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Post by dragontartare on Jun 26, 2017 16:53:57 GMT
Which side quests do you tend to do? Companion content tends to be the most rewarding for me, but there are a couple of really cool ones that have little to nothing to do with companions. Or if sticking to the main story isn't working for you, then maybe you need to start a completionist run and see how it goes. Or maybe DAI just isn't your thing, especially if you hate the lore that much. We're all different. I did parts of Hinterlands, Sword Coast, Mire, Exalted/Graves and Hissing Wastes and iirc avoided all other areas. I did cutscene quests with companions (but not their gathering quests) save for Iron Bull and Blackwall (and not interested). The only sidequest I liked was one in some temple with mosaics on the walls, it felt more like a dungeon. I thought I should try the Dwarven Quest from DLC, and quit afterwards, because it will take all my power points to unlock it, and I don't want to start scraping together 50 points from scratch to unlock Fade Quest and the dreaded Winter Palace (basically my most hated part of the game save for Trespasser). I like Descent a lot, though I believe for most people it is their least favorite DLC. Maybe you're actually skipping out on too much? I'm finding that I like MEA more now that I'm forcing myself to do companion quests, even for the companions I don't like. I had tried sticking to the main story and vaults for a while because I wasn't really enjoying the game, and I think that was a mistake. That said, I do actually like the ME universe as a whole, whereas you don't seem to like DA much in general (except DA2, iirc)?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 17:18:20 GMT
I did parts of Hinterlands, Sword Coast, Mire, Exalted/Graves and Hissing Wastes and iirc avoided all other areas. I did cutscene quests with companions (but not their gathering quests) save for Iron Bull and Blackwall (and not interested). The only sidequest I liked was one in some temple with mosaics on the walls, it felt more like a dungeon. I thought I should try the Dwarven Quest from DLC, and quit afterwards, because it will take all my power points to unlock it, and I don't want to start scraping together 50 points from scratch to unlock Fade Quest and the dreaded Winter Palace (basically my most hated part of the game save for Trespasser). I like Descent a lot, though I believe for most people it is their least favorite DLC. Maybe you're actually skipping out on too much? I'm finding that I like MEA more now that I'm forcing myself to do companion quests, even for the companions I don't like. I had tried sticking to the main story and vaults for a while because I wasn't really enjoying the game, and I think that was a mistake. That said, I do actually like the ME universe as a whole, whereas you don't seem to like DA much in general (except DA2, iirc)? I do not find DA verse all that exciting, but I find Dwarves/Qunari more interesting. Then again, I find the Bull uninteresting. I really loved DA2, but on the strength of characters (Anders, in particular) and the "go-go-go" tempo of the game rather than any particular attachment to Amell family (as opposite to Hawke himself) and Kirkwall.
So, I am thinking maybe I should try looking at more areas playing with the companions I like, b/c going through the main story, companions quests and romance sampling so far did not captivate me in DA3.
I love the DAK tapestry of matching protagonists and DA3 really should be a culminating experience there, but I am failing to make DA3 an exciting experience, and just cannot finish the game for the second time so far.
And, well, if I finish my Origins run I will actually have 2/3 for the full DAK, so finishing the matching DA3 protagonist would be nice.
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Post by opuspace on Jun 27, 2017 6:17:17 GMT
I've gotten more entertainment from the Blackwall and Iron Bull romances than Cullen and Solas'. In fact, I would have been content if it had been just them. Not that I would wish this on others, only that I'd have been ok with it personally.
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Post by cmoe on Jun 27, 2017 8:00:20 GMT
I've gotten more entertainment from the Blackwall and Iron Bull romances than Cullen and Solas'. In fact, I would have been content if it had been just them. Not that I would wish this on others, only that I'd have been ok with it personally. Really? Between Solas and Cullen, I couldn't decide on a canon romance. That was a first for me. Although I did enjoy the IB romance as well.
