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Post by krighaur on Sept 4, 2017 16:46:04 GMT
Have you ever worked on a large project ? If yes you should know that a planning is evolutive and it's not necessarily an indication of a bad project. If you miss a deadline, there's something seriously off. Take it from someone who produced print products for the better part of 20 years. Same as with other projects, you don't name a publication date, just to delay it later on. Unless you ran into serious trouble. If you were in EA management, and knowing you were criticized for releasing MEA in an unfinished state (please don't extract this to pretend I said MEA was unfinished), and knowing you just made an announce (no DLC) which infuriated a bit more some people. Would you 1 - stick to the release date announced monthes ago ? OR 2 - take time to review your work ? Note that if you respond 1, you just ask that EA does what he was criticized for some monthes ago..
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Post by traks on Sept 4, 2017 17:02:52 GMT
Just for information: it is the other way around. "Lost Ark" was the working title we got from a catalog from Titan Books in 2016 before the official announcement. Since the announcement in December 2016 the book is titled "Mass Effect Annihilation" and will be released under that name. What you can still find - and why there is confusion - are Amazon pages with the working title still in place. We have gone over this already a lot of times. Check here (and click on the image): bsn.boards.net/thread/2894/effect-andromeda-books-comics-uprising?page=8&scrollTo=100186And here (to see the text): bsn.boards.net/post/100229/threadWhat I take from this is a) the story of the Quarian Ark was always meant to be told through a book (remember the in-game sentence: "we have to trust THEIR pathfinder") and the reason for that is simply that you don't have Quarians in MEA, but want them in a possible sequel, so you gotta bridge that information gap. This has nothing to do though with whether any DLC was planned or not. Just my personal opinion: bringing Quarians in via DLC wouldn't have been interesting, because we are in a new galaxy, so introducing new planets or new foes would've been much better (and much more in line with the DLCs we got for the other games). Whether they had any plans for that: who knows? I'm also not sure what there could be to add now (though maybe Mac Walters is indeed currently writing something for the book), because the book won't tell anything out of the Pathfinder's point of view. So I doubt that any "Pathfinder content" will be put in the book and we surely won't get anything that was meant for a sequel (Kett empire, Jardaan, Benefactor). So why the delay fron Summer 2017 to December 2017? Also it is worth noting that ONLY Lost Ark was delayed, Initiation os releasing as intended. I have no idea and honestly, I don't really care. All I did was providing the information that the book title changed from "Lost Ark" to "ME Annihilation" in December 2016 instead of your claim that it was recently renamed the other way around and therefore the title of the book should IMO not be part of any conspiracy theory that anything that would've been delivered in game will now be delivered in a book. In-game is the protagonist's story and we won't get any of that in a novel, so really, it doesn't matter to me.But to help theorize what could be added (if it's not simply a delay - although these things happen): Mac Walters was initially slated to write a fourth book in this series, but pulled out because he was too busy in his new role as creative lead for Andromeda. Now his name came up as a co-writer if I'm not mistaken, so maybe - because with no DLC work he has time in his schedule again - some of the stuff initially planned for a fourth book gets added into the third novel as final chapters to put them in a better position to plan for the future of the franchise. Wild speculation - I know - but as I said in my first sentence, I have no idea and don't really care. It's just tiresome to read wild speculation and all the whining (wooohooo, they will put the rest of the game in a novel) based on false facts, so I thought I would chime in to at least correct the false stuff reported. Whether everyone wants to ignore that and stay within the theme "BioWare is sooo bad, because they now want us to read books instead of playing a game" - I don't know. That's up to you guys.
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Post by abaris on Sept 4, 2017 17:03:48 GMT
2 - take time to review your work ? Note that if you respond 1, you just ask that EA does what he was criticized for some monthes ago.. In short, run into serious trouble. You don't delay if you're convinced your product is good.
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Post by krighaur on Sept 4, 2017 17:18:08 GMT
2 - take time to review your work ? Note that if you respond 1, you just ask that EA does what he was criticized for some monthes ago.. In short, run into serious trouble. You don't delay if you're convinced your product is good. So you respond 1, I guess ... just demonstrating that you accuse EA of doing things you then blame it not to do .... very logical You place EA in a lose/lose situation ... it's your right, at last admit you do so. I
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 4, 2017 17:33:04 GMT
Well, prepared right crow can actually taste quite good so maybe they want everyone to have a good meal. So wht the delay? And no delay for Initiation? What does this have to do with my post? I was just talking about crows.
