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Post by snook on Oct 7, 2017 8:37:15 GMT
They borrowed it
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Post by Sifr on Oct 23, 2017 22:43:24 GMT
You never borrow a boat, you commandeer it.
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Dec 3, 2017 16:48:47 GMT
A nice video of visiting the American WW2 Balao class submarine Bowfin. What strikes - when comparing to German Type VIIC - is the sheer luxury and comfort of the american model (it is of course twice as large, deplacementwise). Even if it is almost as crowded due to 80 crew rather than 50, spaces are less cramped. I'd rather be with two other persons inside a closet, than with one other person inside a cupboard. Also, despite the larger crew, there really isn't much more work to go around on the larger vessel. Four diesel engines instead of two, and more cooking and more laundry, but that's pretty much it. Workloads should thus be lower. Of course, cruises were longer and hotter. I'd much rather serve in the american WW2 submarine Cadillac fleet than the German Kurbelwagen. Also because the survival rate was much, much greater. Some additional info. 1,550 tonnes 95 meter long 10 torpedo tubes, 24 torpedos 11,000 nautical miles +20 knots on the surface -9 knots submerged submerged endurance 48h. 120 m diving depth (same as type VIIC, but the germans routinely went deeper in desperation to escape. Dangerously deep. The greatest depth a german sub is supposed to have survived is 240m, which is sorta logical since that is just on top of it's engineering crush depth.) P.S. He briefly mentioned the gun armament. The way this worked on most relevant US sub classes, was that it was up to the individual commander. That's right, gun armament was a custom choice. In this particular case, it's (I think) one 4 inch, one 40 mm Bofors and two .50 brownings. The superstructures also varied and was sometimes changed/rebuilt between missions. In general they tended to cut them down progressively, to offer less silhouette.
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Dec 28, 2017 21:42:38 GMT
Okay, we're doing 'Baltimore Clippers' today. Which, I think is the origin of the term 'Clipper', correct me if I'm wrong.
These were originally fast merchant ships. They became better known in their military function as privateers during the 1812 year war. As all american ships they relied on speed to operate around the British (and others) navy with impunity.
They were mostly two-masted topsail schooners, but there were brigantines and pure schooners as well. There are no such ships preserved, but there have emerged a number of replicas in the last decades.
A longer HD video on Lynx.
The most successful privateer captain of 1812 war was a Thomas Boyle, who captured more than 40 (forty some) british ships, including a couple of navy ships (I believe). These around the british West Indies and around the British Isles. He even formally declared Britain in blockade. Half of his victories were achieved with a ship named Comet. The other half with a ship named Chasseur.
Chasseur earned the nickname 'Pride of Baltimore'. 1977 a replica was built and named Pride of Baltimore. Unfortunately she was lost with a loss of four, in a squall in 1986, pulled down by her sails and running rig made from modern materials, which didn't break as the originals would have. Thus a new ship was built 1988 and named Pride of Baltimore II.
The info on the YT page of this video is wrong, btw, but it's a nice video.
A longer video.
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I've always had a soft spot for ships of the Great White Fleet. My jr. high school had pieces and memorials to the USS Maine everywhere, which may have triggered my preference. USS Maine (ACR-1) USS Olympia (C-6) This lady is in desperate need of some TLC... SS United States
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Post by vertigomez on Apr 1, 2018 9:51:28 GMT
I opened this thread expecting a very different kind of ship.
