Parallels between Dead Space 3 and Mass Effect Andromeda

No they're haters because there is a line between love and hate and while it can get blurry at time, and people can cross it sometimes without even knowing or realizing it. Never the less still exists people like the OP have crossed it.
  
Now I don't really care about popular opinion anymore, when you people like the OP constantly posting threads like this and has actually said that he is never completed the game, and others (maybe including the OP) have publicly stated they're celebrating the possible demise of a franchise that they claim to love and then the OP constantly bashes people who love and insults them for enjoying the game by calling them "idiots, tasteless, blind," and whatever else he has called me and many of the people I consider my friends.

Yes, people who love ME:A have had their criticisms with it, including me, but we don't go posting crap like "ME fans want hentai porn dating game because their have no taste" which is something that the OP posted once (or close to it) as a "joke" and then he gets bent out of shape when someone who loves the game made some bad joke about autism to get them banned (which he did) and then said that all of us who loved the game are anti-autism because we did throw that poster under the bus. Now in my case I wasn't around at that time because I was busy trying to buy food and then I was having a lot of fun playing ME:A when that little drama went down but I did read the posts in question. Now only speaking for MYSELF and no one else and as someone who been around more mentality challenged people then I can count and I have strangers think that I might be autistic. I did not think the autism joke was nowhere near as offensive as the OP's hentai joke months ago, if it even was a joke. Because whatever hentai means in Japan in most circles that I run in hentai is another word for a pedophile and/or child porn. So he has basically gets away with calling ME:A fans a bunch of pedophiles and/or child porn fans. Something I hate with burning a passion is child porn and pedophiles and to my knowledge he was NEVER banned a few days and/or has never apologized for that sick and evil comment he made. If he has apologized for his hentai comment I never saw it and if he did post an apology before today July 27th, 2017 please post a link or send me a PM with a link to said post (if it exists) then I will re-edit this post to correct my mistake. Any apologizes he makes today or afterwards because I called him out on it don't count because they would be meaningless. But regardless of that, the poster who made the autism joke who BTW did apologize for it and even admitted that it was in poor taste, that person got banned.   

The OP is not a fan he is hater. This shown by both his words and his actions. Now you can dress it up however you want but that is what people like OP, majestic jazz, and dutch, have all has the line from fan to hater, and you can spare me this "your biggest haters are your biggest fans out there" line because it's 100% bullshit. I don't like Call of Duty games and have no love for them and from the reviews, opinion pieces, comments I've watched and/or read  on them I would say that I hate them and will mostly never buy any of them on any platform. Hell I wouldn't even by any version of an Xbox, a PlayStation, or a PC that any of of COD games came with them ready to play. I also don't go to COD fan sites and troll the people who enjoy them, because I have respect for people enjoying something that I hate, and see no reason to try and spoil their fun, this is something that the OP clearly doesn't do and he doesn't show any respect for people who enjoy ME:A and or he never did.

The OP starts these kinds of threads then he cherry picks the data to suit his opinion which believes are facts, regardless of the huge leaps of speculation and logic one would have to make to arrive at his so called "facts". And if the facts don't add up to suit his opinion then facts be damned. He has constantly and he clearly ignores facts that line up with his opinions. He offers data with little in proper context. When he is asked why doesn't do something more productive or positive with his time instead of arguing with BioWare fans on a BioWare FAN SITE over a game he hates, he dodges the question with vague answers like "I want to prove that more people here hate ME:A here than love it" or that "he love the series and wants to make it great again" or "it's fun to troll the fans", and so on.  He is constantly promoting an article from a gaming news site with a questionable reputation to say the least, that is filled with anonymous sources that has NOT been verified or even picked up by other gaming sites with maybe with slightly more better reputations. Then he gets mad and then insults people who bring that up and then plays the victim and says that all of us ME:A fans are bullies.

His threads and posts create a lot of toxicity here and has caused a LOT of bad blood between a lot of people here, and makes this place at times feel even worse than BSN Prime was at it's worst. Other have told him this and again he either clearly ignores it, doesn't care, is too stupid to understand it, or some combination. He is constantly plays the victim when his views are challenged even in the most polite way possible then tries to get people, like me and others, banned because we "insulted him" or "we made fun of him" or "we threaten him" in his threads like this one or we told others why we don't like him. He makes countless polls here that show the exact opposite of his opinions and gets mad because they show that people here don't agree with opinions. That is why I and many others will call the OP and other like him trolls and/or haters because of how he acts which either like: a hateful troll or as a super delicate special little snowflake looking for a safe space on the internet, or whatever helps his cause.

Now does any of that sound like the actions of a fan to any kind of media? It sure as hell doesn't sound like a fan to me those are the actions of hateful troll, and I'm not alone in that assessment of the OP.

For those that find this post TL; DR I am sorry about that, but this has been building up in me for a long time I need to get it out of system but here are my final thoughts on the OP of this thread.