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Post by majesticjazz on Sept 4, 2017 18:22:50 GMT
Have you ever worked on a large project ? If yes you should know that a planning is evolutive and it's not necessarily an indication of a bad project. If you miss a deadline, there's something seriously off. Take it from someone who produced print products for the better part of 20 years. Same as with other projects, you don't name a publication date, just to delay it later on. Unless you ran into serious trouble. I wonder what serious trouble EA came across?
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Post by krighaur on Sept 4, 2017 18:37:00 GMT
If you miss a deadline, there's something seriously off. Take it from someone who produced print products for the better part of 20 years. Same as with other projects, you don't name a publication date, just to delay it later on. Unless you ran into serious trouble. I wonder what serious trouble EA came across? Why didn't you respond when I quoted your post ? Why didn't you saw that Abaris logic is flawed (please reread attentively the posts above).
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Post by linksocarina on Sept 4, 2017 18:59:39 GMT
Well I could have told you that...
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Post by river82 on Sept 4, 2017 21:05:40 GMT
If you miss a deadline, there's something seriously off. Take it from someone who produced print products for the better part of 20 years. Same as with other projects, you don't name a publication date, just to delay it later on. Unless you ran into serious trouble. If you were in EA management, and knowing you were criticized for releasing MEA in an unfinished state (please don't extract this to pretend I said MEA was unfinished), and knowing you just made an announce (no DLC) which infuriated a bit more some people. Would you 1 - stick to the release date announced monthes ago ? OR 2 - take time to review your work ? Note that if you respond 1, you just ask that EA does what he was criticized for some monthes ago.. It doesn't take long to review a book, what takes time are rewrites and edits (different from proofs.) So if the release date has been pushed back more than a week or so, it's because a) they're adding stuff or it wasn't ready for publication. And whether it's ready for publication or not has nothing to do with the response to ME:A, unless you were half-arsing the book originally and now they think they'd better not. But I really doubt they'd do that.
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Post by abaris on Sept 4, 2017 21:22:58 GMT
It doesn't take long to review a book, what takes time are rewrites and edits (different from proofs.) So if the release date has been pushed back more than a week or so, it's because a) they're adding stuff or it wasn't ready for publication. Exactly. A rewrite seems to be the most probable cause. After the announcement they had to make ends meet.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Sept 9, 2017 1:53:54 GMT
That's not the point. BSN can be stupid enough to believe that EA would simply abandon a game that was profitable for then, it doesn't work like that. They didn't make the game for the fans, they made for the money, and the sequel would follow the same path, for obvious reasons, it's not happening anytime soon. Dead Space 3 was considered a game that sunk the franchise, yet It got single player DLC. The fact it got DLC and ME: A a more profitible franchise did not seems to me that EA wanted to relocate its resources after the game was finished. Dead Space didn't gather half the toxicity MEA had. First, you said BioWare would release DLC because the game was profitable, and now, you say they never intended in the first place, a first in ages, do you even realize how non-sensical you sound?
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Post by majesticjazz on Sept 9, 2017 11:24:45 GMT
Dead Space 3 was considered a game that sunk the franchise, yet It got single player DLC. The fact it got DLC and ME: A a more profitible franchise did not seems to me that EA wanted to relocate its resources after the game was finished. Dead Space didn't gather half the toxicity MEA had. First, you said BioWare would release DLC because the game was profitable, and now, you say they never intended in the first place, a first in ages, do you even realize how non-sensical you sound? Agree, but I have already made peace with the idea that some people here will defend MEA no matter what. They will try ti divert any time of negative news for MEA as something neutral. More like the glass being half full instead of half empty. In their mind, they will not allow the narrative that MEA was a failure run unchallenged. So for them it is much easier to believe that MEA not getting DLC wasnt cause of its failure/review scores/reception, but rather something that EA planned well before MEA released. In the case of smilesja and company, it is a matter of continuously changing the narrative to something that is positive for MEA. First it wad MEA was a successful game and EA will not miss out on the profit to be made so there will be DLC and Jason S. is wrong and looking for clicks. Now it is MEA was successful, but EA just wants to focus on Anthem and this decision was made before release. So MEA could have crushed DAI in sales and review scores and could have been hailed as the best Bioware game ever made and a runaway candidate for GOTY.....and EA would still not do DLC cause....Anthem. At least with people like us, our narrative remains the same today as it was back in April/May, which is that MEA was not the game it could have been and will not receive DLC anf most likely will not recieve a direct sequel.
