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Post by DoctorFox on Jul 16, 2017 13:28:33 GMT
With all the SJW crap that went on I'm actually surprised that we haven't had a black female squad mate. We've had 2 guys - Jacob (who was boring as hell) and Liam (talks jibberish all the time). How much better would it have been to have had a chick like Zoey from Firefly on your squad?
Another chance missed would have been to have a Batarian stowaway on your team. He could have been the perfect opportunity for Bioware to show people that some Batarians are good people (not like the terrorist ones we came across in ME1 and 2). He could have proved his worth as a field engineer and gave repair buffs to the Nomad etc. We've heard very little from such and intriguing race.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jul 16, 2017 14:00:30 GMT
Yep, long time ago I said that BW have this Human-Asari-Turian syndrome. So we got 1 Turian and 1 Salarian character. That's absolutely fine. Humans ? Pathfinder, Cora and Suvi is more than enough, Liam should be replaced with some Batarian/Drell character, same with Asari - PeeBee is ok, but Lexi as a doctor could be even a Volus - some bit crazy and funny doctor. Lack of diversity, no more - no less. Other thing is, that our crew origin stories are really bland - suddenly everyone would like to discover something. No one who really need to escape from Milky Way, who would like to change his life ? Eh.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 16, 2017 14:08:18 GMT
No one who really need to escape from Milky Way, who would like to change his life ? Eh. Wasn't that EXACTLY Vetra's reason for joining the initiative?
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 16, 2017 14:17:14 GMT
No one who really need to escape from Milky Way, who would like to change his life ? Eh. Wasn't that EXACTLY Vetra's reason for joining the initiative? In some ways you can even say that about the Ryder's since dear ol' dad basically got the family blacklisted due to his AI research.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 14:22:39 GMT
Yep, long time ago I said that BW have this Human-Asari-Turian syndrome. So we got 1 Turian and 1 Salarian character. That's absolutely fine. Humans ? Pathfinder, Cora and Suvi is more than enough, Liam should be replaced with some Batarian/Drell character, same with Asari - PeeBee is ok, but Lexi as a doctor could be even a Volus - some bit crazy and funny doctor. Lack of diversity, no more - no less. Other thing is, that our crew origin stories are really bland - suddenly everyone would like to discover something. No one who really need to escape from Milky Way, who would like to change his life ? Eh. Vetra was clearly escaping from something/someone in her past. Ryder can even indicate that he/she is intentionally leaving his/her past behind as well. Gather enough memory triggers, and you find out that part of the reason for the initiative is indeed to escape the Reaper threat. So, your comment is yet another exaggerated generalization made by someone who dislikes the game in order to make things appear differently than they really are. This is getting extremely predictable... and rather boring, TBH.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 14:25:07 GMT
This thread is based entirely on your personal assumption that what we got was bad and what you think is good is objectively good. A very false premise which will lead nowhere. It's a matter of taste and I enjoyed what we got in terms of squadmates thus making the notion of a "missed opportunity" your personal view which won't add anything to the objective problems of the game.
Have a nice day.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 16, 2017 14:25:55 GMT
With all the SJW crap that went on I'm actually surprised that we haven't had a black female squad mate. We've had 2 guys - Jacob (who was boring as hell) and Liam (talks jibberish all the time). How much better would it have been to have had a chick like Zoey from Firefly on your squad? Another chance missed would have been to have a Batarian stowaway on your team. He could have been the perfect opportunity for Bioware to show people that some Batarians are good people (not like the terrorist ones we came across in ME1 and 2). He could have proved his worth as a field engineer and gave repair buffs to the Nomad etc. We've heard very little from such and intriguing race. Really, shouldn't we get an Asian squadmate? Haven't had that, except maybe Kasumi? She was DLC, and only one game.
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Post by bigbad on Jul 16, 2017 14:31:39 GMT
I found the game to be fairly disappointing overall, but full of "SJW crap" (whatever that means)? Not so much.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 14:32:42 GMT
With all the SJW crap that went on I'm actually surprised that we haven't had a black female squad mate. We've had 2 guys - Jacob (who was boring as hell) and Liam (talks jibberish all the time). How much better would it have been to have had a chick like Zoey from Firefly on your squad? Another chance missed would have been to have a Batarian stowaway on your team. He could have been the perfect opportunity for Bioware to show people that some Batarians are good people (not like the terrorist ones we came across in ME1 and 2). He could have proved his worth as a field engineer and gave repair buffs to the Nomad etc. We've heard very little from such and intriguing race. Really, shouldn't we get an Asian squadmate? Haven't had that, except maybe Kasumi? She was DLC, and only one game. Once you go through the road of "shouldn't we get...." then everyone will have its own opinion. The better thing to do and the most honest in my opinion is leaving BW to write what they feel writing. Sometimes you'll love what you get, sometimes you don't. It's life.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 16, 2017 14:37:07 GMT
Really, shouldn't we get an Asian squadmate? Haven't had that, except maybe Kasumi? She was DLC, and only one game. Once you go through the road of "shouldn't we get...." then everyone will have its own opinion. The better thing to do and the most honest in my opinion is leaving BW to write what they feel writing. Sometimes you'll love what you get, sometimes you don't. It's life. Ooh absolutely right. I was more talking in response to the OP wanting a black female, not my actual desire for different ethnicities. More saying shouldn't he/she be requesting Asian over black female because of "SJW crap". I totally agree with your point.
