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Post by kino on Jul 14, 2017 20:25:50 GMT
The play through I'm doing now I've put that stupid AI from Voeld on the Nexus. I have a bad feeling about that decision. Only some awkward dialogues with SAM. Ah. Well, I've had one of those. I suspect this is one of those choices that'll bite me in the ass further down the road. Like, sequel or DLC down the road
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Post by colfoley on Jul 14, 2017 20:37:48 GMT
The play through I'm doing now I've put that stupid AI from Voeld on the Nexus. I have a bad feeling about that decision. Only some awkward dialogues with SAM. don't forget the email from Kesh.
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Post by kino on Jul 14, 2017 20:52:19 GMT
Only some awkward dialogues with SAM. don't forget the email from Kesh. Saw that one, too. I'm right, this is going to wind up biting me in the ass, dammit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 21:52:36 GMT
I love giving it to the Angara for two reasons:
1. Final battle assistance from Mind of Voeld which sounds so cool, like a name from doctor who or something 2. when you give it to the angara you can go ask it questions in the resistance HQ. Her answers completely amuse me.
Someone spoil me on what happens when you keep it on nexus pretty pls.
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Post by Guts on Jul 14, 2017 22:06:23 GMT
I love giving it to the Angara for two reasons: 1. Final battle assistance from Mind of Voeld which sounds so cool, like a name from doctor who or something 2. when you give it to the angara you can go ask it questions in the resistance HQ. Her answers completely amuse me. Someone spoil me on what happens when you keep it on nexus pretty pls. "Well, good luck." "I hope you die." That bit cracks me up all the time. I get some HK-47 vibes from that AI.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 22:09:52 GMT
I love giving it to the Angara for two reasons: 1. Final battle assistance from Mind of Voeld which sounds so cool, like a name from doctor who or something 2. when you give it to the angara you can go ask it questions in the resistance HQ. Her answers completely amuse me. Someone spoil me on what happens when you keep it on nexus pretty pls. "Well, good luck." "I hope you die." That bit cracks me up all the time. I get some HK-47 vibes from that AI. So kind similar to responses you get to questions you ask when at resistance. At least it's consistent. LMAO
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Post by majesticjazz on Jul 15, 2017 1:29:01 GMT
It was not a new Bioware game as in a new IP that has never been done before like Anthem. When ME1 came out, there was no other Mass Effect to compare it to. When Dragon Age: Origins came out, there was no other Dragon Age game to compare it to (even though some compared it to BG). With MEA, it is the 4th entry in the Mass Effect franchise. It was not a new game because there were already 3 ME games that came before it, 3 games that got great review scores and 3 games that were all GOTY contenders with ME2 being the most popular. Stop trying to dig a way out of this and manipulate things to make it seem like MEA was some new IP that Bioware had no background on or had never done before. SWTOR was Bioware's first MMO, DAI was their first attempt with a semi open-world. ME1 was their first action-shooter/RPG. ME3 was their first multiplayer. What was the "first" with MEA? Aren't you the dude who's crying because Bioware's still releasing patches for Andromeda? I'll repeat it again for the slow: Every game Bioware releases is judged harshly based on the previous game they've released. Whether it's a new IP - in which case it's judged against the suddenly flawless previous IP, or a new installment in a franchise - in which case it's judged against the suddenly flawless previous installment in said franchise. The rose colored glasses when it comes to Bioware are utterly ridiculous. Every game has had flaws. No game has been perfect. Yet every game when it comes out is all of a sudden trashed for not being perfect and the flaws in previous games are completely overlooked, even by people who were screaming about them when that game was released. It's a truly staggering amount of revisionist history. If all Bioware games are trashed, then please explain why that MEA is the ONLY Bioware game to ever have a low 70s average review score. By your logic, all other Bioware games should have been rated in the low 70s. Also, please explain why games like KOTOR, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, and DAI all won a slew of GOTY awards while MEA probably wont even be in the GOTY conversation? Please, explain....
