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Post by ddrguy300 on Jul 6, 2017 21:30:46 GMT
As the title says. Here's everything you need to fix. I added extra information to personify exactly how moronic and stupid your development process of new content is by taking a guess at the original good idea from the resulting abortion of an execution:
1) The new guns. The good thought: Let's take and expand what present guns already do (i.e. siphon, bulwark, concussion)
Explored, but abandoned options of implementation: Make these available in mod form. Why you didn't do this, I really have no goddamn clue. This would have been worlds more acceptable to have these 3 weapon effect for each of the 4 weapon types as rare drops. Shit, even ultra rare drops would be better than the crap you have now.
The stupid execution: Every gun now comes in all three variants to rank X.
The acceptable execution: Every gun now comes in all three variants to JUST ONE RANK. The community would have even been more accepting of this variation on all guns as a one time UR drop than what is currently in the system, I'd bet. Also, see section about "mod" option.
The one minuscule thing you did right: I'm assuming these don't drop until the base weapon is X...
2) Boss objective: The good thought: Improve on this objective and make it a part of the random pool of objectives. Also, add boss units to other factions.
The stupid execution: Make this objective completely replace assassination and NOT have bosses ONLY appear during a boss objective.
The acceptable execution: Leave assassination alone and only have bosses spawn on boss objectives.
Greater consequences: You are double stupid here: Not only did you take out another whole objective that wasn't necessary and actually takes variety out of the game, you made bosses able to spawn outside of a Boss objective spawn, negating a good chunk of variety/what makes the change unique. You took out two aspects of variety in one action, one of those aspects being in the new addition you so brilliantly implemented.
3) Hack Objective: The good thought: Make hack a little more challenging.
The stupid execution: Make it exactly like upload only with one spot. No one tested this idea. I don't even have to ask the question because all it would take it one game of a beta test with both being hack to see that this was not a good plan. See next for suggestion that actually makes the objective interesting and keeps it different from upload, both of which you failed at.
The acceptable execution: Maybe increase the time it takes to hack about 50% without having enemies be able to interrupt it? This gives enemies more of a chance to overwhelm the team. Maybe have progress go backward only if everyone leaves the circle, even if there are no enemies present. This keeps it unique/different from upload.
Greater consequences: Gold and even Silver are unacceptably harder. Upload objective on Gold against Kett pre any patch caused less issues for this games playability than this change.
4) Weak point change with cobra rpgs. The good thought: Making things harder.
The stupid execution: Taking out weak point hits with cobras.
The acceptable execution: Have it so weak point hit Destroyers have enough health on platinum where they are still left with half armor and leave it the fuck alone everywhere else. There was no need for this change. You weak point hit a fiend or a hydra, they're still alive. It only makes them go down faster. Destroyers? Guess what, it was already proportional because 1) while you can one shot them with their bodies open, they dish out the most damage of any other big unit and 2) The cost of using a rocket is worth that/those kill(s) because that ultimately becomes the consumable you need to buy more packs for. Also, if I land a weak point hit on any of the other smaller units for whatever reason/crowd control tactics, there's no reason why I shouldn't get that multiplier, because that's a rocket I could have used on a bigger guy.
P.S. to this: Did you even fix the fucking ascendant bug that happens with cobras?
5) Platinum: The good thought: Make Platinum. Maybe add more objectives.
The stupid execution: Negative Boss, Hack objective and cobra weak point change execution consequences combined. Hacks with Boss units, triple berserkers, and whatever other shit storm variant happens in Kett and Outlaw on Platinum = an unplayable/unwinnable game.
The acceptable execution: See ME3 Platinum. The idea of more objectives by itself (ignoring above travesties) is livable.
6) Ultra Rare weapon drop in Mission funds store: The good thought: Buyable UR cards with MF.
The stupid execution: Make it almost 1000 MF while also (and this is the giant middle finger here) nearly quadrupling the UR drop pool.
The acceptable execution: Make it no more than 300 MF. As someone who has only bought the new gear pieces as they come in the store and someone who also has 6 apex teams and does missions with them daily getting about 3/4 of all possible mission funds (probably upped to 4/5 with MF points from dailies), only having 4500 MF at patch release, being able to afford close to only 5 UR drops is a fucking insult, again, ESPECIALLY after the pool expansion.
