Destiny 2 Beta has shown me just how badly Bioware failed with MEAMP

I have 3 years, 3,000+ hours on Destiny (1,000 hours on each character). Destiny at launch was an empty shell of a game, and basically overmarketed a limited product.

It took paid DLC and YEARS of Bungie ignoring fans to finally learn they needed to improve certain parts of the game. By the end of the 3 years, Destiny is/was a solid product but it took a lot of paid DLC to get to that point.

Destiny 2 is already running into issues with fans, not listening to what we want. They're making some nice improvements, and also making some stupid changes.

That being said, it's a different game than MEA, with some similarities but A LOT of differences. Comparing them against each other is not fair to either game. In with D2 only a beta, it's only a small part of what could be a better game or bigger problems.

If I only played pre-DLC Destiny 1, what do you think I would make of D2? My main complaints were: not enough variety in things to do at end game (same strikes and missions over and over), story sucked ass, shitty loot rolling and itemization, and probably some other things I can't remember.

Like, wasn't that one of the chief stories of how suprisingly sub-par the D1 launch was? People liked the beta and thought the full game would be *more*. Nope, it's basically exactly what's in the beta.

If I only played pre-DLC Destiny 1, what do you think I would make of D2? My main complaints were: not enough variety in things to do at end game (same strikes and missions over and over), story sucked ass, shitty loot rolling and itemization, and probably some other things I can't remember.

There are a few things to bare in mind though... Firstly, the budget and the size of the team will be outrageous by comparison. Secondly, it's a multiplayer focused game so would you expect anything less. Thirdly, it's their second game building on the same engine, systems and assets so it's not a fair comparison at all.

I can tell you one thing for nothing the story campaign will suck donkey balls because the setting, premise and general world-building is just the worst and that's not an acceptable tradeoff for me. I think I'd rather go to the dentist than endure more of the traveller, the darkness, the awoken and other such oh so memorable shite. Enjoy.

I don't think I posted my Brief History of Mass Effect Andromeda here....got 192 upvotes and for me that might as well be a million as all my posts on reddit get down voted...they love me there more than y'all love me here

Brief History of MEA:

[1] Release game as a PAID alpha. Nothing works. Takes 3 clips to kill redbars on bronze or 3 biotic combos. And they worked on the game for years! We blue screen once per five games (4 times in one game for me!). Blue screening is so bad people fear using consumables.

[2] Patch 1.06 comes along and we now all get our PAID Beta. We are happy, the powers start working, combos feel much better, many weapons feel okay and we get our positive vibes as it feels much better and like a new game. We are happy we stuck with it.

Notable [2] footnotes: [2b] Debs who can't play their own game nerf the mattock's damage because they fear it will become too OP with the ROF adjustments -- JUST LOL LOL.. [2c] Debs then shortly later Buff the mattock and many other weapons because one of them finally played the game and realized they sucked. [2d] Debs: "Woah, you got the sweeper, thats like one of the best guns in the game." Its tier 2 or 3 trash.

[3] Patch 1.07 and 1.08 come, things get fixed and they turn the beta into a real paid game with a few quirks to still workout--one of which is the frame-rate issue they introduced with 1.08 -- sound cutting out -- off host headshot -- blue screening ,etc. But anyways, melee works. Gladiator is stupid god mode, duelist is now fun and so on and so on...

[3b] One of the debs is gold running aqua and asks if the shadow is a good gun....LOL -- SPOILER ALERT: it gets nerfed in 1.09. Someone (the girl) also asks if elemental ammo primes during the live stream.
[3c] The debs add S variants of weapons which dilutes the rare pool for most of its casual gamers and these S variants offer nothing new and are inferior to already extant gold guns. Some of us suspect they did this just to fix their broken challenge system (some weapons were not working) and decided to make $$$ at the same time.

[4] Patch 1.09 comes which brings platinum which is a great attempt (its poorly balanced so half the characters--including most URs are not viable). Kishock is really really good and the Batarian has nothing really new (snap freeze vs cryo and concussive and flak--meh) but I'll take it. Some guns get buffed and now special variants of guns do different things. If it stopped here all would be good in the world.

[4B] We now get 3 variants of each weapon that have to be ranked to X... but also each character now goes to XX when the character system was pretty much universally hated to begin with. So you now have to get 40 soneds, 40 valiants, etc. THE CARD POOL IS DILUTED BY THE ADDITION OF 2000 NEW CARDS. They added roughly 2% more content and 2000 NEW CARDS (500+ of which are URS). Not to mention hundreds of mods and 15 pieces of new equipment all locked and hidden behind MFs that will take well over half a year to acquire....
Not only that but the veteran bonuses are SUPER SUPER LAZY. The same exact bonus for each character? Some should get moe health. The kineticist does not need more melee damage for platinum. She needs more health and DR in ascension mode. Just a lazy lazy lazy cash grab.

WAY TO FUCK UP ALL YOUR PROGRESS AND ANY PROMISE THIS GAME HAD. Had you actually released new content in those 500 URs I would have happily kept grinding and probably dropped even more real money on the game. But I am not grinding or paying for 40 different versions of the hurricane or black widow--or any other gun.
You really ruined the last bit of hope I had for the game and this looks like a poorly designed cash grab. Once people realize how dilute the pool is, will they really spend money? If they do, god bless you on your great, profitable business strategy. I for one, feel robbed and greatly disappointed.

[5] And somewhere in there penguinfetish got sync killed on bronze during a live stream by a fiend. Not sure where that goes but certainly a memorable footnote in MEA's history. Not to mention the debs wiping on bronze and just hiding behind barricades during live streams like PUG scrubs.

RIP Game. Best wishes to all the suckers/blind fanboys who buy Anthem or future games from this studio. #neveragain

I think 1.09 was the straw that finally broke the camel's back. Platinum was a nice change for two weeks but now its kind of meh. Soloed it. Conquered it. Played about 90 minutes a day the last three days...did the daily challenges and ran about two platinum games. Getting harder and harder to log in. The party chat is the only thing that really brings me back now. The game is dying now more than ever.

Most characters are just OP on gold but underperform on platinum with vet bonuses. They have no role in the game and they zapped its variety...

If there is ever another ME I won't buy it on launch. I'll wait a month until it actually works right (and check reviews) and its half price.

I kinda liked AC multiplayer, but without PvE it was not interesting for me and my friends. These games could have had good coop PvE multi (especially with the naval combat in AC III and IV)