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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 0:58:54 GMT
All that said.. this is a bit crude, but
I would not rawdog a girl who did not know what I was doing and was ok with it. And had her own measures in place.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 1:00:41 GMT
Yeah, but there are some guys who get them because like me, they really don't want kids and get vasectomies to ensure that. If I ever want a healthy long term relationship with a guy he's going to have to also not want kids, and I might not be able to get myself sterilized because from what I've heard doctors won't sterilize women unless they're too old to have kids. So for me that's like 20 or 30 years in the future. I can make it with vibrator and porn, but I don't want to be a 40 or 50 year old virgin. It depends on the doctor. Not all of them are against it so shop around if you're serious. If you find one willing, try to get a salpingectomy to have both tubes removed entirely. This also removes the chance of ectopic pregnancy. And I'm trying to get a vasectomy soon. I don't want kids and would like to remove the risk of accidentally having them. Considering I live in the bible belt I might have to cross a few states for my search. I wish I didn't have to do all this, since I'm kinda afraid of the idea of surgery. But since my state won't allow women who have been raped to get an abortion, it would probably be safer if I did get it done. I certainly don't want a rape baby. |
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Oct 17, 2016 1:07:00 GMT
It depends on the doctor. Not all of them are against it so shop around if you're serious. If you find one willing, try to get a salpingectomy to have both tubes removed entirely. This also removes the chance of ectopic pregnancy. And I'm trying to get a vasectomy soon. I don't want kids and would like to remove the risk of accidentally having them. Considering I live in the bible belt I might have to cross a few states for my search. I wish I didn't have to do all this, since I'm kinda afraid of the idea of surgery. You certainly are afraid of a lot of things. Removing your ability to produce offspring just like that simply because there is a statistically minuscule chance of getting pregnant through a crime is quite frankly completely ridiculous.
People change, should you grow older and suddenly want to have a child / children you'll be a pretty damn sad fuck.
If you follow that kind of thought process and apply it to other areas in your life - oh boy.
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Post by crusty on Oct 17, 2016 1:12:14 GMT
What's with all this talk about vasectomies and the like? What happened to condoms and the pill?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 1:16:05 GMT
Considering I live in the bible belt I might have to cross a few states for my search. I wish I didn't have to do all this, since I'm kinda afraid of the idea of surgery. You certainly are afraid of a lot of things. Afraid of sugary: check. Afraid of unwanted pregnancy: check. Afraid of being raped: check. Afraid of getting pregnant by rape and the assholes in my state being "Oh, well f you. You have to carry the little rapist spawn for 8 months." : check. So far that's 4 things. I don't think these are illegitimate fears. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 1:18:53 GMT
Considering I live in the bible belt I might have to cross a few states for my search. I wish I didn't have to do all this, since I'm kinda afraid of the idea of surgery. You certainly are afraid of a lot of things. Removing your ability to produce offspring just like that simply because there is a statistically minuscule chance of getting pregnant through a crime is quite frankly completely ridiculous.
People change, should you grow older and suddenly want to have a child / children you'll be a pretty damn sad.
If you follow that kind of thought process and apply it to other areas in your life - oh boy.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Oct 17, 2016 1:19:05 GMT
You certainly are afraid of a lot of things. Afraid of sugary: check. Afraid of unwanted pregnancy: check. Afraid of being raped: check. Afraid of getting pregnant by rape and the assholes in my state being "Oh, well f you. You have to carry the little rapist spawn for 8 months." : check. So far that's 4 things. I don't think these are illegitimate fears. And how does this fear thing work out for you? If I want kids, I'll adopt. You want to raise the children of someone else? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 1:24:18 GMT
Afraid of sugary: check. Afraid of unwanted pregnancy: check. Afraid of being raped: check. Afraid of getting pregnant by rape and the assholes in my state being "Oh, well f you. You have to carry the little rapist spawn for 8 months." : check. So far that's 4 things. I don't think these are illegitimate fears. And how does this fear thing work out for you? It doesn't rule my life if that's what you're asking. I'm not being kept from going outside on the account of fearing that some guy will come up and rape me. But I don't want kids, at least none from my body, and I don't want to have to search back alleyways for a guy who knows how to work a coat hanger on the off chance that I do get pregnant. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 1:25:54 GMT
If I want kids, I'll adopt. You want to raise the children of someone else? You said people grow and people change. If I suddenly did want to raise children, I would adopt them. What's wrong with adoption? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 1:29:10 GMT
Afraid of sugary: check. Afraid of unwanted pregnancy: check. Afraid of being raped: check. Afraid of getting pregnant by rape and the assholes in my state being "Oh, well f you. You have to carry the little rapist spawn for 8 months." : check. So far that's 4 things. I don't think these are illegitimate fears. And how does this fear thing work out for you? If I want kids, I'll adopt. You want to raise the children of someone else? Her concerns are legitimate, why are you deriding her? And to some, i'm sure raising "some elses" child would be an acceptable option. |
