The unpopular opinions thread.

I'll go anywhere sister. 

Gotta have some fun sometime.

It's not an irrational phobia, some people don't want kids why are trying to twist her opinion into some kind phobia? How bout you? You ever consider getting snipped?

So if I ever have an unwanted child, either from rape or from condom break. I'll just shove that poor fuck into an orphanage. I don't really know what its like to live in an orphanage, but whatever.

There's a time limit on how late they can perform an abortion. Usually 20 to 22 weeks. It's possible to not notice until it's too late, at which point she would either be forced to carry the baby to term, or fall down a flight of stairs onto a pile of coat hangers.

Find a doctor in another state that's willing to perform the surgery, schedule an appointment with them, then take a couple of days vacation to visit and get it done.

Tokophobia is a real thing, but you're still right. Sometimes children don't fit into a life style, some people lack the desire to have them, some make the deliberate choice not to have them even if they want kids. It's an individuals choice and no one should take that from them.

From my perspective, tube tying isn't really that much of a drastic procedure. Its not like having sex change. That would be drastic. Lone Shadow, are you sure you want to have a sausage swinging between your legs? But to me, having my tubes tied is just erasing a bunch of headaches. Oh no, the condom broke and I live in state where I can't get an abortion unless the baby is actively trying to kill me. Baby, I hope for both our sakes that you have a tiny knife to stab with, because you're probably not going to like the reality that will greet you if you get out alive and I'm not going be happy about being your mommy.

Maybe I'll just let child out into the wilderness where a wolf pack might find it and raise it as their own. Become one of those feral children who will grow up to be my state's new local legend. Legends says that the mother, unable to get an abortion, had left her child here and that child was taken in by wolves. Now, he roams the woods, attacking people and eating them. He is the Backwoods Cannibal and he is going eat you!

But I don't want to have kids and if suddenly change my mind, which I'm doubtful of but it could happen, then I'm not stopped from adopting a kid. Really from my perspective their are only up sides to this. Sure I won't experience the miracle of childbirth, but uh, fuck that, that's only an additional upper for me.
Maybe not for some, but for I'm just missing its the equivalent of missing the fantastic opportunity of having my head slammed against the wall over a dozen times. My life will be so empty that I missed the chance of experiencing a concussions.

To be clear, I'm not a fan of abortion.  I said this quite some time ago.  But I understand people's rights to their own body.  And I hate the idea of anyone forcing another person to do something against their will.  So it is your body, and therefore your choice.

All that said, here in NY, abortions are legal.  At least I think they are.  And in NYC, unemployment isn't that high (last I checked).  So you might be able to find a job there.  What field are you in?  We might be able to point you to a state where you could find work, and have control of your body.

My partner has had the snip, neither of us has ever wanted kids and it was a choice between invasive hospital based surgery (which I would have to beg multiple doctors for and only get if I was very lucky) vs a quick 20min no questions asked doctors appointment at the local GP. We went with the snip.

I have always known I didn't want children from a very young age, and 40 years later nothing has changed. All my life I have had to deal with most people who find out doing the "oh you are so young, you will change you're mind, if you don't you'll regret it" thing. (I don't advertise it, but a woman with no kids stands out and questions are asked).

I think a lot of people don't realise the certainty that can come with knowing you don't want children and the kind of bollocks that has comes my way over the years would never fly going in the opposite direction. "oh you just had a baby, but you are so young, you'll regret it you know and there's no getting rid of it now"

The Africans and Middle Eastern people don't think so! They themselves can add 2 billion to the world's population by 2050 while some western or Asian countries are dying and will be replaced by less civilized people (if not culturally-socially reformed).

I agree. When there is a greater than zero chance you'll regret it. Some people know they won't regret it. And yet we are still told by people that "know better" that we don't know ourselves as well as they do.

I have wanted nothing to do with children my entire life. The connection just isn't there, the desire isn't there. It is never going to be there. If there is one thing I'm certain of in my life, it's that.

I understand the desire to stop people from making what could potentially be a bad decision. But there are some things that you have to just step back from and trust that they know what they're doing.

I wish you all the best, @theloneshadow. Hope things work out for you.

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I don't "know better". I know that I don't know what I may or may not want ten or twenty years down the line. Ten years ago I was dead certain I wanted to be a lawyer. Twenty years ago I was certain I wanted to be a pokemon. One of those is a lie.

The point is, wisdom doesn't come from knowing, it comes from knowing what you don't know. And planning accordingly. It's not about children, it's not about desire, it's about not permanently messing with one's body and facing all sorts of reprecussions now or down the line that were not necessary.

It makes no difference to me whether someone has children or not, gets a tattoo, sterilizes themselves, or cuts off their own arm. I'm not responsible for someone else's decisions. But certain actions are wise, some are neutral and some are decidedly unwise. Something that permanently alters you and carries a greater than zero chance of regret or unforseen side effects is firmly in the latter camp.

In any case, perhaps it's time to move on. I believe we've said our piece and this discussion is starting to derail the thread. Those interested in dicussing it further should take it to PM or to an appropriate thread.

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