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Post by Element Zero on Aug 19, 2017 5:41:41 GMT
I should also make note that I think a Quarian Ark DLC is just plain boring and speaks to the whole backwards looking design of Andromeda. Are we in a new galaxy or just the Milky Way with some different paint? If this is a whole NEW galaxy then forget about the Quarians, forget about the Hanar, Drell, Volus, Batarians, Vorcha, and all the rest. If you wanted all of that then you should've stayed in the Milky Way. What I want is for them to capitalize on the setting they tried to sell us on for years, A WHOLE NEW GALAXY. I want to see something new. New races, new alien civilizations, new cultures, new technology, new conflicts, etc. I've already met the Quarians, I've learned everything I can about them, and I even solved their stupid dispute with synthetics. I don't care about the Quarians anymore, give me something new. Installing the the rest of the MW species makes sense for a DLC, in my opinion. We're not talking about making a sequel of it, or even a major story arc in a sequel. DLC fills in blanks in a game, and often prepares the way for the sequel. Make no mistake, we are only playing in Andromeda because Casey Hudson nuked the setting at the end of his trilogy. He had no intention of further ME games being made; so he felt free to do as he wished in concluding a decade of work. If this game could've been set in the MW without pissing off many fans, it would've been. It makes perfect sense to install beloved peoples and features from the OT in Andromeda. If they get all of this done in the first Andromeda game, they can then move forward with all of the good ideas you propose.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 19, 2017 5:55:00 GMT
I should also make note that I think a Quarian Ark DLC is just plain boring and speaks to the whole backwards looking design of Andromeda. Are we in a new galaxy or just the Milky Way with some different paint? If this is a whole NEW galaxy then forget about the Quarians, forget about the Hanar, Drell, Volus, Batarians, Vorcha, and all the rest. If you wanted all of that then you should've stayed in the Milky Way. What I want is for them to capitalize on the setting they tried to sell us on for years, A WHOLE NEW GALAXY. I want to see something new. New races, new alien civilizations, new cultures, new technology, new conflicts, etc. I've already met the Quarians, I've learned everything I can about them, and I even solved their stupid dispute with synthetics. I don't care about the Quarians anymore, give me something new. Installing the the rest of the MW species makes sense for a DLC, in my opinion. We're not talking about making a sequel of it, or even a major story arc in a sequel. DLC fills in blanks in a game, and often prepares the way for the sequel. Make no mistake, we are only playing in Andromeda because Casey Hudson nuked the setting at the end of his trilogy. He had no intention of further ME games being made; so he felt free to do as he wished in concluding a decade of work. If this game could've been set in the MW without pissing off many fans, it would've been. It makes perfect sense to install beloved peoples and features from the OT in Andromeda. If they get all of this done in the first Andromeda game, they can then move forward with all of the good ideas you propose. exactly. Andromeda serves some of the same narrative purpose as TFA. A bridge.
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Post by bossattack on Aug 19, 2017 6:31:06 GMT
I should also make note that I think a Quarian Ark DLC is just plain boring and speaks to the whole backwards looking design of Andromeda. Are we in a new galaxy or just the Milky Way with some different paint? If this is a whole NEW galaxy then forget about the Quarians, forget about the Hanar, Drell, Volus, Batarians, Vorcha, and all the rest. If you wanted all of that then you should've stayed in the Milky Way. What I want is for them to capitalize on the setting they tried to sell us on for years, A WHOLE NEW GALAXY. I want to see something new. New races, new alien civilizations, new cultures, new technology, new conflicts, etc. I've already met the Quarians, I've learned everything I can about them, and I even solved their stupid dispute with synthetics. I don't care about the Quarians anymore, give me something new. Installing the the rest of the MW species makes sense for a DLC, in my opinion. We're not talking about making a sequel of it, or even a major story arc in a sequel. DLC fills in blanks in a game, and often prepares the way for the sequel. Make no mistake, we are only playing in Andromeda because Casey Hudson nuked the setting at the end of his trilogy. He had no intention of further ME games being made; so he felt free to do as he wished in concluding a decade of work. If this game could've been set in the MW without pissing off many fans, it would've been. It makes perfect sense to install beloved peoples and features from the OT in Andromeda. If they get all of this done in the first Andromeda game, they can then move forward with all of the good ideas you propose. First of all, I fundamentally disagree with the notion that future ME titles couldn't take place in the OT because of the ME3 ending. Casey was more than receptive to future ME titles, specifically ones within the MW. He repeatedly made notions about how cool and interesting it could be to just tell a story on the Citadel, post ME3. It was the Andromeda team that chose to go to a new galaxy, they weren't forced to. If they wanted a game post-ME3 they could've just chose an ending, obviously Destroy would make the most sense, and continue from there. This would not have pissed off fans anymore than going to a new galaxy did, hell most people chose Destroy any way. But, I digress. The whole point of going to a new galaxy is to tell a new story with new characters and new conflicts. If the best they can do is reintroduce old species and conflicts from the OT then they have failed and should have just stayed in the MW. I don't care about the Quarians anymore, I got enough of them in the trilogy. I don't even need them at all in the Andromeda galaxy, why does every single MW race have to make the journey over. I thought the point of Andromeda, was once again, to go somewhere new and see new things. Not, to rehash the same races we encountered in the MW. Quarians aren't interesting anymore, they're old news. If Andromeda ever got a DLC I would hope it would introduce us to something new. Give us a new race, a new planet, maybe give us some insight into Kett society, whatever. Just make sure it's something new, unique to Andromeda and not once again banking off of the OT.
