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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 15:03:22 GMT
It's selling so great GameStop had it on sale for $20. Sorry but MEA failed big time. Wishing for DLC and a sequel isn't going to change a thing Then stop putting forth that you're "sorry" because you're clearly not sorry at all. Knocking ME:A into oblivion was the surest way to ensure that no reboot of the ME Trilogy is ever made either. Good job... fans.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 5, 2017 15:07:17 GMT
Hmm, if the game has been very successful at launch, odds are you won't see deep discounts a few months after release. For instance, Sony recently had its Days of Play sale where Horizon Zero Dawn was 34% off. This game released about a month before Andromeda, which was also featured in the sale with a 50% discount. Of course, one example a correlation does not make, but should you dig deeper I think that you'll find said correlation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 15:07:53 GMT
Throw in your opinions No. Neither should we get a sequel. They had 5 years and they fucked it up. At least I still have the trilogy for the memories. ... and still have the Trilogy as well... and I happen to have ME:A, which I also honestly enjoy. Sorry you didn't. Sucks to be you spending any money on a game you didn't enjoy. I spent my money on a game I do enjoy. IMO - that still makes me up on you by one even if no DLC gets released. If no DLC... no sequel and no reboot either. The ME3 endings stay as they are (which I'm OK with as well). It's that simple.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 5, 2017 15:10:30 GMT
Andromeda was a mistake. They sacrificed logic and made a huge retcon and added nothing to the series. I don't want to see Mass Effect dead though, so hopefully a reboot. No they didn't. I don't see any retcons or logic leaps. No more than the OR anyway. It's a sci fi space opera logic doesn't apply. And I don't see any retcons. Show me one mention of the Arks in the trilogy and I'll agree with you.
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I hope Bioware get another chance to make the mass effect game they want to make with no influence from random internet people's ideas of what a good mass effect game would be.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 5, 2017 15:14:55 GMT
I hope Bioware get another chance to make the mass effect game they want to make with no influence from random internet people's ideas of what a good mass effect game would be. Um, wasn't that game supposed to be Andromeda?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 5, 2017 15:15:19 GMT
A little over 3 months and it's marked down to $20. Lol, if you fanboys can't face reality and want to be part of a circle jerk among yourselves go ahead. The game was a massive disappointment. Battlefield 1 was a great success and was on sale a few months after it's release, so nothing new Edit: missing quote Indeed and so was DAI and in fact had a huge price drop just before it's first DLC unleashed apparently as well so lets not count MEA out yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 15:15:45 GMT
Show me one mention of the Arks in the trilogy and I'll agree with you. Remember when there were no vorcha in ME1? Or omniblades in ME2? What a plot hole, inconsistency, retcon, logic leap, etc.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 5, 2017 15:19:55 GMT
I hope Bioware get another chance to make the mass effect game they want to make with no influence from random internet people's ideas of what a good mass effect game would be. Let's hope so too.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 5, 2017 15:22:36 GMT
Show me one mention of the Arks in the trilogy and I'll agree with you. Remember when there were no vorcha in ME1? Or omniblades in ME2? What a plot hole, inconsistency, retcon, logic leap, etc. To be fair,a lot of people did point that out. I still remember the heat sink/ammo clip discussions.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 15:25:45 GMT
No they didn't. I don't see any retcons or logic leaps. No more than the OR anyway. It's a sci fi space opera logic doesn't apply. And I don't see any retcons. Show me one mention of the Arks in the trilogy and I'll agree with you. Show me any mention of Canada working on the Avro Arrow in a newspaper from, say, Afghanistan dated in the 1950s and I'll agree with you. Show me any US newspapers that regularly report on Canadian businesses and I'll even agree with you. Heck, show me a mention in Kotaku's recent press that some fans here are lobbying to get a DLC and I'll even agree with you. The Initiative project was easily just not reported on within the limited number of news reports we were given during the Trilogy. We were ust simply not exposed to "everything going on in the galaxy." The very fact that you Milky Way or die fans insist on pointing out that less than 1% of the Milky Way was explored during the Trilogy works against the idea that introducing an Initiative we weren't made aware of during the Trilogy is a "massive retcon." It's a small retcon... and nothing more.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 5, 2017 15:28:34 GMT
In the end, the main motivation for a reboot at all is the opportunity to redo the ending, but that's a lot of time and expense just to fix a trilogy's conclusion Is that the main reason? If that's the case, why not remake ME3 instead of the trilogy? If they remake ME3, have it with what was originally planned instead of what is currently seen. I like to have the coup take place after Thessia https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/1wyz7e/some_interesting_facts_about_me3s_development/ It might. No one will know until the trilogy is remade. If done, it might do very well. Don't know. My personal preference is to remake the trilogy, but I wouldn't place any bets that it will happen. I have for the last couple of years posted that the team working on MEA continues in Andromeda while EA brings in another team to work on ME in the Milky Way. I doubt it will happen. I would like a sequel to ME3. I like to see Shepard in another game. It wouldn't be hard for Bioware to make that happen. The guy did tell the kid that some details have changed over time. I'm sure the story told to him was different from the story he told the kid. Another thing is they could release a remastered version of the trilogy. I believe it would be contracted to an outside source for that to happen. I'm sure if I'm wrong about that, someone will correct me. How much would it cost for that to happen? How long would it take? Don't know. Would you buy a remastered version if it contains the main games, all dlc's and all weapon and armor packs for only $60? I would. What if it sells very well? Would that encourage EA to tell Bioware to bring Shepard back or at the very least make another game in the Milky Way? Don't know. The CEO of EA, Andrew Wilson, did say, back in May, "We’re very happy with how BioWare is doing and how BioWare is treating Mass Effect. Our expectations for Mass Effect are strong for the future." That tells me ME will be around for a while. I see dlc's being released for MEA and another ME game being released in 2021/22.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 15:32:26 GMT