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Post by opuspace on Jun 27, 2017 8:28:44 GMT
I've gotten more entertainment from the Blackwall and Iron Bull romances than Cullen and Solas'. In fact, I would have been content if it had been just them. Not that I would wish this on others, only that I'd have been ok with it personally. Really? Between Solas and Cullen, I couldn't decide on a canon romance. That was a first for me. Although I did enjoy the IB romance as well. It's hard to explain. Cullen's is excellent, far more detailed and better animated than Blackwall's by a far stretch. It'd have been a favorite of mine hands down...had I not already gone through all the heterosexual female romances in Mass Effect where all the guys were shy and awkward around the female protagonist. By the end of that trilogy, I'd have appreciated any male character taking some initiative instead of feeling like I was directing the relationship the entire time. Solas, to me, comes off as so similar to Blackwall's theme when it comes to romance that it came down to voice actor pulling the emotion out of me. And Blackwall's voice actor was incredible. I like Bull's romance because it's unorthodox and provides far more roleplay room for several different Inquisitors. He can be as committed or as casual as one wishes, so as a result, I can play Inquisitors who aren't about true love, who can be more vicious but still have someone who brings out another aspect of them.
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Post by cmoe on Jun 27, 2017 8:51:34 GMT
Really? Between Solas and Cullen, I couldn't decide on a canon romance. That was a first for me. Although I did enjoy the IB romance as well. It's hard to explain. Cullen's is excellent, far more detailed and better animated than Blackwall's by a far stretch. It'd have been a favorite of mine hands down...had I not already gone through all the heterosexual female romances in Mass Effect where all the guys were shy and awkward around the female protagonist. By the end of that trilogy, I'd have appreciated any male character taking some initiative instead of feeling like I was directing the relationship the entire time. Solas, to me, comes off as so similar to Blackwall's theme when it comes to romance that it came down to voice actor pulling the emotion out of me. And Blackwall's voice actor was incredible. I like Bull's romance because it's unorthodox and provides far more roleplay room for several different Inquisitors. He can be as committed or as casual as one wishes, so as a result, I can play Inquisitors who aren't about true love, who can be more vicious but still have someone who brings out another aspect of them. I get what you mean about liking the guy to take some initiative. I did like the Commander part of Cullen a lot, even if we didn't see it in the flirting. He was just too adorable I guess. I also needed lots of adorable after a Solavellan PT. I love the VA's for Cullen and Solas. Not as much for Blackwall for some reason. I was actually surprised by how much I liked the IB, I went into it thinking just for fun. But the big guy won me over by the end.
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Post by Wildfire on Jun 27, 2017 10:16:49 GMT
About romances, I only realized today that there are 5 male romance partners and 3 female ones in DAI. I know this makes me sound stupid Also, I find this unequal distribution weird. I'm not bothered by it or anything, it's just odd. PS. Can completely understand why someone would want a bit more initiative from love interest. Cullen was definitely one of the top three romances but wouldn't really want to romance someone so shy in many consecutive PTs. Give me someone predatory please
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About romances, I only realized today that there are 5 male romance partners and 3 female ones in DAI. I know this makes me sound stupid Also, I find this unequal distribution weird. I'm not bothered by it or anything, it's just odd. PS. Can completely understand why someone would want a bit more initiative from love interest. Cullen was definitely one of the top three romances but wouldn't really want to romance someone so shy in many consecutive PTs. Give me someone predatory please Like Bill Cosby?
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Post by tacsear on Jun 27, 2017 12:04:10 GMT
I'm seriously concerned that Bioware will destroy DA just like they did ME and we won't get anoyher RPG to fill up their places. I mean open world was OK in DAI and it didn't work at all in MEA, but Mike Laidlaw's most recent interview shows that they are not giving up on open worlds. Unless they can make all the areas like JoH DLC, it's not gonna be good
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I went slightly further into romance with Cullen, than with Solas and BW, but all the three romances just don't hold my interest & in BW and Solas cases I just took break up options.
Cullen''s got to now what?" point, and I really was not fond of comic relief inserted in the kiss on the battlements scene. And it really just... fizzled out there, because what's there to know about Cullen? He's a nice guy.
