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Post by maximusarael020 on Jul 21, 2017 3:14:50 GMT
Here's a question. Does it matter? These aren't sale numbers. They are only who is selling better than who in any given week. It's really rather meaningless in the scheme of things, unless you know sale numbers and that's what you are going for. Since we don't really know sale numbers, especially not week to week, this is all only important if you care on a certain week who outsold who.
It in no way shows success or failure of a particular title, as it shows no sale numbers. At best it's... amusing. At worst, it's a pissing contest.
But my all means, carry on with meaningless data. It amuses me, anyway. I always like to see what information people will use in the wrong way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 3:19:21 GMT
MEA falling down a list isn't surprising to me.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jul 21, 2017 4:06:26 GMT
Man, even DAI managed to do better. Just what, BioWare.
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Jul 21, 2017 4:09:46 GMT
...Okay, but DAI is literally their best game by sales...
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Post by suikoden on Jul 21, 2017 6:24:34 GMT
Another 'informative' thread from one half of the BioWare Bash Brothers. Pathetic. Sad and now... very amusing. I'm loving watching these guys devolve into passive-aggressive bullies hiding behind anonymity. Karma is coming. No need for name-calling. If anything, Bioware detractors are the ones being bullied - over and over again, everyday - an example being your own passive aggressive post right here. And the posters that will follow you into this thread spewing similar comments. But back on topic - this is probably one of the more legitimately informative threads as it's relaying reputable data that's respected within the industry. It's not like it's coming from VGChartz, after-all  |
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Post by vonuber on Jul 21, 2017 8:35:25 GMT
No need for name-calling. If anything, Bioware detractors are the ones being bullied - over and over again, everyday - an example being your own passive aggressive post right here. So you are now openly admitting to being a detractors Bioware, that's progress. And again I ask you - why do you spend your time doing this? Do you not have anything better to do with your life? It does strike me as an unhealthy obsession you have. |
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No need for name-calling. If anything, Bioware detractors are the ones being bullied - over and over again, everyday - an example being your own passive aggressive post right here. So you are now openly admitting to being a detractors Bioware, that's progress. And again I ask you - why do you spend your time doing this? Do you not have anything better to do with your life? It does strike me as an unhealthy obsession you have. Check the gamescon thread. It's as healthy as your obsession with my posts. |
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jul 21, 2017 8:51:57 GMT
So here's how Andromeda is tracking so far according to the June NPD report (released today) along with some comparables that debuted alongside Andromeda. If there's any takeaway from this information... it's this: How is GTA5 still selling so well?  EDIT: I believe this deserves it's own thread, seeing how most people have poo-pooed the VGChartz post. That thread could probably be merged with this one. Mass Effect: Andromeda March: 3rd April: 7th May: 15th June: Didn't chart (so worse than 20th) Breath of the WildMarch: 2nd April: 3rd May: 4th June: 6th Horizon: Zero DawnMarch: 4th April: 12th May: 12th June: 10th Ghost Recon: WildlandsMarch: 1st April: 5th May: 6th June: 11th GTA 5March: 6th April: 6th May: 3rd June: 3rd venturebeat.com/2017/04/20/march-2017-npd-zelda-and-tom-clancy-have-a-big-month/venturebeat.com/2017/05/18/april-2017-npd/venturebeat.com/2017/06/19/may-2017-npd-injustice-2-comes-out-on-top-as-nintendo-games-keep-selling/venturebeat.com/2017/07/20/june-2017-npd-tekken-and-injustice-roundhouse-kick-the-sales-chart/And as this was deleted from a thread that took quite a bit of research to put together and is worth the read: Let's do some reading between the lines. EA just happened to have a recent franchise that had a perceivedly weak instalment akin to Andromeda. Thoughts? Or are these similarities just happenstance? DS3: "While we have not announced sales for Dead Space 