Everything done wrong with MEA:MP - a community anthology (prep for eulogy) Edit: right/good also w

Cooperation is lame.  Mass Effect has never been that kind of game.

Well it at least did a few things right between all the shortcomings, or else you people wouldn't still be here. The hating on the game, or the devs is a bit too passionate for people to just bury it as a failure nobody will ever discuss again. There are many parallels between the backlash on Andromeda and on Mass Effect 3's ending.
I'm not defending 1.09: It's one of those not well thought-true additions which must have looked brilliant on paper. And for many people here it seems that it was the final nail in the coffIN, foregoing all hope that things would improve.

Personally I'm just pissed off about last Saturday's news, because it will have it's resonance on multiplayer as well (and I am one out of three people actually enjoying the campaign).

It is a possibility that you list both the wrongs and the rights though. I would approve of that...

The enemies and weapons are both terribly designed.

Here, under leave of Bioware and the rest --
For Bioware is an honorable company;
So are they all, all honorable companies --
Come I to speak in Andromeda's funeral.
It was my game, awesome and fun to me:
But Bioware says it was ambitious;
And Bioware is an honorable company.

Bioware hath brought many games home to Xbox
Whose pre-orders did the general coffers fill:
Did this in Andromeda seem ambitious?
When that the poor have cried [over the RNG store], Andromeda hath added 2,000 more items wept:
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff:
Yet Bioware says the game was ambitious;
And Bioware is an honorable company.

You all did see that on the fan forums,
I thrice presented Andromeda a 5-star rating,
Yet it did thrice refuse: was this ambition?
Yet Bioware says the game was ambitious;
And, sure, Bioware is an honorable company.

But here I am to speak what I do know.
You all did love the game once, not without cause:
What cause withholds you, then, to mourn for it?
O judgment! thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason. Bear with me;
My heart is in the coffin there with Andromeda,
And I must pause till it come back to me.

Here, under leave of Bioware and the rest --
For Bioware is an honorable company;
So are they all, all honorable companies --
Come I to speak in Andromeda's funeral.
It was my game, awesome and fun to me:
But Bioware says it was ambitious;
And Bioware is an honorable company.

Bioware hath brought many games home to Xbox
Whose pre-orders did the general coffers fill:
Did this in Andromeda seem ambitious?
When that the poor have cried [over the RNG store], Andromeda hath added 2,000 more items wept:
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff:
Yet Bioware says the game was ambitious;
And Bioware is an honorable company.

You all did see that on the fan forums,
I thrice presented Andromeda a 5-star rating,
Yet it did thrice refuse: was this ambition?
Yet Bioware says the game was ambitious;
And, sure, Bioware is an honorable company.

But here I am to speak what I do know.
You all did love the game once, not without cause:
What cause withholds you, then, to mourn for it?
O judgment! thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason. Bear with me;
My heart is in the coffin there with Andromeda,
And I must pause till it come back to me.

I find more cooperation in Andromeda. People are more likely to stick together because of combos, and will revive way more often in pugs. Overall, I see way more awareness of the rules and objectives. As far as pugs go, I can't say enough good things about Andromeda players, tbh. Now, if you are looking for a higher level of cooperation, more like dungeon style one, I think microphone and premade group is where you'll find it.

Again, that's playing on scrub difficulties, Gold and under. I catch parts of your conversations about platinum, and, well, in my experience, the harder it is to succeed, the more likely folks to feel that they do not get enough support from others to shine.

I'm not sure if you were responding to me directly but it seemed as if you were, though I had quit before Platinum made its appearance so have no opinions on it.  But to be clear, my concerns about lack of co-op had nothing to do with difficulty - the only games I failed were due to pre-1.06 BS. I don't agree that a microphone or pre-made group should ever be any kind of requirement, and can still count the number of sessions where I've used a mic on my fingers. I never used one in MEA and I never heard anyone else either. That's simply not part of the equation. I accept that you've had different experiences and am genuinely happy for you, but most evidence points to you being in a tiny minority. You may have lower standards, lower expectations overall, or simply be an incredibly positive, optimistic person - the polar opposite of a grumpy old git like me, for whom MEA is probably the most disappointing game I've played in over 30 years. I hated the campaign for more reasons than I would wish to get into in the MP section, but had some hopes the MP would save it. It didn't even come close. It is, with every ounce of Irish ire I can convey, a load of shite. I was bored earlier and worked out that my cost per hour played is 32p - more than 10 times ME3 (and ME2), which I also pre-ordered and went on to buy all dlc and spent at least £100 in the store. EA/Bioware got £62 off me for MEA, and it is undoubtedly the last of my cash they'll ever see. Butthurt much? You better believe it.

I take my hat off to JRandall0308 , who I have witnessed banging his head against a proverbial brick wall for a number of months. The Bard of BSN would no doubt be able to sum up my reaction to MEA quite nicely - How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child.

FWIW, in Bioware's opinion at least, the game is meant to be played co-op with coordinated groups. That may not reflect the reality of how it *is* being played, but that is their design intent.

Source: a bunch of stuff they've said on streams that I have internalized... feeling too lazy to dig up quotes at the moment.

P.S. Thanks GruntKitterhand for the 'Bard of BSN' moniker. If only I weren't already the 'Asker of Questions'!

The three people was not meant as a literal three. People like you and me who actually like it, appear to be severely outnumbered by all those who actually hate it because it doesn't suit their tastes, or those who hate it because it's the new "cool" (but didn't even try it more than 15 minutes).

But I also think you're right that people were starting to come around. The same thing happened with ME3, and only more so after a bunch of DLCs...

Could Single/Multiplayer DLC have saved the game? Probably in a way yes, but early abandoners won't have bothered.