The problem with "defend this spot" meaning "run away and 1 person hides" isn't just difficult

I honestly love platinum hacks. Nothing more fun in the entire game than tanking them with a squad.

I actually just got kicked tonight midmatch for the first time ever, because I was standing in the circle and then as I was loading out, I realized exactly what they were doing and had to facepalm at myself.

I actually find this to apply for the design of the entire game. Instead of well designed challenge, it's all annoying. Why I can only handle this game in very short bursts, basically just APEX.

Before Platinum I always wondered how they were going to increase difficulty with what they've got, as I was seriously stumped myself. But of course, make it more annoying.

Even with perfect team coordination and zero enemies entering the hack, the hack takes too. damn. long. It is more tedious than fun.

Last night I found a PUG room with 20,000 Apex rating players, all 4 of us. So we ran the Apex Platinum mission a few times. Scrapper, Human Sentinel, Huntress, Salarian Infiltrator.

First 3 times, we raced right through them with no issue. However, we didn't get a single hack but did get 3 Uploads which we managed to do fairly easily.

The last 2 attempts, we failed both because of wave 4 hacks! Wave damn 4. The first time was in the room close to extraction on Sandstorm, but the one that's completely inside. Tanking failed, because there wasn't enough distance from doorways to keep berserkers out or damage them before they got into the room.

So 2 of us tried taking their aggro, 2 invisible players stayed in the hack. Berserkers and other enemies just never left the rooms. No matter how much we shot at them from outside the doors, the berserkers would not leave the hack with the invisible players in there....so that run failed.

The 5th game, we got another wave 4 hack... same room except closer to the extraction where the hack is half in/half out the room. Had 2 taking aggro and still ran into the same problem. The hydras this time would not follow the aggro and stayed in the hack the entire time. We would kill 1 hydra, only for another to enter the hack again.


The enemy logic and respawn rate of bosses add to the stupidity of hacks right now.

Maybe if they made hacks work like in ME3MP where your progress won't regress?

See bolded words.

Even with perfect forward progress THE HACK TAKES TOO LONG TO BE FUN.

I agree, the required hack time vs. time allowance needs balancing. I was thinking about other ways they could salvage this. But then poor enemy spawn points wouldn't help with keeping the progress bar solution either. Oh, well.

Really curious on why people are having trouble with hacks... just shoot the dam enemies and kill them....and when more comes around the corner...kill them. If people are having issues handling the same idiot bots that are in brone... its the player who is the issue.

"someone said Hack sucks?" 

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-Ronnie, probably

One of two things, they lack the skill level or the raw materials (manifest) needed to tank stuff on the highest difficulty level. 

Either get good or get better gear before crying to the devs that platinum is difficult. Its supposed to be if you suck/dont have the necessary gear.

Its a joke. We breeze through 15 minute games regularly now without any effort. We talk and BS like we used to on gold.

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