3, we are proud of the game and the franchise remains an important IP to EA," an EA spokesperson told Eurogamer. MEA: "We’re very happy with how BioWare is doing and how BioWare is treating Mass Effect. Our expectations for the Mass Effect IP are strong for the future." DS3: "VideoGamer's source claims EA executives informed Visceral Montreal last month... with details of the company's restructuring plans." MEA: “With our BioWare and Motive teams sharing studio space in Montreal, we have BioWare team members joining Motive projects that are underway. We’re also ramping up teams on other BioWare projects in development.” DS3: "EA believed Dead Space 3 could comfortably outsell its predecessors, with company CEO John Riccitiello saying he could see the game selling 5 million units. EA announced Dead Space 3 pre-orders were "outpacing" those for Dead Space 2 in January's earnings call, although the publisher didn't disclose by what margin." MEA: "EA didn’t actually mention Mass Effect: Andromeda in its earnings release, even though this was the publisher’s only major game that came out during the fourth fiscal quarter ended March 31." "EA has gone on the record to say its core game franchises need to sell upwards of five million copies to remain viable." www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-05-ea-cans-dead-space-series-following-poor-sales-of-dead-space-3-reportwww.engadget.com/2013/03/05/report-dead-space-4-canceled-after-poor-dead-space-3-sales/venturebeat.com/2017/05/09/eas-ceo-still-has-faith-in-bioware-after-mixed-mass-effect-andromeda-reviews/ There is a reason why Aaryn have to leave. Of course poor sales have nothing to do with it. Same like last week my Ex-GM been kicked out cause of bad financial results, but of course officially she is "ready for a new challenge and trying something new". |
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Post by vonuber on Jul 21, 2017 8:57:31 GMT
So you are now openly admitting to being a detractors Bioware, that's progress. And again I ask you - why do you spend your time doing this? Do you not have anything better to do with your life? It does strike me as an unhealthy obsession you have. Check the gamescon thread. It's as healthy as your obsession with my posts. Still avoiding the question I see. Anyway, given how much you spam this forum it is inevitable I will end replying to you, especially when you just post the same shit everyday. Here's a recommendation - actually go buy the game and play it to the end. You might be pleasantly surprised. |
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jul 21, 2017 9:16:50 GMT
So here's how Andromeda is tracking so far according to the June NPD report (released today) along with some comparables that debuted alongside Andromeda. If there's any takeaway from this information... it's this: How is GTA5 still selling so well? EDIT: I believe this deserves it's own thread, seeing how most people have poo-pooed the VGChartz post. That thread could probably be merged with this one. Mass Effect: Andromeda March: 3rd April: 7th May: 15th June: Didn't chart (so worse than 20th) Breath of the WildMarch: 2nd April: 3rd May: 4th June: 6th Horizon: Zero DawnMarch: 4th April: 12th May: 12th June: 10th Ghost Recon: WildlandsMarch: 1st April: 5th May: 6th June: 11th GTA 5March: 6th April: 6th May: 3rd June: 3rd venturebeat.com/2017/04/20/march-2017-npd-zelda-and-tom-clancy-have-a-big-month/venturebeat.com/2017/05/18/april-2017-npd/venturebeat.com/2017/06/19/may-2017-npd-injustice-2-comes-out-on-top-as-nintendo-games-keep-selling/venturebeat.com/2017/07/20/june-2017-npd-tekken-and-injustice-roundhouse-kick-the-sales-chart/And as this was deleted from a thread that took quite a bit of research to put together and is worth the read: Let's do some reading between the lines. EA just happened to have a recent franchise that had a perceivedly weak instalment akin to Andromeda. Thoughts? Or are these similarities just happenstance? DS3: "While we have not announced sales for Dead Space 3, we are proud of the game and the franchise remains an important IP to EA," an EA spokesperson told Eurogamer. MEA: "We’re very happy with how BioWare is doing and how BioWare is treating Mass Effect. Our expectations for the Mass Effect IP are strong for the future." DS3: "VideoGamer's source claims EA executives informed Visceral Montreal last month... with details of the company's restructuring plans." MEA: “With our BioWare and Motive teams sharing studio space in Montreal, we have