7) Character cards to rank XX and their bonuses. The good thought: Give kits the ability to have more survivability to take on platinum.
The stupid execution: Giving kits DOUBLE the card drops and NOT then giving players access to all skill points possible.
The acceptable execution: If not the OBVIOUS choice of RELEASING ALL SKILL POINTS TO A XX KIT, which everyone would have died over, this would have been much better received if you also gave health and shield boosts in addition to damage boosts. Honestly though, I think I would have just not done anything with this... Reduce health and damage of plat enemies slightly = same result.
Conclusion: You've made the game 90% unplayable compared to what it was in 1.08. I will be shocked if this isn't the end of this game. Way to fuck yourselves... again... Please stop making changes that only support a lack of basic intelligence and forethought withing your group of devs. It's like you're all a group of "yes men" to one single person who is an idiot.
All of these decisions will drive away much of your player base and your servers will soon barely have a pulse.
Just release control of this poor creature to the public before you inflict any more abuse upon it. We'll provide good servers and only treat it with the best care. We understand that you aren't able to do that, and that's ok. But please stop pretending that you have an fucking clue whatsoever of how to take care of your own baby. It's time to consider adoption if you want it to have any future.
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Post by mrfuddyduddy on Jul 6, 2017 21:46:29 GMT
I don't know if anyone has gotten the new variants of the weapons past rank I because they seem to already be the Rank X version of the weapon.
Got the M5-Phalanx Concussive I earlier and it has the same exact stats as the M5-Phalanx X
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Post by Pearl on Jul 6, 2017 21:48:39 GMT
I'm no stranger to games where the team in charge of patches gets infiltrated by lobotomized chimpanzees, but this has to take the cake as one of the most awe-inspiringly bad patches I've seen.
edit: This video adequately sums up my reactions to the new patch, since I'm still a bit at a loss for words over how dumb the majority of the changes are.
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Post by ddrguy300 on Jul 6, 2017 21:48:46 GMT
I don't know if anyone has gotten the new variants of the weapons past rank I because they seem to already be the Rank X version of the weapon. Got the M5-Phalanx Concussive I earlier and it has the same exact stats as the M5-Phalanx X I have. They go past I.
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Post by mrfuddyduddy on Jul 6, 2017 21:51:33 GMT
I don't know if anyone has gotten the new variants of the weapons past rank I because they seem to already be the Rank X version of the weapon. Got the M5-Phalanx Concussive I earlier and it has the same exact stats as the M5-Phalanx X I have. They go past I. So then the new variants at X would basically be like having the default weapon at XX? Also how the hell does that work, does the damage just keep getting higher? Does the weight continue to drop?(which if it does that is going to be funny as hell for whoever gets that Soned Siphon X and it weighs like 3 lol)
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Post by gethadept on Jul 6, 2017 21:54:23 GMT
Reading things here on BSN just made me want to stick to Gold and never try Platinum ever..
..and yes.. it is very saddening to hear how they changed Hack mission..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 22:04:20 GMT
"Calmly explaining why YOU ARE MORONS FOR NOT DOING EXACTLY WHAT I WANT GRAAAAAGGGHHHH"
I'm sure your opinion is worth plenty when it is rooted entirely in attacking the devs.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 6, 2017 22:12:11 GMT
I don't know if anyone has gotten the new variants of the weapons past rank I because they seem to already be the Rank X version of the weapon. Got the M5-Phalanx Concussive I earlier and it has the same exact stats as the M5-Phalanx X I have Mattock Concussive II. The extra ability is what continues to rank up. The base weapon stats stay the same as vanilla X.
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Post by ddrguy300 on Jul 6, 2017 22:16:28 GMT
"Calmly explaining why YOU ARE MORONS FOR NOT DOING EXACTLY WHAT I WANT GRAAAAAGGGHHHH" I'm sure your opinion is worth plenty when it is rooted entirely in attacking the devs. Thanks bsn... response gone. TL:DR: It's an appropriate formulaic tone (calm into rage) based on the reads and deductive reasonings from the situation.
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Post by Kazu on Jul 6, 2017 22:56:12 GMT
Just a crazy idea. Maybe Bioware and other companies should try to hire based on skill, not on whatever the cool new hipe is.