In my honest opinion the Original Poster who started this thread is NOT a fan of the Mass Effect series anymore, he just hates it and he claims to love it so he can play the victim when people call his bullshit for what it is bullshit and all of his threads, polls, and posts do is cause nothing but a lot more bad blood between people here and that leads to nothing but trouble in the long run for this community.

Thank you for the info,the toxic nature of the web makes any research a chore these day's,it's more hassle than it's worth.......respect and again thank you.

I think the forum tends to view many issue's from a consumer point of view (not a criticism),hence the need to reference meta scores/reviews/sales figures etc and for many people the success of a game automatically means a constant stream of sequels.......because gaming is a business,right,people need to make money etc......but people tend to forget the creative perspective of gaming and in the case of stories,they naturally have a beginning and an end.

I totally agree with your perspective in regards to any future Andromeda.The main purpose of the latest game was to establish a foothold in Andromeda and I think the game succeeded in establishing a good foundation to build future content.A logical step forward would be a leap into the future,creating an opportunity to introduce pretty much any thing......new cities,aliens,planets etc

A little off topic but I think the real Mass Effect killer is going to be Anthem,I don't think there's enough room for both Anthem and Mass Effect to co exist,they seem to similar,especially in the visual department???......but we'll see.   

Communication is a two-way process.
No-one can climb into your head to determine how you actual think and feel, so folk make judgments based on your communications.
To that extent: perception is reality - if you are concerned that others don't understand your message, the issue might be your message, not their understanding.

You're welcome to make your comments (and you do) but as this forum is ostensibly one for people who enjoy BioWare IP, 
I can understand how posts that continually explain, 'I don't like it', 'I don't like it'... can become grating after a while.

You may share those views and usually you do so civilly, so it's my job to see that you can continue (and that others can civilly disagree).
But please don't be upset or surprised if you get some occasional blowback.

We do know you don't like the latest instalment. 

So posts like this are a-ok then?

"Then the OP constantly bashes people who love and insults them for enjoying the game by calling them "idiots, tasteless, blind," and whatever else he has called me and many of the people I consider my friends."
- A blatant lie by a frustrated poster that was banned for making personal attacks at me, not vice versa.

"Gets bent out of shape when someone who loves the game made some bad joke about autism to get them banned (which he did) and then said that all of us who loved the game are anti-autism because we did throw that poster under the bus."
- Never used those words, but damn straight I'll call out anyone making fun of autism, as well as anyone that stands around and does nothing, and worse, "likes" posts of that nature.

"I did not think the autism joke was nowhere near as offensive as the OP's hentai joke months ago, if it even was a joke."
- That "joke" was posted in a thread about different genres Mass Effect would succeed in. I still think it would succeed in that genre. A tongue in cheek joke vs an autism rant, is a sad comparison. Speaks a lot about this poster's values.

"Because whatever hentai means in Japan in most circles that I run in hentai is another word for a pedophile and/or child porn. So he has basically gets away with calling ME:A fans a bunch of pedophiles and/or child porn fans."
- This is now just horrible slander that is disgusting. Perhaps this poster hasn't checked Steam lately. Look up what the top selling new games are on a consistent basis. Hentai and "visual novels."

"Then he gets mad and then insults people who bring that up and then plays the victim and says that all of us ME:A fans are bullies."
- I don't insult people - and I'm clearly not the bully.

"That is why I and many others will call the OP and other like him trolls and/or haters because of how he acts which either like: a hateful troll or as a super delicate special little snowflake looking for a safe space on the internet, or whatever helps his cause."
- Stay out of my threads if you can't fucking handle it like an adult.

"In my honest opinion the Original Poster who started this thread is NOT a fan of the Mass Effect series anymore, he just hates it and he claims to love it so he can play the victim when people call his bullshit for what it is bullshit and all of his threads, polls, and posts do is cause nothing but a lot more bad blood between people here and that leads to nothing but trouble in the long run for this community."
- Sad. Disgusting attitude.

"You may share those views and usually you do so civilly, so it's my job to see that you can continue (and that others can civilly disagree).
But please don't be upset or surprised if you get some occasional blowback."
- This only enables the angry mob. Blowback is fine, but I was unaware personal attacks and slander were okay now. I'm okay with that. I can easily turn it up a notch for frothing-at-the-mouth posters like Cyberstrike, Quarantine, Fluffy, Poaf, and anyone else who need to learn how to act like adults, and not like petty children.

How come you don't just block people? Seems better than continuing the  "I have to fight back" mentality.

I've been disrespected far more than anything I've dished out. Just look at the responses in this thread.

Respect seems to imply "agree with us or leave" - which is unfortunate.

People like Dutch who are trolls don't get the amount of hatred suikoden and others like him get. Quit acting like you and the others aren't just being irrationally spiteful

I played The Witcher 2 on Xbox 360 and hated it and I said that I didn't like the UI, controls, characters, world, and gameplay, on a few boards but I also don't go to Witcher fan sites just to piss fans off on a game that I didn't like (hell The Witcher 2 wasn't even the worst video game I ever played, WCW Backstage Assault still has that honor) and it why should show up try to make something that someone else loves into something that they hate? I don't like the game so I should share my misery with others who did enjoy it? For what? To get more people not to like it and/or try to put it's developer out of business?