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"Mr. Secretary of State, the oak is now ready for delivery"In 1807 Denmark was defeated by England in what is known as the "Bombardment of Copenhagen". As usual, someone was at each others throats on the European continent. We were about to side with Napoleon and he wasn't too popular across the canal. Thus, we lost a major portion of our fleet. When it was time to rebuild the fleet, we ran into a little problem: We were out of oak tree so the king started a plantation campaign to restore our oak forests. It took some patience but in 2003 we could once again provide the the navy with timber. So beware world! We are now ready to regain our place among the dominant naval powers Instead of being turned into weapons of war, these "naval oak" forests can now be enjoyed by future generations with a few trees felled for restoration purposes. The American yacht Coronet from 1885 was rebuilt with naval oak. If you want a career in our merchant marine, you can apply for a tour (usually 6 months) on one of these two ships to learn seamanship skills from the time when wind was the propulsion. "Danmark" length 77 m (252 ft) beam 9,8 m (32 ft) launched in 1933, crew of 80 "Georg Stage" length 54 m (177 ft) beam 8,4 m (28 ft) launched in 1934, crew of 73
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And with that, I have done the most important thing one can do on the internet: contributed. *smugface*
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Post by mousestalker on Apr 1, 2018 13:14:30 GMT
I opened this thread expecting a very different kind of ship. I ship Loki and Thor. Does that help? And here's a picture of a ship:
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Post by House Targaryen on Apr 1, 2018 16:05:01 GMT
They are works of art besides being ships of war. Think of the hours it took to carve that out from wood.
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YamatoNaval Legends: Yamato A scene from Yamato (2005) - There was a clean cut from the film on YouTube, but it's been taken down; all I could find was one with music added. Note: The scene is graphic.
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Navy Accepts Delivery of Future USS Michael MonsoorThe Associated Press 25 Apr 2018BATH, Maine — The Navy has accepted delivery of the second of three stealthy destroyers. A statement from Naval Sea Systems Command on Tuesday indicates the future USS Michael Monsoor successfully completed extensive tests, trials and demonstrations by shipbuilder Bath Iron Works. ...
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on May 23, 2018 19:41:15 GMT
Here's something I just happened to stumble on. I have never built a wooden ship model, and I'm pretty sure I never will. But I do know which would be one of the craziest subject possible!
England's 'Sovereign of the Seas' is a very strong candidate for 'The most extensively and richest decorated ship'. It was also judged as a bit too top heavy and too heavy. As she was ballasted to be stiff and stable enough, the main gun deck was too close to the water and could only be used in fair weather.
So 'Sovereign of the Seas' was eventually modified. A lot of heavy sculptures were removed, and I believe topmost decks were also cut off. This resulted in a better handling ship that was renamed 'Royal Sovereign'. 'Sovereign of the Seas/Royal Sovereign' was the Dreadnaught of her time. She was much more dominant than the later, more well known Victory.
Anyway, here's a crazy german who scratchbuilt 'Sovereign of the Seas' (in only 3½ years, which seems remarkable to me).
The second video documents the building process. The first shows off the finished model. This lunatic made every sculpture by hand in pear wood.
Enjoy the magnificence of the ship model and admire the craftsmanship and daunting patience.
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Post by House Targaryen on May 25, 2018 4:22:17 GMT
YamatoNaval Legends: Yamato A scene from Yamato (2005) - There was a clean cut from the film on YouTube, but it's been taken down; all I could find was one with music added. Note: The scene is graphic.
It would have been something to see their prized battleship go up against one of ours. A ship like that deserved a better fate than what it got. Sunk by air craft torpedoes I believe.
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Post by Sundance31us on May 25, 2018 12:59:59 GMT
YamatoNaval Legends: Yamato A scene from Yamato (2005) - There was a clean cut from the film on YouTube, but it's been taken down; all I could find was one with music added. Note: The scene is graphic. It would have been something to see their prized battleship go up against one of ours. A ship like that deserved a better fate than what it got. Sunk by air craft torpedoes I believe.
Both Yamato and her sister Musashi were destroyed by bomber and torpedo bomber aircraft originating from aircraft carriers. There were six US battleships 7 cruisers and 21 destroyers waiting as a contingency force if the air attacks failed.