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Post by krighaur on Sept 9, 2017 12:10:38 GMT
Dead Space didn't gather half the toxicity MEA had. First, you said BioWare would release DLC because the game was profitable, and now, you say they never intended in the first place, a first in ages, do you even realize how non-sensical you sound? Agree, but I have already made peace with the idea that some people here will defend MEA no matter what. They will try ti divert any time of negative news for MEA as something neutral. More like the glass being half full instead of half empty. In their mind, they will not allow the narrative that MEA was a failure run unchallenged. So for them it is much easier to believe that MEA not getting DLC wasnt cause of its failure/review scores/reception, but rather something that EA planned well before MEA released. In the case of smilesja and company, it is a matter of continuously changing the narrative to something that is positive for MEA. First it wad MEA was a successful game and EA will not miss out on the profit to be made so there will be DLC and Jason S. is wrong and looking for clicks. Now it is MEA was successful, but EA just wants to focus on Anthem and this decision was made before release. So MEA could have crushed DAI in sales and review scores and could have been hailed as the best Bioware game ever made and a runaway candidate for GOTY.....and EA would still not do DLC cause....Anthem. At least with people like us, our narrative remains the same today as it was back in April/May, which is that MEA was not the game it could have been and will not receive DLC anf most likely will not recieve a direct sequel. I don't have to make peace with people who attack MEA, because, contrary to you, I was never at war. Now, amen, rest in peace with your idea that you are right and those who don't think like you are wrong, at last it makes you happy and that's a good thing.
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Post by samhain444 on Sept 9, 2017 14:55:35 GMT
Agree, but I have already made peace with the idea that some people here will defend MEA no matter what. They will try ti divert any time of negative news for MEA as something neutral. More like the glass being half full instead of half empty. In their mind, they will not allow the narrative that MEA was a failure run unchallenged. So for them it is much easier to believe that MEA not getting DLC wasnt cause of its failure/review scores/reception, but rather something that EA planned well before MEA released. In the case of smilesja and company, it is a matter of continuously changing the narrative to something that is positive for MEA. First it wad MEA was a successful game and EA will not miss out on the profit to be made so there will be DLC and Jason S. is wrong and looking for clicks. Now it is MEA was successful, but EA just wants to focus on Anthem and this decision was made before release. So MEA could have crushed DAI in sales and review scores and could have been hailed as the best Bioware game ever made and a runaway candidate for GOTY.....and EA would still not do DLC cause....Anthem. At least with people like us, our narrative remains the same today as it was back in April/May, which is that MEA was not the game it could have been and will not receive DLC anf most likely will not recieve a direct sequel. I don't have to make peace with people who attack MEA, because, contrary to you, I was never at war. Now, amen, rest in peace with your idea that you are right and those who don't think like you are wrong, at last it makes you happy and that's a good thing. Did someone send them their prize for "self-proclaimed most consistent narrative on a message board" or is that still in the nomination phase?
