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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 16:07:14 GMT
1. Vetra and Jaal are awesome as fuck.  2. The squad in ME:A is not quite OT good, but have the potential to be given more games will be made in Andromeda. 3. There are only 2 clear-cut moments of SJW bullshit in ME:A. Stop spreading misinformation. No one will ever replace my precious Javik lol Tali > All.  |
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Post by Sarayne on Jul 17, 2017 16:10:37 GMT
No one will ever replace my precious Javik lol Tali > All. I really like Tali but she never lets me romance her and its just sad days all around  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 17:27:38 GMT
Tali > All. I really like Tali but she never lets me romance her and its just sad days all around I was glad she was a straight romance only, tbh. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 17:32:49 GMT
I was glad she was a straight romance only, tbh. I liked it when Jaal was, because he felt like an apology for Thane lol then I remembered Thane was meant to be bi, so Jaal is still an apology for Thane! It's perfect!  Tbh, turning Jaal bi after the fact was a bad move consistency wise, but I simply don't care for the most part.  Turning Tali bi, on the other hand, would have smacked the consistency of her character in the face and would've pissed me off a great deal. (I may be biased. Your mileage may very.) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 17:41:14 GMT
Yeah. Turning Jaal bi after the fact was a bad move consistency wise, but I simply don't care for the most part. Turning Tali bi, on the other hand, would have smacked the consistency of her character in the face and would've pissed me off a great deal. (I may be biased. You mileage may very.) I will never forgive them for Thane. So much hope and support, and then nothing.  They did a great job with Jaal because he never rejected Scott, so nothing about him liking Scott is out of left field. Tali was actually planned bi, but it changed, so there is an awkward moment with her and female Shepard that could have meant more, but they were careful not to linger on it. Still don't like her Garrus crush though. Made me feel guilty lol What they did to Thane was cruel to say the least, no argument there. I'm not a big fan of retcons, so making Jaal bi wasn't met with applause by me. That being said, I didn't really care all that much. Tali, on the other hand, made much more sense as a straight only romance as I feel that MaleShep had chemistry with her from the jump and FemShep does not. I thought the Garrus crush was cute, but I always romanced Tali as MaleShep and Garrus as FemShep so I never saw it in person. My own thoughts, of course. |
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Post by smilesja on Jul 17, 2017 17:45:01 GMT
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Post by sil on Jul 17, 2017 17:47:57 GMT
I'm still angry at bioware for what they did to Jacob. Yeah, that was particularly shitty. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 17:58:10 GMT
I'm still angry at bioware for what they did to Jacob. Or the fact Liam is compared to him.  Liam is better, tbh.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 18:03:33 GMT
Liam is better, tbh. Out of all the human squadmates in ME, only Liam and Cora grew on me. I never got attached to Kaidan, Ash, Miranda or Jacob. Except for the aliens, MET had very bland squadmates imo. Agreed. Liam may have been a massive fuckup who was a jerk to ma waifu, but at least he was an interesting character. Cora was interesting, but her constant "I was an asari commando" weabloo fangirling was a bit tiresome, imo. No other human character in all of ME has grabbed my attention like those two did, so I concede your final point as well. |
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Post by kumazan on Jul 17, 2017 18:09:36 GMT
Liam is better, tbh. Out of all the human squadmates in ME, only Liam and Cora grew on me. I never got attached to Kaidan, Ash, Miranda or Jacob. Except for the aliens, MET had very bland squadmates imo. Ash was cool in ME1 though, but then ME3 happened.  Miranda and Jack were good too, imo, even with all their clichés. |
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Post by xassantex on Jul 17, 2017 18:12:56 GMT
what does social justice warrior crap look like ?
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Post by derrame on Jul 17, 2017 18:13:01 GMT
i agree
black woman and a batarian, i'd love to have that
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Post by Sarayne on Jul 17, 2017 18:38:36 GMT
Liam is better, tbh. Out of all the human squadmates in ME, only Liam and Cora grew on me. I never got attached to Kaidan, Ash, Miranda or Jacob. Except for the aliens, MET had very bland squadmates imo. Personally I like the Andromeda crew more than I did for the Normandy crew at the start of the trilogy. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 17, 2017 18:43:55 GMT
I really like Tali but she never lets me romance her and its just sad days all around I was glad she was a straight romance only, tbh. Tali should have been an asexual romance. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 18:44:05 GMT
With all the SJW crap that went on I'm actually surprised that we haven't had a black female squad mate. We've had 2 guys - Jacob (who was boring as hell) and Liam (talks jibberish all the time). How much better would it have been to have had a chick like Zoey from Firefly on your squad? Another chance missed would have been to have a Batarian stowaway on your team. He could have been the perfect opportunity for Bioware to show people that some Batarians are good people (not like the terrorist ones we came across in ME1 and 2). He could have proved his worth as a field engineer and gave repair buffs to the Nomad etc. We've heard very little from such and intriguing race. Really, shouldn't we get an Asian squadmate? Haven't had that, except maybe Kasumi? She was DLC, and only one game. And we have not had a single Asian leading man since Jade Empire. I was hopeful a modder who is not afraid of a backlash would create an Asian looking version of Liam... no dice so far. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 18:44:23 GMT
I was glad she was a straight romance only, tbh. Tali should have been an asexual romance. The fuck does that even mean? |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 17, 2017 18:45:08 GMT
Tali should have been an asexual romance. The fuck does that even mean? No sex. Her romance as is goes completely against the lore of the franchise. I suppose chaste is a better term for this case, but having an asexual LI in ME would be great. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 18:46:38 GMT
Tali should have been an asexual romance. The fuck does that even mean? A romance w/o an obligatory consummation. Hanako is advocating for more romances that don't build up to the sex scene as a culmination.