BioWare team members joining Motive projects that are underway. We’re also ramping up teams on other BioWare projects in development.” DS3: "EA believed Dead Space 3 could comfortably outsell its predecessors, with company CEO John Riccitiello saying he could see the game selling 5 million units. EA announced Dead Space 3 pre-orders were "outpacing" those for Dead Space 2 in January's earnings call, although the publisher didn't disclose by what margin." MEA: "EA didn’t actually mention Mass Effect: Andromeda in its earnings release, even though this was the publisher’s only major game that came out during the fourth fiscal quarter ended March 31." "EA has gone on the record to say its core game franchises need to sell upwards of five million copies to remain viable." www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-05-ea-cans-dead-space-series-following-poor-sales-of-dead-space-3-reportwww.engadget.com/2013/03/05/report-dead-space-4-canceled-after-poor-dead-space-3-sales/venturebeat.com/2017/05/09/eas-ceo-still-has-faith-in-bioware-after-mixed-mass-effect-andromeda-reviews/ There is a reason why Aaryn have to leave. Of course poor sales have nothing to do with it. Same like last week my Ex-GM been kicked out cause of bad financial results, but of course officially she is "ready for a new challenge and trying something new". Ste100, to be honest... Flynn looked and sounded worn down. The guy took a lot of heat and he never threw anyone under the bus. He took it like a champ and yes, I know... he's the guy where the buck stops. He stepped down and Hudson is back. I'm not sure whether to do cartwheels or wish the doctors had never reached out to EA (or vice versa). I know exactly what you mean, but honestly... this is a case of a family man who poured 16 years into making awesome art and he needs a time out. Lessons are being learned, but I wonder if EA is learning anything. We'll see in the short and long run. I also know you're desperate for DLC and information as well after these crazy two months. I know how you feel. Skepticism is being fueled by silence and that's horrible marketing and PR. Anyway, the developers are at least more experienced and doing what they can to save the company's reputation. On that end, you have to give them praise and some slack that things are still being developed while EA concocts another stupid scheme like Anthem's unveil. |
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Post by correctamundo on Jul 21, 2017 10:16:11 GMT
Here's a question. Does it matter? These aren't sale numbers. They are only who is selling better than who in any given week. It's really rather meaningless in the scheme of things, unless you know sale numbers and that's what you are going for. Since we don't really know sale numbers, especially not week to week, this is all only important if you care on a certain week who outsold who. It in no way shows success or failure of a particular title, as it shows no sale numbers. At best it's... amusing. At worst, it's a pissing contest. But my all means, carry on with meaningless data. It amuses me, anyway. I always like to see what information people will use in the wrong way. No, not really. And since MEA is charting on NPD about the same as ME3 did there is nothing here proving MEA is having any sales problems. MEA has even got better legs than ME3. |
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Post by Psychevore on Jul 21, 2017 10:26:43 GMT
Man, even DAI managed to do better. Just what, BioWare. It was on sale last month, at least on PS4. 10 bucks for the digital deluxe version. Even I who has the entire game + all DLCs on PC considered buying it, cause it's a damn steal. This is also the reason GTA5 is still on the list btw, it's been on sale for months as far as I'm aware. |
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Post by Thrombin on Jul 21, 2017 10:41:29 GMT
Does the position each month really prove anything though? To take an extreme example, if 80% of the buying public buy MEA the first month and 19% the second month then the other months are going to be less than 1% from then on. Other games could sell 10%, then 9% then 8% and would still be surpassing MEA every month after the second having sold only a fraction of what MEA sold. Unless we know exactly the amounts sold I don't see how the relative position is particular relevant. |
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Post by jclosed on Jul 21, 2017 11:26:42 GMT
You know what I see in those "facts"?
