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Post by chris2365 on Jul 19, 2017 4:34:33 GMT
Roll the dice. See what happens. Haha, good one! Nothing will ever beat this classic though ...
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Post by Addictress on Jul 19, 2017 4:53:05 GMT
LET'S GO CASEY! RESTORE WHAT WAS ONCE LOST!
LIKE SOLAS, RESTORING ARLATHAN TO GREATNESS! HERE WE GOOOO
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Post by Shinobu on Jul 19, 2017 5:27:14 GMT
LET'S GO CASEY! RESTORE WHAT WAS ONCE LOST! LIKE SOLAS, RESTORING ARLATHAN TO GREATNESS! HERE WE GOOOO Is he going to have to destroy our world to save his?
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Post by alexg91 on Jul 19, 2017 5:35:26 GMT
I'm glad Casey is back! It's great to have the father of Mass Effect back on the scene I'm also interested in seeing how he applies what he learned while working on HoloLens into future products.
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Post by PillarBiter on Jul 19, 2017 6:13:49 GMT
Hurray for Hudson!
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Post by cotheer on Jul 19, 2017 7:50:18 GMT
Out with the old, in with the old....
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Post by suikoden on Jul 19, 2017 8:00:47 GMT
Out with the old, in with the old.... Out with the old (bitching), in with the old (bitching)...
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Post by merlinistyle on Jul 19, 2017 8:10:15 GMT
Out with the old, in with the old.... Out with the old (bitching), in with the old (bitching)... Into this house we're born Into this world we're thrown Bitching in the Storm
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Post by antmarch456 on Jul 19, 2017 8:20:39 GMT
So we're back to "the ME3 ending is literally worse than cancer, or AIDS, or CANCERAIDS!!11!11!11111!!!!11oneone!11!" Well. At least it's a change from "MEA is literally worse than cancer, or AIDS, or CANCERAIDS!!11!!1!11!11111!!11oneone!11!1111!!!!" Not a good change, but a change. Frankly, I'm happy to have Casey back because - if nothing else - he clearly cares about Mass Effect and the future of the Mass Effect franchise. Well would you look at that, everyone who was bashing on ME:A while wearing rose-tinted glasses on ME3 is now bashing on ME3. I'm so confused as to what their actual opinions are...
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jul 19, 2017 8:21:58 GMT
Heh, I am sure that Aaryn OUT and Casey IN has nothing to do with Andromeda. Not at all.
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Post by Spectr61 on Jul 19, 2017 8:26:30 GMT
Holy Hopeful Gullibles.
The direct line to why the ME franchise is in its current state can be directly traced to Casey and Mac and their decision to end the trilogy the way they did.
Massive negative fan reaction caused the pseudo-mea culpa EC. The parent company stock (EA) tanked by a third following all this. The "team" with Casey and Mac, then came up with the bright idea to abandon the MW, since they burned it down with the endings. Amidst the still continuing controversy, Casey "left" for Microsoft.
In the ensuing void, Biower kept the Andromeda idea, and after 2 years or so of dithering about on it, put Mac in charge, and we all know how that turned out. Again, high expectations corporate-wise met with tepid at best reviews and financial performance.
Trace it all back to the endings decision.
High expectations all around, unmet. I've never heard or seen anything that references a magnificent ending to an otherwise great trilogy.
Anyone think a good line on a resume is "Director, Mass Effect 3 endings", or "Lead Writer, Mass Effect 3 endings"?
Think game developers talk amongst themselves about how good the Mass Effect Triology ended, or for that matter, how good the whole Andromeda idea turned out?
And now, lots of people seem excited the person chiefly responsible for all this is back.
