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Post by Croatsky on Jul 6, 2017 15:34:20 GMT
By the... eh... God? Look, I'm still old fashioned.
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Post by annalireth on Jul 6, 2017 15:36:17 GMT
Maker help us all!!! (invoking my inner Duncan) Yeah, I know wrong game but I think we need all the help we can get
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 15:37:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 15:40:45 GMT
As much as I want Quarian Ark DLC or DLC of any kind for ME:A, the evidence we currently have points to it not happening, sadly. I will certainly be checking in with baited breath to see if any news of DLC is announced, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up for my own sanity's sake. By all means, run a hashtag. Try to get EA and BioWare to see ME:A for the great game that it is and that is has a very passionate base of fans who love it. I personally hate social media so I can't really partake, but I say go for it. Just remember to be polite adults and not shrieking autist fanbois! Quoth G. Vakarian: "Expect the worst, hope to be surprised." I just have to hold my expectations until this countdown is over: Until them I'll suport the #SaveTheQuarians were I can. I haven't seen this. This guy an ME:A dev?
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Post by smilesja on Jul 6, 2017 15:42:01 GMT
We need more support! Every person counts! Get out there and tell them about this hashtag!
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Post by kino on Jul 6, 2017 15:46:31 GMT
As much as I want Quarian Ark DLC or DLC of any kind for ME:A, the evidence we currently have points to it not happening, sadly. I will certainly be checking in with baited breath to see if any news of DLC is announced, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up for my own sanity's sake. By all means, run a hashtag. Try to get EA and BioWare to see ME:A for the great game that it is and that is has a very passionate base of fans who love it. I personally hate social media so I can't really partake, but I say go for it. Just remember to be polite adults and not shrieking autist fanbois! Quoth G. Vakarian: "Expect the worst, hope to be surprised." I just have to hold my expectations until this countdown is over: Until them I'll suport the #SaveTheQuarians were I can. While I hope it's something, it's also the date of their panel at Montreal ComicCon.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 6, 2017 15:47:03 GMT
I just have to hold my expectations until this countdown is over: Until them I'll suport the #SaveTheQuarians were I can. I haven't seen this. This guy an ME:A dev? Yes, but he works at BioWare Edmonton. And he could just be trolling people with the countdown. Also he's been posting about job listings for BioWare Edmonton, mainly for Dragon Age Franchise. So even though he is still probably in ME:A team, I think he is soon switching to DA4 team. But we shall see. His countdown ends when Montreal Comic Con starts. He is not attending that Comic Con as far as we know and BioWare's panel will be only about ME:A. So, there's that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 15:53:41 GMT
I haven't seen this. This guy an ME:A dev? Yes, but he works at BioWare Edmonton. And he could just be trolling people with the countdown. Also he's been posting about job listings for BioWare Edmonton, mainly for Dragon Age Franchise. So even though he is still probably in ME:A team, I think he is soon switching to DA4 team. But we shall see. His countdown ends when Montreal Comic Con starts. He is not attending that Comic Con as far as we know and BioWare's panel will be only about ME:A. So, there's that. Interesting, but not getting my hopes up.
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Post by Serza on Jul 6, 2017 16:21:15 GMT
As much as I want Quarian Ark DLC or DLC of any kind for ME:A, the evidence we currently have points to it not happening, sadly. I will certainly be checking in with baited breath to see if any news of DLC is announced, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up for my own sanity's sake. By all means, run a hashtag. Try to get EA and BioWare to see ME:A for the great game that it is and that is has a very passionate base of fans who love it. I personally hate social media so I can't really partake, but I say go for it. Just remember to be polite adults and not shrieking autist fanbois! Quoth G. Vakarian: "Expect the worst, hope to be surprised." I just have to hold my expectations until this countdown is over: Until them I'll suport the #SaveTheQuarians were I can. As interesting as that is, it's not guaranteed he's suggesting anything MEA related. Though he may have inside knowledge that there WILL be some sort of reveal and he can't say jack, but nobody's going to look twice if he just teases the beginning of an event that might have a myriad of different things.