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Post by sil on Aug 19, 2017 11:06:59 GMT
Installing the the rest of the MW species makes sense for a DLC, in my opinion. We're not talking about making a sequel of it, or even a major story arc in a sequel. DLC fills in blanks in a game, and often prepares the way for the sequel. Make no mistake, we are only playing in Andromeda because Casey Hudson nuked the setting at the end of his trilogy. He had no intention of further ME games being made; so he felt free to do as he wished in concluding a decade of work. If this game could've been set in the MW without pissing off many fans, it would've been. It makes perfect sense to install beloved peoples and features from the OT in Andromeda. If they get all of this done in the first Andromeda game, they can then move forward with all of the good ideas you propose. First of all, I fundamentally disagree with the notion that future ME titles couldn't take place in the OT because of the ME3 ending. Casey was more than receptive to future ME titles, specifically ones within the MW. He repeatedly made notions about how cool and interesting it could be to just tell a story on the Citadel, post ME3. It was the Andromeda team that chose to go to a new galaxy, they weren't forced to. If they wanted a game post-ME3 they could've just chose an ending, obviously Destroy would make the most sense, and continue from there. This would not have pissed off fans anymore than going to a new galaxy did, hell most people chose Destroy any way. But, I digress. The whole point of going to a new galaxy is to tell a new story with new characters and new conflicts. If the best they can do is reintroduce old species and conflicts from the OT then they have failed and should have just stayed in the MW. I don't care about the Quarians anymore, I got enough of them in the trilogy. I don't even need them at all in the Andromeda galaxy, why does every single MW race have to make the journey over. I thought the point of Andromeda, was once again, to go somewhere new and see new things. Not, to rehash the same races we encountered in the MW. Quarians aren't interesting anymore, they're old news. If Andromeda ever got a DLC I would hope it would introduce us to something new. Give us a new race, a new planet, maybe give us some insight into Kett society, whatever. Just make sure it's something new, unique to Andromeda and not once again banking off of the OT. Actually, Control makes the most logical sense for playing in the Milky Way as it returns the galaxy to a sort of status quo. It doesn't categorically wipe out the Geth or EDI, the Citadel doesn't face wholesale destruction and the Reapers just leave. 100 years after that, and the galaxy would be different but still much the same as the one we've enjoyed in the original trilogy. I'd rather see a Post-Destruction Ending where it turns out the Catalyst was lying about EDI and the Geth in a desperate bid to save its own skin, but I doubt Bioware would do something like that, even though it'd add an interesting twist on the Catalyst that it wanted to live, it was trying to manipulate you into making the choice it most wanted.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 19, 2017 15:42:25 GMT
Installing the the rest of the MW species makes sense for a DLC, in my opinion. We're not talking about making a sequel of it, or even a major story arc in a sequel. DLC fills in blanks in a game, and often prepares the way for the sequel. Make no mistake, we are only playing in Andromeda because Casey Hudson nuked the setting at the end of his trilogy. He had no intention of further ME games being made; so he felt free to do as he wished in concluding a decade of work. If this game could've been set in the MW without pissing off many fans, it would've been. It makes perfect sense to install beloved peoples and features from the OT in Andromeda. If they get all of this done in the first Andromeda game, they can then move forward with all of the good ideas you propose. First of all, I fundamentally disagree with the notion that future ME titles couldn't take place in the OT because of the ME3 ending. Casey was more than receptive to future ME titles, specifically ones within the MW. He repeatedly made notions about how cool and interesting it could be to just tell a story on the Citadel, post ME3. It was the Andromeda team that chose to go to a new galaxy, they weren't forced to. If they wanted a game post-ME3 they could've just chose an ending, obviously Destroy would make the most sense, and continue from there. This would not have pissed off fans anymore than going to a new galaxy did, hell most people chose Destroy any way. But, I digress. The whole point of going to a new galaxy