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on May 26, 2018 17:10:34 GMT
Today, we're doing the '74-gun ship of line'. www.modelships.de/Melville_Beining/gIMG_3491.jpgThe french 'invented' the 74-gun type. It started to gain real popularity around 1750-1760 and petered out around 1830-1840. Some of these ships were in service for around 50 years so managed to be around to see most of the golden age of the 'ship-of-line'. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Achille_mp3h9307.jpg'74-gun ship-of-line' was a type of ship that was tremendously prolific during the Napoleonic age. The British Royal Navy had 150 of these built, the French almost as many and to that we also have to add the sizable Russian, Spanish and Dutch fleets. The British navy ultimately operated even more than one hundred fifty 74-gunners, because they also included many ships captured from France and other nations. (For those of you who know your C.S. Forester, Hornblower's famous HMS Sutherland was a '74-gun' of Dutch origins.) During this era, the 74-gun was the main tool and exponent of naval power, presence and power projection. While big 100 and 100+ gun ships like HMS Victory probably comes first in most peoples' mind today, it was really the 74-gun that was the the battleship/aircraft carrier of its time. It was the 74-gun that was the British naval power at its zenith, not the first-rates like HMS Victory. And it was the 74-gun that was also the core of the challenge to that British power. This was the ship that sailed all over the world in long deployments lasting many months or even years, blockaded enemies and provided the main weight when fighting the big famous battles. Why? What's so special? The first clue comes from 100-gun HMS Victory herself. Not long before Nelson made her his flagship and took her to Trafalgar, she was deemed ”unfit for service”. -Yep!! The second clue is that all 74-gun ships are two-deckers. That is, they have only two battery decks. And that is no coincidence. It's the raison de etre for the 74-gun ship of the line. And here, at this point, we can go technical – and I intend to, while I must warn you that my ”expertice” in ship-building is rather superficial, not like... some other things - , but the short of it is that the 74-gun ship was the largest two-deck ship that could be built solidly and cost effectively at the time. So why want only two gun decks? Isn't more better? Well, yea it is, when you're blasting away in an artillery slugmatch. But what happens is that the ship tends to become rather high and catch a lot of wind, perhaps even almost as much as the sails. And that with more gun decks stacked upon the deplacement that is supposed to carry them, the lowest gun deck tend to come out rather close to the water, when the ship has been sufficiently ballasted to balance all that top weight. Being close to the water, means their usefulness is limited. Like on the leeway side, when the ship heels over. Or in weather, with waves and ship rolling. The sometimes necessity of keeping gun ports of the lowest, ”main” battery closed, means that you don't really have a 100-gun ship anymore. What's worse is that it's the heaviest guns that are out of play. Put into figures, it meant that a first rate ship lumbered around at 4 knot, while a 74-gun ship could normally do 8 knot, and even sail at 10-11 knot in favorable conditions. A completely different (and practical) proposition. So why not a single battery deck then? If less gun decks is more? Well, it is – would you believe it -, provided you can make bigger and more effective guns, to be carried in fewer numbers – and that is precisely what happened later, in naval history. But at this time they couldn't. They only had black powder, cast iron and bronze guns of limited size and solid, round shots. So they depended on many guns to pepper the enemy. So there we have it. The 74-gun ship of line was a highly practical vessel, maneuverable, weatherly, solid and sound. The type practically exterminated the class of 'second-rate' three-deck ships (74-gun is 'third rate'), because not only was it so much better as a sailing ship, but duels with second-rates were often an even contest, even ending in victories. Finally, it was cheaper. While a deployed naval squadron would sometimes contain some 100&+100-gun 'first rate' ship/ships, those would typically not be much active. They would be comfortable quarters and head quarters for the Admirals, but it would be the 74-gunners that would flit around making a nuisance of themselves. Only if a major engagement sailed up, would the three-decker raise anchor and lumber along to throw its weight into the battle, going for the pivot point, the best&worst position, where its guns and thick sides would make the most difference. 