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Post by kino on Jul 6, 2017 16:33:11 GMT
That's a little odd. They don't need a game patch to add characters, playable or factions, to MP. They can do that from the backend. It's a whole new model, that would need to be patched in I apparently owe you a mea culpa, so...mea culpa. Apparently you and DragonRacer called it and the character did have to patched in. I call shenanigans on the universe for playing a cruel joke to prove me wrong, but, still, mea culpa.
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Post by link2twenty on Jul 6, 2017 16:58:36 GMT
They're going live soon, come and represent (if you want)
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Post by bshep on Jul 6, 2017 17:13:56 GMT
Can someone whatch the livestream and later make a sumary? I won't be able to watch today.
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Post by kino on Jul 6, 2017 17:45:47 GMT
Can someone whatch the livestream and later make a sumary? I won't be able to watch today. It'll be stored in the video archive on the BioWare Twitch page if you want to watch it later. I've had to do that a couple of times.
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Post by majesticjazz on Jul 6, 2017 19:14:45 GMT
Why the need to show support? I mean, I thought people here are confident that SP DLC is coming? If you're so sure that it is coming, why do you need to start a movement to show support for the game? Is the game's financials not enough support for EA/Bioware? As much as I like it when people speak for me and tell me why I do the things I do, none of that is an intellectually honest portrayal of any views I've seen on this forum. So let's take a step back. Financials are important but we don't know the specifics. We have the shareholder meeting transcript which is largely positive but isn't the full picture. We don't know how well/poorly it sold and EA is unlikely to offer that data anytime soon. The reason there is a "movement" is for two reasons: 1. Schreier's reporting may be correct, but it's sketchy, and 2. if Schreier is correct, he also said that Bioware might change their minds. Why not use this as an opportunity to influence them? I'm a paying customer and will use real dollars to pay for more Mass Effect. That's my goal. Customer-driven campaigns really can work, but you have the option to choose not to be part of it, instead of spending your time caring what other people are doing with their time. When it comes to financials, in the first week of sales, didn't MEA sell less than what ME3 did in it's first week? It sold around 1 million units in physical sales the first week and EA expected 3 million. Either way, this is Electronic Arts we are dealing with, a billion dollar organization that only sees things in profits and losses. This isn't a political grass roots movement where a certain political figure (or organization like congress) can be swayed because they see a large swath of their constituents making certain demands. With EA, this is about their bottom line and if they have internal financials that shows that it isn't financially feasible to spend more money/resources on SP DLC for MEA, this is a decision that they have already made. They have numbers and metrics that would give them indication that something would be profitable or not and I am sure that is what they make their decisions on in addition to the review scores. A videogame gets a chunk of their sells during the first month and after that it is just a small drizzle. So EA already has a month or two of data that would show them that it is okay for them to greenlight a SP DLC endeavor or to not. Unless the #SaveTheQuarians campaign can somehow give MEA a large bump in game sales, I just do not see what message this sends to EA? I mean, you say you want to show them that there is still love for the game but that can be said about any videogame, no matter how popular or unpopular it was, no matter how much it sold and no matter what the review scores were......ALL videogames will have a tight-knit community that is very loyal to the game/developer and would like to see more content/sequels made. So what makes the MEA community so unique to where EA should ignore what their internal data shows about profitability and just go ahead with SP content. I mean, I am pretty sure EA appreciates the support, but in their mind, their decision is going to come from game sales, not social media hashtags and I'll say it again, unless #SaveTheQuarians can convince people to go out and buy the game to add to the sales numbers, or retroactively increase MEA's sales, I just do not seeing this having any impact on EA's decision to move forward or not move forward with SP DLC because that was most likely a decision already made back in April/May or even March.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 19:24:13 GMT
Physical copies =/= digital sales. Digital accounts for a far larger portion of games sales nowadays than it did five years ago. People have gone over the sales data countless times, and the conclusions have been the same: the game reached its initial sales goal, and current sales are around 4.5 to 5 million. So you can quit pretending Andromeda was some colossal failure, because it wasn't by any single metric in existence.
