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Post by unclemonster on Jul 10, 2017 17:08:32 GMT
Outlaws did seem a little easier. Surprisingly, 1st wave is semi-difficult with Adhi, Berserker, and Observer rushing from all sides. I have not played Kett yet as we only played APEX missions for the 143,750 credits. We got kind of lucky in our game as that Turian Agent in our game was a pug and he did well. The next game after you left was flat out brutal as we had 2 horrible pugs so it was basically a 2-man game. It took us 35 minutes and we beat the wave 6 hack with only 5 seconds remaining. Yeah. I was kinda skeptical to play with them... they had like 2000 Apex rating but they did well. haha Most PuG Platinum games without right infiltrator & DPS probably will last longer than 25 minutes.. My first one was like 29 minutes. For my first game I felt like Platinum is waaaaay harder than I ever imagined, and I was frankly surprised by new enemies and their behavior. ...BTW.. everything does move faster in Platinum... I enjoyed the tougher challenge. The real challenge will be zero cloaks in the room.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 17:08:46 GMT
I've played a few platinum matches, and have really lucked out with great pugs. Only one failed to extract, and we wiped on a W6 upload.
I've been taking my TSol w/ incendiary ammo and extra shields. I tried disruptor once - and I know that some units have awfully heavy shields, but it always feels like armor is the bigger issue. I carry a Shadow (along with the Revenant), but rarely have any opportunity to use it - there are just too many enemies targeting me to dare poke my head out of cover to scope, even for a moment.
This is because most of my teammates have been cloakers, or carried the benefit of someone else's stealth grid. I've been the recipient of most (if not all) of the aggro dumping performed by my teammates. Not an especially fun role to play, but a necessary one, and they've been pretty patient about rezzing me frequently.
RNG has recently given me several new Siphon weapons, including a Revenant and (I think) a Shadow. I'll take them next time, and here's hoping they'll help me survive longer. Also, if I'm going to be tanking for cloakers, I'll probably re-spec with that goal in mind.
I would also very much like to know the composition of the various factions for Platinum. I've been caught in Observer crossfire, with nowhere to run - and would really like to avoid that in the future.
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Post by gethadept on Jul 10, 2017 17:09:07 GMT
The problem is in their current implementation and their short sighted "no child left behind" character model, they've set up the means to do 9-12 minute golds without boosters and 6-7 minute golds with boosters. Under that time frame platinum is essentially worthless as a farming or XP tool. 3MP set up a careful and purposed mix of characters and mods that could be used for platinum or to do gold either through inexperienced or lesser skilled players with only a couple of outliers like cameltoe or discount rack zaeed that tipped balance into roflstomp territory, or the Juggernaut and Warlord for slower yet "guaranteed" results. With what AMP has in the current state of release, with basically any character save a few, there's no point in running through plat for loots when you can cruise through gold without even fully levelled gear much, MUCH faster. Yes. That is very true. What I don`t understand is... how they can completely abandon gold games like this as video game developer. This game was designed and built around Gold difficulty for multiplayer... but they did not hesitate even a slightest to crush it to pummeled shits. I don`t get it. How can they ever think giving 39% boost to power, combo and melee damage while leaving Gold difficulty largely untouched. WTF are they really thinking? I hate them. I also hate the two UR I got this weekend. Krogan Gladiator XI & Soned Bulwark. .....They are so wrong... Everything is so wrong..
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Glad to see I've had a positive effect on your. Hopefully you've learned a thing or two. I sense the love in here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 17:16:41 GMT
I apologize for potentially hijacking your thread, gethadept, but -
I'm also quite curious to know how the krogans are doing in Platinum, especially wrt maintaining rage. The enemies take longer to kill, so I would expect it to be more difficult to activate and maintain rage.
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Glad to see I've had a positive effect on your. Hopefully you've learned a thing or two. I sense the love in here. He's just salty because I've had to school him a few times. He probably thinks I'll stop posting, but I'll still be here just in case he steps out of line again.
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Post by gethadept on Jul 10, 2017 17:25:54 GMT
I apologize for potentially hijacking your thread, gethadept, but - I'm also quite curious to know how the krogans are doing in Platinum, especially wrt maintaining rage. The enemies take longer to kill, so I would expect it to be more difficult to activate and maintain rage. i tried kroguard xx in one game... but it was my first game so i was caught off guard. i only played 3 platinum games.. but i think all krogans can excel in platinum with bit more careful approach. u can't tank anything in platinum though. play just like any other characters and they will be fine. the high hp & rage still help, probably even more so with variants weapons. mainly ammo prime + combo / flak spam. not sure about gladiators because of too many observers.
