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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 26, 2017 1:40:01 GMT
If there ever is a DLC, I'd hope they expand on the two "ancient" races from Andromeda. The ones that built everything and the one that deployed the scourge. My impressions is that the two are still out there... how it fits with the Kett being in many cluster I have no idea.
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Post by glockwheeler on Jul 26, 2017 22:47:46 GMT
Or...what if the Quarians and Geth collaborated for the journey and Ark's construction? We know it was the Geth's information utilizing a mass relay-enhanced telescope that enabled the Andromeda Initiative to see, what they thought at the time, were current events in the Heleus cluster as opposed to guessing what might awaiting them 2.5 million light years away. What if, for mutual benefit, they worked together and some other external threat is dogging them? Lot's of interesting ways the Quarian Ark DLC could go Return of the Geth Juggernaut? Heck yeah.
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Post by jackal13th on Aug 12, 2017 13:00:03 GMT
Personally i would love to see the Quarian's come back to meet the Jardaan Race.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 12, 2017 15:00:08 GMT
At this point the Quarian's could come dressed as clowns and I'd be happy.
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Post by Element Zero on Aug 12, 2017 16:26:52 GMT
I assumed that the geth would be along for the ride, as soon as the postgame indicated that the quarian ark was planned DLC. I recall debating and brainstorming possible geth scenarios with Hanako Ikezawa last year. I'd be shocked if they didn't include such a popular "species" in such a DLC. It was geth eyes that allowed he Ai to peer into the Heleus Cluster. It's still an open question as to what the geth were looking for in deep space. It makes sense that they'd try to come along in some capacity. Software should have a relatively easy time stowing away. Imagine a quarian who awakes to discover that the geth have built a few platforms during the 600 years trip. Alternatively, the geth might've awoken the quarians early as the kett or the Scourge treatened their ark. There a many ways to include the geth and allow for cross-species cooperation. Mutually assured destruction via an external threat would be an obvious icebreaker. Discussing this makes me a bit sad. I don't believe we'll ever see this expansion to the game. Maybe some questions can be answered via novels or comics; but I don't think this storyline will ever be properly developed and finished, sadly.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 12, 2017 23:14:23 GMT
My money's on Reapers.
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Post by Guts on Aug 12, 2017 23:19:11 GMT
I don't want them to add an entirely new race in DLC... that would be very poor storytelling. Every Mass Effect game so far has added a new species in a DLC. ME1: Batarians ME2: Yahg ME3: Leviathans I might ruffle some feathers by saying this, but I'd rather we didn't bring up LoTSB.
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Post by Guts on Aug 12, 2017 23:19:38 GMT
Or...what if the Quarians and Geth collaborated for the journey and Ark's construction? We know it was the Geth's information utilizing a mass relay-enhanced telescope that enabled the Andromeda Initiative to see, what they thought at the time, were current events in the Heleus cluster as opposed to guessing what might awaiting them 2.5 million light years away. What if, for mutual benefit, they worked together and some other external threat is dogging them? Lot's of interesting ways the Quarian Ark DLC could go Return of the Geth Juggernaut? Heck yeah. Geth Juggernaut Squadmate when?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 12, 2017 23:19:51 GMT
Every Mass Effect game so far has added a new species in a DLC. ME1: Batarians ME2: Yahg ME3: Leviathans I might rustle some feathers by saying this, but I'd rather we didn't bring up LoTSB. Why not, out of curiosity?
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Post by Guts on Aug 12, 2017 23:22:58 GMT
I might rustle some feathers by saying this, but I'd rather we didn't bring up LoTSB. Why not, out of curiosity? I personally disliked the DLC. A lot.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 12, 2017 23:25:10 GMT
Why not, out of curiosity? I personally disliked the DLC. A lot. Okay. Still, I was only bringing it up because it did introduce a new species.
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Post by Guts on Aug 12, 2017 23:27:00 GMT
I personally disliked the DLC. A lot. Okay. Still, I was only bringing it up because it did introduce a new species. Yeah, that's fine. I just, really hated how that DLC handled character development.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 13, 2017 2:04:17 GMT
Okay. Still, I was only bringing it up because it did introduce a new species. Yeah, that's fine. I just, really hated how that DLC handled character development. As someone who loves that dlc I'm curious what you found wrong? I only have one gripe. They used generic male merc audio for the Shadow Broker Mercs. The Asari all sounded like generic male mercs.