As much as I don't The Witcher 2, doesn't mean I have to make other people who do like or love and try and make them hate it.This is what people like suikoden are doing they are trying to turn my love and enjoyment of ME:A into hatred and venom, now as too why I can only guess.
I've heard of interesting theory that they're more or less jealous because I got something out of it that they couldn't. Misery lover company I guess. It's kind of like how the biggest homophobes most of time turn out to be gay and are so deep in the closet that they have internalized all the hatred and redirected it at other gay people because they did come out and are enjoying their lives and they can't.

Human perfection is a lie and a waste of so much creative talent.
 
No, but it becomes a problem when people like suikoden just do nothing bash the game and it's supporters over the head because he's got apparently got to nothing else to do with life, hell even some people who hate the damn game are getting tied of his antics. Also he been given a free pass to do this song and dance over and over and over. The autism joke was bad, but as someone who is disabled and I have people who might be autistic, Personally I don't consider the words "autism" and "autistic" to be an insult or even insulting, now if the poster who made the joke had used the word "retard" then not only would I thrown that person under the bus I would gladly driven the bus over him several times. Also he lumps me in that little drama that he created, because I wasn't on the forum at the time and didn't even know about it and then expects me to form an opinion on his version of events which was sketchy to me at best. Some people suikoden do want all the info before we wade into the middle of damn flame war. 

If I said 1/1000th of the crap he said I would have be banned a dozen times over, but yet in this very thread he's given a basically a free pass to lie and insult me. He just plays the victim and he then personally insults me again and again and again, (yes suikoden I read your post and no I'm not going to take the bait) and now tries to get people not like my post. A post that took me a long time to write because I gave my brutal and 100% honest opinion of him, his views, and how I feel about him all based on the facts that I have at hand. I've read his reply and I'm standing by everything I said 100%. I'm beginning to think that he doesn't understand what the "insults" mean and now he is trying to get people is say that I have to respect his opinions.

I got 2 words to that:

 HELL NO!



Is that clear enough for you?
After reading his reply to my post where he shows me no respect, insults me personally, and fucking lies about me, any and all my respect for him has went out out the fucking window. I have absolutely no respect for him.
Zero.
None.
Zilch.
Nada. 

I will no longer show any respect for him, his opinions, or views. After he has personally insulted and lied about me and basically got permission from SofaJockey to do it.
Since he clearly no respect for me I will NEVER show him any respect anymore.

Now as much as I personally don't like dutch, I can at least respect him, because at least he's earned my respect. As for suikoden, he has personally insulted me several times in not only in this very thread in the past few months, has shown that he has no respect for me, my friends, my opinions, so I have no respect for him.  

These keyboard wars are intense, huh?

First off, this level of pettiness is hilarious!  Suko, you are usually a very calm, intelligent person.  Easy to disagree with, sure, but you normally try to make your points with data and facts (even if that data is sometimes cherry-picked and interpreted very loosely from the source material).  However, your recent posts have been less facts and more crying out because you get "attacked", which is assuredly sometimes true, however sometimes you do take people arguing against you as a personal attack as well.  I'm with Sofa on this one, though, you do need to expect a certain amount of blowback on a BIOWARE FAN FORUM when you continually trash a BIOWARE game.  I don't go to a Raiders game and make fun of the Raiders, if you know what I'm saying.  

At any rate, most of your recent posts in this thread, and most of the posts from other posters in this thread, have had nothing to do with the OP, and have only been long diatribes about how your postings are bad or you posting how other posters are bad.  

At which point I'm going to please request that SofaJockey or DragonRacer or one of the other mods please shut this thread down, as I think they might agree we have veered  horribly off course and that all that's going on currently is mudslinging that should either be conducted in PM's or in an Official Bioware Social Network Gladatorial Arena of DOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!  

Which part of...

"Yes, people who love ME:A have had their criticisms with it, including me, but when don't go posting crap like "ME fans want hentai porn dating game because their have no taste" which is something that the OP posted once as a "joke" and then he gets bent out of shape when someone who loves the game made some bad joke about autism to get as someone who been around more mentality challenged people then I can count and I have strangers think that I might be autistic the autism joke was not as offensive as his hentai joke if it even was a joke. Because whatever hentai means in Japan in circles that I run hentai is another word for a pedophile and/or child porn. So he has basically gets away with calling ME:A fans a pedophiles and/or child porn fans."

...do you not interpret as an attack?  This guy is actually insinuating that I'm calling fellow posters, pedophiles. That's sick.  He should be fucking banned for slander like that, instead - he's getting likes.  Ridiculous.  Disgusting.

Perhaps you run in the same circles as maximusareal, which is odd because you've always struck me as one of the more rational defenders of the game.  The only reason he's so bent out of shape is because he WAS banned for his comments towards me.