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Post by colfoley on Mar 21, 2018 3:51:56 GMT
Huh? My experience with google docs is that it always saves you work tho and it's a good way to spell check you're work as well considering. Don't trust that spellcheck. Trust me, I'm very, very good with grammar and spelling (two of my professions rely on my proficiency) and it's underlined many words for me I know for a fact exist and/or are spelled that way (I look up and researched every single one to be absolutely sure, but I haven't been wrong to date). The MS Word spellcheck is a sight better than that, but you can't trust that 100% either (especially for non-English languages, it's embarrassing)... best thing is to research it when you're not sure, i.e. when it wasn't just an obvious typo or something. It saves your work just fine and automatically but it does not actually pick up where you left off. If you were looking at page ten of your novel and closed it in MS word the next time you opened it you could open it right back to page ten, but now Docs does not do that. As far as I know. Other annoying thing, as far as I know, is while there is an ep on the phone there is not an ap on the computer which the ap makes thinks...convienient. I've never discovered this functionality of MS Word! I guess I never really needed it, I just old school highlight the last line I was working on. Good to know, though! I know there isn't an app for desktop, but is there something particular you miss from it's online interface that the app has? oh I know. When me and my fiancée are editing we come along a word and it's all like "that's a word" "but it's highlighted" but it's a word" "look it up" "fine...oh look it's a word." Not really but I just find it that much faster and convenient to access the app.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 7:58:03 GMT
I don't have work so I was able to produce two pages of my work in two days!
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Post by colfoley on Mar 21, 2018 8:00:32 GMT
I don't have work so I was able to produce two pages of my work in two days! I usually can write about three pages an hour.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 8:01:51 GMT
I don't have work so I was able to produce two pages of my work in two days! I usually can write about three pages an hour. Wow I wish I could be you. But I have problems with spelling things correctly, leaving me for days to search for unforeseen errors in my work. And also because my story takes along time to write too (It's usually 3,000 words per session or the likes...)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 10:12:39 GMT
I feel like I'm writing my story out of a sense of obligation than because I want too even though I have all these ideas on how to make it better (but the kids, they're so young... makes it hard to write a fluid, arching story. I'd have to age them, but than by doing so I'm getting rid of their romances and character development but than again, I'm getting a much better story arch out of It rather than the slog I'm currently writing with fourteen and twelve year olds..._
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 22, 2018 21:37:22 GMT
Don't trust that spellcheck. Trust me, I'm very, very good with grammar and spelling (two of my professions rely on my proficiency) and it's underlined many words for me I know for a fact exist and/or are spelled that way (I look up and researched every single one to be absolutely sure, but I haven't been wrong to date). The MS Word spellcheck is a sight better than that, but you can't trust that 100% either (especially for non-English languages, it's embarrassing)... best thing is to research it when you're not sure, i.e. when it wasn't just an obvious typo or something. I had problems with grammer in the past.. Hasn't everyone? It's an artificial structure that is somewhat independent of what you naturally learn as spoken language, you learn to instinctively use it and remember how to say things, but understanding why it works that way and how the system works that was built out of it and around it is an entirely different matter. Well worth the time invested to learn it properly, though! Things just make a lot more sense if you do that, including not having to rely on unreliable spellchecks - and it will greatly improve how much quality stuff you can put out in a reasonable amount of time. oh I know. When me and my fiancée are editing we come along a word and it's all like "that's a word" "but it's highlighted" but it's a word" "look it up" "fine...oh look it's a word." Not really but I just find it that much faster and convenient to access the app. I really hate that. I know it's a good tool