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Post by Guts on Aug 13, 2017 2:57:11 GMT
Yeah, that's fine. I just, really hated how that DLC handled character development. As someone who loves that dlc I'm curious what you found wrong? I only have one gripe. They used generic male merc audio for the Shadow Broker Mercs. The Asari all sounded like generic male mercs. Massive tirade incoming: It was how Liara's character development was handled. Where to begin with this one? I mean shy archaeologist becoming the best info broker in the galaxy in the span of two years. That's just ridiculous, I mean she had no interest in becoming an info broker in ME1, I also think it takes a little bit more than having skills as an archaeologist, so where did she suddenly get those skills? Plus how she was shown in the comics was like how she was shown in LoTSB, this was supposed to be BEFORE the events that changed her, granted she developed combat skills by the end of ME1, but the whole redemption character arc was an example of shoving Liara down your throat as a love interest, which is pretty bad for someone who didn't romance her or didn't even like her. I was also not fond of how she takes your old armor and enshrines it in your apartment (like that's not creepy at all), and how she's portrayed as a character who couldn't do anything wrong, morally or otherwise, as in you couldn't question her about her actions, like the aforementioned armor thing. I felt that her character development required speculation in order to make sense. It left me with a feeling that Mac Walters or whoever was manipulating the events in order to fit Liara into the plot, which is, from what I read, an example of bad character development. By the third game, it seems being the shadow broker meant nothing, despite being described as a "very good" info broker, she seemed unable to use those resources to help with stuff like tracking Kai Leng, that was apparently because the writers felt she had enough screen time so they had to reduce her importance in this regard, which begs the question: WHY MAKE HER AN INFO BROKER IN THE FIRST PLACE?I mean just keeping her as an archaeologist would've been fine, I mean having her finding the crucible I didn't have a problem with, because she was built up in the first game as an archaeologist, but having her be an info broker just feels like something that was put into the story to make Liara look cool. (Rant over) Granted if you like the DLC, that's cool, I personally feel that it would've been a whole lot better if the character it revolved around wasn't Liara, I mean you could make a completely different character and it would've made much more sense. Coming from someone who liked Liara in the first game, yeah I would've wanted her to harden and grow as a character, but with the way she developed, it just wasn't handled well. Agreed on the male merc voices, why does an asari sound like a guy lol.
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Post by sil on Aug 13, 2017 8:45:16 GMT
It sounds like a lot of your issues stem from her in ME2 rather than the LotSB DLC itself. I loved LotSB, but Liara just didn't work right as an info broker, or at least, one as successful as she was. It would've been more believable if she wasn't especially competent at the job.
And yeah, they do have a habit of adding new races with each game via dlc, but I suspect if we get DLC, we'll be getting new models (and new gender models) for the old races. Which I feel is quite a good amount of content. I'd be surprised if Geth aren't involved, either as friends, enemies or both.
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Post by mannyray on Aug 13, 2017 11:54:53 GMT
I think if we temper speculation with realistic expectations, we know we probably will not see an entirely new race. The Quarian DLC may be on the scale of the Asari ark story we had for Cora. As far as plot, it could be anything ranging from radical Quarians trying to hijack/destroy SAM to them in dire peril because they found something that gives our AI heroes vital clues into what set off the scourge.
The only way I would ever want Reapers seen again for any reason is if a derelict reaper scout or group from centuries ago was found dead--effortlessly destroyed by whatever made the Scourge. The foreshadowing of an enemy even more beyond the scope of the Milky Way races sets up great future possibilities. I just don't think we can expect a big, beefy dlc like we've seen in past games this time.
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Post by sil on Aug 13, 2017 13:51:20 GMT
I think if we temper speculation with realistic expectations, we know we probably will not see an entirely new race. The Quarian DLC may be on the scale of the Asari ark story we had for Cora. As far as plot, it could be anything ranging from radical Quarians trying to hijack/destroy SAM to them in dire peril because they found something that gives our AI heroes vital clues into what set off the scourge. The only way I would ever want Reapers seen again for any reason is if a derelict reaper scout or group from centuries ago was found dead--effortlessly destroyed by whatever made the Scourge. The foreshadowing of an enemy even more beyond the scope of the Milky Way races sets up great future possibilities. I just don't think we can expect a big, beefy dlc like we've seen in past games this time. I really like that idea, the thought of seeing a dead Reaper like the Leviathan of Dis or the one that Shepard discovers Legion on board would be very interesting. Not because it would lead to a return of the Reapers or something like that, but it would be fantastic as a catalyst for a different type of story, perhaps regarding the dangers of experimenting with supremely advanced technology, or how certain elements of it like tech that indoctrinates would be misused by factions (both 'good' and 'bad') to achieve their aims. There is a lot of potential in a Reaper corpse being discovered in Andromeda.