is to tell a new story with new characters and new conflicts. If the best they can do is reintroduce old species and conflicts from the OT then they have failed and should have just stayed in the MW. I don't care about the Quarians anymore, I got enough of them in the trilogy. I don't even need them at all in the Andromeda galaxy, why does every single MW race have to make the journey over. I thought the point of Andromeda, was once again, to go somewhere new and see new things. Not, to rehash the same races we encountered in the MW. Quarians aren't interesting anymore, they're old news. If Andromeda ever got a DLC I would hope it would introduce us to something new. Give us a new race, a new planet, maybe give us some insight into Kett society, whatever. Just make sure it's something new, unique to Andromeda and not once again banking off of the OT. Ok first off you just have been napping during the outrage from day zero (MEA announced) till launch. It was a constant "They better include *insert MW race here* or else!" Second when did Casey say that as I see nada. He knows better than anyone that it going back to the MW is not feasible. It would require canonization of an ending, something they said they would not do. It would receive more ire than Andromeda.
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Post by bossattack on Aug 19, 2017 17:28:08 GMT
First of all, I fundamentally disagree with the notion that future ME titles couldn't take place in the OT because of the ME3 ending. Casey was more than receptive to future ME titles, specifically ones within the MW. He repeatedly made notions about how cool and interesting it could be to just tell a story on the Citadel, post ME3. It was the Andromeda team that chose to go to a new galaxy, they weren't forced to. If they wanted a game post-ME3 they could've just chose an ending, obviously Destroy would make the most sense, and continue from there. This would not have pissed off fans anymore than going to a new galaxy did, hell most people chose Destroy any way. But, I digress. The whole point of going to a new galaxy is to tell a new story with new characters and new conflicts. If the best they can do is reintroduce old species and conflicts from the OT then they have failed and should have just stayed in the MW. I don't care about the Quarians anymore, I got enough of them in the trilogy. I don't even need them at all in the Andromeda galaxy, why does every single MW race have to make the journey over. I thought the point of Andromeda, was once again, to go somewhere new and see new things. Not, to rehash the same races we encountered in the MW. Quarians aren't interesting anymore, they're old news. If Andromeda ever got a DLC I would hope it would introduce us to something new. Give us a new race, a new planet, maybe give us some insight into Kett society, whatever. Just make sure it's something new, unique to Andromeda and not once again banking off of the OT. Ok first off you just have been napping during the outrage from day zero (MEA announced) till launch. It was a constant "They better include *insert MW race here* or else!" Second when did Casey say that as I see nada. He knows better than anyone that it going back to the MW is not feasible. It would require canonization of an ending, something they said they would not do. It would receive more ire than Andromeda. Here are just two interviews (one before launch, one after launch) in which Casey talks about future Mass Effect titles and what else he'd like to see explored in their universe Casey Hudson Interview- Game InformerMass Effect Retrospective Panel PAX 2013It was the Montreal team and specifically Gerard Lehiany, creative director at that time, that chose to go to Andromeda because they wanted to theoretically build their own universe free from any constraints. Also, fans will always complain that they didn't get more of X or that X wasn't included, that's no reason to cave into pressure or change your entire vision for a game. If Montreal was honest about going to a new Galaxy then that means some races would have to be left behind. You can't have ALL the races from the MW and then try and add additional new races from the Andromeda galaxy on top. That would be confusing to new players and way too much work for the art department, not to mention the story concerns. Also, picking an ending doesn't "canonize" anything, it simply means that they are choosing to build off of one of the various endings. It doesn't mean that, that ending is "canon." Regardless, this doesn't change the fact that a new Galaxy should be about something new, not piggybacking off the nostalgia and success of the OT. I don't need Quarians in Andromeda or any of the other non-Council races.
