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Post by Guts on Jul 13, 2017 4:48:04 GMT
Ever since this game came out, it's been receiving a lot of flak from people,and I mean a lot. Characters are bad, story is bad, voice acting is bad, animations are bad, etc. I feel that some of these complaints are certainly valid like the facial animations, but I feel this issue has not only been beaten to death, but it's also overblown (Yongyea, you aren't helping dammit) worst facial animations would have to go to Ride to Hell Retribution imho, I didn't thing the voice acting was bad at all, at least when it came to the squadmates, characters were certainly fun, but again these were the squadmates, was the dialogue bad, yeah at times it was pretty crappy, that shooting him in the face comment Liam made being the most egregious, other times I liked it, story was good AT TIMES, I feel that the writers played it way too safe in several instances and I feel the archon was a missed opportunity like the whole sibling thing. UI sucked though, no arguments there. The dialogue tree could've had more renegade-y options, also I did feel that there were times where the dialogue I picked didn't sound like what I wanted, but I think I remember having those times in the OT. What do you guys think of these criticisms? I'm genuinely curious.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 13, 2017 5:00:02 GMT
Its really subjective in my opinion. I do think there are flaws in the game and I think a score of 8/10 is valid because there were issues. I do think some people have an agenda because they feel EA/BioWare somewhere along the lines wronged them will go out of their way to trash talk the game. I found a lot of the things that people really disliked about Andromeda have been present in prior BioWare games and to be disappointed they have not fixed those issues is one thing, but to be shocked and upset that those are problems in their games is something else to me. From my experiences the story dialogue has always had cheesy elements to it and BioWare has never been able to make a UI that I really like (mind you I have a hard time saying I liked any from any game).
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Post by colfoley on Jul 13, 2017 5:08:35 GMT
It sounds like you had a pretty baseline experience honestly just where some people go "what no renegade options?0/10" your response is actually measured.
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Post by majesticjazz on Jul 13, 2017 5:13:56 GMT
Ever since this game came out, it's been receiving a lot of flak from people,and I mean a lot. Characters are bad, story is bad, voice acting is bad, animations are bad, etc. I feel that some of these complaints are certainly valid like the facial animations, but I feel this issue has not only been beaten to death, but it's also overblown (Yongyea, you aren't helping dammit) worst facial animations would have to go to Ride to Hell Retribution imho, I didn't thing the voice acting was bad at all, at least when it came to the squadmates, characters were certainly fun, but again these were the squadmates, was the dialogue bad, yeah at times it was pretty crappy, that shooting him in the face comment Liam made being the most egregious, other times I liked it, story was good AT TIMES, I feel that the writers played it way too safe in several instances and I feel the archon was a missed opportunity like the whole sibling thing. UI sucked though, no arguments there. The dialogue tree could've had more renegade-y options, also I did feel that there were times where the dialogue I picked didn't sound like what I wanted, but I think I remember having those times in the OT. What do you guys think of these criticisms? I'm genuinely curious. Bioware released a game in a bad state and as of today, they are still retroactively correcting their mistakes. Does other developers (Bethesda) do the same thing? Yes, but at least their games shine in many other areas. Also, Bioware has never released a game in such a bad state, which is even more surprising, it just isn't their personality. With MEA, it was just not a solid game all around, especially being part of the ME brand and coming from Bioware. People here think that some hashtag movement will convince Bioware to make SP DLC but that is something a naive 5-year old would do. Anyone with knowledge of business and the industry would know that everything is based on money and right now, if EA decides not to go forward with SP DLC, it is because they have internal numbers that shows them that it would not be profitable (like monitoring how many people are playing the game now vs how many were playing at launch etc....) A hashtag movement is not going to make EA forget about what their numbers show them. I think it is pretty obvious to them that they know that Bioware and ME has a strong fanbase and that a lot of fans love their games and will always support Mass Effect, but if their internal numbers shows them that it doesn't make good business sense to put money into a venture that they believe will not yield a certain level of profits, then thats that. But that is just logic, people here are more like Hope > Logic
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Post by suikoden on Jul 13, 2017 5:17:33 GMT
Don't mind if I do!