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Post by unclemonster on Jul 10, 2017 17:28:36 GMT
WTF are they really thinking? I hate them. I also hate the two UR I got this weekend. Krogan Gladiator XI & Soned Bulwark. .....They are so wrong... Everything is so wrong.. I got worthless XI & XII Salarian Operative cards. Vet ranks do almost nothing for him. Also got a Krogan Gladiator XI and Kineticist XI. The worst though...Black Widow Siphon and Black Widow Bulwark (I don't snipe) I wouldn't mind the bloat, if they only dropped once ALL other UR were max. This just sucks as my other unwanted UR approach X, you have to hope you don't get them or it further waters down what you actually want hello pathetic Hurricane III (my lowest UR other than new Kishock) I am just praying I get my Rozerad to X (currently VIII) before anything else (4 other guns at VIII). please RNG please...
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Post by onehitparry on Jul 10, 2017 17:29:30 GMT
I was playing gold with a friend last night and a player with an Apex rating of ~200 with a level 1, rank 1 character joined our party. The nice thing would have been to ask them to leave. Instead of kicking them we started a platinum game to initiate this new player. It did not go well. I've never seen so many observers. But as poorly as it went, I did have fun.
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Post by misguidedworm7 on Jul 10, 2017 17:31:45 GMT
Plat is alright, some objectives on some maps in some places kill you outright. But otherwise not so bad.
Outlaw is all Krogan, all day, every day. All sorts of armor, but few shields, so anti armor characters, especially stun resistant ones stomp them. They are also very vulnerable to slows, debuffs, and damage over time effects from fire. The only issue is that fire and ice are mutually exclusive.
Remnant is all about shields, only a relative few armored enemies, so anti shield characters, and disruptor ammo destroys them easily. Any kit with disruptor ammo can smash through the whole game easily, detonations are icing on top.
Kett is a mixed bag, they have a lot of big armored units, but their infantry composition is shield heavy, so they don't lend themselves to a particular strategy. Everything is alright, but nothing is really GOOD.
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Post by unclemonster on Jul 10, 2017 17:32:17 GMT
I was playing gold with a friend last night and a player with an Apex rating of ~200 with a level 1, rank 1 character joined our party. The nice thing would have been to ask them to leave. Instead of kicking them we started a platinum game to initiate this new player. It did not go well. I've never seen so many observers. But as poorly as it went, I did have fun. you must be a masochist!
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Post by jloco11 on Jul 10, 2017 17:32:28 GMT
I apologize for potentially hijacking your thread, gethadept, but - I'm also quite curious to know how the krogans are doing in Platinum, especially wrt maintaining rage. The enemies take longer to kill, so I would expect it to be more difficult to activate and maintain rage. Maintaining is damn near impossible. Your only bet is using flak cannons on enough enemies within range just to activate it. Gladiator won't be able to pull too many enemies to her. And you'll need to strip shields on the ones you can pull. Krogineer isn't the best melee Krogan to begin with, so she is out of the question. Kroguard can attack smaller enemies, but the amount of damage you take out in the open isn't great for him. Plus once you get through all the mooks, you have Blaze Hydras, Ascendants & Progenitors as the last enemies left. That leaves the KroMerc and maintaining rage in the later rounds is only probable with flak cannons
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Post by onehitparry on Jul 10, 2017 17:35:01 GMT
I was playing gold with a friend last night and a player with an Apex rating of ~200 with a level 1, rank 1 character joined our party. The nice thing would have been to ask them to leave. Instead of kicking them we started a platinum game to initiate this new player. It did not go well. I've never seen so many observers. But as poorly as it went, I did have fun. you must be a masochist! I should mention that it was our first platinum "attempt," too. Definitely a learning experience.
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Post by auronio on Jul 10, 2017 17:39:01 GMT
With regards to the OP's question.
I don't know. Just played a few platinum the very first day.
Basically platinum came roughly four weeks too late for me cause one month ago I started already getting bored but I continued for another two to three weeks but without being able to put my heart and soul in it anymore. Platinum (for me) can't turn that around really anymore and the infinite card grind put me over the edge. Too much energy/time invested, it was time to put on the emergency brake.
Maybe again after some time...
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Post by Gya on Jul 10, 2017 17:44:30 GMT
I was playing gold with a friend last night and a player with an Apex rating of ~200 with a level 1, rank 1 character joined our party. The nice thing would have been to ask them to leave. Instead of kicking them we started a platinum game to initiate this new player. It did not go well. I've never seen so many observers. But as poorly as it went, I did have fun. Personally, I'd have set it to platinum, and then made the lobby private. After the game starts, you three bail straight away. This is how platinum solos are made.
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Post by Transcended One on Jul 10, 2017 18:26:40 GMT
The problem is in their current implementation and their short sighted "no child left behind" character model, they've set up the means to do 9-12 minute golds without boosters and 6-7 minute golds with boosters. Under that time frame platinum is essentially worthless as a farming or XP tool. 3MP set up a careful and purposed mix of characters and mods that could be used for platinum or to do gold either through inexperienced or lesser skilled players with only a couple of outliers like cameltoe or discount rack zaeed that tipped balance into roflstomp territory, or the Juggernaut and Warlord for slower yet "guaranteed" results. With what AMP has in the current state of release, with basically any character save a few, there's no point in running through plat for loots when you can cruise through gold without even fully levelled gear much, MUCH faster. My average gold runs are around 14 mins (with decent Pugs, guess I'm not quite the badass yet!), and my Platinum ones (when everything goes right, and with decent Pugs) are between 16 and 22 mins, depending on team, certain objectives, etc. ( *edit*). In my book credits per time are better with Platinum. Even if the match fails on wave 6 (because of Hack), then it's still 75K creds. But if you can do Gold runs in 6 minutes, then good for you I guess . I do agree that the enemy loadout needs a bit of 'finetuning' to get it right. And I agree something needs to be done about the Hack objective.