I wish him and Biower well, but if the past is any predictor of the future, buckle up, and prepare for hopes and expectations to be built high, then cruelly dashed.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 19, 2017 8:26:42 GMT
Not to out myself as some kind of Bioware noob, but who are "the doctors"? Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuk, the founders of Bioware. They were medical doctors who gave it up in favor of video games, then gave up Bioware in favor of craft brewing. www.polygon.com/2013/1/28/3924078/bioware-greg-zeschuk-beer-diariesBTW, "Mass Effect" is a medical term that describes when you see the displacement of organs due to the presence of a mass on a radiograph but can't quite make out the margins of the mass itself. It also refers to the secondary effects of a mass displacing/compressing organs from which one can infer the presence of a mass. Also... just a personal note: The doctors were a group of three, before becoming a duo and then merging with EA for financial support. BioWare was supported by Interplay and even had a support studio for Infinity Engine games: Black Isle. This was the BioWare before EA got involved. The forums were very open and Black Isle held a lot of mIRC chat sessions for open Q&A. It was a very different company before EA stepped in. It was a very "hippy" environment and BioWare dictated their own future. All of that changed. For the better or for worse, that's debatable. However, the turmoil that occurred under EA, in my opinion, was EA's own doing with bad hires in leadership positions. Anyway, I'm cautiously optimistic about Hudson. He ran his mouth about fans (even if he wasn't directly referencing me) after the craptastic ME3 ending debacle. I'm not going to cut him slack... until I see results.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 19, 2017 8:27:15 GMT
Heh, I am sure that Aaryn OUT and Casey IN has nothing to do with Andromeda. Not at all. Andromeda's development cycle to be more precise, Ste100. I hear you. Also, Hudson left in the middle of this so I'm not sure how to accept a "quitter" coming back. That's my personal, salt-filled opinion.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 19, 2017 8:32:06 GMT
Holy Hopeful Gullibles. The direct line to why the ME franchise is in its current state can be directly traced to Casey and Mac and their decision to end the trilogy the way they did. Massive negative fan reaction caused the pseudo-mea culpa EC. The parent company stock (EA) tanked by a third following all this. The "team" with Casey and Mac, then came up with the bright idea to abandon the MW, since they burned it down with the endings. Amidst the still continuing controversy, Casey "left" for Microsoft. In the ensuing void, Biower kept the Andromeda idea, and after 2 years or so of dithering about on it, put Mac in charge, and we all know how that turned out. Again, high expectations corporate-wise met with tepid at best reviews and financial performance. Trace it all back to the endings decision. High expectations all around, unmet. I've never heard or seen anything that references a magnificent ending to an otherwise great trilogy. Anyone think a good line on a resume is "Director, Mass Effect 3 endings", or "Lead Writer, Mass Effect 3 endings"? Think game developers talk amongst themselves about how good the Mass Effect Triology ended, or for that matter, how good the whole Andromeda idea turned out? And now, lots of people seem excited the person chiefly responsible for all this is back. I wish him and Biower well, but if the past is any predictor of the future, buckle up, and prepare for hopes and expectations to be built high, then cruelly dashed. You're making an assumption that he hasn't learned anything from the last three years. To be honest, so am I. We'll see.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 19, 2017 8:41:56 GMT
Holy Hopeful Gullibles. The direct line to why the ME franchise is in its current state can be directly traced to Casey and Mac and their decision to end the trilogy the way they did. Massive negative fan reaction caused the pseudo-mea culpa EC. The parent company stock (EA) tanked by a third following all this. The "team" with Casey and Mac, then came up with the bright idea to abandon the MW, since they burned it down with the endings. Amidst the still continuing controversy, Casey "left" for Microsoft. In the ensuing void, Biower kept the Andromeda idea, and after 2 years or so of dithering about on it, put Mac in charge, and we all know how that turned out. Again, high expectations corporate-wise met with tepid at best reviews and financial performance. Trace it all back to the endings decision. High expectations all around, unmet. I've never heard or seen anything that references a magnificent ending to an otherwise great trilogy. Anyone think a good line on a resume is "Director, Mass Effect 3 endings", or "Lead Writer, Mass Effect 3 endings"? Think game developers talk amongst themselves about how good the Mass Effect Triology ended, or for that matter, how good the whole Andromeda idea turned out? And now, lots of people seem excited the person chiefly responsible for all this is back. I wish him and Biower well, but if the past is any predictor of the future, buckle up, and prepare for hopes and expectations to be built high, then cruelly dashed. You're making an assumption that he hasn't learned anything from the last three years. To be honest, so am I. We'll see. Trust but verify. He probably learned 'something' from the ME 3 ending but until we see the fruits of that labor in future BioWare products...maybe DA 4 since we don't know how far along ind evelopment it is, but unlikely Anthem since BioWare seems to have a handle on it, but until we see what BioWare does under Casey's leadership it will be hard to trust.
