Destiny 2 Beta has shown me just how badly Bioware failed with MEAMP

You said a beta for non-pre orders comes out Friday? I'l try it but I played D1 on launch and didn't much care for it. Not at all optimistic about it and for PvE its Cod all day or Battlefield.

You liked B2 more than ME3???

And maybe that is why I didn't like Destiny 1 then...

meamp beta testing was bad enough to change me completely as a gamer.

most importantly, i learned not to trust final copy to be a well tested & completed work.

it was unlike anything else i ever played past 30 years.

i am not even sure if destiny deserves the insult of being compared to initial work of meamp.

It's seriously one of the most insulting releases from a AAA studio and IP that I think I've ever seen

It's on par with DA:I. Honestly no idea how that got GOTY, but I think that made EA overconfident. They seem to regard releasing broken, steaming turds to be the new "industry standard". Why bother finishing a game when you can release half of it and if it makes money, then fix it to something approaching a finished product?

A bit overboard. Lucky you didn't buy No Man's Sky. Now that was perspective (dammit).

But yeah I get where you're coming from. I've only played three matches this week. After 1500 hours of ME3 I'm losing my interest in this game after a mere 150.

I'm taking a great trip down memory lane with Nethack right now but maybe I'll give Destiny 2 a try next month.

All those effing fetch quests.

And my fifth grader still calls BS on those Skyhold 'repairs' and upgrades.

I don't think I posted my Brief History of Mass Effect Andromeda here....got 192 upvotes and for me that might as well be a million as all my posts on reddit get down voted...they love me there more than y'all love me here

Brief History of MEA:

[1] Release game as a PAID alpha. Nothing works. Takes 3 clips to kill redbars on bronze or 3 biotic combos. And they worked on the game for years! We blue screen once per five games (4 times in one game for me!). Blue screening is so bad people fear using consumables.

[2] Patch 1.06 comes along and we now all get our PAID Beta. We are happy, the powers start working, combos feel much better, many weapons feel okay and we get our positive vibes as it feels much better and like a new game. We are happy we stuck with it.

Notable [2] footnotes: [2b] Debs who can't play their own game nerf the mattock's damage because they fear it will become too OP with the ROF adjustments -- JUST LOL LOL.. [2c] Debs then shortly later Buff the mattock and many other weapons because one of them finally played the game and realized they sucked. [2d] Debs: "Woah, you got the sweeper, thats like one of the best guns in the game." Its tier 2 or 3 trash.

[3] Patch 1.07 and 1.08 come, things get fixed and they turn the beta into a real paid game with a few quirks to still workout--one of which is the frame-rate issue they introduced with 1.08 -- sound cutting out -- off host headshot -- blue screening ,etc. But anyways, melee works. Gladiator is stupid god mode, duelist is now fun and so on and so on...

[3b] One of the debs is gold running aqua and asks if the shadow is a good gun....LOL -- SPOILER ALERT: it gets nerfed in 1.09. Someone (the girl) also asks if elemental ammo primes during the live stream.
[3c] The debs add S variants of weapons which dilutes the rare pool for most of its casual gamers and these S variants offer nothing new and are inferior to already extant gold guns. Some of us suspect they did this just to fix their broken challenge system (some weapons were not working) and decided to make $$$ at the same time.

[4] Patch 1.09 comes which brings platinum which is a great attempt (its poorly balanced so half the characters--including most URs are not viable). Kishock is really really good and the Batarian has nothing really new (snap freeze vs cryo and concussive and flak--meh) but I'll take it. Some guns get buffed and now special variants of guns do different things. If it stopped here all would be good in the world.

[4B] We now get 3 variants of each weapon that have to be ranked to X... but also each character now goes to XX when the character system was pretty much universally hated to begin with. So you now have to get 40 soneds, 40 valiants, etc. THE CARD POOL IS DILUTED BY THE ADDITION OF 2000 NEW CARDS. They added roughly 2% more content and 2000 NEW CARDS (500+ of which are URS). Not to mention hundreds of mods and 15 pieces of new equipment all locked and hidden behind MFs that will take well over half a year to acquire....
Not only that but the veteran bonuses are SUPER SUPER LAZY. The same exact bonus for each character? Some should get moe health. The kineticist does not need more melee damage for platinum. She needs more health and DR in ascension mode. Just a lazy lazy lazy cash grab.

WAY TO FUCK UP ALL YOUR PROGRESS AND ANY PROMISE THIS GAME HAD. Had you actually released new content in those 500 URs I would have happily kept grinding and probably dropped even more real money on the game. But I am not grinding or paying for 40 different versions of the hurricane or black widow--or any other gun.
You really ruined the last bit of hope I had for the game and this looks like a poorly designed cash grab. Once people realize how dilute the pool is, will they really spend money? If they do, god bless you on your great, profitable business strategy. I for one, feel robbed and greatly disappointed.

[5] And somewhere in there penguinfetish got sync killed on bronze during a live stream by a fiend. Not sure where that goes but certainly a memorable footnote in MEA's history. Not to mention the debs wiping on bronze and just hiding behind barricades during live streams like PUG scrubs.

RIP Game. Best wishes to all the suckers/blind fanboys who buy Anthem or future games from this studio. #neveragain

I've been noticing how your tune has changed since last you were on these forums. Young buck and full of come, cheering how awesome MEA is. Now you act more like a beat down drug addict who's been abused too much by his girlfriend.

Glad you finally see it my way.

I think 1.09 was the straw that finally broke the camel's back. Platinum was a nice change for two weeks but now its kind of meh. Soloed it. Conquered it. Played about 90 minutes a day the last three days...did the daily challenges and ran about two platinum games. Getting harder and harder to log in. The party chat is the only thing that really brings me back now. The game is dying now more than ever.

Most characters are just OP on gold but underperform on platinum with vet bonuses. They have no role in the game and they zapped its variety...

If there is ever another ME I won't buy it on launch. I'll wait a month until it actually works right (and check reviews) and its half price.

Yeah, the down fall of For Honor is unfortunate, especially because I feel like Ubi should at least get a pat on the back for doing something original after pumping out so many Assassin's Creed games (which I love unconditionally for some reason).  And come to think of it, it doesn't even need someone with fighting game experience, just someone with competitive experience to know there should have been a separate mode where people could fight with out ledge kills (or at least fight on symmetric maps).

Closer to the original topic, did any one ever play the Assassin's Creed multiplayer?  That was more or less added as after though as was extremely fun (although I did get tired of it after the 3rd iteration of MP in ACIII (I didn't even touch MP in ACIV).  Like For Honor, and to some extent ME3:MP and MEA:MP, AC:MP offered an experience that no other game could:  Online Hide and Seek.

Edit:  I guess my "take home message" is that games or parts of game born from pet projects driven by passion are often a pleasant surprise.  MEA:MP was an obligatory project driven by monetary constraints and goals and is becoming increasingly disappointing.  I don't want to throw the towel in yet (although I certainly felt that way after 1.09 launched), but I'm not blaming those who already have.