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Post by simit on Jul 15, 2017 11:56:28 GMT
I was offline for a coupla weeks there while i moved house, had forgot to download some games from console libraries an as a result was left with games that needed the internet 😆😆 so i bought horizon zero dawn and final fantasy 15, HZD icouldnt even finish i found it totally boring an reminded me of nothing more than farcry with robo dino's an a female pc, ffxv i suprised myself by liking even though the 3 companions are annoying as hell, constantly repeat the same boring dialogue an tbh just straight up bore the shit out me
I have more complaints with ffxv than mea but will continue to play ffxv
MEA, at lauch an including all the bugs, still had better facial animations an dialogue than both these games
MEA is a showcase for entitled an bitter gamers an a ever present shite an abysmal gamer press who just coat tale everything for likes an views
MEA aint a bad game, it suffered from nothing no other game hasnt an still excels at some things, it lies about the middle of the pact for me in games released that i played last few year but bottom of the ME list, HZD is low on my list yet that game is praised in nigh every department, ffxv, to me, wasnt even complete.
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Post by Vortex13 on Jul 15, 2017 13:52:35 GMT
Sure, the Geth didn't talk to us in ME 1, but little insights like the Geth shrine on Feros, or the Quarian music played after destroying the Geth base pointed to there being more to this collective intelligence than just being mindless murder bots. No such narrative exploration or little story hook into potential stories for the Remnant though. And it's not like aliens, like the Rachni, were so esoteric and outside our understanding that we couldn't possibly hope to comprehend them. They were different enough to warrant the 'alien' descriptor, but I found it no more difficult to understand and then empathize with the Rachni Queen than I did with Garus or Mordin. Andromeda certainly wouldn't have been hurt to vary the Heleus cluster and make it seem more 'alien' than how it turned out to be. yes there are. 1. The true nature of the scourge. 2. What was the purpose in creating the Angara? 3. What is the relationship between the Yevarra and the Jardaan? Are the Yevarra Jardaan? 4.What was the AI on Voeld? Angarra, Jardaan or something else? Sure these mysteries might not go anywhere...like the geth shrine on Feros...but they do point to a larger mystery. Okay, so they have those potential plot strands hanging out there, but do we really think that we can expect something actually 'alien' out of them? Honestly, I would be genuinely surprised if we do. Judging by BioWare's current (downward IMO) trend, we will more than likely get another rubber-foreheaded human alien who's sole purpose is for our PC to bump uglies with, generic villains who's sole motivation is: "In it for the evilolz", or (going of BioWare's use of former Halo writers) we might even get, god forbid... Ancient Advanced Humans who will be one of the previous two options. The last piece of quality, and 'alien' writing I saw in the Mass Effect franchise had to be the Legion and the Geth in ME 2, of course, seeing as how quickly all of that characterization was rectonned out the airlock in favor of human(like) wannabe Pinocchio-bots in ME 3 doesn't really leave me with much confidence that BioWare will be able to add in something entirely new and on par with previous 'alien' depictions. I'm not saying it's totally impossible, just highly,highly unlikely, which is why I would like to see older aliens like the Rachni, Thorian, Hanar, or Elcor make the jump to Andromeda, at least that way we are guaranteed to have something 'alien' in the setting.
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Post by Aries on Jul 15, 2017 14:18:11 GMT
In a nutshell? It's an ok game but a terrible Mass Effect game. People keep saying it's the first game of a new trilogy, not the fourth game in the series, so they should get a pass. I say bullshit. If that's the case take Mass Effect out of the title. The animations are a red herring. BioWare stand or fall on their characters, dialogue and story. They fell hard this time. It should be getting a pass on things like character development, choices having galaxy-shattering effects, every plot point being immediately resolved, etc. It should not get free pass on things like art quality (including animations), somewhat mediocre writing, repetitiveness of certain content, etc. Comparing one game to three in these regard is just looking for reason to hate it.