This video sums everything up:
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Post by isaidlunch on Jul 13, 2017 5:44:41 GMT
I think the complaints are justified, the story and squadmate/crew writing plays it so safe that it's boring. Except for Liam who is somehow chosen for the Pathfinder team despite having schizophrenia/asperger's/some mental disability? that makes him very annoying to deal with and completely unsuited for his position.
There's just not much reason to care about any character or anything that is going on in this game. It's all inoffensive fan-fiction tier quality writing. Even the characters don't care about anything I do, they just grumble about it for 5 seconds and move on. It also doesn't help that Ryder is a pushover who gets scolded by literal nobodies like "Angry Woman" and takes it like a bitch, meanwhile Shepard could routinely lecture and threaten rude people. He/she also watches bad movies ironically, wears a wife-beater with Dr Dre Beats and tries to convert religious people to atheism. Do I really want to identify with a protagonist like this?
The open-world content is also boring af even though people asked Bioware a million times not to repeat the same mistakes of DAI, which they did
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Post by vonuber on Jul 13, 2017 6:46:47 GMT
Don't mind if I do! This video sums everything up: Try buying the game, playing it to the end and then commenting. @op, it's basically people like suikoden who have a strange fetish about shitposting about the game endlessly. It has(d) issues as pointed out, but it's no car crash.
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Post by suikoden on Jul 13, 2017 6:48:16 GMT
Don't mind if I do! This video sums everything up: Try buying the game, playing it to the end and then commenting. Better off giving the 10 hour trial a go for $5 and reading up on reviews and online play through - if you're still interested, then buy it.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jul 13, 2017 7:10:10 GMT
Try buying the game, playing it to the end and then commenting. Better off giving the 10 hour trial a go for $5 and reading up on reviews and online play through - if you're still interested, then buy it. Need to include warning about those 10 hours counting towards multiplayer.Very much so.True. Also that video is 3 months out of date -this one is more current:
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Post by suikoden on Jul 13, 2017 7:20:24 GMT
Don't mind if I do! This video sums everything up: Try buying the game, playing it to the end and then commenting. @op, it's basically people like suikoden who have a strange fetish about shitposting about the game endlessly. It has(d) issues as pointed out, but it's no car crash. Why would you buy the game if you can try it for $5? You'll then have a better idea if the game is for you or not. Blind purchases (preorders in particular) are part of the problem regarding why developers push out mediocre content and then patch it after they have their money. Best to make use of all of your options before plunking down the $$$.
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Post by Sondergaard on Jul 13, 2017 7:35:59 GMT
In a nutshell? It's an ok game but a terrible Mass Effect game. People keep saying it's the first game of a new trilogy, not the fourth game in the series, so they should get a pass. I say bullshit. If that's the case take Mass Effect out of the title. The animations are a red herring. BioWare stand or fall on their characters, dialogue and story. They fell hard this time.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 13, 2017 7:53:42 GMT
Better off giving the 10 hour trial a go for $5 and reading up on reviews and online play through - if you're still interested, then buy it. Need to include warning about those 10 hours counting towards multiplayer.Very much so.True. Also that video is 3 months out of date -this one is more current: To me, this version is the full-priced version. It's still $60 on Origin. I'm glad I bought it when I did during that brief sale. What I thought to be was a knee-jerk sale turned out to be well-played. Anyway, 1.09 runs smooth on the PS4. It's a solid game. The usual complaints of dialogue and storytelling are there, but not any worse than the original trilogy. You'll go cross-eyed looking at your quest and inventory pages, though. Other than that... get ready to lose about 90 hours of your life trying your best to lead some cool squadmates like Drack (highly recommend you hang with him) and wish the Nomad had a turret-hole. It's better than ME1 by leaps and bounds. The storyline is take it or leave it with some folks and I get that. For me, it was take after a complete playthrough. All of the wreckage that was shown at launch has been cleaned up in my opinion based on two playthroughs on the PS4. If this game, 1.09, was at launch, Andromeda would be a contender for game of the year. I know the story purists are going to call me names, but the overall story is good. Lots of hits and some noticeable misses, but overall... it's a winner. If DLC comes out, people are still going to remember 3-17-17, but hopefully as an anomaly instead of habitual like every other AAA company that ever existed. The Architect is unbelievable.