Despite the rage and virulent "funny" outburst on YouTubbie, and the mouth foaming comments. Despite the hatestorm on Reddit, and numerous post after post after post after post from certain persons here explaining that the game is garbage and a pile of molten rubbish. Despite that this forum gets thread after thread after thread after thread bashing ME:A (all by the same person(s)).
Despite all that ME:A sold even better than Horizon Zero Dawn in it's first months. Not bad for a game that has so much "kicking in the balls" as explained above. So - If it proves anything - It proves the game sold well, despite all the hate storm it got.
Anyway - these numbers are not really relevant, because digital sales are not included, and those sales can make a really, really big difference. And let's be fair. Even now in July the sales could have back gone up significantly on the Origin platform, because of the sales promotion that is going on. We don't know, because we don't know the digital sales numbers. That's why that sales position on named sites do not matter all that much. The physical sales did not got that promotion, and will very likely be not representative any longer (if at all).
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Post by correctamundo on Jul 21, 2017 11:37:37 GMT
People try to talk sense to him, but he bats them away using the same argument. All I've ever seen people do is chastise him for not blindly suckling at Bioware's teat. Granted, I don't read this section very often these days, so I'm probably missing something. Eyes wide shut. Suikoden, can ask you some questions? What do you do for fun? Surely, it can't be spending all or a lot of your time on a board for a game you supposedly hate. Because if it is, I kind of feel sorry for you. Where do you live? Maybe you live in a one stoplight cow town or something and you got bored of cow tipping. I mean, surely if you lived somewhere semi-interesting you'd be able to find something more meaningful to do with your time You know, trolls gonna troll, whiners gonna whine, haters gonna hate, and gamers gonna game. And with that said I'm just gonna go...  |
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Post by cypherj on Jul 21, 2017 11:38:23 GMT
So here's how Andromeda is tracking so far according to the June NPD report (released today) along with some comparables that debuted alongside Andromeda. If there's any takeaway from this information... it's this: How is GTA5 still selling so well? EDIT: I believe this deserves it's own thread, seeing how most people have poo-pooed the VGChartz post. That thread could probably be merged with this one. Mass Effect: Andromeda March: 3rd April: 7th May: 15th June: Didn't chart (so worse than 20th) Breath of the WildMarch: 2nd April: 3rd May: 4th June: 6th Horizon: Zero DawnMarch: 4th April: 12th May: 12th June: 10th Ghost Recon: WildlandsMarch: 1st April: 5th May: 6th June: 11th GTA 5March: 6th April: 6th May: 3rd June: 3rd venturebeat.com/2017/04/20/march-2017-npd-zelda-and-tom-clancy-have-a-big-month/venturebeat.com/2017/05/18/april-2017-npd/venturebeat.com/2017/06/19/may-2017-npd-injustice-2-comes-out-on-top-as-nintendo-games-keep-selling/venturebeat.com/2017/07/20/june-2017-npd-tekken-and-injustice-roundhouse-kick-the-sales-chart/And as this was deleted from a thread that took quite a bit of research to put together and is worth the read: Let's do some reading between the lines. EA just happened to have a recent franchise that had a perceivedly weak instalment akin to Andromeda. Thoughts? Or are these similarities just happenstance? DS3: "While we have not announced sales for Dead Space 3, we are proud of the game and the franchise remains an important IP to EA," an EA spokesperson told Eurogamer. MEA: "We’re very happy with how BioWare is doing and how BioWare is treating Mass Effect. Our expectations for the Mass Effect IP are strong for the future." DS3: "VideoGamer's source claims EA executives informed Visceral Montreal last month... with details of the company's restructuring plans." MEA: “With our BioWare and Motive teams sharing studio space in Montreal, we have BioWare team members joining Motive projects that are underway. We’re also ramping up teams on other BioWare projects in development.” DS3: "EA believed Dead Space 3 could comfortably outsell its predecessors, with company CEO John Riccitiello saying he could see the game selling 5 million units. EA announced Dead Space 3 pre-orders were "outpacing" those for Dead Space 2 in January's earnings call, although the publisher didn't disclose by what margin." MEA: "EA didn’t actually mention Mass Effect: Andromeda in its earnings release, even