In the end, the main motivation for a reboot at all is the opportunity to redo the ending, but that's a lot of time and expense just to fix a trilogy's conclusion Is that the main reason? If that's the case, why not remake ME3 instead of the trilogy? If they remake ME3, have it with what was originally planned instead of what is currently seen. I like to have the coup take place after Thessia https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/1wyz7e/some_interesting_facts_about_me3s_development/ It might. No one will know until the trilogy is remade. If done, it might do very well. Don't know. My personal preference is to remake the trilogy, but I wouldn't place any bets that it will happen. I have for the last couple of years posted that the team working on MEA continues in Andromeda while EA brings in another team to work on ME in the Milky Way. I doubt it will happen. I would like a sequel to ME3. I like to see Shepard in another game. It wouldn't be hard for Bioware to make that happen. The guy did tell the kid that some details have changed over time. I'm sure the story told to him was different from the story he told the kid. Another thing is they could release a remastered version of the trilogy. I believe it would be contracted to an outside source for that to happen. I'm sure if I'm wrong about that, someone will correct me. How much would it cost for that to happen? How long would it take? Don't know. Would you buy a remastered version if it contains the main games, all dlc's and all weapon and armor packs for only $60? I would. What if it sells very well? Would that encourage EA to tell Bioware to bring Shepard back or at the very least make another game in the Milky Way? Don't know. The CEO of EA, Andrew Wilson, did say, back in May, "We’re very happy with how BioWare is doing and how BioWare is treating Mass Effect. Our expectations for Mass Effect are strong for the future." That tells me ME will be around for a while. I see dlc's being released for MEA and another ME game being released in 2021/22. At this stage... you're just not going to convince EA to risk doing a reboot of a game that drew so much bad press that's part of a franchise that now appears to continue to draw so much bad press. EA is going to consider ME like a plague on their reputation now... they are not going to "sift through" all the little details to check to see if this little idea of reboot might repair or quell the swells of hate this franchise gets. They will just walk away from the ENTIRE franchise.
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Post by kino on Jul 5, 2017 15:35:53 GMT
Hmm, if the game has been very successful at launch, odds are you won't see deep discounts a few months after release. For instance, Sony recently had its Days of Play sale where Horizon Zero Dawn was 34% off. This game released about a month before Andromeda, which was also featured in the sale with a 50% discount. Of course, one example a correlation does not make, but should you dig deeper I think that you'll find said correlation. Let's take another game. Dishonored 2's November release was plagued with bugs and less than a month later it was 33% off. It was then 50% off in April and again 50% off in June on top of a 33% price reduction. It's not that unusual. DA:I, a GOTY game, dropped to half it's original listed price about 5 months after release. The same thing with ME3, if I remember correctly. It seems to be an action that EA/BioWare usually follow. Besides, it's the base game that dropped it's price, the Deluxe/Super Deluxe editions are still the same price. Fact is, most games sales plummet after the first week. Dropping the price on the base game after 4 months is an incentive to get people who were on the fence a reason to give it a go.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 5, 2017 15:38:44 GMT
Hmm, if the game has been very successful at launch, odds are you won't see deep discounts a few months after release. For instance, Sony recently had its Days of Play sale where Horizon Zero Dawn was 34% off. This game released about a month before Andromeda, which was also featured in the sale with a 50% discount. Of course, one example a correlation does not make, but should you dig deeper I think that you'll find said correlation. Let's take another game. Dishonored 2's November release was plagued with bugs and less than a month later it was 33% off. It was then 50% off in April and again 50% off in June on top of a 33% price reduction. It's not that unusual. DA:I, a GOTY game, dropped to half it's original listed price about 5 months after release. The same thing with ME3, if I remember correctly. It seems to be an action that EA/BioWare usually follow. Besides, it's the base game that dropped it's price, the Deluxe/Super Deluxe editions are still the same price. Fact is, most games sales plummet after the first week. Dropping the price on the base game after 4 months is an incentive to get people who were on the fence a reason to give it a go. I'm not disputing the fact that game prices drop over time but rather the drop percentage and how that can be related to initial sales, among other factors.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 5, 2017 15:40:25 GMT
At this stage... you're just not going to convince EA to risk doing a reboot of a game that drew so much bad press that's part of a franchise that now appears to continue to draw so much bad press. EA is going to consider ME like a plague on their reputation now... they are not going to "sift through" all the little details to check to see if this little idea of reboot might repair quell the swells of hate this franchise gets. They will just walk away from the ENTIRE franchise. I wasn't trying to convince EA of anything. I said its my personal preference to see the trilogy remade and that I wouldn't place any bets that it will happen.