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Post by Element Zero on Aug 19, 2017 17:28:38 GMT
First of all, I fundamentally disagree with the notion that future ME titles couldn't take place in the OT because of the ME3 ending. Casey was more than receptive to future ME titles, specifically ones within the MW. He repeatedly made notions about how cool and interesting it could be to just tell a story on the Citadel, post ME3. It was the Andromeda team that chose to go to a new galaxy, they weren't forced to. If they wanted a game post-ME3 they could've just chose an ending, obviously Destroy would make the most sense, and continue from there. This would not have pissed off fans anymore than going to a new galaxy did, hell most people chose Destroy any way. But, I digress. The whole point of going to a new galaxy is to tell a new story with new characters and new conflicts. If the best they can do is reintroduce old species and conflicts from the OT then they have failed and should have just stayed in the MW. I don't care about the Quarians anymore, I got enough of them in the trilogy. I don't even need them at all in the Andromeda galaxy, why does every single MW race have to make the journey over. I thought the point of Andromeda, was once again, to go somewhere new and see new things. Not, to rehash the same races we encountered in the MW. Quarians aren't interesting anymore, they're old news. If Andromeda ever got a DLC I would hope it would introduce us to something new. Give us a new race, a new planet, maybe give us some insight into Kett society, whatever. Just make sure it's something new, unique to Andromeda and not once again banking off of the OT. Ok first off you just have been napping during the outrage from day zero (MEA announced) till launch. It was a constant "They better include *insert MW race here* or else!" Second when did Casey say that as I see nada. He knows better than anyone that it going back to the MW is not feasible. It would require canonization of an ending, something they said they would not do. It would receive more ire than Andromeda. I, neither, have ever seen Casey promote the idea of post-trilogy games. Musing about stories that could be told in the setting is a different thing. [Edit: I'll check those links when I have time. Thanks!] Mass Effect was always supposed to be a trilogy. (I've seen people argue this of late; but I knew this at the time of release in 2007.) Casey spent the better part of a decade bringing this story to life. It was clear that ME3 was to be its end. EA naturally wanted to continue making money off of a successful IP, and many of us were likewise eager for more Mass Effect. That's why we got a new game. Casey himself was ready to do other things. He first moved to a different project, and then left BioWare altogether. BioWare gathered a lot of feedback on what fans would like to see in a future game. Prequels, concurrent stories and post-trilogy possibilities were all discussed. Fans overwhelmingly wanted a post-trilogy game. BioWare decided that they didn't want to canonize any decisions, so they latched onto the idea to move the setting to Andromeda. I personally would've preferred to keep the MW backdrop, since it's just as important to me as any other features of the setting. I couldn't care less which ending was canonized, as long as it was well handled. I know others felt/feel differently, though; and BioWare wisely tried to please the majority while also holding your their own conceits. We've already lost the near-future Milky Way backdrop. I'd not want to see the familiar species likewise lost. I'm not particularly a fan of the quarians, but they have a place in the setting. It's also important that they're inclusion makes every bit as much sense as any other species. It makes perfect sense to handle all of this type of stuff in the introductory Andromeda game. With the familiar peoples in place, we can move forward with the introduction of new peoples and stories in Andromeda. It's not as if MEA didn't introduce new material. Finding the MW arks and saving the future of our familiar species was a big part of the story. The central focus, though, was on the Angara-Kett-Remnant drama, which then led to the Jardaan-Opposition story. This game did a solid job of blending both. A DLC that finishes the process of bringing over our other MW species is logical and fitting. It's not as if no new or existing Andromeda stories can't be woven into such a narrative. I'm not sure we'll ever see such a thing, at this point, but it would've been nice.