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Post by majesticjazz on Sept 9, 2017 15:16:37 GMT
Agree, but I have already made peace with the idea that some people here will defend MEA no matter what. They will try ti divert any time of negative news for MEA as something neutral. More like the glass being half full instead of half empty. In their mind, they will not allow the narrative that MEA was a failure run unchallenged. So for them it is much easier to believe that MEA not getting DLC wasnt cause of its failure/review scores/reception, but rather something that EA planned well before MEA released. In the case of smilesja and company, it is a matter of continuously changing the narrative to something that is positive for MEA. First it wad MEA was a successful game and EA will not miss out on the profit to be made so there will be DLC and Jason S. is wrong and looking for clicks. Now it is MEA was successful, but EA just wants to focus on Anthem and this decision was made before release. So MEA could have crushed DAI in sales and review scores and could have been hailed as the best Bioware game ever made and a runaway candidate for GOTY.....and EA would still not do DLC cause....Anthem. At least with people like us, our narrative remains the same today as it was back in April/May, which is that MEA was not the game it could have been and will not receive DLC anf most likely will not recieve a direct sequel. I don't have to make peace with people who attack MEA, because, contrary to you, I was never at war. Now, amen, rest in peace with your idea that you are right and those who don't think like you are wrong, at last it makes you happy and that's a good thing. I wasnt referring to you. Just those who feel to create a narrative that MEA wasnt a failure. Example: Myself and MANY others outside of BSN said that based on the review scores, reception, and the Kotaku article, EA will not give MEA SP DLC content. The counter argument was that EA was pleased with MEA and given EA's style, they would not abandon a game that sold well and they are satisfied with, thus, DLC is coming. And if it is delayed, it is only because they were using resources first to patch up the game. Now that it is confirmed that no SP DLC is incoming, the understanding from myself and MANY others here and outside of BSN is just a confirmation of what we have ALWAYS been saying since April, which is that MEA is too toxic of a game and EA will just cut their losses, cash in, and just move onto DA4, Athem, and other projects. The confirmation of no SP DLC confirmed our beliefs. Instead of just admitting that they were wrong, the new counter argument to that is that EA had always planned that MEA would not get SP DLC content even if it averaged 98% review scores, sold 40 million units in 2 weeks, and is hailed as the best RPG of all time. EA would still not do SP DLC cause they wanted to focus on Anthem. Again, Like Andrewlucas said..... ....First, you said BioWare would release DLC because the game was profitable, and now, you say they never intended in the first place...do you even realize how non-sensical you sound?
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Post by krighaur on Sept 9, 2017 15:43:56 GMT
I don't have to make peace with people who attack MEA, because, contrary to you, I was never at war. Now, amen, rest in peace with your idea that you are right and those who don't think like you are wrong, at last it makes you happy and that's a good thing. I wasnt referring to you. Just those who feel to create a narrative that MEA wasnt a failure. Example: Myself and MANY others outside of BSN said that based on the review scores, reception, and the Kotaku article, EA will not give MEA SP DLC content. The counter argument was that EA was pleased with MEA and given EA's style, they would not abandon a game that sold well and they are satisfied with, thus, DLC is coming. And if it is delayed, it is only because they were using resources first to patch up the game. Now that it is confirmed that no SP DLC is incoming, the understanding from myself and MANY others here and outside of BSN is just a confirmation of what we have ALWAYS been saying since April, which is that MEA is too toxic of a game and EA will just cut their losses, cash in, and just move onto DA4, Athem, and other projects. The confirmation of no SP DLC confirmed our beliefs. Instead of just admitting that they were wrong, the new counter argument to that is that EA had always planned that MEA would not get SP DLC content even if it averaged 98% review scores, sold 40 million units in 2 weeks, and is hailed as the best RPG of all time. EA would still not do SP DLC cause they wanted to focus on Anthem. Again, Like Andrewlucas said..... ....First, you said BioWare would release DLC because the game was profitable, and now, you say they never intended in the first place...do you even realize how non-sensical you sound? You don't like the game, you think EA and Bioware did a bad job ... I have no problem with that. I understand your opinion and don't want to change it. What I don't like is the "myself and MANY". You must accept that those who don't view MEA like you can also say "myself and MANY". Nobody has the exact proportion of people thinking like you and people thinking like what you fight. So both side can claim there are most that the other side. And as we are on a Bioware fan forum, it's natural that fans feel outraged when their favorite game company is attacked constantly, as if every small part of the game, or every company actions should be dissected in order to show how bad the game is. One example : there is a huge drama about Hainley for a single sentence !!! Isn't all the drama over-exaggerated ? Even if the sentence offend you ... it's one sentence in the middle of thousand other sentences from an NPC you can ignore !