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Post by gethadept on Jul 10, 2017 18:31:07 GMT
The problem is in their current implementation and their short sighted "no child left behind" character model, they've set up the means to do 9-12 minute golds without boosters and 6-7 minute golds with boosters. Under that time frame platinum is essentially worthless as a farming or XP tool. 3MP set up a careful and purposed mix of characters and mods that could be used for platinum or to do gold either through inexperienced or lesser skilled players with only a couple of outliers like cameltoe or discount rack zaeed that tipped balance into roflstomp territory, or the Juggernaut and Warlord for slower yet "guaranteed" results. With what AMP has in the current state of release, with basically any character save a few, there's no point in running through plat for loots when you can cruise through gold without even fully levelled gear much, MUCH faster. My average gold runs are around 14 mins (with decent Pugs, guess I'm not quite the badass yet!), and my Platinum ones (when everything goes right, and with decent Pugs) are around 17 mins. In my book credits per time are better with Platinum. Even if the match fails on wave 6 (because of Hack), then it's still 75K creds. But if you can do Gold runs in 6 minutes, then good for you I guess . I do agree that the enemy loadout needs a bit of 'finetuning' to get it right. And I agree something needs to be done about the Hack objective. No matter how we look at it, Platinum indeed yields better credits per time spent. On PS4 average gold PuG game lasts 15 - 18 minutes. I`d say Platinum will be around 25 minutes. That`s still way better earning as long as game lasts until full extraction.
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Post by shinobiwan on Jul 10, 2017 18:37:22 GMT
Not much. Beat it a bit just to show I can do it but that's enough. It doesn't pay well for how long it can take and how much faster gold games are now. And I really don't find it fun. It's probably easier than ME3 Platinum but I don't like playing infiltrators, which leaves me limited to the classes that can take the aggro dump. I'd rather play gold where more kinds of strategies are useful, but that's becoming so easy (due to veteran boosts + weapon variants) that it's not much fun anymore either.
They really screwed up on this patch, and it looks like they plan to discontinue support and leave the game this way. Not good.
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Post by gethadept on Jul 10, 2017 18:43:13 GMT
Not much. Beat it a bit just to show I can do it but that's enough. It doesn't pay well for how long it can take and how much faster gold games are now. And I really don't find it fun. It's probably easier than ME3 Platinum but I don't like playing infiltrators, which leaves me limited to the classes that can take the aggro dump. I'd rather play gold where more kinds of strategies are useful, but that's becoming so easy that it's not much fun anymore either. They really screwed up on this patch, and it looks like they plan to discontinue support and leave the game this way. Not good. It was all fun and talk when we discussed patch 1.09 here on the forum... but once I started to play game the reality hit me really hard. Yeah. They screwed up really bad. At least look at the brighter side... gold games are super casual and our characters are more powerful than ever. Also for the completionists.. having complete manifest will feel like an achievement almost nobody in this game ever reach... I am sure less than 100 people will reach maxed manifest in this game worldwide.
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Post by unclemonster on Jul 10, 2017 18:52:55 GMT
Not much. Beat it a bit just to show I can do it but that's enough. It doesn't pay well for how long it can take and how much faster gold games are now. And I really don't find it fun. It's probably easier than ME3 Platinum but I don't like playing infiltrators, which leaves me limited to the classes that can take the aggro dump. I'd rather play gold where more kinds of strategies are useful, but that's becoming so easy (due to veteran boosts + weapon variants) that it's not much fun anymore either. They really screwed up on this patch, and it looks like they plan to discontinue support and leave the game this way. Not good. I am still hopeful for a SP DLC and then more kits from that. I don't think we are done yet. I think we will still get that Quarian Ark SP DLC. Then, we will get Quarian, Drell and others in MP. I think we get one more MP DLC dump. Also, I wonder what happened to the Roekkar faction?
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Post by guanxi on Jul 10, 2017 18:54:21 GMT
I maxed my XXs (besides URs) over the weekend playing platinum. Just play infiltrators and you'll do fine.
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Post by unclemonster on Jul 10, 2017 18:56:13 GMT
The problem is in their current implementation and their short sighted "no child left behind" character model, they've set up the means to do 9-12 minute golds without boosters and 6-7 minute golds with boosters. Under that time frame platinum is essentially worthless as a farming or XP tool. I would LOVE to see a 6 minute gold run posted...LOL...not even possible! I am calling you out on this one! Extraction is 2 minutes leaving you with 4 minutes for the other 6 waves?
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