The biggest disappointment though was the IB. Omg, I was so excited I can romance Qunari and play a Qunari. But Iron Bull turned out to be just the combo of lore infodumps, sexual innuendo and revolting appearance to have no reason to even recruit him again on a female attempt #2. I can take infodumps in Solas voice, and I might take some uncomfortable stuff from a gorgeous character. But Bull is making Qunari sound about as exciting as middle school history textbook, sucking the life out of it. Sten, Arishok, those were wow chars that made me uber excited about Qun. And how could they manage to get a Qunari that ugly form their CC? Because what I get is handsome. And why fat on top of it? What's the benefit?
I dunno, DA3 romances for females are hugely popular, but I am just not with the programme. And it's not that I am just too tired of Bio romances. I gobbled up Dorian's and Reyes' just fine, and was melting around Alistair half an hour ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 12:27:34 GMT
I'm seriously concerned that Bioware will destroy DA just like they did ME and we won't get anoyher RPG to fill up their places. I mean open world was OK in DAI and it didn't work at all in MEA, but Mike Laidlaw's most recent interview shows that they are not giving up on open worlds. Unless they can make all the areas like JoH DLC, it's not gonna be good I thought A1 was actually acceptable vs DA3 & way more fun. I know they are by whatever reason going that route again, I guess to inflate the play hours, since if it's not 100 hrs, it's not a video game, but I also cannot fathom why. I probably should listen to the interview. Maybe Laidlaw offers some sort of palatable reason.
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Post by tacsear on Jun 27, 2017 12:36:27 GMT
I'm seriously concerned that Bioware will destroy DA just like they did ME and we won't get anoyher RPG to fill up their places. I mean open world was OK in DAI and it didn't work at all in MEA, but Mike Laidlaw's most recent interview shows that they are not giving up on open worlds. Unless they can make all the areas like JoH DLC, it's not gonna be good I thought A1 was actually acceptable vs DA3 & way more fun. I know they are by whatever reason going that route again, I guess to inflate the play hours, since if it's not 100 hrs, it's not a video game, but I also cannot fathom why. I probably should listen to the interview. Maybe Laidlaw offers some sort of palatable reason. In the time DAI came out there weren't many good examples for an open world game and they were considerably small. Plus the hub areas in DAI had somewhat decent storylines and you could see the impact of the quests in the area but they were filled with fetch quests. MEA on the other hand, had gigantic open spaces with barely anything on them. Even the Architect fights are exactly the same. I just want little hub areas for quests only (like the ones in DAO and character spesific areas in DAI). I mean there are tons of companies who are better at making open worlds than BW, they should just stop it
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I thought A1 was actually acceptable vs DA3 & way more fun. I know they are by whatever reason going that route again, I guess to inflate the play hours, since if it's not 100 hrs, it's not a video game, but I also cannot fathom why. I probably should listen to the interview. Maybe Laidlaw offers some sort of palatable reason. In the time DAI came out there weren't many good examples for an open world game and they were considerably small. Plus the hub areas in DAI had somewhat decent storylines and you could see the impact of the quests in the area but they were filled with fetch quests. MEA on the other hand, had gigantic open spaces with barely anything on them. Even the Architect fights are exactly the same. I just want little hub areas for quests only (like the ones in DAO and character spesific areas in DAI). I mean there are tons of companies who are better at making open worlds than BW, they should just stop it I liked A1specifically because it had an actual interesting story on every planet, while DA3 had nothing but trying to find your way around the mobs everywhere I went. I like the small hubs, but I also loved the freedom of movement in A1 with Nomad and jet packs, it was tons of fun. No lockout areas....