though this was the publisher’s only major game that came out during the fourth fiscal quarter ended March 31." "EA has gone on the record to say its core game franchises need to sell upwards of five million copies to remain viable." www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-05-ea-cans-dead-space-series-following-poor-sales-of-dead-space-3-reportwww.engadget.com/2013/03/05/report-dead-space-4-canceled-after-poor-dead-space-3-sales/venturebeat.com/2017/05/09/eas-ceo-still-has-faith-in-bioware-after-mixed-mass-effect-andromeda-reviews/ There is a reason why Aaryn have to leave. Of course poor sales have nothing to do with it. Same like last week my Ex-GM been kicked out cause of bad financial results, but of course officially she is "ready for a new challenge and trying something new". The Development of the game was a train wreck, three years wasted development, almost all work done in the last 18 months, no clear direction. Someone has to be accountable for all of that and it's not going to be some low level developer or middle manager. Hudson just didn't up and decide right now of all times I want to come back to Bioware. Someone reached out to someone, and the whole vague statement of I've been looking for a change for some time sounds just like the old I'm stepping away to spend time with my family excuse people used to give. |
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Post by jclosed on Jul 21, 2017 11:44:29 GMT
There is a reason why Aaryn have to leave. Of course poor sales have nothing to do with it. Same like last week my Ex-GM been kicked out cause of bad financial results, but of course officially she is "ready for a new challenge and trying something new". The Development of the game was a train wreck, three years wasted development, almost all work done in the last 18 months, no clear direction. Someone has to be accountable for all of that and it's not going to be some low level developer or middle manager. Hudson just didn't up and decide right now of all times I want to come back to Bioware. Someone reached out to someone, and the whole vague statement of I've been looking for a change for some time sounds just like the old I'm stepping away to spend time with my family excuse people used to give. Hmm.. You know this is all speculation based on someone "reporting" on "sources that cannot be revealed"? I do not say it's untrue, but I DO say that it are no verifiable facts either. Anyway - I said what I think about those "numbers" a few posts upwards, and I leave it by that. |
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 21, 2017 11:48:15 GMT
You know what I see in those "facts"? Despite the rage and virulent "funny" outburst on YouTubbie, and the mouth foaming comments. Despite the hatestorm on Reddit, and numerous post after post after post after post from certain persons here explaining that the game is garbage and a pile of molten rubbish. Despite that this forum gets thread after thread after thread after thread bashing ME:A (all by the same person(s)). Despite all that ME:A sold even better than Horizon Zero Dawn in it's first months. Not bad for a game that has so much "kicking in the balls" as explained above. So - If it proves anything - It proves the game sold well, despite all the hate storm it got. Anyway - these numbers are not really relevant, because digital sales are not included, and those sales can make a really, really big difference. And let's be fair. Even now in July the sales could have back gone up significantly on the Origin platform, because of the sales promotion that is going on. We don't know, because we don't know the digital sales numbers. That's why that sales position on named sites do not matter all that much. The physical sales did not got that promotion, and will very likely be not representative any longer (if at all). Source on ME:A selling better than HZD? Also, don't you later say these numbers aren't relevant? Which is it? |
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Post by jclosed on Jul 21, 2017 12:02:49 GMT