Also what is that purple plastic pet? Some alt account of a certain someone to spew even more idiotic things?
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Post by misguidedworm7 on Jul 7, 2017 1:20:51 GMT
Has anyone else's kineticist taken a day off to get an ungodly bronze spray tan. It wouldn't be an issue if it was a skin tone slider being in the wrong place if she HAD A SKIN TONE SLIDER...Bronzed
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Jul 7, 2017 1:25:24 GMT
1. I actually like the idea of new old guns now comming with built in added effects. Also I have yet to get an UR specialty gun or character. Got 18URs in 3.4M Do not buy the 600K pack..... ripoff...
2. I don't get the complaint here really, its a new objective that isn't really needed, thats not really something bad, just unneeded.
3.Stop playing with pugs, or play on a easier difficulty.
4.You have a total of 20 rockets that dropped and "negated" the bosses of the entire 7 waves... I'm glad there is less of a handout.
5. I don't think platinum was meant for you... seeing as your having difficulties in gold and silver.
6. Your paying for a 100% UR... do you expect it to be free?
7. This is also another point I don't get. I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new cards bonues, buying premiums for just consumables sucks balls, now people with maxed manifest, even with 30m saved up will still be spending maxing things out. And platinum pays out 1.3 premium packs...wont take to long.
Conclusion, this was the best thing that bioware has done since they started this game. I haven't tested out the venom yet, but if its sexy, ohh boy...
Sounds like you really should rethink how you play. And adapt... that's kinda the whole point of platinum, people adapted so well they needed something more intense. (played on a friends account, I haven't used a controller to play a game in a year, extracted on platinum 1st game, shyt was a handout) I really like the new additions...
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Post by ddrguy300 on Jul 7, 2017 1:49:38 GMT
1. I actually like the idea of new old guns now comming with built in added effects. Also I have yet to get an UR specialty gun or character. Got 18URs in 3.4M Do not buy the 600K pack..... ripoff... 2. I don't get the complaint here really, its a new objective that isn't really needed, thats not really something bad, just unneeded. 3.Stop playing with pugs, or play on a easier difficulty. 4.You have a total of 20 rockets that dropped and "negated" the bosses of the entire 7 waves... I'm glad there is less of a handout. 5. I don't think platinum was meant for you... seeing as your having difficulties in gold and silver. 6. Your paying for a 100% UR... do you expect it to be free? 7. This is also another point I don't get. I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new cards bonues, buying premiums for just consumables sucks balls, now people with maxed manifest, even with 30m saved up will still be spending maxing things out. And platinum pays out 1.3 premium packs...wont take to long. Conclusion, this was the best thing that bioware has done since they started this game. I haven't tested out the venom yet, but if its sexy, ohh boy... Sounds like you really should rethink how you play. And adapt... that's kinda the whole point of platinum, people adapted so well they needed something more intense. (played on a friends account, I haven't used a controller to play a game in a year, extracted on platinum 1st game, shyt was a handout) I really like the new additions... 1) The major problem with the guns is the way the drop system works now. Getting standard UR cards to X now, assuming there's no fail safe, is going to take exponentially longer. 2) Boss objective stupidly implemented. 3) Stupid change that makes the objective just a single upload. No creativity. PUGS are what happen when you want to play but no one else is on. Stupid argument is stupid. Pugs are a necessary evil at times when it's just you. 4) They counter this already. I've seen 3 destroyers at once on Plat, god knowing where ever the Progenitor is. Plus, hello, there are other bosses? Kill off one or two destroyers, fine. Now go deal with the others. 5) Gold and Silver's changed hack just makes them overall unnecessarily more difficult. It's not harder because it's harder, it's harder because they just threw more of a wild card in the mix. Again, no creativity. I've adjusted fine, but shit can still hit the fan on gold sometimes, yes with pugs. 6) It's stupid because it's insulting and pointless. Insulting: Mass stockpile of MF since release = 5 cards after they add almost 6 fucking hundred. Pointless: Apparently the new mods will only drop from the store. Why then would anyone buy a random UR for mission funds when the only way to get this other piece of gear is with MF? 7) Yeah, it's going to take a while. After spending 8 mil, I calculated I've still got about 700 rares to go. That's a little under 700 gold games. That's 175 in game hours. Play platinum only, that's almost 90. Realistically play platinum and extract, at best, 75% of the time, that's a bit over 65 hours. And if the new UR drops hold, tack on those dropping in place of rares too. That's gotta be at least a 33% time add on. On paper, manageable? A hike, but I guess you'll eventually get there, but then low and behold the UR mountain after the fact. About this being the best thing to happen to the game, you're high.