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Post by Iakus on Jul 15, 2017 14:37:59 GMT
yes there are. 1. The true nature of the scourge. 2. What was the purpose in creating the Angara? 3. What is the relationship between the Yevarra and the Jardaan? Are the Yevarra Jardaan? 4.What was the AI on Voeld? Angarra, Jardaan or something else? Sure these mysteries might not go anywhere...like the geth shrine on Feros...but they do point to a larger mystery. Okay, so they have those potential plot strands hanging out there, but do we really think that we can expect something actually 'alien' out of them? Honestly, I would be genuinely surprised if we do. Judging by BioWare's current (downward IMO) trend, we will more than likely get another rubber-foreheaded human alien who's sole purpose is for our PC to bump uglies with, generic villains who's sole motivation is: "In it for the evilolz", or (going of BioWare's use of former Halo writers) we might even get, god forbid... Ancient Advanced Humans who will be one of the previous two options. The last piece of quality, and 'alien' writing I saw in the Mass Effect franchise had to be the Legion and the Geth in ME 2, of course, seeing as how quickly all of that characterization was rectonned out the airlock in favor of human(like) wannabe Pinocchio-bots in ME 3 doesn't really leave me with much confidence that BioWare will be able to add in something entirely new and on par with previous 'alien' depictions. I'm not saying it's totally impossible, just highly,highly unlikely, which is why I would like to see older aliens like the Rachni, Thorian, Hanar, or Elcor make the jump to Andromeda, at least that way we are guaranteed to have something 'alien' in the setting. Don't forget "Synthesis is AWESOME!"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 14:56:00 GMT
I've liked Andromeda by far more than I've liked Inquisition (the lowest point in my gaming since 2000 or whenever NWN1debuted), and as a standalone title I prefer it to any one of the ME game taken separately. While some say they played it safe, what I see is a balance of all elements, everything being good enough at least, very solid and nothing dropped off the plate. I particularly enjoyed how interactive the crew was and how much they bantered in the world and reacted to the events. My favorite thing was Remnant to a degree that I really did not have that strongly negative reaction to kett everyone seem to have, b/c I felt kett were just side mobs, and the real enemy is Remnant. I also loved the cocky voicing for the male Ryder, less so for the female particularly when she is in romance. The story plot unfolded at a good pace, and had enough flexibility to just follow the main and planetary stories without being bogged down by the minutiae.i liked the locations and battles. I also loved the cc way more than the inquisition one, and with the added improvements it's certainly my favorite in any game I played, b/c it is so easy to create diverse and realistic looking humans. MP mode is also quite a bit of fun. I am looking forward to getting back to gaming after the summer is over, and will likely start withAndromeda. I might even keep playing MP here and there over the summer. Overall, Andromeda definetly delivered a great gaming for a few months.
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 15, 2017 15:03:24 GMT
The last piece of quality, and 'alien' writing I saw in the Mass Effect franchise had to be the Legion and the Geth in ME 2, of course, seeing as how quickly all of that characterization was rectonned out the airlock in favor of human(like) wannabe Pinocchio-bots in ME 3 doesn't really leave me with much confidence that BioWare will be able to add in something entirely new and on par with previous 'alien' depictions. I'm not saying it's totally impossible, just highly,highly unlikely, which is why I would like to see older aliens like the Rachni, Thorian, Hanar, or Elcor make the jump to Andromeda, at least that way we are guaranteed to have something 'alien' in the setting. I dunno. Given that resources are about equal in either case, I'd rather have new cameo races than old ones brought back.
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Post by Sondergaard on Jul 15, 2017 15:55:06 GMT
In a nutshell? It's an ok game but a terrible Mass Effect game. People keep saying it's the first game of a new trilogy, not the fourth game in the series, so they should get a pass. I say bullshit. If that's the case take Mass Effect out of the title. The animations are a red herring. BioWare stand or fall on their characters, dialogue and story. They fell hard this time. It should be getting a pass on things like character development, choices having galaxy-shattering effects, every plot point being immediately resolved, etc. It should not get free pass on things like art quality (including animations), somewhat mediocre writing, repetitiveness of certain content, etc. Comparing one game to three in these regard is just looking for reason to hate it. After playing ME1 I ran straight out and bought ME2 & 3 (I started ME1 in December 2015). 40hrs in to ME:A I uninstalled it and sold the disc (a good reason for physical sales). That's because story, characters and dialogue weren't a patch on the OT. I didn't care about unresolved plot points, my companions or the story. For context I recently started DA:I which has received much criticism for its story and grinding open world. I love it. The characters make the game and I'm thoroughly enjoying myself. And would people please stop saying anyone with a criticism of ME:A hates it. Just makes you look ludicrously juvenile.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 15, 2017 17:33:41 GMT
I love giving it to the Angara for two reasons: 1. Final battle assistance from Mind of Voeld which sounds so cool, like a name from doctor who or something 2. when you give it to the angara you can go ask it questions in the resistance HQ. Her answers completely amuse me. Someone spoil me on what happens when you keep it on nexus pretty pls. Wait you can? * where the hell is my cloning machine?!i need to go home and see! Damn work! Lol*
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Post by Vortex13 on Jul 15, 2017 18:18:30 GMT
The last piece of quality, and 'alien' writing I saw in the Mass Effect franchise had to be the Legion and the Geth in ME 2, of course, seeing as how quickly all of that characterization was rectonned out the airlock in favor of human(like) wannabe Pinocchio-bots in ME 3 doesn't really leave me with much confidence that BioWare will be able to add in something entirely new and on par with previous 'alien' depictions. I'm not saying it's totally impossible, just highly,highly unlikely, which is why I would like to see older aliens like the Rachni, Thorian, Hanar, or Elcor make the jump to Andromeda, at least that way we are guaranteed to have something 'alien' in the setting. I dunno. Given that resources are about equal in either case, I'd rather have new cameo races than old ones brought back. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see something new. But, if its just going to me more of the same quality and about as "alien" as the Angara were then yeah, give me my space bugs and talking fungus back.