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Post by tacsear on Jun 27, 2017 12:46:12 GMT
In the time DAI came out there weren't many good examples for an open world game and they were considerably small. Plus the hub areas in DAI had somewhat decent storylines and you could see the impact of the quests in the area but they were filled with fetch quests. MEA on the other hand, had gigantic open spaces with barely anything on them. Even the Architect fights are exactly the same. I just want little hub areas for quests only (like the ones in DAO and character spesific areas in DAI). I mean there are tons of companies who are better at making open worlds than BW, they should just stop it I liked A1specifically because it had an actual interesting story on every planet, while DA3 had nothing but trying to find your way around the mobs everywhere I went. I like the small hubs, but I also loved the freedom of movement in A1 with Nomad and jet packs, it was tons of fun. No lockout areas.... The only intersting plotline in MEA for me is the Kadara port (which was better than the original plot) and it was still predictable, on the other hand side quests in DAI makes you meet interesting characters like Fairbanks or Mayor of Crestwood. It's not really freedoom if you don't have anything to do
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 12:56:55 GMT
I liked A1specifically because it had an actual interesting story on every planet, while DA3 had nothing but trying to find your way around the mobs everywhere I went. I like the small hubs, but I also loved the freedom of movement in A1 with Nomad and jet packs, it was tons of fun. No lockout areas.... The only intersting plotline in MEA for me is the Kadara port (which was better than the original plot) and it was still predictable, on the other hand side quests in DAI makes you meet interesting characters like Fairbanks or Mayor of Crestwood. It's not really freedoom if you don't have anything to do I don't even remember who Fairbanks is, and Crestwood mayor is the part of the main storyline, not area. I remeber the Orlesian scientist, and that's that for who I met on the road in DA3. I loved Kadara to bits, Havarl's Sage Tower and the rift with that ancient bound ominglove and Angaran past life; adored ancient AI on Voeld and its interactions, and Avitus, aww... Eos is boring, but Massani is sort of cool, and Krogans are pretty interesting on Elaadeen, I liked the two which you try to make up, and the nerdy Krogans aww... and there is nothing even remotely as cool as Vaults and Remnant city in Inquisition... so all and all, I met by far more memorable chars in A1 and more interesting quests, like poisoned water one on Kadara... overall, the world just felt more fantastic and interesting than DA3. Yeah...was just remembering climbing that tower on Havarl. One of the best gaming experiences in the last year, so atmospheric and truly alien.
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Post by tacsear on Jun 27, 2017 13:25:36 GMT
The only intersting plotline in MEA for me is the Kadara port (which was better than the original plot) and it was still predictable, on the other hand side quests in DAI makes you meet interesting characters like Fairbanks or Mayor of Crestwood. It's not really freedoom if you don't have anything to do I don't even remember who Fairbanks is, and Crestwood mayor is the part of the main storyline, not area. I remeber the Orlesian scientist, and that's that for who I met on the road in DA3. I loved Kadara to bits, Havarl's Sage Tower and the rift with that ancient bound ominglove and Angaran past life; adored ancient AI on Voeld and its interactions, and Avitus, aww... Eos is boring, but Massani is sort of cool, and Krogans are pretty interesting on Elaadeen, I liked the two which you try to make up, and the nerdy Krogans aww... and there is nothing even remotely as cool as Vaults and Remnant city in Inquisition... so all and all, I met by far more memorable chars in A1 and more interesting quests, like poisoned water one on Kadara... overall, the world just felt more fantastic and interesting than DA3. Yeah...was just remembering climbing that tower on Havarl. One of the best gaming experiences in the last year, so atmospheric and truly alien. Crestwood's mayor is a side quest you don't have to complete it. And no none of them were interesring for me especially that Krogan world where there are more female Krogan than males, it's against every piece of lore True areas are beautiful in mea but they weren't interesting you don't actually learn anything about them. You just raise your magical hand to fix things and guess what, it was done before and only 3 years ago