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Post by Element Zero on Aug 19, 2017 17:34:55 GMT
Ok first off you just have been napping during the outrage from day zero (MEA announced) till launch. It was a constant "They better include *insert MW race here* or else!" Second when did Casey say that as I see nada. He knows better than anyone that it going back to the MW is not feasible. It would require canonization of an ending, something they said they would not do. It would receive more ire than Andromeda. Here are just two interviews (one before launch, one after launch) in which Casey talks about future Mass Effect titles and what else he'd like to see explored in their universe Casey Hudson Interview- Game InformerMass Effect Retrospective Panel PAX 2013It was the Montreal team and specifically Gerard Lehiany, creative director at that time, that chose to go to Andromeda because they wanted to theoretically build their own universe free from any constraints. Also, fans will always complain that they didn't get more of X or that X wasn't included, that's no reason to cave into pressure or change your entire vision for a game. If Montreal was honest about going to a new Galaxy then that means some races would have to be left behind. You can't have ALL the races from the MW and then try and add additional new races from the Andromeda galaxy on top. That would be confusing to new players and way too much work for the art department, not to mention the story concerns. Also, picking an ending doesn't "canonize" anything, it simply means that they are choosing to build off of one of the various endings. It doesn't mean that, that ending is "canon." Regardless, this doesn't change the fact that a new Galaxy should be about something new, not piggybacking off the nostalgia and success of the OT. I don't need Quarians in Andromeda or any of the other non-Council races. Thanks for the links. I'm in agreement with you regarding the silly "canon' argument, but a huge portion of the fanbase does not view it this way. BioWare ultimately makes the decision, and perhaps wisely chose not to chose any of the controversial endings. Likewise, your opinion that "we don't need" the old species to tell new stories makes sense, but isn't widely popular. For many, those species define Mass Effect. Different parts of a setting hold different levels of importance for different persons.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 19, 2017 18:10:25 GMT
Ok first off you just have been napping during the outrage from day zero (MEA announced) till launch. It was a constant "They better include *insert MW race here* or else!" Second when did Casey say that as I see nada. He knows better than anyone that it going back to the MW is not feasible. It would require canonization of an ending, something they said they would not do. It would receive more ire than Andromeda. Here are just two interviews (one before launch, one after launch) in which Casey talks about future Mass Effect titles and what else he'd like to see explored in their universe Casey Hudson Interview- Game InformerMass Effect Retrospective Panel PAX 2013It was the Montreal team and specifically Gerard Lehiany, creative director at that time, that chose to go to Andromeda because they wanted to theoretically build their own universe free from any constraints. Also, fans will always complain that they didn't get more of X or that X wasn't included, that's no reason to cave into pressure or change your entire vision for a game. If Montreal was honest about going to a new Galaxy then that means some races would have to be left behind. You can't have ALL the races from the MW and then try and add additional new races from the Andromeda galaxy on top. That would be confusing to new players and way too much work for the art department, not to mention the story concerns. Also, picking an ending doesn't "canonize" anything, it simply means that they are choosing to build off of one of the various endings. It doesn't mean that, that ending is "canon." Regardless, this doesn't change the fact that a new Galaxy should be about something new, not piggybacking off the nostalgia and success of the OT. I don't need Quarians in Andromeda or any of the other non-Council races. He never once said continuing post ME3. He mused about side stories that could be explored but it was just that. Musings. Casey himself said that ME3 was the end of the main story. Whoever pitched the idea is besides the point. I will contend that the new galaxy should mean new races and it did. The majority however believes that these races define ME. If they continue with Andromeda (they damn well better) you'll never get your wish.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 19, 2017 18:19:55 GMT
Wouldn't it be awesome if the Quarian Ark was under siege not by the Scourge or the Kett... but by some Geth that stowed away on their ship. Wouldn't there have to be a significant number of geth on this ark for this to apply? Legion was fairly unique, but other geth were very minimally intelligent unless linked into a network. Alternately, they'd have to have upgrades from the Reapers (which doesn't happen until ME3). Personally, I'd rather that conflict got let behind.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 19, 2017 18:26:40 GMT
Wouldn't it be awesome if the Quarian Ark was under siege not by the Scourge or the Kett... but by some Geth that stowed away on their ship. Wouldn't there have to be a significant number of geth on this ark for this to apply? Legion was fairly unique, but other geth were very minimally intelligent unless linked into a network. Alternately, they'd have to have upgrades from the Reapers (which doesn't happen until ME3). Personally, I'd rather that conflict got let behind. Yeah same. Now a Jardaan AI worming it's way into the ship...
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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 19, 2017 20:57:33 GMT
Wouldn't there have to be a significant number of geth on this ark for this to apply? Legion was fairly unique, but other geth were very minimally intelligent unless linked into a network. Alternately, they'd have to have upgrades from the Reapers (which doesn't happen until ME3). Personally, I'd rather that conflict got let behind. Yeah same. Now a Jardaan AI worming it's way into the ship... Or a Jardaan invasion which then gets "The Opposition" interested. I could see that as a reason to not want help from the A.I.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 19, 2017 21:01:34 GMT
Yeah same. Now a Jardaan AI worming it's way into the ship... Or a Jardaan invasion which then gets "The Opposition" interested. I could see that as a reason to not want help from the A.I. I'd go for that.