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Post by duckley on Jul 15, 2017 18:34:46 GMT
I have always much preferred Dragon Age to Mass Effect - Mass Effect series being in my top 5- 10 games for sure.
Maybe that's why I have had such a hard time understanding the severe criticism (aside from the facial animations). To me this is really fun, campy, entertaining game - a solid 8!
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Post by smilesja on Jul 15, 2017 18:43:49 GMT
Aren't you the dude who's crying because Bioware's still releasing patches for Andromeda? I'll repeat it again for the slow: Every game Bioware releases is judged harshly based on the previous game they've released. Whether it's a new IP - in which case it's judged against the suddenly flawless previous IP, or a new installment in a franchise - in which case it's judged against the suddenly flawless previous installment in said franchise. The rose colored glasses when it comes to Bioware are utterly ridiculous. Every game has had flaws. No game has been perfect. Yet every game when it comes out is all of a sudden trashed for not being perfect and the flaws in previous games are completely overlooked, even by people who were screaming about them when that game was released. It's a truly staggering amount of revisionist history. If all Bioware games are trashed, then please explain why that MEA is the ONLY Bioware game to ever have a low 70s average review score. By your logic, all other Bioware games should have been rated in the low 70s. Also, please explain why games like KOTOR, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, and DAI all won a slew of GOTY awards while MEA probably wont even be in the GOTY conversation? Please, explain.... Some people believe that DAI got help from corrupt games journalism.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 15, 2017 18:49:32 GMT
yes there are. 1. The true nature of the scourge. 2. What was the purpose in creating the Angara? 3. What is the relationship between the Yevarra and the Jardaan? Are the Yevarra Jardaan? 4.What was the AI on Voeld? Angarra, Jardaan or something else? Sure these mysteries might not go anywhere...like the geth shrine on Feros...but they do point to a larger mystery. Okay, so they have those potential plot strands hanging out there, but do we really think that we can expect something actually 'alien' out of them? Honestly, I would be genuinely surprised if we do. Judging by BioWare's current (downward IMO) trend, we will more than likely get another rubber-foreheaded human alien who's sole purpose is for our PC to bump uglies with, generic villains who's sole motivation is: "In it for the evilolz", or (going of BioWare's use of former Halo writers) we might even get, god forbid... Ancient Advanced Humans who will be one of the previous two options. The last piece of quality, and 'alien' writing I saw in the Mass Effect franchise had to be the Legion and the Geth in ME 2, of course, seeing as how quickly all of that characterization was rectonned out the airlock in favor of human(like) wannabe Pinocchio-bots in ME 3 doesn't really leave me with much confidence that BioWare will be able to add in something entirely new and on par with previous 'alien' depictions. I'm not saying it's totally impossible, just highly,highly unlikely, which is why I would like to see older aliens like the Rachni, Thorian, Hanar, or Elcor make the jump to Andromeda, at least that way we are guaranteed to have something 'alien' in the setting. i don't care if something 'looks' genuinely alien. As long as they are well written. And i feel that the Kett/Jardaan/Angara/Enemies of the Jardaan are more interesting at the end of MEA then the Reapers and Geth were at the end of ME 1. The only faction that i was intrigued to learn more about was Cerberus. Which stayed true throughout the series, the best written, most intriguing,sometimes on your side sometimes not were Cerberus. What was Cerberus. An organization led and comprised of mostly humans. So the Jardaan could be a race of ancient humans...doesn't matter...what matters is how well written and executed they are.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 19:04:55 GMT
I love giving it to the Angara for two reasons: 1. Final battle assistance from Mind of Voeld which sounds so cool, like a name from doctor who or something 2. when you give it to the angara you can go ask it questions in the resistance HQ. Her answers completely amuse me. Someone spoil me on what happens when you keep it on nexus pretty pls. Wait you can? * where the hell is my cloning machine?!i need to go home and see! Damn work! Lol* Enjoy the prezzie!