to have, especially if someone doesn't have a good grasp of spelling or grammar, but I usually turn the grammar check off before I even begin and treat every red underline with a pinch of salt. It's not always nonsense... but then a large percentage of the time it is. I don't have work so I was able to produce two pages of my work in two days! Wow I wish I could be you. But I have problems with spelling things correctly, leaving me for days to search for unforeseen errors in my work. And also because my story takes along time to write too (It's usually 3,000 words per session or the likes...) You know, everyone has their own pace, don't be discouraged. Also, the more you write the smoother the process will go, you'll retain the correct spelling more and more of words you use on a regular basis so long as you pay attention to it, but the important thing is that by the end you should have a finished product that you are satisfied with; speed doesn't necessarily equal quality, but practice does equal speed, if you know what I mean. I write a lot more and very fast, but I've been writing almost nonstop for 15+ years, I learned how to type blind by myself and I studied English thoroughly in high school and it was my major at university, it takes time and effort to build that, though; you've got to start somewhere, set yourself writing goals and push yourself a little when you can to surpass your goals a little each time. Before you know it, you'll be up to speed. I feel like I'm writing my story out of a sense of obligation than because I want too even though I have all these ideas on how to make it better (but the kids, they're so young... makes it hard to write a fluid, arching story. I'd have to age them, but than by doing so I'm getting rid of their romances and character development but than again, I'm getting a much better story arch out of It rather than the slog I'm currently writing with fourteen and twelve year olds..._ Go for the better story. You can always redesign romances and details like that, but if the story isn't the best you can give, it's not worth spending effort on - only ever write your best ideas, all other ideas are just distractions that take away from your best work. Also, if you feel obligated then it's not clicking to begin with and that's going to show in your writing. That's the way it goes with writing, sometimes the best thing you can do is let go of ideas even if you really like them - the integrity of your work has to come before such preferences, if it's not working, it's just not working.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 21:39:01 GMT
Go for the better story. You can always redesign romances and details like that, but if the story isn't the best you can give, it's not worth spending effort on - only ever write your best ideas, all other ideas are just distractions that take away from your best work. Also, if you feel obligated then it's not clicking to begin with and that's going to show in your writing. That's the way it goes with writing, sometimes the best thing you can do is let go of ideas even if you really like them - the integrity of your work has to come before such preferences, if it's not working, it's just not working. Yeah, I know... I just had an idea that's all...
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 22, 2018 23:26:32 GMT
Go for the better story. You can always redesign romances and details like that, but if the story isn't the best you can give, it's not worth spending effort on - only ever write your best ideas, all other ideas are just distractions that take away from your best work. Also, if you feel obligated then it's not clicking to begin with and that's going to show in your writing. That's the way it goes with writing, sometimes the best thing you can do is let go of ideas even if you really like them - the integrity of your work has to come before such preferences, if it's not working, it's just not working. Yeah, I know... I just had an idea that's all... Ahh, those pesky ideas. I could do with some right now, I'm just staring at a blank screen today. Don't really feel like doing the editing I slated for today, either... but I gotta do it sometime, the book won't edit itself, much as I'd enjoy that right now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 23:28:01 GMT
Yeah, I know... I just had an idea that's all... Ahh, those pesky ideas. I could do with some right now, I'm just staring at a blank screen today. Don't really feel like doing the editing I slated for today, either... but I gotta do it sometime, the book won't edit itself, much as I'd enjoy that right now. I had amazing ideas of what to do with it, until I realised that I was writing basically nothing in lead up to it.
