The biggest problem with Mass Effect's dialogue

Proof? Because this is far from an echo chamber.

Shepard is pretty serious as a character throughout though; I think some of the other mates act as a foil for the character, and other NPCs make jokes, but she doesn't joke around too much. When she does, it's pretty subdued in execution...
Obviously, she does joke around sometimes. otoomyh: LOTSB banter, the banter on Sur'Kesh with the yahg I mentioned earlier, and the moment in Leviathan when she looks at a piece of Sovereign and says: "Sovereign. Vanguard of our destruction. How's that working out for you, big guy?" 
I think partof it for me is that the tone and story are pretty heavy in the MET, so the jokes feel like a little relief and one way to build character; in MEA the tone and story are fairly light, so the jokes don't offer that contrast -- and I am definitely of the sort that prefers a darker game. I think MET is attempting to lighten up a dark game full of (attempted..) pathos; meanwhile, I don't think MEA is offering much in the way of pathos, and there isn't much seriousness to make light of. The tone is rarely (if ever?) heavy and in need of relieving.
I'm also not sure this positive use of "bathos" is appropriate here. Bathos isn't always a positive thing, but even in its positive connotation I don't see it in this game.

(ETA and if you prefer a lighter game, and I prefer a darker one, then that's just a difference. I don't really like movies like GoTG -- all light, all fun, rarely negative emotions -- which is how this felt to me, but that doesn't make GoTG or things like it bad to my mind. So I want to clarify that I am not one of the dialogue/writing critics who thinks the style itself is the problem and am aware of my biases.)

If you're going to get pissy about people not getting the basic point, try practicing what you preach. 

Just cause MEA features a new hero is not an excuse for poor writing. While this is the first Ryder story, this isnt the first Mass Effect story but infact the 4th ME story.

Bioware has 3 games and years of experience to know what right looks like and what wrong looks like. Bioware isnt some lame startup studio working on their first game. They have been doing this for a while and while.

It doesn't have poor writing.

This doesn't follow, as the entire point behind MEA was to do something different to the previous trilogy. 

That isn't an excuse for MEA's rough points but implying that making something completely different but also better is somehow easy is absurd.

You don't have to like ME:A. I don't give a damn if you do to be honest. What you're argueing though is silly and something everybody seems to do noways:

"I don't like this, so it must be bad".

No it isn't, you just don't fucking like it.

Actually they did not, when it was first released, the people of the time were impressed by the main quest, but the exploration mechanic and shitty quest were very criticized. Its just the people of today who are only thinking in nostalgia and refuse to see that side quest were never good in the mass effect trilogy. And yes I have better memories of good side quests of MEA than any in the trilogy, where the second you left a main planet or companion quest, you were there for a long boring time.

I don't give a single fuck about the "mass effect 1 pushed the industry" that is not the point of what we were saying. it was the people saying that the reason Mass effect andromeda is not good is because there are boring side quest in it and claiming after that, that they enjoyed the previous mass effect... subtlely trying to pretend that the previous trilogy did not had this problem. 

If someone wants to say "I prefer the main quest of the previous trilogy rather than the one of MEA" ok no problem, they say the prefer the ambiance, the music, the companion ,the characters, the voice acting, the overall story, the gameplay mechanics... Ok that is all debatable,

but trying to pretend that MEA is bad BECAUSE of the bad side quest, where the previous ME never really suceeded doing their side quest, that is what I have a problem with. Its not about what MEA did for the industry that is totally unimportant, its people claiming previous game did not have this flaws for whatever reasons.

Thank you.

You can make an educated judgment after 10 hours. If a book doesn't draw you in within the first 50 pages or so, it's a save bet, this isn't for you. With a game 10 hours should be more than sufficient. The only thing I take issue with is the state in which this game has been released and how it looked when playing these first ten hours. You can't base your judgment on the bugged state at release, but you can say something on dialogues, story and characters. If that doesn't sit well with your tastes, it's a save bet, it won't change in the ensuing 50 to 60 hours.

Cruel. You heard the mod. But before anything, what was your contribution in this thread? Aside from jumping in to defend those who you don't disagree with by posting nothing worth discussing. Let's go DM and I can give you my number.