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Post by majesticjazz on Sept 9, 2017 15:48:53 GMT
I wasnt referring to you. Just those who feel to create a narrative that MEA wasnt a failure. Example: Myself and MANY others outside of BSN said that based on the review scores, reception, and the Kotaku article, EA will not give MEA SP DLC content. The counter argument was that EA was pleased with MEA and given EA's style, they would not abandon a game that sold well and they are satisfied with, thus, DLC is coming. And if it is delayed, it is only because they were using resources first to patch up the game. Now that it is confirmed that no SP DLC is incoming, the understanding from myself and MANY others here and outside of BSN is just a confirmation of what we have ALWAYS been saying since April, which is that MEA is too toxic of a game and EA will just cut their losses, cash in, and just move onto DA4, Athem, and other projects. The confirmation of no SP DLC confirmed our beliefs. Instead of just admitting that they were wrong, the new counter argument to that is that EA had always planned that MEA would not get SP DLC content even if it averaged 98% review scores, sold 40 million units in 2 weeks, and is hailed as the best RPG of all time. EA would still not do SP DLC cause they wanted to focus on Anthem. Again, Like Andrewlucas said..... You don't like the game, you think EA and Bioware did a bad job ... I have no problem with that. I understand your opinion and don't want to change it. What I don't like is the "myself and MANY". You must accept that those who don't view MEA like you can also say "myself and MANY". Nobody has the exact proportion of people thinking like you and people thinking like what you fight. So both side can claim there are most that the other side. And as we are on a Bioware fan forum, it's natural that fans feel outraged when their favorite game company is attacked constantly, as if every small part of the game, or every company actions should be dissected in order to show how bad the game is. One example : there is a huge drama about Hainley for a single sentence !!! Isn't all the drama over-exaggerated ? Even if the sentence offend you ... it's one sentence in the middle of thousand other sentences from an NPC you can ignore ! Im not attacking people for liking the game. I am just calling out those who just a few weeks ago were saying that EA would bring SP DLC cause they were pleased with the game and it sold well snd EA likes more profits. Now they changed their tune to DLC isnt profitable for EA and they never planned to do SP DLC in the first place regardless of how successful the game was. I am not calling them out for liking the game, just calling them out on their consistently changing narrative regarding DLC.
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Post by smilesja on Sept 9, 2017 17:15:49 GMT
Dead Space 3 was considered a game that sunk the franchise, yet It got single player DLC. The fact it got DLC and ME: A a more profitible franchise did not seems to me that EA wanted to relocate its resources after the game was finished. Dead Space didn't gather half the toxicity MEA had. First, you said BioWare would release DLC because the game was profitable, and now, you say they never intended in the first place, a first in ages, do you even realize how non-sensical you sound? That's I what I thought based on what EA did in the past. As much as you want it to be ME: A isn't as toxic as you think at least compared to the ME3 endings.
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Post by majesticjazz on Sept 9, 2017 17:28:15 GMT
Dead Space didn't gather half the toxicity MEA had. First, you said BioWare would release DLC because the game was profitable, and now, you say they never intended in the first place, a first in ages, do you even realize how non-sensical you sound? That's I what I thought based on what EA did in the past. As much as you want it to be ME: A isn't as toxic as you think at least compared to the ME3 endings. But many people who hate the ME3 ending still believe everything else in the game was fine. MEA on the other hand is different. It isnt the ending people are disgruntled about but rather the entire game. Second, MEA was supposed to turn the page away from the toxic reception Bioware had with the ME3 ending and reset. Instead, MEA just made things worse and pretty much damaged the brand.
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Post by abaris on Sept 9, 2017 17:29:13 GMT
That's I what I thought based on what EA did in the past. As much as you want it to be ME: A isn't as toxic as you think at least compared to the ME3 endings. And it was only the endings. Not the whole game. And much of the toxicity has been taken out by them publishing the EC. In any case, they obviously had their data based on market research.
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Post by smilesja on Sept 9, 2017 17:32:08 GMT
That's I what I thought based on what EA did in the past. As much as you want it to be ME: A isn't as toxic as you think at least compared to the ME3 endings. And it was only the endings. Not the whole game. And much of the toxicity has been taken out by them publishing the EC. In any case, they obviously had their data based on market research. There were a vocal amount of people who dislike a lot of aspects of ME3 and consider it a bad RPG. It was just buried under the ending outrage.