EDIT: And, yes, I agree that Tali's romance should have had that option given how Quarians are presented in the lore.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 18:52:43 GMT
The fuck does that even mean? No sex. Her romance as is goes completely against the lore of the franchise. Her romance is completely within the bounds of the canon. In ME2 she takes supplements and antibiotics in order to grant herself time outside of her suit. Afterwards, she is quite sick even with the assistance of the medications she took. In ME3 her body has more or less built up a defense against Shep's germs for a lack of better terms. Even then, she still gets a bit sick after the second encounter. The canon states that quarians have very weak immune systems, not no immune system. How could quarians even reproduce if they couldn't take their suits off ever? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 18:53:46 GMT
The fuck does that even mean? A romance w/o an obligatory consummation. Hanako is advocating for more romances that don't build up to the sex scene as a culmination.
EDIT: And, yes, I agree that Tali's romance should have had that option given how Quarians are presented in the lore.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 17, 2017 18:58:48 GMT
No sex. Her romance as is goes completely against the lore of the franchise. Her romance is completely within the bounds of the canon. In ME2 she takes supplements and antibiotics in order to grant herself time outside of her suit. Afterwards, she is quite sick even with the assistance of the medications she took. In ME3 her body has more or less built up a defense against Shep's germs for a lack of better terms. Even then, she still gets a bit sick after the second encounter. The canon states that quarians have very weak immune systems, not no immune system. How could quarians even reproduce if they couldn't take their suits off ever? Which is complete nonsense. Tali talks about how even doing all that it would take decades if not centuries to get acclimated to living outside their suits, yet in the romance literally just a few times with Shepard at most she is completely adapted. And even when she isn't, all she gets is a bad cold despite all the times it's mentioned that the slightest thing would hospitalize or kill them. The romance completely trivializes the situation the Quarians are in. They reproduce in clean rooms, places made completely sterile. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 19:02:18 GMT
No sex. Her romance as is goes completely against the lore of the franchise. Her romance is completely within the bounds of the canon. In ME2 she takes supplements and antibiotics in order to grant herself time outside of her suit. Afterwards, she is quite sick even with the assistance of the medications she took. In ME3 her body has more or less built up a defense against Shep's germs for a lack of better terms. Even then, she still gets a bit sick after the second encounter. The canon states that quarians have very weak immune systems, not no immune system. How could quarians even reproduce if they couldn't take their suits off ever? Well, Shepard is not planning to reproduce, so giving the option to continue the romance without forcing Tali out of the suit would have been nice. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 19:06:01 GMT
Her romance is completely within the bounds of the canon. In ME2 she takes supplements and antibiotics in order to grant herself time outside of her suit. Afterwards, she is quite sick even with the assistance of the medications she took. In ME3 her body has more or less built up a defense against Shep's germs for a lack of better terms. Even then, she still gets a bit sick after the second encounter. The canon states that quarians have very weak immune systems, not no immune system. How could quarians even reproduce if they couldn't take their suits off ever? Which is complete nonsense. Tali talks about how even doing all that it would take decades if not centuries to get acclimated to living outside their suits, yet in the romance literally just a few times with Shepard at most she is completely adapted. And even when she isn't, all she gets is a bad cold despite all the times it's mentioned that the slightest thing would hospitalize or kill them. The romance completely trivializes the situation the Quarians are in. The Quarians reproduce in clean rooms, rooms built to be completely sterile. Shepard's quarters are not that. Living outside their suits full time, not for a brief stint under the sheets is what she is referring to acclimating to. As far as hospitalize or killing them, that refers to injuries in which the skin barrier is broken either by a weapon or some other means. I.e. infections through the most vulnerable vector like gunshot wounds or cutting/stabbing damage by bladed weapons. It doesn't trivialize the quarian condition at all. All Tali can spare (with significant medical aid) is a brief 15 minutes outside of her suit. |
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Post by Iakus on Jul 17, 2017 19:06:16 GMT
No sex. Her romance as is goes completely against the lore of the franchise. Her romance is completely within the bounds of the canon. In ME2 she takes supplements and antibiotics in order to grant herself time outside of her suit. Afterwards, she is quite sick even with the assistance of the medications she took. In ME3 her body has more or less built up a defense against Shep's germs for a lack of better terms. Even then, she still gets a bit sick after the second encounter. The canon states that quarians have very weak immune systems, not no immune system. How could quarians even reproduce if they couldn't take their suits off ever? Bang someone twice and you're immune to their gems? Avoid deadly illnesses with flue shots and vitamin supplements? media2.giphy.com/media/l3fZOxBdAIOiyt8CQ/giphy.gif |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 19:07:14 GMT
Her romance is completely within the bounds of the canon. In ME2 she takes supplements and antibiotics in order to grant herself time outside of her suit. Afterwards, she is quite sick even with the assistance of the medications she took. In ME3 her body has more or less built up a defense against Shep's germs for a lack of better terms. Even then, she still gets a bit sick after the second encounter. The canon states that quarians have very weak immune systems, not no immune system. How could quarians even reproduce if they couldn't take their suits off ever? Well, Shepard is not planning to reproduce, so giving the option to continue the romance without forcing Tali out of the suit would have been nice. A friendship does not a romance make. |
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