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Post by christsuperstar on Aug 16, 2017 11:19:22 GMT
While I hope that we'll get a DLC, I just don't think we will - it's been 5 months now, and not a peep. :/ I'm still annoyed the hate train got so out of hand - for very facepalm inducing reasons too. But guess it just goes to show people generally are idiots, and hope BioWare/EA learned not to add more fuel than necessary.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 16, 2017 12:10:47 GMT
While I hope that we'll get a DLC, I just don't think we will - it's been 5 months now, and not a peep. :/ I'm still annoyed the hate train got so out of hand - for very facepalm inducing reasons too. But guess it just goes to show people generally are idiots, and hope BioWare/EA learned not to add more fuel than necessary. The hate train was/is almost as bad as NMS was.
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Post by bossattack on Aug 16, 2017 12:45:27 GMT
While I hope that we'll get a DLC, I just don't think we will - it's been 5 months now, and not a peep. :/ I'm still annoyed the hate train got so out of hand - for very facepalm inducing reasons too. But guess it just goes to show people generally are idiots, and hope BioWare/EA learned not to add more fuel than necessary. I don't believe the "hate train" had anything to do with Montreal being closed down and the likelihood of any SP DLC scrapped. There are plenty of "bad" to mediocre EA titles that get DLC, even ones that sold poorly at release. No, I think the real reason is because Montreal took five years to develop a single game that was never a mega seller for EA in the first place. And, it was only after a large effort by teams in Austin and Edmonton helping out and Mac Walters having to step into the Creative Director chair that the game managed to ship. I'm pretty sure that regardless of MEA's reception they had planned to close that studio down, they simply weren't ready for the kind of responsibility given to them.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 17, 2017 14:56:46 GMT
If there ever is a DLC, I'd hope they expand on the two "ancient" races from Andromeda. The ones that built everything and the one that deployed the scourge. My impressions is that the two are still out there... how it fits with the Kett being in many cluster I have no idea. Other then the Remnant and the Jardann ships we don't have any evidence to suggest that the Jardann or "The Opposition" died out. I like to think that the ark found alive Jardann fleet or an "Opposition" fleet and thus that's why they don't want to be rescued? I still don't have a clue on what would make someone not want to be rescued if they were under attack.
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Post by corsair on Aug 17, 2017 15:01:28 GMT
If there ever is a DLC, I'd hope they expand on the two "ancient" races from Andromeda. The ones that built everything and the one that deployed the scourge. My impressions is that the two are still out there... how it fits with the Kett being in many cluster I have no idea. Other then the Remnant and the Jardann ships we don't have any evidence to suggest that the Jardann or "The Opposition" died out. I like to think that the ark found alive Jardann fleet or an "Opposition" fleet and thus that's why they don't want to be rescued? I still don't have a clue on what would make someone not want to be rescued if they were under attack. I think that would be something that's very contagious, or dangerous to SAM. So they don't want the other pathfinder's SAM to be infected. It could be an informatic virus that could propagate quickly between the Initiative systems.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 17, 2017 15:25:54 GMT
Other then the Remnant and the Jardann ships we don't have any evidence to suggest that the Jardann or "The Opposition" died out. I like to think that the ark found alive Jardann fleet or an "Opposition" fleet and thus that's why they don't want to be rescued? I still don't have a clue on what would make someone not want to be rescued if they were under attack. I think that would be something that's very contagious, or dangerous to SAM. So they don't want the other pathfinder's SAM to be infected. It could be an informatic virus that could propagate quickly between the Initiative systems. That would be rather boring gameplay though.
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Post by corsair on Aug 17, 2017 23:56:31 GMT
I think that would be something that's very contagious, or dangerous to SAM. So they don't want the other pathfinder's SAM to be infected. It could be an informatic virus that could propagate quickly between the Initiative systems. That would be rather boring gameplay though. Mmh perhaps the infection could be related to Scourge-corrupted Geth
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Post by bossattack on Aug 18, 2017 16:02:52 GMT
I should also make note that I think a Quarian Ark DLC is just plain boring and speaks to the whole backwards looking design of Andromeda. Are we in a new galaxy or just the Milky Way with some different paint? If this is a whole NEW galaxy then forget about the Quarians, forget about the Hanar, Drell, Volus, Batarians, Vorcha, and all the rest. If you wanted all of that then you should've stayed in the Milky Way. What I want is for them to capitalize on the setting they tried to sell us on for years, A WHOLE NEW GALAXY. I want to see something new. New races, new alien civilizations, new cultures, new technology, new conflicts, etc. I've already met the Quarians, I've learned everything I can about them, and I even solved their stupid dispute with synthetics. I don't care about the Quarians anymore, give me something new.
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