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Post by majesticjazz on Jul 6, 2017 19:28:25 GMT
Physical copies =/= digital sales. Digital accounts for a far larger portion of games sales nowadays than it did five years ago. People have gone over the sales data countless times, and the conclusions have been the same: the game reached its initial sales goal, and current sales are around 4.5 to 5 million. So you can quit pretending Andromeda was some colossal failure, because it wasn't by any single metric in existence. So that brings me back to square one then....which is why the need for #SaveTheQuarians? Why the need to "show support" for the game? I mean, by believing you, then MEA was a financial success and met all the expectations set out by EA which means that SP DLC is coming? Why the need to show support for a game that EA already is satisfied with and already outdid it's financial goals? EDIT: Same thing with the petition. If MEA is a financial success and met EA's goals....and if EA only sees $$$ isn't it a foregone conclusion that SP DLC is coming so that EA can further milk the game? If so, why the need for an online petition in order to convince them to not walk away from the game? Wouldn't you think MEA's strong sales would be enough to convince EA?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 19:33:45 GMT
So that brings me back to square one then....which is why the need for #SaveTheQuarians? Why the need to "show support" for the game? I mean, by believing you, then MEA was a financial success and met all the expectations set out by EA which means that SP DLC is coming? Why the need to show support for a game that EA already is satisfied with and already outdid it's financial goals? It's all thanks to a horde of whiny trolls on the internet who want things they don't like (and the people who make and enjoy them) to die, and clickbait bloggers who'll regurgitate any crap any schlub tells them as long as it'll get them clicks.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 6, 2017 19:38:20 GMT
Physical copies =/= digital sales. Digital accounts for a far larger portion of games sales nowadays than it did five years ago. People have gone over the sales data countless times, and the conclusions have been the same: the game reached its initial sales goal, and current sales are around 4.5 to 5 million. So you can quit pretending Andromeda was some colossal failure, because it wasn't by any single metric in existence. So that brings me back to blah blah blah Spam, already asked and answered.
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Post by majesticjazz on Jul 6, 2017 19:42:22 GMT
So that brings me back to square one then....which is why the need for #SaveTheQuarians? Why the need to "show support" for the game? I mean, by believing you, then MEA was a financial success and met all the expectations set out by EA which means that SP DLC is coming? Why the need to show support for a game that EA already is satisfied with and already outdid it's financial goals? It's all thanks to a horde of whiny trolls on the internet who want things they don't like (and the people who make and enjoy them) to die, and clickbait bloggers who'll regurgitate any crap any schlub tells them as long as it'll get them clicks. I am sorry, but I fail to see the logic in your comment. Mass Effect 3 was just as toxic in terms of trolls and people wanting to see the demise of Mass Effect and yet I do not recall any hashtag movements or online petitions in order to convince EA that support is still there for the game and that they want post launch SP content. Yes, there was the whole indoctrination theory stuff made up by fans in order to give them a reasonable "head canon" for the endings, but there was never a movement to ask for more SP content because people already knew that the game got great review scores and sold well enough to warrant more SP content. Again, EA sees $$$ and that is all they see. Do you think that EA is not used to internet trolls/hate by now? And do you think that has stopped them for continuing their agenda? Take Madden for example, EVERY year people complain (and they are the loudest) about how EA just releases the same game every year with just a small update or two, but yet EA doesn't care cause their internal numbers shows them that it makes financial sense for them to keep making Madden games the way they do. So with Mass Effect Andromeda, how are things different? If EA's internal numbers shows them that it makes financial sense to invest into SP DLC for MEA, then why would EA need to be convinced by some online petition and hashtag movement? Do the sales of the game not speak for itself?