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Post by vonuber on Jul 13, 2017 8:15:17 GMT
Why would you buy the game if you can try it for $5? You'll then have a better idea if the game is for you or not. Blind purchases (preorders in particular) are part of the problem regarding why developers push out mediocre content and then patch it after they have their money. Best to make use of all of your options before plunking down the $$$. So why write over a thousand posts on this forum saying endlessly how shit the game is? Why?
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Post by suikoden on Jul 13, 2017 8:21:28 GMT
Why would you buy the game if you can try it for $5? You'll then have a better idea if the game is for you or not. Blind purchases (preorders in particular) are part of the problem regarding why developers push out mediocre content and then patch it after they have their money. Best to make use of all of your options before plunking down the $$$. So why write over a thousand posts on this forum saying endlessly how shit the game is? Why? Why post on every single one of my posts? Why spend countless hours creating gifs solely for me? Unexplained mysteries!
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Post by vonuber on Jul 13, 2017 8:37:30 GMT
Why post on every single one of my posts? Why spend countless hours creating gifs solely for me? Unexplained mysteries! You flatter yourself that I give you that much attention, but I am still awaiting an answer. Why do you do it? For what purpose?
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jul 13, 2017 8:41:26 GMT
Need to include warning about those 10 hours counting towards multiplayer.Very much so.True. Also that video is 3 months out of date -this one is more current: To me, this version is the full-priced version. It's still $60 on Origin. I'm glad I bought it when I did during that brief sale. What I thought to be was a knee-jerk sale turned out to be well-played. Anyway, 1.09 runs smooth on the PS4. It's a solid game. The usual complaints of dialogue and storytelling are there, but not any worse than the original trilogy. You'll go cross-eyed looking at your quest and inventory pages, though. Other than that... get ready to lose about 90 hours of your life trying your best to lead some cool squadmates like Drack (highly recommend you hang with him) and wish the Nomad had a turret-hole. It's better than ME1 by leaps and bounds. The storyline is take it or leave it with some folks and I get that. For me, it was take after a complete playthrough. All of the wreckage that was shown at launch has been cleaned up in my opinion based on two playthroughs on the PS4. If this game, 1.09, was at launch, Andromeda would be a contender for game of the year. I know the story purists are going to call me names, but the overall story is good. Lots of hits and some noticeable misses, but overall... it's a winner. If DLC comes out, people are still going to remember 3-17-17, but hopefully as an anomaly instead of habitual like every other AAA company that ever existed. The Architect is unbelievable. If only you had it on PC there are two mods that try and fix this: Road Rage www.nexusmods.com/masseffectandromeda/mods/254/?OP Nomad Ramming Damage www.nexusmods.com/masseffectandromeda/mods/403/?
