Parallels between Dead Space 3 and Mass Effect Andromeda

So, the Hater thesupremedarkone majesticjazz and suikoden must deleted their accounts, PLEASE !!!!!

Suikoden and I being banned is like MEA getting SP DLC.....

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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 21, 2017 4:31:15 GMT

So, the Hater thesupremedarkone majesticjazz and suikoden must deleted their accounts, PLEASE !!!!!

Suikoden and I being banned is like MEA getting SP DLC.....

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Post by N7 on Jul 21, 2017 4:31:59 GMT

So, the Hater thesupremedarkone majesticjazz and suikoden must deleted their accounts, PLEASE !!!!!

Suikoden and I being banned is like MEA getting SP DLC.....

Dream on majesticjazz, you Liar and Hater!

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Parallels between Dead Space 3 and Mass Effect Andromeda Jul 21, 2017 4:39:02 GMT maximusarael020 likes this

Post by jediguardian on Jul 21, 2017 4:39:02 GMT

I really admire how OP work hard to prove that Mass Effect Andromeda is failed.

But As long as EA/Bioware don't announce that no more MEA (or ME in general), then your evidence mean nothing to me.

I don't know that MEA sell number reach EA expectation or not But I am sure they already gain some profit from MEA.
From your chart PS4 sell 1M so If I assume that PC and XB sell at least 1M too that mean MEA already reach 3M, and if I only use half price to calculate ... 20$ x 3M = 60M$ , If MEA cost 40M$ to make then right now they have profit at least 20M$

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Post by suikoden on Jul 21, 2017 4:39:53 GMT

Jul 21, 2017 4:28:05 GMT smilesja said:

Jul 21, 2017 4:20:46 GMT suikoden said:

Hopefully to contemplate about his attitude on that subject.

He apologized for his actions.

Nope he 100% did not.

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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 21, 2017 4:47:22 GMT

Jul 21, 2017 2:43:11 GMT suikoden said:

Jul 21, 2017 2:32:56 GMT maximusarael020 said:

I thought it was illegal to lie to investors. Was that wrong? Pretty sure you can't do that. Some kind of securities fraud.

You can be happy with a product if it exceeds expectations. Expectations can be very low - which would make sense considering Andromedas delays and development history.

So it's not lying for EA to tell investors they are happy if the game sold poorly in relation to the trilogy, but above lowered expectations.

You'll notice they didn't bother to address sales figures as that would have led to more conversations they clearly didn't want to have.

They set the table for Andromeda to drive sales - that's their expectations. There's no tip-toeing involved, the investors are only interested in EA's opinion on how well Andromeda and Bioware are expected to perform in making them money.

Before any questions are taken in the Earnings Call, Mass Effect Andromeda is mentioned by Blake J. Jorgensen, Electronic Arts Inc. - CFO and EVP.

Focusing on Q1, we're expecting GAAP net revenue of $1.425 billion, GAAP cost of revenue of $157 million and GAAP EPS of $1.93. We expect Q1 net sales to be $750 million, up 10% year-on-year driven by Mass Effect: Andromeda, Battlefield 1 and Ultimate Team.

finance.yahoo.com/news/edited-transcript-ea-earnings-conference-022737730.html

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Post by smilesja on Jul 21, 2017 4:47:29 GMT

Jul 21, 2017 4:39:53 GMT suikoden said:

Jul 21, 2017 4:28:05 GMT smilesja said:

He apologized for his actions.

Nope he 100% did not.

Okay not apologize (though he may have in PMs) but he did have some civil conversations and reach an understanding.

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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jul 21, 2017 5:06:21 GMT

Well constructed post, must say. You have to be a complete fool to not considerate it a bit.

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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 21, 2017 6:13:37 GMT

Dumb and Dumber. Woof... y'all are pathetic.

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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 21, 2017 6:14:18 GMT

Jul 21, 2017 2:32:56 GMT maximusarael020 said:

I thought it was illegal to lie to investors. Was that wrong? Pretty sure you can't do that. Some kind of securities fraud.

Hell yes. You have to paint a careful picture not to scare off investors, but you can't lie to them.

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Post by suikoden on Jul 21, 2017 6:18:02 GMT

Jul 21, 2017 2:32:56 GMT maximusarael020 said:

I thought it was illegal to lie to investors. Was that wrong? Pretty sure you can't do that. Some kind of securities fraud.

Hell yes. You have to paint a careful picture not to scare off investors, but you can't lie to them.

You can be happy with a product if it exceeds expectations. Expectations can be very low - which would make sense considering Andromedas delays and development history.

So it's not lying for EA to tell investors they are happy if the game sold poorly in relation to the trilogy, but above lowered expectations.

You can clearly omit information though, as there were no actual sales numbers discussed. Is it a lie to know the truth but refuse to share it?

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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 21, 2017 6:25:00 GMT

Hell yes. You have to paint a careful picture not to scare off investors, but you can't lie to them.

You can be happy with a product if it exceeds expectations. Expectations can be very low - which would make sense considering Andromedas delays and development history.

So it's not lying for EA to tell investors they are happy if the game sold poorly in relation to the trilogy, but above lowered expectations.

You can clearly omit information though, as there were no actual sales numbers discussed. Is it a lie to know the truth but refuse to share it?

I was talking to Max. Not you... loser. Pathetic... loser. You're a bully of the lowest form hiding behind anonymity.