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 22, 2018 23:33:36 GMT
Ahh, those pesky ideas. I could do with some right now, I'm just staring at a blank screen today. Don't really feel like doing the editing I slated for today, either... but I gotta do it sometime, the book won't edit itself, much as I'd enjoy that right now. I had amazing ideas of what to do with it, until I realised that I was writing basically nothing in lead up to it. Right now I'm beating myself up to work on my finished manuscript so I can send it out to publishers again, I finished it years ago and it's been gathering dust since then pretty much. I mean literally all I have to do is run through it, fix any mistakes I find, cut out as much frill as I can to reduce the word count but otherwise all the hard work was done ages ago - I just so don't feel like actually doing any of that right now. Maybe if I had more coffee I'd change my mind. Or maybe I'm approaching it wrong, maybe I should just read through the whole thing and do nitpick edits later once I've refreshed the story in my mind...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 23:35:13 GMT
I had amazing ideas of what to do with it, until I realised that I was writing basically nothing in lead up to it. Right now I'm beating myself up to work on my finished manuscript so I can send it out to publishers again, I finished it years ago and it's been gathering dust since then pretty much. I mean literally all I have to do is run through it, fix any mistakes I find, cut out as much frill as I can to reduce the word count but otherwise all the hard work was done ages ago - I just so don't feel like actually doing any of that right now. Maybe if I had more coffee I'd change my mind. Or maybe I'm approaching it wrong, maybe I should just read through the whole thing and do nitpick edits later once I've refreshed the story in my mind... Meh, there's always smut I can put in there, considering it's game of thrones.
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 22, 2018 23:43:24 GMT
Right now I'm beating myself up to work on my finished manuscript so I can send it out to publishers again, I finished it years ago and it's been gathering dust since then pretty much. I mean literally all I have to do is run through it, fix any mistakes I find, cut out as much frill as I can to reduce the word count but otherwise all the hard work was done ages ago - I just so don't feel like actually doing any of that right now. Maybe if I had more coffee I'd change my mind. Or maybe I'm approaching it wrong, maybe I should just read through the whole thing and do nitpick edits later once I've refreshed the story in my mind... Meh, there's always smut I can put in there, considering it's game of thrones. That always works, hahaha. I think I'm trying too hard - this MS has been kind of a love-hate piece for me since its conception so many years ago; I like a lot of elements in it, I like how I developed some of those ideas in particular, but then there are some things that I just feel like I should do better somehow... maybe I'm just putting too much pressure on this, trying to make it into a masterpiece by changing it radically, but unintentionally going against the grain again and again. It's like weaving a tapestry and unraveling it every time I reach the same row.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 23:46:23 GMT
Meh, there's always smut I can put in there, considering it's game of thrones. That always works, hahaha. I think I'm trying too hard - this MS has been kind of a love-hate piece for me since its conception so many years ago; I like a lot of elements in it, I like how I developed some of those ideas in particular, but then there are some things that I just feel like I should do better somehow... maybe I'm just putting too much pressure on this, trying to make it into a masterpiece by changing it radically, but unintentionally going against the grain again and again. It's like weaving a tapestry and unraveling it every time I reach the same row. Yeah, suppose so. But my story has a whole bunch of nothing, I suppose it would've been better if I kept in my original second page (I really regret it now...)
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 22, 2018 23:52:03 GMT
That always works, hahaha. I think I'm trying too hard - this MS has been kind of a love-hate piece for me since its conception so many years ago; I like a lot of elements in it, I like how I developed some of those ideas in particular, but then there are some things that I just feel like I should do better somehow... maybe I'm just putting too much pressure on this, trying to make it into a masterpiece by changing it radically, but unintentionally going against the grain again and again. It's like weaving a tapestry and unraveling it every time I reach the same row. Yeah, suppose so. But my story has a whole bunch of nothing, I suppose it would've been better if I kept in my original second page (I really regret it now...) Well, can you still go back and edit? It's never too late until it's posted... Maybe if I printed this out and took it somewhere nice... that might spur me into action better than staring at a monitor, but the thing is, now is when I have time and opportunity to do it. I have actually made a few pages of progress, but I still have 256 pages to go... :gasp:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 23:54:05 GMT
Yeah, suppose so. But my story has a whole bunch of nothing, I suppose it would've been better if I kept in my original second page (I really regret it now...) Well, can you still go back and edit? It's never too late until it's posted... Maybe if I printed this out and took it somewhere nice... that might spur me into action better than staring at a monitor, but the thing is, now is when I have time and opportunity to do it. I have actually made a few pages of progress, but I still have 256 pages to go... Cause I lost it.