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Post by vonuber on Jul 5, 2017 15:42:54 GMT
A little over 3 months and it's marked down to $20. Lol, if you fanboys can't face reality and want to be part of a circle jerk among yourselves go ahead. The game was a massive disappointment.
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Post by kino on Jul 5, 2017 15:44:29 GMT
It's not that unusual. DA:I, a GOTY game, dropped to half it's original listed price about 5 months after release. The same thing with ME3, if I remember correctly. It seems to be an action that EA/BioWare usually follow. Besides, it's the base game that dropped it's price, the Deluxe/Super Deluxe editions are still the same price. Fact is, most games sales plummet after the first week. Dropping the price on the base game after 4 months is an incentive to get people who were on the fence a reason to give it a go. I'm not disputing the fact that game prices drop over time but rather the drop percentage and how that can be related to initial sales, among other factors. I'm not sure if that relates to overall sales. One could make the argument, and believe me, I'm not saying this is true, the game sold well enough they can afford to cut the base game price...that was the common theory regarding DA:I's price drop. I just checked Origin, which I'll grant is only on PC, and it's still at full price. I know that if I were a retailer sitting on physical copies of ME:A I'd be willing to cut the cost to get the inventory off my shelves.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 15:52:49 GMT
At this stage... you're just not going to convince EA to risk doing a reboot of a game that drew so much bad press that's part of a franchise that now appears to continue to draw so much bad press. EA is going to consider ME like a plague on their reputation now... they are not going to "sift through" all the little details to check to see if this little idea of reboot might repair quell the swells of hate this franchise gets. They will just walk away from the ENTIRE franchise. I wasn't trying to convince EA of anything. I said its my personal preference to see the trilogy remade and that I wouldn't place any bets that it will happen. My personal preference is that we get DLC to ME:A and then both a sequel to ME:A and, eventually, a remake of the Trilogy. I'd like the whole thing to be popular enough that EA would see their way to doing all of that eventually. What's the harm in having this franchise be successful on several different fronts... even Anthem? The more success it enjoys, the more likely they'll be interest in a remake/reboot down the road. The thing is... that fandom and the gaming press have gone the opposite route... trashing every attempt Bioware has made to breathe some life back into this franchise... just because it wasn't precisely and instantly a redo of the endings in a very particular way. Yeah, ME:A has flaws... but it WAS getting trashed long before it was even released. Is it simply too late for this franchise to recover from all of that?... I don't know... optimist me hopes so, pessimist me doubts it.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 5, 2017 15:57:11 GMT
A little over 3 months and it's marked down to $20. Lol, if you fanboys can't face reality and want to be part of a circle jerk among yourselves go ahead. The game was a massive disappointment. My thoughts exactly Sara
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 5, 2017 16:06:39 GMT
Hmm, if the game has been very successful at launch, odds are you won't see deep discounts a few months after release. For instance, Sony recently had its Days of Play sale where Horizon Zero Dawn was 34% off. This game released about a month before Andromeda, which was also featured in the sale with a 50% discount. Of course, one example a correlation does not make, but should you dig deeper I think that you'll find said correlation. Let's take another game. Dishonored 2's November release was plagued with bugs and less than a month later it was 33% off. It was then 50% off in April and again 50% off in June on top of a 33% price reduction. Don't we need examples of games not having discounts to make any kind of argument here? (I can't play since I only follow PC prices.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 16:09:33 GMT
Is it simply too late for this franchise to recover from all of that?... I don't know... optimist me hopes so, pessimist me doubts it. The franchise doesn't need to recover. A bunch of self-centered sociopaths whining about the game, spouting homophobic and misogynistic garbage about the game and devs and even threatening a woman who worked on the game over complete lies, and a bunch of tabloid hacks unashamedly selling their souls to pander to these losers didn't stop the game from meeting its sales goals. EA and BioWare are not going to give a crap about people who simply want them to die, many of which quite literally, because a game isn't exactly what a bunch of crybabies on the internet want. They'll listen to sales, to people who've actually played the game, and that reaction is exactly why the Andromeda series is going to continue. Even if you'll still have a bunch of losers telling fans to die for commenting on the sequel's trailers. Only time will tell; but if no DLC, I'd have to say that would be a very strong indication that EA has lost faith in the franchise. If right now, they can't see their way to spend enough money on it to produce a SP DLC, they won't see their way to spend even more money to produce anything else.
