns out he was right about no DLCs?

Either he had real sources or it is guesswork. Anonymous sources aren't going to come out into the open if there is no DLC, and if you bullshit you're gonna get it right sometimes. There isn't going to be a way to know for sure. But people with an opinion or agenda will spin it to suit themselves regardless.

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Post by OdanUrr on Jun 30, 2017 21:53:56 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 21:51:38 GMT smilesja said:

Jun 30, 2017 21:49:26 GMT OdanUrr said:

Um, a lot of news related to games aren't fake so, not true?

Not when you have gaming "journalists" copying and pasting the same story for cheap clicks.

Yeah, I wish they put some research into it rather than simply copying from another site. They have the resources, don't they?

Of all the things I've seen on the battlefields of the Frontier, the Pilot is the true dominant force.

Fast and agile...

Graceful, yet devastating.

Perceptive, resourceful, and relentless.

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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 30, 2017 21:58:26 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 21:26:10 GMT Monica21 said:

Here's what I don't get. DA2 did very poorly and Bioware still found it within themselves to release a DLC and then give themselves enough time to create a proper sequel. What's the difference here?

Nothing. Nada. I was a little worried, but BioWare did a better job of communicating. It wasn't until Inquisition that the communication starting go dark for real corporate reasons (which I abhor and still think there is a workaround...) and that feeds my insecurities about EA's handling of BioWare. However, BioWare is keeping tabs. I'm not delusional. Or f***... I am. But I am not alone.

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Post by kino on Jun 30, 2017 21:58:31 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 21:40:30 GMT sil said:

www.pcgamer.com/new-report-says-mass-effect-andromeda-isnt-getting-any-single-player-dlc/

It's spread to PCGamer.

*sigh*

Of course it has. It's how innuendo is spread. Saying in one breath how the SN thing was a hoax but then saying that someone else is saying said hoax is actually right...

Man, it's just sad.

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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 21:59:01 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 21:49:09 GMT SofNascimento said:

Jun 30, 2017 21:40:02 GMT @blastosrevenge said:

I don ´ t have to make fun of him. He did that all by himself. I ´ m just pointing out that certain people are just too willing to believe unconfirmed bullshit over known facts. And other people, who like to boldly call themselves ´ journalists ´ , are more than ready to make cash from that unconfirmed bullshit.

If he is so sure about his claims, why is he creeping around this forum and using Twitter to insult people, who chose not to agree with him?

And if it turns out he was right about no DLCs?

Eh, I suppose people like you will celebrate or something? Hard to say, I am not a hater.
As for me, I will be the first to admit I was wrong. I will even apologize. because yes, I am able to do that. I look at facts, not blind speculations with no hard evidence.

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Post by SofNascimento on Jun 30, 2017 21:59:18 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 21:53:52 GMT LogicGunn said:

Jun 30, 2017 21:49:09 GMT SofNascimento said:

And if it turns out he was right about no DLCs?

Either he had real sources or it is guesswork. Anonymous sources aren't going to come out into the open if there is no DLC, and if you bullshit you're gonna get it right sometimes. There isn't going to be a way to know for sure. But people with an opinion or agenda will spin it to suit themselves regardless.

So basically he sucks no matter what?

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Post by OdanUrr on Jun 30, 2017 21:59:52 GMT

I'm just here waiting for someone to post the BvS Alfred quote.

Of all the things I've seen on the battlefields of the Frontier, the Pilot is the true dominant force.

Fast and agile...

Graceful, yet devastating.

Perceptive, resourceful, and relentless.

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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 30, 2017 22:01:19 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 21:43:27 GMT smilesja said:

Jun 30, 2017 21:40:30 GMT sil said:

www.pcgamer.com/new-report-says-mass-effect-andromeda-isnt-getting-any-single-player-dlc/

It's spread to PCGamer.

I've said it earlier and I'll say it again. Games journalisms is the fakest news of them all.

They regurgitated Kotaku. Okay... I no longer need that tinfoil cap.

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Post by OdanUrr on Jun 30, 2017 22:01:52 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 22:01:13 GMT sil said:

Jun 30, 2017 21:59:52 GMT OdanUrr said:

I'm just here waiting for someone to post the BvS Alfred quote.

With great power comes great responsibility?....wrong character?

Good quote, wrong movie.

Of all the things I've seen on the battlefields of the Frontier, the Pilot is the true dominant force.

Fast and agile...

Graceful, yet devastating.

Perceptive, resourceful, and relentless.

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Jun 30, 2017 21:51:26 GMT sugarless said:

This...again? Feels like groundhog day.

Despite not being a huge fan of Andromeda, I sincerely hope you guys get your single player dlc.

However, watching you all unravel over this is madness. Bioware will respond, until they do:

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Jun 30, 2017 20:26:24 GMT Croatsky said:

Jun 30, 2017 20:25:16 GMT @novatrex said:

So how reliable is Kotaku? I don't ever visit the site, but it seems that someone here is creating a thread about an article they wrote fairly often.

They're very unreliable.

PC Gamer claims they have "a pretty good record of getting things right". last paragraph
So you think PC gamer is way off the mark there?

EDIT: Not that I buy into either one, just curious.

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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 30, 2017 22:03:19 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 21:52:01 GMT Monica21 said:

Jun 30, 2017 21:31:13 GMT ShadowAngel said:

DAII was received a little better than Andromeda is. Besides, Andromeda may be mediocre in the scoring department but it's far from financial failure so I don't see why DLC wouldn't happen. Various games triple A or not with scores in the 70s get DLC all the time. The only reason Andromeda wouldn't get any is if EA is strict on spending if the game didn't get very far past the profit line, and I don't know sales so no comment on that.

EA likes money, and if they've already put money towards a DLC, why not just finish it and release it? The only reason I can see that it wouldn't get a DLC is because EA decided to move all their resources to Anthem, which sounds like a terrible strategy.

damn straight.

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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jun 30, 2017 22:04:20 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 22:02:17 GMT @novatrex said:

Jun 30, 2017 20:26:24 GMT Croatsky said:

They're very unreliable.

PC Gamer claims they have "a pretty good record of getting things right". last paragraph
So you think PC gamer is way off the mark there?

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Post by Croatsky on Jun 30, 2017 22:04:35 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 22:02:17 GMT @novatrex said:

Jun 30, 2017 20:26:24 GMT Croatsky said:

They're very unreliable.

PC Gamer claims they have "a pretty good record of getting things right". last paragraph
So you think PC gamer is way off the mark there?

Absolutely.

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Post by flyingovertrout on Jun 30, 2017 22:05:35 GMT

Jun 30, 2017 21:59:18 GMT SofNascimento said:

Jun 30, 2017 21:53:52 GMT LogicGunn said:

Either he had real sources or it is guesswork. Anonymous sources aren't going to come out into the open if there is no DLC, and if you bullshit you're gonna get it right sometimes. There isn't going to be a way to know for sure. But people with an opinion or agenda will spin it to suit themselves regardless.

So basically he sucks no matter what?

Yeah, that's kind of an intellectually lazy position. Unfalsifiable convictions are weak convictions.

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