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Post by onehitparry on Jul 7, 2017 2:24:08 GMT
6. Your paying for a 100% UR... do you expect it to be free? Each of us presumable bought a copy of the game.
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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Jul 7, 2017 2:48:40 GMT
1. I actually like the idea of new old guns now comming with built in added effects. Also I have yet to get an UR specialty gun or character. Got 18URs in 3.4M Do not buy the 600K pack..... ripoff... 2. I don't get the complaint here really, its a new objective that isn't really needed, thats not really something bad, just unneeded. 3.Stop playing with pugs, or play on a easier difficulty. 4.You have a total of 20 rockets that dropped and "negated" the bosses of the entire 7 waves... I'm glad there is less of a handout. 5. I don't think platinum was meant for you... seeing as your having difficulties in gold and silver. 6. Your paying for a 100% UR... do you expect it to be free? 7. This is also another point I don't get. I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new cards bonues, buying premiums for just consumables sucks balls, now people with maxed manifest, even with 30m saved up will still be spending maxing things out. And platinum pays out 1.3 premium packs...wont take to long. Conclusion, this was the best thing that bioware has done since they started this game. I haven't tested out the venom yet, but if its sexy, ohh boy... Sounds like you really should rethink how you play. And adapt... that's kinda the whole point of platinum, people adapted so well they needed something more intense. (played on a friends account, I haven't used a controller to play a game in a year, extracted on platinum 1st game, shyt was a handout) I really like the new additions... 1) The major problem with the guns is the way the drop system works now. Getting standard UR cards to X now, assuming there's no fail safe, is going to take exponentially longer. 2) Boss objective stupidly implemented. 3) Stupid change that makes the objective just a single upload. No creativity. PUGS are what happen when you want to play but no one else is on. Stupid argument is stupid. Pugs are a necessary evil at times when it's just you. 4) They counter this already. I've seen 3 destroyers at once on Plat, god knowing where ever the Progenitor is. Plus, hello, there are other bosses? Kill off one or two destroyers, fine. Now go deal with the others. 5) Gold and Silver's changed hack just makes them overall unnecessarily more difficult. It's not harder because it's harder, it's harder because they just threw more of a wild card in the mix. Again, no creativity. I've adjusted fine, but shit can still hit the fan on gold sometimes, yes with pugs. 6) It's stupid because it's insulting and pointless. Insulting: Mass stockpile of MF since release = 5 cards after they add almost 6 fucking hundred. Pointless: Apparently the new mods will only drop from the store. Why then would anyone buy a random UR for mission funds when the only way to get this other piece of gear is with MF? 7) Yeah, it's going to take a while. After spending 8 mil, I calculated I've still got about 700 rares to go. That's a little under 700 gold games. That's 175 in game hours. Play platinum only, that's almost 90. Realistically play platinum and extract, at best, 75% of the time, that's a bit over 65 hours. And if the new UR drops hold, tack on those dropping in place of rares too. That's gotta be at least a 33% time add on. On paper, manageable? A hike, but I guess you'll eventually get there, but then low and behold the UR mountain after the fact. About this being the best thing to happen to the game, you're high. Dude i don't know what you expected platinum to be, but let me tell you.... IT IS THE BEST FUCKING THING BIOWARE HAS EVER DONE IN MASS EFFECT ANDROMEDA. Really sounds to me like your playing in platinum, and not really equipped, or mentally ready for it. It is the HARDEST difficulty in the game, and more than likely going to be the hardest (I'm ready for diamond ) As for the additional weapons, from what it seems, and i'm about 99% on this, you only get the specialty weapons and XI-XX cards if you have the characters/weapons at level X already, which means you aren't really going to get into any sort of grind, until you max out at least 1 UR. If you actually have a maxed out UR X and not all your rares unlocked, BEFORE the patch came out, your spending your funds all wrong anyway. The hack improvement is literally that, and improvement, there is NOTHING wrong with the new hack. There is something WRONG with players who can't adapt. Honestly if you had just came into MEAMP and hacks were the way they are now, I don't think you'd have an issue. I think its more along the line of "I want that old (easy) thing back." The bosses on bosses on bosses, are only in platinum. (again don't 100% me on this cause honestly, i've been in platinum since I started back up) IF your having an issue killing the vanilla bosses, then your not ready. Not saying your bad, maybe your weapons aren't high enough. In reality I would believe Platinum is for those with maxed or close to maxed out manifest. If your comming into platinum with a level 8 equilizer, uh yeah your going to have fudgin problems... You need hard hitting weapons, and basically high level URs, I can't see anyone busting platinum in a "timely manner" with an avenger, my hurricane V actually SUCKS in platinum. ( I love platinum )