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Oct 17, 2016 1:35:55 GMT
What's with all this talk about vasectomies and the like? What happened to condoms and the pill? I'm still trying to figure out what happened to pulling out. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 1:36:56 GMT
What's with all this talk about vasectomies and the like? What happened to condoms and the pill? Condoms aren't always effective and some women can't take the pill. Personally, I find it effects my stomach the way morning sickness does. It's kind of gross. Vasectomies are a good option for men who are really serious about not having kids, why not discuss them? |
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Oct 17, 2016 1:37:34 GMT
And how does this fear thing work out for you? You want to raise the children of someone else? Her concerns are legitimate, why are you deriding her? And to some, i'm sure raising "some elses" child would be an acceptable option. If you are afraid of being raped and becoming pregnant from it, despite the statistically low chances, you'd also have to take drastic actions for all those other dangers. Breast cancer kills a lot of people every year, though statistically the chances are very low for you that you'll develop breast cancer (lets assume you do not have an extreme genetic disposition for it) but you cannot be really sure. Wouldn't it be better to simply remove the breast tissue altogether right now? What I'm saying is, if you follow that train of thought there is a lot of drastic and extreme measures to do to prevent all the horrible things that could befall you in the future. Do you really want to lead such life? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 1:39:32 GMT
What's with all this talk about vasectomies and the like? What happened to condoms and the pill? I'm still trying to figure out what happened to pulling out. Really? That's not effective, there's always a chance of discharge. |
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Oct 17, 2016 1:40:32 GMT
What's with all this talk about vasectomies and the like? What happened to condoms and the pill? I'm still trying to figure out what happened to pulling out. Some of the semen can get out before you ejaculate. Veeery bad idea. |
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Post by crusty on Oct 17, 2016 1:41:47 GMT
What's with all this talk about vasectomies and the like? What happened to condoms and the pill? I'm still trying to figure out what happened to pulling out. Too risky. What's with all this talk about vasectomies and the like? What happened to condoms and the pill? Condoms aren't always effective and some women can't take the pill. Personally, I find it effects my stomach the way morning sickness does. It's kind of gross. Vasectomies are a good option for men who are really serious about not having kids, why not discuss them? Oh I don't mind the discussion. Just find it weird so many people are apparently viewing it as the first option instead of the last one. |
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Oct 17, 2016 1:41:51 GMT
Apparently i'm just too fucking skilled for all this plebeian nonsense
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Post by BamBam the Destroyer on Oct 17, 2016 1:42:35 GMT
Lolnope "Hey baby, its an awesome night. Come home with me, let's top off the night. One thing.. your tubes are busted, right?" And that's where you lose her interest...and it's no easier for women. Some guys get kinda persnickety if you question them about their potencey level and their opinion of getting snipped. The whole topic can be quite volitile, it's kinda sad. "Oh vivainadx, you look so delicious... I see you and just mmmmm-mmmmmm..... so cozy. Just one thing: Those things are tied, right?" (I'm sorry, I can't help myself with this.) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 1:46:13 GMT
Her concerns are legitimate, why are you deriding her? And to some, i'm sure raising "some elses" child would be an acceptable option. If you are afraid of being raped and becoming pregnant from it, despite the statistically low chances, you'd also have to take drastic actions for all those other dangers. Breast cancer kills a lot of people every year, statistically the chances are very low for you that you'll develop breast cancer but you cannot be really sure. Wouldn't it be better to simply remove the breast tissue altogether right now? What I'm saying is, if you follow that train of thought there is a lot of drastic and extreme measures to do to prevent all the horrible things that could befall you in the future. Do you really want to lead such life? Yeah, but she has a better idea of her situation and the risks around her. She may have good reason to be concerned, neither one of knows what her town/city is like, so you can't really criticize her decisions or opinions. Until you actually see what happens in her area, you can't judge. |
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Post by DomeWing333 on Oct 17, 2016 1:46:46 GMT
But I don't want kids, at least none from my body, and I don't want to have to search back alleyways for a guy who knows how to work a coat hanger on the off chance that I do get pregnant. In the unlikely event that you would be faced with such an awful scenario, you would just need a friend who's willing and able to drive you across state lines. You're not forced to choose between a major medical procedure now or a back alley abortion later. There are other options. I'll actually agree with Giant in cautioning against making needlessly drastic, irreversible decisions now. From what you've said, you seem pretty young. As difficult as it might be for you to imagine might now, it is possible that you would change your mind. That being said, it's of course your body and your decision. Best of luck either way. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 1:51:30 GMT