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 15, 2017 19:07:25 GMT
I dunno. Given that resources are about equal in either case, I'd rather have new cameo races than old ones brought back. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see something new. But, if its just going to me more of the same quality and about as "alien" as the Angara were then yeah, give me my space bugs and talking fungus back. Well, I figure that if they can't write new aliens well, they'd probably screw up the old aliens too.
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Post by Guts on Jul 15, 2017 19:35:14 GMT
Okay, so they have those potential plot strands hanging out there, but do we really think that we can expect something actually 'alien' out of them? Honestly, I would be genuinely surprised if we do. Judging by BioWare's current (downward IMO) trend, we will more than likely get another rubber-foreheaded human alien who's sole purpose is for our PC to bump uglies with, generic villains who's sole motivation is: "In it for the evilolz", or (going of BioWare's use of former Halo writers) we might even get, god forbid... Ancient Advanced Humans who will be one of the previous two options. The last piece of quality, and 'alien' writing I saw in the Mass Effect franchise had to be the Legion and the Geth in ME 2, of course, seeing as how quickly all of that characterization was rectonned out the airlock in favor of human(like) wannabe Pinocchio-bots in ME 3 doesn't really leave me with much confidence that BioWare will be able to add in something entirely new and on par with previous 'alien' depictions. I'm not saying it's totally impossible, just highly,highly unlikely, which is why I would like to see older aliens like the Rachni, Thorian, Hanar, or Elcor make the jump to Andromeda, at least that way we are guaranteed to have something 'alien' in the setting. i don't care if something 'looks' genuinely alien. As long as they are well written. And i feel that the Kett/Jardaan/Angara/Enemies of the Jardaan are more interesting at the end of MEA then the Reapers and Geth were at the end of ME 1. The only faction that i was intrigued to learn more about was Cerberus. Which stayed true throughout the series, the best written, most intriguing,sometimes on your side sometimes not were Cerberus. What was Cerberus. An organization led and comprised of mostly humans. So the Jardaan could be a race of ancient humans...doesn't matter...what matters is how well written and executed they are. I think it'd be pretty interesting if the fate of Jardaan also tied into the Fermi Paradox in a way different from the reapers, where the Jardaan alone caused their own demise.
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Post by Vortex13 on Jul 15, 2017 21:09:43 GMT
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see something new. But, if its just going to me more of the same quality and about as "alien" as the Angara were then yeah, give me my space bugs and talking fungus back. Well, I figure that if they can't write new aliens well, they'd probably screw up the old aliens too. Very true, and I would hate to see the likes of the Rachni ruined. But at the same time the 'alien' element for those species is already established, and if the Angaran and the Khett are the best BioWare could come up with, then I would say they could use all the help they can get.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 15, 2017 21:15:19 GMT
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see something new. But, if its just going to me more of the same quality and about as "alien" as the Angara were then yeah, give me my space bugs and talking fungus back. The thing is, I really am uninterested in seeing more Milky Way species in Andromeda. If there is a Quarian Ark and it does have drell, hanar, and elcor, then all we did was pick up and move house. It's less interesting because I know about all the species in the Milky Way already, plus it lends credence to the idea that we're only in Andromeda so Bioware didn't have to deal with the ME3 ending. Basically, I just want more Andromeda aliens.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 21:37:37 GMT
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see something new. But, if its just going to me more of the same quality and about as "alien" as the Angara were then yeah, give me my space bugs and talking fungus back. The thing is, I really am uninterested in seeing more Milky Way species in Andromeda. If there is a Quarian Ark and it does have drell, hanar, and elcor, then all we did was pick up and move house. It's less interesting because I know about all the species in the Milky Way already, plus it lends credence to the idea that we're only in Andromeda so Bioware didn't have to deal with the ME3 ending. Basically, I just want more Andromeda aliens. But at the same time, it's more like the milky way species expanded to another galaxy. I think having some of all the races in a new galaxy with some new races is a great thing. We all know for sure that we are in andromeda because of ME3's ending. Pretending otherwise is kind of pointless. That idea has all the credence it needs. BW gave it credence by standing by an absurd ending that left things in such a weird state that they had to leave the galaxy. All this for the sake of 'choices'. I never understood how giving the player choices with this kind of ending because the players like and wanted them - but ultimately causing the end of the game's existence in the milky way galaxy - made sense on any level. I feel like it's a crazy parent ranting 'You want choices in the endings? I'll give you choices! Here, end it however you like but it's going ruin everything because those choices can't be undone!'
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