Extremely unpopular opinion: I hate quarians.

Oh yea I'm a real-life sociopath who has no sympathy for the underprivileged. Thank you for your input, random guy/girl/whatever on the Internet who apparently knows me so well.

If your going to try and give a sarcastic reply try using an example that doesn't make you look silly by doing it. Because the Geth like all other races would be taken over regardless.  They would have put up much more of a fight then say Batarians but they would still be isolated and alone. Any attempt to flee Geth space would result in their ships being blown up. Because you know to the rest of the galaxy Geth are bogey men.

And as you well know since you are not a new member or new to the game. The only reason the Geth get wiped out at Rannoch is because the Quarians attack after the Reaper signal is terminated and the Geth are standing there (metaphorically speaking) around dazed and confused. How ever without the Geth/Quarian Conflict that drew Shepard into the mix which resulted in the signal being cut at the source. The Geth Fleet and ground forces would still have the Reaper code upgrade. Increasing their capabilities (plus any Reaper tech upgrades) of which the Reaper code by it self is enough to wipe the Quarians off the face of the galaxy and still leave enough ships and mobile platforms to be a serious factor in favor against the Reapers.

TL;DR
Yes the Geth can be destroyed at Rannoch but you are conveniently ignoring the conditions that allow it. While the conditions that allow the Geth to be such an effective destructive forces for the Reapers would still exist without the Geth/Quarian Conflict that takes place in ME3.

Um.. No shit? Of course real life events inspire artists (using that term to apply to writers, game devs etc on a general level). How else are they able to express themselves otherwise?
The annoying part is when people turn these discussions into a political/historical debate which has nothing to do with the simple topic that OP doesn't like quarians based on the lore and how they are written into the game.

On topic, I actually agree. Quarians are annoying.

You still didn't seem to show the part that I said:

 Because over analyzing and saying that you are a real life sociopath who has no sympathy or the underprivileged are not even vaugly the same.  As for over analyzing the Quarians are literally a faceless group of refugees who suffer discrimination and are treated poorly by the rest of the galactic civilizations because of their past actions that had sever negative consequences for themselves. This isn't so much over analyzing anything as pointing out the elephant currently crushing your chest under it's weight. If it got anymore obvious and ham fisted I would expect BioWare to send an employee to the house of everyone who bought the game, grab them by the shoulders and shacking them violently while screaming at the top of their lungs "Do you get it!" If you think they are being an overly cliche victim  writing that feels to forced then welcome to the facts of life. It is stranger and less realistic then fiction in many aspects.

History is full of examples of actions and choices that seemed like a good idea at the time but in retrospect turned out to be terrible ideas.  Quarians were sure their reasons were justified and logical in their own heads. Which is no different then what you or I are doing right now. To each of us our actions are justified in our own minds.  I mean even just the hint of me disagreeing with you has you lashing out making rather outrageous statements about what I said. Because you are sure that your logic and ideas about the Quarians are fully and completely justified. So why is the Quarian's logic and justification for the events that lead to Morning War or justification for attempting to reclaim their home world that just happened to be at the worst timing ever any different?

Why would you make yourself like them? I always despised Asari, and happy to continue to do so. Krogans, I did not like in the OT, but liked in Andromeda. All and all, the alien races in OT are overly exaggerated humans, so I think it's natural that folks don't like one variant or another.

I did like Tali and the whole space gypsies/Jews ethos of Quarians & the Fleet/home world search, but I don't really feel bad other people don't.

Do you like Geth?

I'm not saying the Quarians were wrong in trying to find a place to stash their non-combatants, but I am saying it was rather stupid of them to just start shooting instead of talking. When I brought Legion to Tali's trial, it specifically spoke to the entire admiralty board and said that "The Geth are not opposed to peace with the creators." Blindly charging in and attacking the collective, thereby causing them to turn to the Reapers for "help" winded up costing the Quarians far more non-combatants than if they would have simply tried opening a communications channel. 




And while it's true that everyone else in the galaxy was looking after their own interests I felt, that out of all the major Council races, the Turians were the most interested in collaboration for collaboration's sake. And I still say that the Rachni were the most selfless species overall.

Palaven was under siege, and the Turian fleets were occupying the vast majority of the Reaper fleets, so they are already helping everyone else by simply standing in the way of the invasion forces; which, as a result, saw their homeworld suffer far more destruction and devastation than any other species' worlds. And despite taking the brunt of the attack, and their home world being one of the few actively contested places left in the galaxy, they still agreed to Hackett's & Shepard's asinine plan of "Taking back Earth" despite it holding no strategic value and being far behind enemy lines.

Likewise the Rachni, unlike the Krogan, didn't hold back on previously promised aid in order to garner restitutions from the other species, and unlike the Quarians the predicament we find her in during ME 3 is not a result of questionable choices on her part. Indeed the fact that the Reapers specifically hunted her down prior to the main conflict seems to indicate that the Rachni posed a greater threat to them than the Krogan did. The queen is perfectly willing to let herself, and the future of her species, die if Shepard feels they are too risky to keep around after her capture. And on the other hand, once she is freed she immediately sets about aiding the allied galaxy in whatever capacity she can, no demands given, not holding anything back.

That's what the rachni queen says but if you opt to kill her she tried to escape.  It means that she'll say whatever she needs to say but has no intention of dying.  I'm not saying that she's wrong to do so.  It's self-preservation.  She's just not as willing to die based on whatever Shepard happens to feel in the moment as you want to believe.

That's in ME 1, if you free her in the first game, and then opt to kill her in ME 3 she will accept Shepard's line of reasoning that the Rachni are simply too dangerous for the rest of the galaxy to continue.

Legion also had dialogue for the game as early as Jack and Grunts recruitment. BioWare changed their minds on that as well in how they structured the game. Nor does it fit with the flow of the game to have players attempt that save by random luck or foreknowlege. Because the way the game flows you get all the loyalty missions that pop up before the IFF mission. So it looks/looked from my perspective that IFF mission then I would be going after the collectors in a one two mission set up that would prevent me from doing anything else. Particularly since the game already pulls that twice already with Collector ship and Horizon or what ever the planet is. Once you trigger it you are doing it regardless of if you have everything together or not.

As for deja vu feeling:



So while it is stupid but pretty understandable given how people actually act.

None of that is actually stupid in the proper context of their views and actions. It is stupid from our perspective of course but we know more then they do and are free of the actual threat. I live in south Florida and it looks like the Cat 5 hurricane Irma is going to rail road us hard. And people are a bit panicked and doing very odd things. So increase the threat and increase the consequences and people acting a bit loopy and not making decisions that retrospectively or someone who is living in France might not agree with is kind of par the course.

It is rather ironic the some times bad writing actually makes the game more realistic because no one acts perfectly in any form of stress.

And yet none of that is happening and yet you are acting as if it has already happened.  You seem like one of those lovely chaps on social media or even in the real world when anyone mentions anything they burst out declaring that events that haven't taken place yet have taken place already.  Like someone mentions gun control usually in responds to some new shooting. And you burst out like a raging bull how because someone mentions gun control it means they really want to take all the guns away so the whole conversation is pointless because that is all they want.

I will admit the holier-then-thou pseudo-intellectual dickwad comment was funny. But only because you are expression the very concepts you so complain about. Blatant hypocrisy is ever so amusing. Please do keep it up as the world can be a bleak place and people need a good laugh now and then.