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Jul 19, 2017 10:33:27 GMT
Wrong section, it has nothing to do with ME, thus nothing to be excited about. He joined Edmonton, not Montréal, and didn't say anything about ME, there's even a pic of Anthem lol. Of course after working on Anthem he will want to cash in on that upcoming 10 years of microtransactions money, can't let EA/BW have all of it.
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Post by Estaq99 on Jul 19, 2017 10:50:46 GMT
Admittedly I never really followed stories around ME3 at the time, but is it more than a maybe? A lot of gamers were very suspicious of the very high review scores of ME3. Some of them gave it a 10. "A lot of gamers...." "...Very suspicious..." You sound like the little village gossiper. If that was anything more than a rumor, then why not extrapolating the same kind of logic to those reviews with a very high score to MEA? Were those reviews paid by EA as well? Because if we are to believe that and take them out of the equation of the final resulting score on Metacritic for MEA, then we will end up with a final score of about 6/10 or lower. But I'm sure you wouldn't like that. Would you? Of course not, because your conspiracy theory can only be applied to the OT but never to MEA. Otherwise it would be just the work of haters trying to take down MEA.
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Post by ssanyesz on Jul 19, 2017 11:11:05 GMT
I suppose I'm positive-mixed about this news. Casey wasn't perfect, but he gave more of a Getting It Done impression of project management. In neither DAI and MEA did I feel they were truly 'done'. (And this is even with ME3's ending and ME3 DLC involvements.) True but previous ME and DA games were smaller and shorter, but more compact and refined. Maybe later games had more quantity over quality. Thats why i like those older games more. I hope they return to their old formula. I don't see myself replaying DAI and MEA a third time, i'm planning second playthroughs, but can't bring myself to do it (just yet). Also i'm hoping Casey will bring a new dialog system for MEA DLC because what we have now is... not very good to put it politely. Or make a true expansion where some time passes (and characters mature), contains the quarians (and other races), some other unsolved mysteries and replaces the dialog system with more extreme options added. New quests solveable in more than 1 ways with different outcomes. Some new base managment. There are detailed planets already waiting to be filled with content. MEA has so much potential still.
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Post by Addictress on Jul 19, 2017 11:22:25 GMT
LET'S GO CASEY! RESTORE WHAT WAS ONCE LOST! LIKE SOLAS, RESTORING ARLATHAN TO GREATNESS! HERE WE GOOOO Is he going to have to destroy our world to save his? That was ME3
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Post by Gileadan on Jul 19, 2017 11:27:14 GMT
This thread is probably in the wrong section. Edmonton will be focusing on Anthem, which is also Casey Hudson's baby and also the big card BioWare is betting on, and now Hudson can make sure that Anthem won't share ME's fate.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 19, 2017 11:30:30 GMT
Wrong section, it has nothing to do with ME, thus nothing to be excited about. He joined Edmonton, not Montréal, and didn't say anything about ME, there's even a pic of Anthem lol. Of course after working on Anthem he will want to cash in on that upcoming 10 years of microtransactions money, can't let EA/BW have all of it. he oversees everything Montreal included as GM. He's basically Captain of the Ship Bioware now whereas befoer he left he was more a Lieutenant Commander only responsible for one thing in that case ME now he's responsible for everything Bioware does.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 11:49:40 GMT