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Jul 7, 2017 6:40:38 GMT
Reading things here on BSN just made me want to stick to Gold and never try Platinum ever.. ..and yes.. it is very saddening to hear how they changed Hack mission.. I'm the same. I don't dare and try platinum anytime soon. I am good on Silver, I end up second place almost every time on the score board and on gold I do okay now if I'm playing with friends who are really good but platinum..... lol.... just lol... I'd die... a LOT
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Post by wingerjd on Jul 7, 2017 7:12:09 GMT
One thing still wrong with 1.09 is the audio glitch. Sound went out on me twice today-once on host and once off host.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Jul 7, 2017 7:42:52 GMT
Wow, just read some of the other threads, is the new patch really that bad?
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Post by Transcended One on Jul 7, 2017 7:49:14 GMT
Wow, just read some of the other threads, is the new patch really that bad? Nah not at all. But it's bad for people with OCD.
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Post by kalil on Jul 7, 2017 7:52:50 GMT
Wow, just read some of the other threads, is the new patch really that bad? No. Its great. Platinum is very nice and pays a metric ton of credits to buy those packs and gets those upgrades. People are just hysterical as per usual.
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Post by kalil on Jul 7, 2017 7:53:51 GMT
Wow, just read some of the other threads, is the new patch really that bad? Nah not at all. But it's bad for people with OCD. Game on tonight? I am in need of platinum farming!
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Post by Kenny Bania on Jul 7, 2017 7:57:54 GMT
No. Its great. Platinum is very nice and pays a metric ton of credits to buy those packs and gets those upgrades. People are just hysterical as per usual. Care to explain how the bloated rare and UR pool is a "great" thing?
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Post by xaijin on Jul 7, 2017 8:01:57 GMT
Wow, just read some of the other threads, is the new patch really that bad? In all my years game design I have seen two things this bad: FFXIV initial launch and Aliens: Colonial Marines. It's just a mess, and render PUG play completely worthless. The best part is the way matchmaking works you can't start a solo platinum game AND they haven't fixed the host recognition issue yet, so your choices are subject people simply picking random to instant platinum regardless of their level of gear or skill, or wait for about an hour for the server to realize you're hosting. Simply amazing that a string of this many poor decisions could be implemented on a title in trouble from the first playtest. Just astounding.
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Post by kaileena_sands on Jul 7, 2017 8:05:54 GMT
Wow, just read some of the other threads, is the new patch really that bad? OWA, the new content from the patch is fun but of course it comes attached with Bioware's stupidly implemented strings. Let me put it in a context you'll appreciate (or not appreciate ). You're still missing the Reegar right? Because of their addition of character ranks to 20 and each weapon reapeating 3 times (concussive, bulwark, and siphon), your chances of getting the Reegar (and let alone getting it to a decent level) just decreased a few times. In perspective, I've had every rare maxed until yesterday and I haven't gotten the new Batarian character yet after 1.5 million thrown at the store. Ofc some people have had better luck but I'll be checking how much credits it will take me to get him. I am keeping score, biower. :gentleman:
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Post by kalil on Jul 7, 2017 8:12:09 GMT
No. Its great. Platinum is very nice and pays a metric ton of credits to buy those packs and gets those upgrades. People are just hysterical as per usual. Care to explain how the bloated rare and UR pool is a "great" thing? Stop whining. You earn credits three times as fast now.
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