'First rate' ships like HMS Victory had two purposes: House the top brass and be a moveable artillery platform. It was up to the 74-gunner to be the real work horse. What ended the dominance of the 74-gun? Well, several things at the same time. One of them was the same trick that the 74-gun type had originally pulled: Bigger two-deckers. 80-90 guns. And the same progress in ship construction that had made bigger again two-deckers possible, also resulted in better three-deckers. So 'first rate' ships became more generally relevant. ...And then, of course, soon would follow steam and iron clad. Britain converted 10 of their 74-gun ship of the line to “American” 50-gun Frigates. I briefly touched this in my post on the American Frigates. Armament of the 74-gun would be : Originally: First deck, 36-pound cannons. Second deck, 18-pound cannons. Or, later and more typical and more British: First deck, 32-pound cannons. Second deck, 24-pound cannons. The British tended to standardize heaviest armament as much as possible to their 32-pound cannon. Some ships of low draft, Danish, Dutch, would go down to even 32&18 or 24&18 pound. Besides the guns on the battery decks, the 74-guns would also carry a dozen or more guns on the upper decks. These would typically be 12-pounders or 9-pounders, early. Later, the British would supplant much more powerful 32-pound carronades for these. The British rating system: In the beginning, Britain built sailing galleons and armed them with cannons. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/English_Galleon_Model.jpgThis was the concept all of Elizabeth’s famous men favoured and believed in, and which they regularly defeated the Spanish with. And it basically became the pattern for European warships. But as they built them big and small there was a need to understand how to use them better. Thus Britain tried to classify the strength/size of the ship. This is the rating system. It came about at the beginning of the 1600's and was changed a few times. During the times we speak of (74-gun) here, the system was as such: First rate = 100 guns or more. Second rate = 84 – 99 guns. Third rate = 64 – 80 guns. Fourth rate = 46 – 60 guns. Fifth rate = 32 – 44 guns. Sixth rate = 20 – 30 guns. In practice, fourth rate were rather rare by this time, but made a re-appearance as the big American style "Frigates". Fifth rate didn't really exist, having evolved into Frigates. Besides the lower numbers of guns on the smaller ships, the guns themselves were also smaller. Only first, second and third rate carried the heaviest calibers. Which would be 36-, 32-, 24- and 18 pounders. And these three rates are what is called "Ship of the Line". They roughly corresponds to later battleships. Second rate became rare during the reign of the 74-gun ship, but picked up later, as they started to build two-deck second rates. Fourth rate first disappeared, but became, at Napoleonic times, the big American type of Frigates. USA built five, Britain followed up with 10, rebuilt from 74-guns. 24 pounders, 18 pounders and 32 - 24 pounder Carronades. They roughly correspond to later battlecruisers, though unlike them, the big frigates were very well armored, having thick sides. Fifth rate became the type well known as 'Frigate'. Typically 12 pounders. But later, some 18 pounders. They roughly correspond to later times' cruisers. Sixth rate became known as Corvettes and Sloops (formally 'Sloop of War', not the same as civilian, small, single mast 'Sloops'), if they were three-masted and ship-rigged. . 12, 9, 6 pounders. These corresponds to later destroyers. (American "Sloops" were often much bigger though, particularly later. So these ships correspond to cruisers. They differed from frigates by having armament only on one deck. To compensate the fewer number of guns, the guns were typically big. )
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Jul 28, 2018 0:05:39 GMT
Sad. But what can you do?
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Oct 12, 2018 16:49:32 GMT
Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Oct 12, 2018 16:49:32 GMT
A thorough walkthrough of HMS Victory.
Note how the guns and cannonballs become bigger as you descend to each lower deck.
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Oct 12, 2018 16:55:32 GMT
Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Oct 12, 2018 16:55:32 GMT
Another walkthrough. HMS Warrior. An "Ironclad". For a brief time the most powerful and modern warship in the world. Warrior is much larger than Victory. Yet, she has "only" 40 guns. But what guns! 68-pounders.
While the contemporaries of Victory could have a service life around 50 years, Warrior only stayed relevant for about 10 years. This was a time when warship technology moved very rapidly.
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Unapologetic Western Chauvinist. Barefoot. Great Toenails
3,788
August 2016
bevesthda
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Oct 19, 2018 18:01:19 GMT
Some museum tours
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