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 22, 2018 23:56:36 GMT
Well, can you still go back and edit? It's never too late until it's posted... Maybe if I printed this out and took it somewhere nice... that might spur me into action better than staring at a monitor, but the thing is, now is when I have time and opportunity to do it. I have actually made a few pages of progress, but I still have 256 pages to go... Cause I lost it. Reconstruct...? Often times I find my second attempt after losing something turns out much better. Or, alternatively, just fill in the blanks you're missing! You said you have no build up, can you retroactively add some?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 23:57:37 GMT
Cause I lost it. Reconstruct...? Often times I find my second attempt after losing something turns out much better. Or, alternatively, just fill in the blanks you're missing! You said you have no build up, can you retroactively add some? I mean to say I deleted it and replaced it with something different, which I now regret.
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Post by Gwyvian on Mar 23, 2018 0:05:33 GMT
Reconstruct...? Often times I find my second attempt after losing something turns out much better. Or, alternatively, just fill in the blanks you're missing! You said you have no build up, can you retroactively add some? I mean to say I deleted it and replaced it with something different, which I now regret. I got that. Although, if you haven't closed the document since then you can just copy out what you've got for safe keeping into a fresh document and just hit undo until all your original text is restored... I'm a little manic about creating multiple saves of different versions I write in different places exactly so I don't have this kind of situation, but sometimes it happens. I also had a hard drive melt on me one time and I lost a very good piece I'd been working on for months and months, I had to totally rewrite almost three quarters of it - really hated that experience.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 23, 2018 1:08:51 GMT
Cause I lost it. Reconstruct...? Often times I find my second attempt after losing something turns out much better. Or, alternatively, just fill in the blanks you're missing! You said you have no build up, can you retroactively add some? it's happened to me to.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 4:17:23 GMT
As much as I dislike guest reviews on FFN as you can't PM the person who gave the review. They do occasionally prove useful. This is a guest review I just got...
Something I've been wondering since the original rendition of this story. Will you be doing the other prequels and the clone wars, if you cover them, as separate stories, or just as one massive story?
They ask a very good question and I really don't have an answer... Ah the joys of an off the wall idea proving far more successful that you had thought...
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Post by colfoley on Mar 23, 2018 8:15:01 GMT
As much as I dislike guest reviews on FFN as you can't PM the person who gave the review. They do occasionally prove useful. This is a guest review I just got... Something I've been wondering since the original rendition of this story. Will you be doing the other prequels and the clone wars, if you cover them, as separate stories, or just as one massive story?They ask a very good question and I really don't have an answer... Ah the joys of an off the wall idea proving far more successful that you had thought... I ended up marrying Abigail Shepard and James Vega because of fan fiction reviews...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 8:43:26 GMT
Ignore that other thing, tbh. My browser sometimes ends up on other pages, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 9:10:35 GMT
As much as I dislike guest reviews on FFN as you can't PM the person who gave the review. They do occasionally prove useful. This is a guest review I just got... Something I've been wondering since the original rendition of this story. Will you be doing the other prequels and the clone wars, if you cover them, as separate stories, or just as one massive story?They ask a very good question and I really don't have an answer... Ah the joys of an off the wall idea proving far more successful that you had thought... I ended up marrying Abigail Shepard and James Vega because of fan fiction reviews... That's not so bad. I've had much worse suggestions via reviews.... some made me at the thought.
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^ When I read the reviews for my fanfic, I would consider the opinions / suggestions if they're offered. However, I go along the path I've envisioned and rarely change course unless I find the premise not workable / plausible after self editing / self review.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 20:19:41 GMT
^ When I read the reviews for my fanfic, I would consider the opinions / suggestions if they're offered. However, I go along the path I've envisioned and rarely change course unless I find the premise not workable / plausible after self editing / self review. That's the way to be. So far as fan fiction writing goes I follow the simple rule, I'll write about what interests me and if others like it that's all good. That said I've found out a few bits of Star Wars lore I didn't know about via reviews and might end up using in some way.
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