And that's where you lose her interest...and it's no easier for women. Some guys get kinda persnickety if you question them about their potencey level and their opinion of getting snipped. The whole topic can be quite volitile, it's kinda sad. "Oh vivainadx, you look so delicious... I see you and just mmmmm-mmmmmm..... so cozy. Just one thing: Those things are tied, right?" (I'm sorry, I can't help myself with this.) I never should've said anything...point taken.  |
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Oct 17, 2016 1:52:45 GMT
If you are afraid of being raped and becoming pregnant from it, despite the statistically low chances, you'd also have to take drastic actions for all those other dangers. Breast cancer kills a lot of people every year, statistically the chances are very low for you that you'll develop breast cancer but you cannot be really sure. Wouldn't it be better to simply remove the breast tissue altogether right now? What I'm saying is, if you follow that train of thought there is a lot of drastic and extreme measures to do to prevent all the horrible things that could befall you in the future. Do you really want to lead such life? Yeah, but she has a better idea of her situation and the risks around her. She may have good reason to be concerned, neither one of knows what her town/city is like, so you can't really criticize her decisions or opinions. Until you actually see what happens in her area, you can't judge. The fuck? If the place she is living in is so dangerous that rape and getting pregnant from it is a very serious danger that requires prevention via a complex surgery that will leave her infertile for the rest of her life - well, then I suggest using the surgery money to move. Because maybe the rape will involve not just getting pregnant but also getting killed. Which isn't such a rare thing as I've heard because a lot of those rapists seem to hate the idea of having their victims telling the police. Seriously, people nowadays find it hard to get their priorities straight. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 1:53:38 GMT
Her concerns are legitimate, why are you deriding her? And to some, i'm sure raising "some elses" child would be an acceptable option. If you are afraid of being raped and becoming pregnant from it, despite the statistically low chances, you'd also have to take drastic actions for all those other dangers. Breast cancer kills a lot of people every year, statistically the chances are very low for you that you'll develop breast cancer (lets assume you do not have a genetic disposition for it) but you cannot be really sure. Wouldn't it be better to simply remove the breast tissue altogether right now? What I'm saying is, if you follow that train of thought there is a lot of drastic and extreme measures to do to prevent all the horrible things that could befall you in the future. Do you really want to lead such life? I didn't bring getting tubes tied up just because of my fear of rape, but I note that not getting a rape baby would be an additional benefit. I more of brought it up on account that I could have consensual sex without having to worry about the condom breaking, or the female methods of birth control not working. Rape might be uncommon, but pregnancy isn't. It wouldn't necessarily have to be this way if I didn't have to worry about having to live in a state where the local law is controlled by fundamentalist Christians. But I don't know what state will have jobs for me, so I might have to live in a state where "we might let your get an abortion if its killing you, maybe." Also, a lot of rapes go unreported so I would really put much faith in rape statistics. |
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Post by BamBam the Destroyer on Oct 17, 2016 1:54:22 GMT
If you are afraid of being raped and becoming pregnant from it, despite the statistically low chances, you'd also have to take drastic actions for all those other dangers. Breast cancer kills a lot of people every year, statistically the chances are very low for you that you'll develop breast cancer (lets assume you do not have a genetic disposition for it) but you cannot be really sure. Wouldn't it be better to simply remove the breast tissue altogether right now? What I'm saying is, if you follow that train of thought there is a lot of drastic and extreme measures to do to prevent all the horrible things that could befall you in the future. Do you really want to lead such life? I didn't bring getting tubes tied up just because of my fear of rape, but I note that not getting a rape baby would be an additional benefit. I more of brought it up on account that I could have consensual sex without having to worry about the condom breaking, or the female methods of birth control not working. Rape might be uncommon, but pregnancy isn't. It wouldn't necessarily have to be this way if I didn't have to worry about having to live in a state where the local law is controlled by fundamentalist Christians. But I don't know what state will have jobs for me, so I might have to live in a state where "we might let your get an abortion if its killing you, maybe." Also, a lot of rapes go unreported so I would really put much faith in rape statistics. You could wear a chastity belt. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 1:59:51 GMT
I didn't bring getting tubes tied up just because of my fear of rape, but I note that not getting a rape baby would be an additional benefit. I more of brought it up on account that I could have consensual sex without having to worry about the condom breaking, or the female methods of birth control not working. Rape might be uncommon, but pregnancy isn't. It wouldn't necessarily have to be this way if I didn't have to worry about having to live in a state where the local law is controlled by fundamentalist Christians. But I don't know what state will have jobs for me, so I might have to live in a state where "we might let your get an abortion if its killing you, maybe." Also, a lot of rapes go unreported so I would really put much faith in rape statistics. You could wear a chastity belt.  ... really, Bam Bam .. ? You're gonna go there? |
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