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Post by jaegerbane on Jul 16, 2017 14:38:22 GMT
The only thing I can really disapprove of RE: squadmates is that we only got six. This was enough of a number for the original game but the sheer length of this one really needed more, and tbh not getting a salarian squadmate again is getting silly.... though IIRC, there was one planned but lack of time meant he didn't get in to the roster.
As for 'SJW crap'... honestly, we get two black guys in four games and it's 'SJWs taking over bioware'? Calm down, dear.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 14:51:23 GMT
The only thing I can really disapprove of RE: squadmates is that we only got six. This was enough of a number for the original game but the sheer length of this one really needed more, and tbh not getting a salarian squadmate again is getting silly.... though IIRC, there was one planned but lack of time meant he didn't get in to the roster. As for 'SJW crap'... honestly, we get two black guys in four games and it's 'SJWs taking over bioware'? Calm down, dear. I think adding in a larger number of squad mates would have been more cumbersome... dragged the story out even more with more pacing problems than it already has. I'm happiest with a smallish "cast" of main characters.
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Post by kino on Jul 16, 2017 14:53:13 GMT
Nah. I was perfectly happy with the squad mates we got and their backstories, "SJW crap" and all.
Now a Zoey type character would've been cool but so is most anything else Firefly related. Could've added in a River or Booker and I'd be fine with it.
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Post by abaris on Jul 16, 2017 14:55:41 GMT
With all the SJW crap that went on I'm actually surprised that we haven't had a black female squad mate. You know, there's a lot to be said on the weak turnout we got. But reading this sentence makes me stop in my tracks. Why not a black female squadmate? Oh, forget I asked. I don't want to force you into mental acrobatics in order to not come over as a misogynist racist.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 16, 2017 17:34:19 GMT
*shrugs* I would have preferred our cut 7th squadamte returned. I liked him in MEA and it's Garrus' voice actor! I would have been very happy, and the big choice on the flagship would have made a lot more sense! Wait, who? The cut Salarian squadmate was voiced by Garrus's VA??
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 16, 2017 17:38:27 GMT
Wait, who? The cut Salarian squadmate was voiced by Garrus's VA?? Saelen! The STG Salarian. Brandon's second time as a Salarian! Aww man!! We should start that hashtag! That would've been awesome! Maybe in MEA2??
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 16, 2017 17:47:29 GMT
This thread is based entirely on your personal assumption that what we got was bad and what you think is good is objectively good. A very false premise which will lead nowhere. It's a matter of taste and I enjoyed what we got in terms of squadmates thus making the notion of a "missed opportunity" your personal view which won't add anything to the objective problems of the game. Have a nice day.
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Post by DoctorFox on Jul 16, 2017 20:58:33 GMT
This thread is based entirely on your personal assumption that what we got was bad and what you think is good is objectively good. A very false premise which will lead nowhere. It's a matter of taste and I enjoyed what we got in terms of squadmates thus making the notion of a "missed opportunity" your personal view which won't add anything to the objective problems of the game. Have a nice day. Sometimes it's just nice to imagine 'what if?' It doesn't have to go anywhere but it is fun to speculate. And maybe Bioware will take onboard some of these ideas and bring them into fruition. I'd love if they added a Batarian Squadmate via SP DLC. Probably won't happen but it'd be nice. The point of the thread was to make Bioware think about these opportunities. What we got was a copy-paster set of squadmates. But we've never had a Batarian Squadmate before so that would have been a good thing to introduce to ME:A. It would have been new and ground-breaking with a unique perspective. Hell Garrus even said that one of his crew was a Batarian before Sidonis ratted them out and got his crew killed.
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Post by Uchimura on Jul 16, 2017 21:37:46 GMT
More alien squadmates would be cool. I've never found the starting human squadmates to be anything but boring.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 16, 2017 21:49:23 GMT
And here i am judging characters as individuals. MEA is probably biowares third best cast. Sure there is no Cassandra Pentaghast or Garrus Vakarian but there is also no Oghren or Liara either.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 21:54:10 GMT
Why is anyone pretending the OP is anything but a racist troll?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 22:25:12 GMT
Why is anyone pretending the OP is anything but a racist troll? Why are you always so hostile towards people that have anything critical to say about the game?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 22:30:41 GMT
Why are you always so hostile towards people that have anything critical to say about the game? Well, I'm so sorry that I have little tolerance for people who screech "SJW crap" over the mere existence of non-white, non-male, and/or non-straight people in BioWare games.
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Post by sil on Jul 16, 2017 23:25:18 GMT
Let's not drag down yet another thread with bullshit SJW debates. I'm so sick of them.
On the topic at hand, yes, I'd have loved them to be a bit more experimental. I'm so bored of having the usual human, turian, asari and krogan team mates. Give me a powerful hanar biotic, a stowaway geth, and a Virtual Alien that wanted to escape the confines of the Ark of Antilin.
Just give me something new.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 16:05:39 GMT
1. Vetra and Jaal are awesome as fuck. 2. The squad in ME:A is not quite OT good, but have the potential to be given more games will be made in Andromeda. 3. There are only 2 clear-cut moments of SJW bullshit in ME:A. Stop spreading misinformation.
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