You know what I see in those "facts"? Despite the rage and virulent "funny" outburst on YouTubbie, and the mouth foaming comments. Despite the hatestorm on Reddit, and numerous post after post after post after post from certain persons here explaining that the game is garbage and a pile of molten rubbish. Despite that this forum gets thread after thread after thread after thread bashing ME:A (all by the same person(s)). Despite all that ME:A sold even better than Horizon Zero Dawn in it's first months. Not bad for a game that has so much "kicking in the balls" as explained above. So - If it proves anything - It proves the game sold well, despite all the hate storm it got. Anyway - these numbers are not really relevant, because digital sales are not included, and those sales can make a really, really big difference. And let's be fair. Even now in July the sales could have back gone up significantly on the Origin platform, because of the sales promotion that is going on. We don't know, because we don't know the digital sales numbers. That's why that sales position on named sites do not matter all that much. The physical sales did not got that promotion, and will very likely be not representative any longer (if at all). Source on ME:A selling better than HZD? Also, don't you later say these numbers aren't relevant? Which is it? If you take a look at the "numbers" suikoden is so proudly presenting, you see that HZD is on the 4th place in March, while ME:A is on the 3th place, the same goes for April ME:A outsells HZD. Only in May ME:A falls back. Not bad for a game that is stamped on and ridiculed, compared to a game that is praised into heaven, don't you think? And yes - I only named those numbers to show that, even if you take that kind of numbers seriously (like suikoden seems to do), ME:A did not bad at all if you take the circumstances into account. That is not to say that I personally take those numbers serious, because of the reasons I explained later on. I hope this makes it clear? |
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 21, 2017 12:10:25 GMT
Brick and mortar sales mean shit today. Digital sales have mostly taken the majority of sales. EA is a bit behind, still scraping the 50% - but I assume PC sales already surpassed the 50% threshold in many sales regions. This lists mean mostly nothing - they *might* indicate how something in selling. Then again, some things sell like hot cakes in 3 months - other stuff burns more slowly but for over a year.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 21, 2017 12:11:33 GMT
So here's how Andromeda is tracking so far according to the June NPD report (released today) along with some comparables that debuted alongside Andromeda. If there's any takeaway from this information... it's this: How is GTA5 still selling so well? EDIT: I believe this deserves it's own thread, seeing how most people have poo-pooed the VGChartz post. That thread could probably be merged with this one. Mass Effect: Andromeda March: 3rd April: 7th May: 15th June: Didn't chart (so worse than 20th) Breath of the WildMarch: 2nd April: 3rd May: 4th June: 6th Horizon: Zero DawnMarch: 4th April: 12th May: 12th June: 10th Ghost Recon: WildlandsMarch: 1st April: 5th May: 6th June: 11th GTA 5March: 6th April: 6th May: 3rd June: 3rd I think that data like this is without context, so since this is your argument, I expect you to find some. Compare it with ME3 four months after launch, or DAI four months after launch. Because I believe that DAI sales dropped pretty fast and it was out of the top 10 within a month. And is anyone surprised to see an RPG, which is rather a niche market now, fall out of the top 20 four months after release? Because they shouldn't be. |
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Post by cypherj on Jul 21, 2017 12:25:52 GMT
The Development of the game was a train wreck, three years wasted development, almost all work done in the last 18 months, no clear direction. Someone has to be accountable for all of that and it's not going to be some low level developer or middle manager. Hudson just didn't up and decide right now of all times I want to come back to Bioware. Someone reached out to someone, and the whole vague statement of I've been looking for a change for some time sounds just like the old I'm stepping away to spend time with my family excuse people used to give. Hmm.. You know this is all speculation based on someone "reporting" on "sources that cannot be revealed"? I do not say it's untrue, but I DO say that it are no verifiable facts either. Anyway - I said what I think about those "numbers" a few posts upwards, and I leave it by that. It's not a huge step considering the state of the game at release. Something went wrong. They've spent the past four months patching a lot of things that should have been taken care of during development. They also have to now have a second free trial (never seen a post release free trial for a Bioware game before) just to try and say hey, look at the game now, see how we've fixed it. It was lowest reviewed Bioware game ever, and was surrounded by negative press. Someone is almost always held accountable for things like this, justified or not, and it's going to be someone high level. |
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