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Post by warrior on Jul 5, 2017 16:48:29 GMT
Is it simply too late for this franchise to recover from all of that?... I don't know... optimist me hopes so, pessimist me doubts it. The franchise doesn't need to recover. A bunch of self-centered sociopaths whining about the game, spouting homophobic and misogynistic garbage about the game and devs and even threatening a woman who worked on the game over complete lies, and a bunch of tabloid hacks unashamedly selling their souls to pander to these losers didn't stop the game from meeting its sales goals. That harrassment of Leost was the most enraging thing, I think just you bringing it up has raised my heart rate. I wanted to reach through the screen and poke their fucking eyes out and crush them under my heel like The Bride. So unbelievable and embarrassing that her harassament was so well-attended Flynn had to issue an official statement -- really a great start to the whole Andromeda IP, for the GM to have to issue a statement to tell "Mass Effect fans" to stop threatening to rape and kill a woman over the animations in a video game. Really great, guys. Way to go.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 5, 2017 16:53:45 GMT
Hmm, if the game has been very successful at launch, odds are you won't see deep discounts a few months after release. For instance, Sony recently had its Days of Play sale where Horizon Zero Dawn was 34% off. This game released about a month before Andromeda, which was also featured in the sale with a 50% discount. Of course, one example a correlation does not make, but should you dig deeper I think that you'll find said correlation. Let's take another game. Dishonored 2's November release was plagued with bugs and less than a month later it was 33% off. It was then 50% off in April and again 50% off in June on top of a 33% price reduction. Don't we need examples of games not having discounts to make any kind of argument here? (I can't play since I only follow PC prices.) I can't recall a AAA release that didn't go on sale eventually. The trick is how long it takes for it to do so. The only company I can think of that takes longer to offer good discounts is Nintendo but their eShop is a bit of a mess.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 5, 2017 17:25:15 GMT
In the end, the main motivation for a reboot at all is the opportunity to redo the ending, but that's a lot of time and expense just to fix a trilogy's conclusion Is that the main reason? If that's the case, why not remake ME3 instead of the trilogy? If they remake ME3, have it with what was originally planned instead of what is currently seen. I like to have the coup take place after Thessia https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/1wyz7e/some_interesting_facts_about_me3s_development/ It might. No one will know until the trilogy is remade. If done, it might do very well. Don't know. My personal preference is to remake the trilogy, but I wouldn't place any bets that it will happen. I have for the last couple of years posted that the team working on MEA continues in Andromeda while EA brings in another team to work on ME in the Milky Way. I doubt it will happen. I would like a sequel to ME3. I like to see Shepard in another game. It wouldn't be hard for Bioware to make that happen. The guy did tell the kid that some details have changed over time. I'm sure the story told to him was different from the story he told the kid. Another thing is they could release a remastered version of the trilogy. I believe it would be contracted to an outside source for that to happen. I'm sure if I'm wrong about that, someone will correct me. How much would it cost for that to happen? How long would it take? Don't know. Would you buy a remastered version if it contains the main games, all dlc's and all weapon and armor packs for only $60? I would. What if it sells very well? Would that encourage EA to tell Bioware to bring Shepard back or at the very least make another game in the Milky Way? Don't know. The CEO of EA, Andrew Wilson, did say, back in May, "We’re very happy with how BioWare is doing and how BioWare is treating Mass Effect. Our expectations for Mass Effect are strong for the future." That tells me ME will be around for a while. I see dlc's being released for MEA and another ME game being released in 2021/22. Simply remaking ME3 is even more problematic. Part of the value of the trilogy is the carry-over of characters and events. Without that, I see no reason to bother, and would much rather live with the original trilogy that I already spent so much time (and money) on with all the available add-ons. Remastering is fine, though I'd be reluctant to spend much on that, and would absolutely require every story addition made for it for me to consider it.
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