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 13, 2017 8:51:25 GMT
To me, this version is the full-priced version. It's still $60 on Origin. I'm glad I bought it when I did during that brief sale. What I thought to be was a knee-jerk sale turned out to be well-played. Anyway, 1.09 runs smooth on the PS4. It's a solid game. The usual complaints of dialogue and storytelling are there, but not any worse than the original trilogy. You'll go cross-eyed looking at your quest and inventory pages, though. Other than that... get ready to lose about 90 hours of your life trying your best to lead some cool squadmates like Drack (highly recommend you hang with him) and wish the Nomad had a turret-hole. It's better than ME1 by leaps and bounds. The storyline is take it or leave it with some folks and I get that. For me, it was take after a complete playthrough. All of the wreckage that was shown at launch has been cleaned up in my opinion based on two playthroughs on the PS4. If this game, 1.09, was at launch, Andromeda would be a contender for game of the year. I know the story purists are going to call me names, but the overall story is good. Lots of hits and some noticeable misses, but overall... it's a winner. If DLC comes out, people are still going to remember 3-17-17, but hopefully as an anomaly instead of habitual like every other AAA company that ever existed. The Architect is unbelievable. If only you had it on PC there are two mods that try and fix this: Road Rage www.nexusmods.com/masseffectandromeda/mods/254/?OP Nomad Ramming Damage www.nexusmods.com/masseffectandromeda/mods/403/?Oh Vanguard... for I am with the PC Master Race. Parts are arriving. I will behold BioWare on 31" GSync monitor powered by a water-cooled 1080ti and i7-7770. I don't treat myself for years at a time, but when I do... it's because I can't use Ultra anymore on a BioWare game. Inquisition was HIGH and it's been two years since its release. OMG. I cannot wait. This rig will hopefully last me five years. It's been five years on this rig and I never regretted leaving consoles behind. I love mods. I love that personal touch. I love fiddling in the .cfg files even though I can potentially wreck things. I love not having to go into Game Stop anymore. So, yes... my shackles to my friend's PS4 is about to be broken. I will be noticeably absent from the forums when the rig arrives except posting my stuff (FINALLY!) from my rig. UNH! I CANNOT WAIT.
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Post by qwib on Jul 13, 2017 9:19:43 GMT
The animations were a joke and unworthy of any game in 2017. This is the most valid criticism of the game and no one can deny that. I fully support this criticism. There was no reason to not have that fixed on release day. But BW fully owned that and tried to fix it.
I'm okay with Andromeda not having the Renegade Dialogue option right now. Ryder is inexperienced and the overall atmosphere of the game is about hope. I'm a die hard Renegade player, Sith Lord and douchbag Dwarf. But Renegade Dialogue options would simply not fit this game. So I disagree on this point.
I fully sign what the OP said: Bioware played it too save and reused a lot of dramatic moments from Mass Effect 1. Also a criticism I fully stand behind. Andromeda is a new start for the Series, why do you play it so save? This is just something I don't understand.
Other than that, it's a fun game. I mean the gameplay is just superb. The Endboss fight, is an actual Endboss fight. (Inquisition Endgame was just sad and an emberassment) There are a lot of characters I come to enjoy and I would love to know what happens next. The Twins have tons of potential and their VA are just fantastic.
BTW: UI isn't the worst I have ever seen. It's okay. I have more problems right now with Deus Ex: MD, I can't deal with this UI at all. lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 9:40:07 GMT
Animation issues are trivial and overblown...good example of superficial 'mainstream" criticism criticism is. ( Kind of like: ME3 was great until the ending!)
Worst problems are world and failing to realize the setting, overbloat in content, exploration, OST, tone and writing ( compare it to something recent like Mafia III), etc.
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Post by cypherj on Jul 13, 2017 10:28:16 GMT
It's hard to say, people focus on different things, and had different experiences.
I experienced a ton of bugs and technical issues when I played the game, to the point where some days I just quit playing because they were ruining my enjoyment of the game. On the other hand you have some people that say they never experienced one major bug the whole time they were playing.
They also gave the game a more laid back tone, and had a protagonist and crew with a built in demeanor which some people liked and some people didn't. No one os wrong for liking it, and no one is wrong for disliking it.
I personally never got invested in the story, and it was one of those situations where if the game didn't take itself seriously even given the stakes of what you were trying to accomplish, I really couldn't take it seriously.
I also thought they did a poor job developing the enemy as something that should be feared and not just a fodder enemy.
In the end I didn't think the game was great or terrible, it was just alright. Grading on a school scale I think the professional reviews on Metacritic were accurate scoring the game in the mid to low 70s.