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Post by majesticjazz on Sept 9, 2017 17:35:32 GMT
And it was only the endings. Not the whole game. And much of the toxicity has been taken out by them publishing the EC. In any case, they obviously had their data based on market research. There were a vocal amount of people who dislike a lot of aspects of ME3 and consider it a bad RPG. It was just buried under the ending outrage. As there were for ME2 and ME1 and DAO. However those games still reviewed well. And ME3 wasnt Bioware's lowest reviewed game, but MEA is. And like I said before, unique to MEA was that it was supposed to turn the page and show ME in a better light and serve as a soft reboot. Instead, it blew up in EA's face and made things worse.
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heathenoxman
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Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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heathenoxman
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by heathenoxman on Sept 9, 2017 17:47:25 GMT
Dead Space didn't gather half the toxicity MEA had. First, you said BioWare would release DLC because the game was profitable, and now, you say they never intended in the first place, a first in ages, do you even realize how non-sensical you sound? Agree, but I have already made peace with the idea that some people here will defend MEA no matter what. They will try ti divert any time of negative news for MEA as something neutral. More like the glass being half full instead of half empty. In their mind, they will not allow the narrative that MEA was a failure run unchallenged. So for them it is much easier to believe that MEA not getting DLC wasnt cause of its failure/review scores/reception, but rather something that EA planned well before MEA released. In the case of smilesja and company, it is a matter of continuously changing the narrative to something that is positive for MEA. First it wad MEA was a successful game and EA will not miss out on the profit to be made so there will be DLC and Jason S. is wrong and looking for clicks. Now it is MEA was successful, but EA just wants to focus on Anthem and this decision was made before release. So MEA could have crushed DAI in sales and review scores and could have been hailed as the best Bioware game ever made and a runaway candidate for GOTY.....and EA would still not do DLC cause....Anthem. At least with people like us, our narrative remains the same today as it was back in April/May, which is that MEA was not the game it could have been and will not receive DLC anf most likely will not recieve a direct sequel. I liked MEA, but I know when to call a spade a spade. It wasn't popular, and I doubt it's ever going to get a direct sequel. When the no DLC rumors started spreading, I didn't want to believe it, but, I've always said, where there's smoke, there's fire. I think MEA ultimately sank in the toxic bog of social media.
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Post by smilesja on Sept 9, 2017 17:52:38 GMT
There were a vocal amount of people who dislike a lot of aspects of ME3 and consider it a bad RPG. It was just buried under the ending outrage. As there were for ME2 and ME1 and DAO. However those games still reviewed well. And ME3 wasnt Bioware's lowest reviewed game, but MEA is. And like I said before, unique to MEA was that it was supposed to turn the page and show ME in a better light and serve as a soft reboot. Instead, it blew up in EA's face and made things worse. The reviews ME3 got were accused by people of corrupt games media and was considered pre gamergate.
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Post by smilesja on Sept 9, 2017 17:53:22 GMT
Agree, but I have already made peace with the idea that some people here will defend MEA no matter what. They will try ti divert any time of negative news for MEA as something neutral. More like the glass being half full instead of half empty. In their mind, they will not allow the narrative that MEA was a failure run unchallenged. So for them it is much easier to believe that MEA not getting DLC wasnt cause of its failure/review scores/reception, but rather something that EA planned well before MEA released. In the case of smilesja and company, it is a matter of continuously changing the narrative to something that is positive for MEA. First it wad MEA was a successful game and EA will not miss out on the profit to be made so there will be DLC and Jason S. is wrong and looking for clicks. Now it is MEA was successful, but EA just wants to focus on Anthem and this decision was made before release. So MEA could have crushed DAI in sales and review scores and could have been hailed as the best Bioware game ever made and a runaway candidate for GOTY.....and EA would still not do DLC cause....Anthem. At least with people like us, our narrative remains the same today as it was back in April/May, which is that MEA was not the game it could have been and will not receive DLC anf most likely will not recieve a direct sequel. I liked MEA, but I know when to call a spade a spade. It wasn't popular, and I doubt it's ever going to get a direct sequel. When the no DLC rumors started spreading, I didn't want to believe it, but, I've always said, where there's smoke, there's fire. I think MEA ultimately sank in the toxic bog of social media. Eh I would say mixed, there are still many people who like it as well.
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