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Post by kino on Jul 6, 2017 19:49:16 GMT
So that brings me back to square one then....which is why the need for #SaveTheQuarians? Why the need to "show support" for the game? I mean, by believing you, then MEA was a financial success and met all the expectations set out by EA which means that SP DLC is coming? Why the need to show support for a game that EA already is satisfied with and already outdid it's financial goals? It's all thanks to a horde of whiny trolls on the internet who want things they don't like (and the people who make and enjoy them) to die, and clickbait bloggers who'll regurgitate any crap any schlub tells them as long as it'll get them clicks. Ignore it, fms. He's just derailing the thread. You know the truth of the matter.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 19:58:44 GMT
Physical copies =/= digital sales. Digital accounts for a far larger portion of games sales nowadays than it did five years ago. People have gone over the sales data countless times, and the conclusions have been the same: the game reached its initial sales goal, and current sales are around 4.5 to 5 million. So you can quit pretending Andromeda was some colossal failure, because it wasn't by any single metric in existence. So that brings me back to square one then....which is why the need for #SaveTheQuarians? Why the need to "show support" for the game? I mean, by believing you, then MEA was a financial success and met all the expectations set out by EA which means that SP DLC is coming? Why the need to show support for a game that EA already is satisfied with and already outdid it's financial goals? EDIT: Same thing with the petition. If MEA is a financial success and met EA's goals....and if EA only sees $$$ isn't it a foregone conclusion that SP DLC is coming so that EA can further milk the game? If so, why the need for an online petition in order to convince them to not walk away from the game? Wouldn't you think MEA's strong sales would be enough to convince EA? So, that brings me back to... maybe it's not needed.... maybe we would get SP DLC in due course without doing anything at all. Still, what is the harm in telling people who worked very hard on something that we enjoyed their work and would like to see the hints they made towards future plot lines finished? People show support for things/people that are already a success all the time. We rally behind a winning team at a ball game. We party in the streets when they win the cup and we tell them that we'll be back when they make another run for the cup the next year. It's not needed, but it's still nice for them to hear.
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Post by majesticjazz on Jul 6, 2017 20:04:17 GMT
So that brings me back to square one then....which is why the need for #SaveTheQuarians? Why the need to "show support" for the game? I mean, by believing you, then MEA was a financial success and met all the expectations set out by EA which means that SP DLC is coming? Why the need to show support for a game that EA already is satisfied with and already outdid it's financial goals? EDIT: Same thing with the petition. If MEA is a financial success and met EA's goals....and if EA only sees $$$ isn't it a foregone conclusion that SP DLC is coming so that EA can further milk the game? If so, why the need for an online petition in order to convince them to not walk away from the game? Wouldn't you think MEA's strong sales would be enough to convince EA? So, that brings me back to... maybe it's not needed.... maybe we would get SP DLC in due course without doing anything at all. Still, what is the harm in telling people who worked very hard on something that we enjoyed their work and would like to see the hints they made towards future plot lines finished? People show support for things/people that are already a success all the time. We rally behind a winning team at a ball game. We party in the streets when they win the cup and we tell them that we'll be back when they make another run for the cup the next year. It's not needed, but it's still nice for them to hear. True, I just find it odd how this was never needed/done before for previous Bioware titles. DAO, DA2, DAI, ME1, ME2, and ME3 didn't have/need fans show support for the game through petitions/online movements, so whats so different about MEA?
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 6, 2017 20:15:54 GMT
True, I just find it odd how this was never needed/done before for previous Bioware titles. DAO, DA2, DAI, ME1, ME2, and ME3 didn't have/need fans show support for the game through petitions/online movements, so whats so different about MEA? I know you are keen to find some underlying logic but that's not what this thread is about. The rumors from Kotaku and others make folk who like the game nervous. So giving some support is a nice thing to do, to remind BioWare that it's not only meme generating asshats out there... Can we get back to the 'support' discussion now, please.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 6, 2017 20:22:07 GMT
For months people were obsessed in posting gifs and videos about ME: A fails and glitches. I'd say It's about time that fans of the game push back against them.
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