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Post by bossattack on Aug 19, 2017 21:41:47 GMT
Here are just two interviews (one before launch, one after launch) in which Casey talks about future Mass Effect titles and what else he'd like to see explored in their universe Casey Hudson Interview- Game InformerMass Effect Retrospective Panel PAX 2013It was the Montreal team and specifically Gerard Lehiany, creative director at that time, that chose to go to Andromeda because they wanted to theoretically build their own universe free from any constraints. Also, fans will always complain that they didn't get more of X or that X wasn't included, that's no reason to cave into pressure or change your entire vision for a game. If Montreal was honest about going to a new Galaxy then that means some races would have to be left behind. You can't have ALL the races from the MW and then try and add additional new races from the Andromeda galaxy on top. That would be confusing to new players and way too much work for the art department, not to mention the story concerns. Also, picking an ending doesn't "canonize" anything, it simply means that they are choosing to build off of one of the various endings. It doesn't mean that, that ending is "canon." Regardless, this doesn't change the fact that a new Galaxy should be about something new, not piggybacking off the nostalgia and success of the OT. I don't need Quarians in Andromeda or any of the other non-Council races. He never once said continuing post ME3. He mused about side stories that could be explored but it was just that. Musings. Casey himself said that ME3 was the end of the main story. Whoever pitched the idea is besides the point. I will contend that the new galaxy should mean new races and it did. The majority however believes that these races define ME. If they continue with Andromeda (they damn well better) you'll never get your wish. You're willfully ignoring what he directly states. Casey NEVER said that ME3 was the end of the "main story" he said it was the end of "Shepard's story," which makes sense. Whatever came after would be a new story that would not deal with Shepard or likely any of his crew mates because their story, as he saw it, concluded with the trilogy. He, and everyone else, built the universe to be home to hundreds of stories that could take place at any time. The ME universe is bigger than just Shepard. Casey was not opposed to stories continuing after ME3 in the Milky Way, the Montreal team chose themselves to leave the Milky Way. Now, when I first heard this news I was upset, everything I loved about ME is in the MW. But, looking back it was the right calls. A new galaxy was an opportunity to do something new and tell a new story, without any constraints, in a completely new galaxy while using small foundations set up in the OT. MEA, however, failed to capitalize on this concept. And, I'd hate for any possible future DLC or titles to waste the concept any further by retreading ground already covered in the OT. Why in hell would I want a DLC where me meet up with the Quarian Ark invaded by Jaardan AI? You're telling me we traveled millions of light years to witness another story of the Quarians v. a Synthetic race? Give me a break. As I said, I don't need the other MW species in Andromeda, we have enough already. What I want is to actually explore this new galaxy and see new things. New stories, new lore, new conflicts to become engaged in. I don't need to see the Quarians battle Synthetics, AGAIN. If your best idea for an expansion to Andromeda is to reintroduce something old then you have already failed.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 19, 2017 21:48:41 GMT
He never once said continuing post ME3. He mused about side stories that could be explored but it was just that. Musings. Casey himself said that ME3 was the end of the main story. Whoever pitched the idea is besides the point. I will contend that the new galaxy should mean new races and it did. The majority however believes that these races define ME. If they continue with Andromeda (they damn well better) you'll never get your wish. You're willfully ignoring what he directly states. Casey NEVER said that ME3 was the end of the "main story" he said it was the end of "Shepard's story," which makes sense. Whatever came after would be a new story that would not deal with Shepard or likely any of his crew mates because their story, as he saw it, concluded with the trilogy. He, and everyone else, built the universe to be home to hundreds of stories that could take place at any time. The ME universe is bigger than just Shepard. Casey was not opposed to stories continuing after ME3 in the Milky Way, the Montreal team chose themselves to leave the Milky Way. Now, when I first heard this news I was upset, everything I loved about ME is in the MW. But, looking back it was the right calls. A new galaxy was an opportunity to do something new and tell a new story, without any constraints, in a completely new galaxy while using small foundations set up in the OT. MEA, however, failed to capitalize on this concept. And, I'd hate for any possible future DLC or titles to waste the concept any further by retreading ground already covered in the OT. Why in hell would I want a DLC where me meet up with the Quarian Ark invaded by Jaardan AI? You're telling me we traveled millions of light years to witness another story of the Quarians v. a Synthetic race? Give me a break. As I said, I don't need the other MW species in Andromeda, we have enough already. What I want is to actually explore this new galaxy and see new things. New stories, new lore, new conflicts to become engaged in. I don't need to see the Quarians battle Synthetics, AGAIN. If your best idea for an expansion to Andromeda is to reintroduce something old then you have already failed. Agree to disagree.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 20, 2017 13:51:15 GMT
That would be rather boring gameplay though. Mmh perhaps the infection could be related to Scourge-corrupted Geth I agree now, that the reason they don't want to be rescused is because of a disease. The likely hood that Ryder will save the ark in the book is slim to none.
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