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Parallels between Dead Space 3 and Mass Effect Andromeda Jul 21, 2017 6:26:59 GMT

Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jul 21, 2017 6:26:59 GMT

Hell yes. You have to paint a careful picture not to scare off investors, but you can't lie to them.

You can be happy with a product if it exceeds expectations. Expectations can be very low - which would make sense considering Andromedas delays and development history.

So it's not lying for EA to tell investors they are happy if the game sold poorly in relation to the trilogy, but above lowered expectations.

You can clearly omit information though, as there were no actual sales numbers discussed. Is it a lie to know the truth but refuse to share it?

They set the table for Andromeda to drive sales - that's their expectations. There's no tip-toeing involved, the investors are only interested in EA's opinion on how well Andromeda and Bioware are expected to perform in making them money.

Before any questions are taken in the Earnings Call, Mass Effect Andromeda is mentioned by Blake J. Jorgensen, Electronic Arts Inc. - CFO and EVP.

Focusing on Q1, we're expecting GAAP net revenue of $1.425 billion, GAAP cost of revenue of $157 million and GAAP EPS of $1.93. We expect Q1 net sales to be $750 million, up 10% year-on-year driven by Mass Effect: Andromeda, Battlefield 1 and Ultimate Team.

finance.yahoo.com/news/edited-transcript-ea-earnings-conference-022737730.html

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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 21, 2017 6:30:10 GMT

It doesn't matter what you say. Dumb and Dumber are going to argue because that's how they get their kicks. They can't bully someone in real life, so they use the passive-aggressive type using the internet's anonymity. Pathetic. The game released in mid-March. They want to kick the dead horse because they're so ugly inside. It's JULY and they can't let go.

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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 21, 2017 6:36:22 GMT

Hell yes. You have to paint a careful picture not to scare off investors, but you can't lie to them.

You can be happy with a product if it exceeds expectations. Expectations can be very low - which would make sense considering Andromedas delays and development history.

So it's not lying for EA to tell investors they are happy if the game sold poorly in relation to the trilogy, but above lowered expectations.

You can clearly omit information though, as there were no actual sales numbers discussed. Is it a lie to know the truth but refuse to share it?

.

"We're very happy with kind of how BioWare is doing, how BioWare is treating Mass Effect. And our expectations for Mass Effect are still strong for the future and the franchise overall."

I'm sorry, you cannot say that to investors while knowing you are going to shelve the franchise. It would be totally misleading and absolutely unnecessary for them to go into that much detail about the future if it might get them in trouble down the line. This isn't a PR guy talking to some game magazine. There are laws. If they knew they were going to shelve the franchise, they would just say "We are happy with the way Bioware is treating Mass Effect and additional patches and multiplayer content will be on going.". Boom. No muss. No fuss. Still sounds happy enough for the investors. Mentions nothing about the future. Unless your assertion is that I'm smarter than the high-ups at EA, there's just no way they mention the word "future" at all if they plan on shelving the franchise.

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Parallels between Dead Space 3 and Mass Effect Andromeda Jul 21, 2017 6:45:30 GMT

Post by suikoden on Jul 21, 2017 6:45:30 GMT

Jul 21, 2017 6:36:22 GMT maximusarael020 said:

You can be happy with a product if it exceeds expectations. Expectations can be very low - which would make sense considering Andromedas delays and development history.

So it's not lying for EA to tell investors they are happy if the game sold poorly in relation to the trilogy, but above lowered expectations.

You can clearly omit information though, as there were no actual sales numbers discussed. Is it a lie to know the truth but refuse to share it?

.

"We're very happy with kind of how BioWare is doing, how BioWare is treating Mass Effect. And our expectations for Mass Effect are still strong for the future and the franchise overall."

I'm sorry, you cannot say that to investors while knowing you are going to shelve the franchise. It would be totally misleading and absolutely unnecessary for them to go into that much detail about the future if it might get them in trouble down the line. This isn't a PR guy talking to some game magazine. There are laws. If they knew they were going to shelve the franchise, they would just say "We are happy with the way Bioware is treating Mass Effect and additional patches and multiplayer content will be on going.". Boom. No muss. No fuss. Still sounds happy enough for the investors. Mentions nothing about the future. Unless your assertion is that I'm smarter than the high-ups at EA, there's just no way they mention the word "future" at all if they plan on shelving the franchise.

There's still multiplayer transactions in play for the foreseeable future - along with merchandising sales and novels/comics. I think it's very possible to have solid returns on Mass Effect products while at the same time taking a break from the games themselves. There's going to be a break regardless what with Anthem and DA4 - and they made no mention of DLC...

After Anthem and DA4 are released, and what with Casey back leading the way, there will probably be another Mass Effect - they're going to have to be super careful they get it right, though, to avoid another Andromeda early access debacle.

Look at how vehemently EA originally shot down Dead Space 4 cancellation rumours - their limp response to Mass Effect rumours pales in response, and DS4 is a game that WAS cancelled in the end.
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He actually sounds like a lot of posters on this forum...

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Parallels between Dead Space 3 and Mass Effect Andromeda Jul 21, 2017 6:51:00 GMT smilesja, maximusarael020, and 2 more like this

Post by SofaJockey on Jul 21, 2017 6:51:00 GMT

EDIT: I originally closed this thread because I felt the discussion replicated many other threads.

On appeal, I'm reopening it IF it stays on topic (DS3/MEA comparisons).

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ok, I'm confused now, we seem to have 2 'parallels' threads, so I'm merging them together.

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