Do you use Bulwark and Concussive ?

I can understand that.

...nonetheless, the MEAMP is health based game so vampiric ability is really too good.

Especially with those kits such as soldier that deals more gun damage and have that 200% DR at low health......

We all draw the line of acceptable silliness at different places. This is mine. I acknowledge that it's arbitrary and don't intend to defend it beyond what I've already said.

We use bulwark/Siphon when speed running Zero. Helps a lot but Concussive can eat a bag of dicks. All my UR variants are lol Concussive

I will occasionally bust out Bulwark on Hacks but usually I wonder if I am gimping myself and the team by doing so.

Concussive is unusable off-host due to unreliability of weakpoint registration.

I did that too with the KroMerc. Would be great if they gave me the Siphon instead of the Concussive Soned.

No, not always. If I'm expecting to prime with ammo, variant weapons are not a good choice.


Yes, Bulwark can be useful at those times.

The thing is, I never know at load-out time what kind of objectives we'll get or whether the other pugs in the lobby will ever camp or stay together at all.

Bulwark weapons would be much more attractive if they provided DR at all times, and perhaps extended to teammates within a radius.


Yep.

When I first drew a concussive weapon, I did take it out on a gig. Made some purdy 'splosions. No other enemies in range of those 'splosions, though, so it was ultimately pointless. I haven't bothered with them since.

But since, in the free-for-all, "enemies everywhere!" environment that is MEAMP, I sometimes find survival to be a challenge, the Siphon weapons are quite useful to me, so I use them most of the time.

Siphon and Bulwark strike me as 2 different ways to achieve the same end goal (survival).

Bulwark has the disadvantage of requiring teammate proximity.

Siphon has the disadvantage of requiring the player to do some weapon damage (Bulwark provides DR when it's equipped).

Which is preferable is conditional.

But, like a lot of other things, I'm sure it's much more clear for those who play with known groups than those of us who pug sans mike.

I've only used the Cyclone siphon so far, and I thought it was OK. I'd only use concussive on sniper rifles if I was hosting. I'm looking forward to getting a (useful) bulwark weapon to a useable level, and trying that out.

I tried Cyclone Siphon too. It`s ok but  does not significantly help you.


I don`t have a lot of siphon weapons.. but the best one I have so far right now is Ruzad Siphon for sure.

This thing heals significant amount of health everytime I land right shot.

Might have a try with that tonight.  I think I've got that around 5 or 6.

Think they could do with adding some minor stat additions. Bulkwark: extra ammo, Concussive: more power damage, Siphon: accuracy(?)