Heh, I am sure that Aaryn OUT and Casey IN has nothing to do with Andromeda. Not at all. Andromeda's development cycle to be more precise, Ste100. I hear you. Also, Hudson left in the middle of this so I'm not sure how to accept a "quitter" coming back. That's my personal, salt-filled opinion. Wow. So Casey didn't have a right to make his own life choices? He was beholden to a company like a fucking indentured servant or some kind of slave? He had no rights as a human being to leave BW and do something else? Your comment is wrong on so many levels and it's completely unfair. Not looking to argue. We agree on most everything, but this comment just really strikes me as some serious bullshit thinking because it is in no way Casey's fault that things fell to shit when he left. Frankly that would fall on the one leaving now which I 100% believe is why he is leaving. He should have been on top of it. And frankly, I think it speaks volumes about who was actually always on top of these things and why that someone is coming back. Also might be the real reason why he left in the first place and why so many followed him. One can only guess but given what we have heard about MEA's development cycle, that thing was a clusterfuck of the highest proportions if true. My guess is people happily talked to Jason because they wanted that to be the news so that it would get fixed. AND if Casey's leaving causes bioware to fall apart on MEA and Anthem then BW has bigger problems than Casey's leaving and my guess is what we are seeing here is exactly why casey left. That company should have been able to manage 100% without casey. To even suggest or imply let alone outright call him a quitter is bullshit. He was not beholden to any of these games. Nor should he be held accountable for the clusterfuck that happened when he left. A well run company would have found people to handle things and things would have gone smoothly anyway. Clearly BW has not been a well run company for a while. But be certain of one thing - deciding to leave a job where he was for almost 20 years doesn't make him a quitter. It makes him an independent human being who is not an indentured slave to some silly job and who also has free will to decide what he wants to do and when he wants to do it. Welcome to free societies.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 12:04:32 GMT
I suppose I'm positive-mixed about this news. Casey wasn't perfect, but he gave more of a Getting It Done impression of project management. In neither DAI and MEA did I feel they were truly 'done'. (And this is even with ME3's ending and ME3 DLC involvements.) True but previous ME and DA games were smaller and shorter, but more compact and refined. Maybe later games had more quantity over quality. Thats why i like those older games more. I hope they return to their old formula. I don't see myself replaying DAI and MEA a third time, i'm planning second playthroughs, but can't bring myself to do it (just yet). Also i'm hoping Casey will bring a new dialog system for MEA DLC because what we have now is... not very good to put it politely. Or make a true expansion where some time passes (and characters mature), contains the quarians (and other races), some other unsolved mysteries and replaces the dialog system with more extreme options added. New quests solveable in more than 1 ways with different outcomes. Some new base managment. There are detailed planets already waiting to be filled with content. MEA has so much potential still. My guess is he will go back to basics for MEA2 but keep elements that were overall liked. We'll probably see open worlds still but perhaps with less questing that is necessary. That will probably be minimized. We might end up getting some aspects of Paragon/Renegade but done differently. We probably will see a transition to a darker tone but perhaps not as dark as MET or ME3 in particular. And Ryder will likely mature quite a bit toward something like Shepard while keeping some of the decidedly Ryder traits (humor, sarcasm at times, witt). Most notably I think the writing will improve vastly and given that Drew is back at BW, I would be shocked if he was not moved over to work on MEA2 at some point, or frankly, other DLC for MEA if it is planned or will be planned which I feel like that very well could happen now. When you think about it, right on the cusp of when DLC is or would be going to be released is when Casey comes back. And one thing we know is that quality DLC can make a mediocre game much better. I wouldn't be surprised if we now get some quality DLC to improve MEA overall. In fact, I'm fairly sure we will get two if not three.
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Post by foxhole on Jul 19, 2017 12:06:28 GMT
Wrong section, it has nothing to do with ME, thus nothing to be excited about. He joined Edmonton, not Montréal, and didn't say anything about ME, there's even a pic of Anthem lol. Of course after working on Anthem he will want to cash in on that upcoming 10 years of microtransactions money, can't let EA/BW have all of it. He joined not just Edmonton. He is GM of Bioware as a whole. It's big news to all Bioware games, including Mass Effect series.
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