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I don't even remember who Fairbanks is, and Crestwood mayor is the part of the main storyline, not area. I remeber the Orlesian scientist, and that's that for who I met on the road in DA3. I loved Kadara to bits, Havarl's Sage Tower and the rift with that ancient bound ominglove and Angaran past life; adored ancient AI on Voeld and its interactions, and Avitus, aww... Eos is boring, but Massani is sort of cool, and Krogans are pretty interesting on Elaadeen, I liked the two which you try to make up, and the nerdy Krogans aww... and there is nothing even remotely as cool as Vaults and Remnant city in Inquisition... so all and all, I met by far more memorable chars in A1 and more interesting quests, like poisoned water one on Kadara... overall, the world just felt more fantastic and interesting than DA3. Yeah...was just remembering climbing that tower on Havarl. One of the best gaming experiences in the last year, so atmospheric and truly alien. Crestwood's mayor is a side quest you don't have to complete it. And no none of them were interesring for me especially that Krogan world where there are more female Krogan than males, it's against every piece of lore True areas are beautiful in mea but they weren't interesting you don't actually learn anything about them. You just raise your magical hand to fix things and guess what, it was done before and only 3 years ago Let's just leave this thread for DA Confessions, after I just emphasize that in your post "you" is just a pronoun, not implicitly me, because it does not describe my opinion or experience of the A1 game
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Post by Wildfire on Jun 28, 2017 7:35:06 GMT
About romances, I only realized today that there are 5 male romance partners and 3 female ones in DAI. I know this makes me sound stupid Also, I find this unequal distribution weird. I'm not bothered by it or anything, it's just odd. PS. Can completely understand why someone would want a bit more initiative from love interest. Cullen was definitely one of the top three romances but wouldn't really want to romance someone so shy in many consecutive PTs. Give me someone predatory please Like Bill Cosby? Actually, I wasn't thinking about Bill Cosby
Maybe someone more like Isabela or Zevran, for example. Eager, but respectful. Tortured/shy/tragic men with dark pasts are nice but BW seems to use this trope a LOT: Valen Shadowbreath, Aarin Gend, Sky, Carth, Cullen, Anders, Fenris, Kaidan(?), Thane, that engineer guy in ME3... The list just goes on and on
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Post by Catilina on Jun 28, 2017 8:10:40 GMT
Like Bill Cosby? Actually, I wasn't thinking about Bill Cosby
Maybe someone more like Isabela or Zevran, for example. Eager, but respectful. Tortured/shy/tragic men with dark pasts are nice but BW seems to use this trope a LOT: Valen Shadowbreath, Aarin Gend, Sky, Carth, Cullen, Anders, Fenris, Kaidan(?), Thane, that engineer guy in ME3... The list just goes on and on Zevran tortured too. Just say.
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Post by Wildfire on Jun 28, 2017 8:20:22 GMT
Actually, I wasn't thinking about Bill Cosby
Maybe someone more like Isabela or Zevran, for example. Eager, but respectful. Tortured/shy/tragic men with dark pasts are nice but BW seems to use this trope a LOT: Valen Shadowbreath, Aarin Gend, Sky, Carth, Cullen, Anders, Fenris, Kaidan(?), Thane, that engineer guy in ME3... The list just goes on and on Zevran tortured too. Just say. Yeah, I know, I romanced him the last time I played DAO But I really liked how he didn't act that way, though. It was really impressive how he just dealt with such things and took life as it came.
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Zevran tortured too. Just say. Yeah, I know, I romanced him the last time I played DAO But I really liked how he didn't act that way, though. It was really impressive how he just dealt with such things and took life as it came. So did Thane. Thing is, the characters have to have a backstory, and being adventurers, it's not likely that they have been born to a suburban family, went to the Adventuring Uni, and now submitted an internship application with the PC to get some work experience in their chosen field of mass murder (specializing in generic bad guys) and mayhem.
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Post by phoray on Jun 28, 2017 18:31:15 GMT
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Post by Iddy on Jun 28, 2017 18:39:11 GMT
Actually, I wasn't thinking about Bill Cosby
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Post by Catilina on Jun 28, 2017 18:44:23 GMT
Zevran tortured too. Just say. It doesn't seem to define him as it does the other characters, though. Or perhaps it does, but he isn't very vocal about it. When the Crows bought him, he was literally a slave. The Crow training is cruel. His Fade "dream" was a torture.
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Post by Iddy on Jun 28, 2017 18:47:19 GMT
It doesn't seem to define him as it does the other characters, though. Or perhaps it does, but he isn't very vocal about it. When the Crows bought him, he was literally a slave. The Crow training is cruel. His Fade "dream" was a torture. Ehhh... I think he was enjoying himself in that dream.
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