You also probably have a lot of people who put the game down, and their vision of the game is still the Addison my face is tired version of the game.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 10:42:07 GMT
Ever since this game came out, it's been receiving a lot of flak from people,and I mean a lot. Characters are bad, story is bad, voice acting is bad, animations are bad, etc. That's because that makes it sound like people have a good reason to be an obsessive whiny crybaby about the game, whereas "I still want the developers to be killed because they make games that aren't exactly what I want" shows them to be the spoiled scum they are. When in reality, the vast majority of people whining about the game are lying their asses off and know it. They see the delusional, vile anti-BioWare trolls and spout whatever lies they can come up with just to get clicks. So yeah, when you see the psychotic circlejerk whining about the game, just remember: those people don't care about major game-breaking issues and garbage writing in other games, but genuinely believe BioWare staff deserve to die because Peebee doesn't turn them on.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jul 13, 2017 10:49:32 GMT
Ever since this game came out, it's been receiving a lot of flak from people,and I mean a lot. Characters are bad, story is bad, voice acting is bad, animations are bad, etc. That's because that makes it sound like people have a good reason to be an obsessive whiny crybaby about the game, whereas "I still want the developers to be killed because they make games that aren't exactly what I want" shows them to be the spoiled scum they are. When in reality, the vast majority of people whining about the game are lying their asses off and know it. They see the delusional, vile anti-BioWare trolls and spout whatever lies they can come up with just to get clicks. So yeah, when you see the psychotic circlejerk whining about the game, just remember: those people don't care about major game-breaking issues and garbage writing in other games, but genuinely believe BioWare staff deserve to die because Peebee doesn't turn them on. So now we aren't having negative only trolls. OP is right, though. This game is heavily - heavily flawed.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 13, 2017 10:56:21 GMT
It's hard to say, people focus on different things, and had different experiences. I experienced a ton of bugs and technical issues when I played the game, to the point where some days I just quit playing because they were ruining my enjoyment of the game. On the other hand you have some people that say they never experienced one major bug the whole time they were playing. They also gave the game a more laid back tone, and had a protagonist and crew with a built in demeanor which some people liked and some people didn't. No one os wrong for liking it, and no one is wrong for disliking it. I personally never got invested in the story, and it was one of those situations where if the game didn't take itself seriously even given the stakes of what you were trying to accomplish, I really couldn't take it seriously. I also thought they did a poor job developing the enemy as something that should be feared and not just a fodder enemy. In the end I didn't think the game was great or terrible, it was just alright. Grading on a school scale I think the professional reviews on Metacritic were accurate scoring the game in the mid to low 70s. You also probably have a lot of people who put the game down, and their vision of the game is still the Addison my face is tired version of the game. I guess I'm more forgiving since patch 1.09, but all of which you said has merit. The Kett are very cliche. Very safe. And I get what you say about Ryder. You either can identify or you can't. It was very difficult for me to accept Ryder "as is." It took a playthrough and a half before I "got it." Whatever it is, it was on Keldara that I turned that corner. Game flow is a struggle for me. Like Inquisition, I literally can get sleepy getting place to place. It's like real life and no... I want to skip that or make the ride shorter. I get it's tough to fill in that huge canvas with quality material, but you need to strike a balance between investing time in riding around and slogging it through and getting to the action. I call it game flow and both Frostbite games have that issue.
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Post by fchopin on Jul 13, 2017 11:06:21 GMT
Don't mind if I do! This video sums everything up: The game has improved with the patches so maybe you should give it a try again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 11:18:08 GMT
So now we aren't having negative only trolls. OP is right, though. This game is heavily - heavily flawed. Nah, the game isn't "heavily flawed". It just has a bunch of people who want the series and developers to die if it isn't exactly what they want. And if you genuinely think there isn't something wrong with the people who devote themselves to whining about the game, just take a look at the fact that they genuinely do devote themselves to whining about the game. A normal person doesn't spend all of their time on fan sites for a game doing nothing but complaining about it. That's what a person does when they have a problem with the mere existence of things they don't personally like.
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