Predict the romances of DA4

I'm going to have to disagree on a lot of this, having just looked over the comics again. 

While she says she just sees Aaron as a meal ticket, you can tell from her thoughts and actions that that isn't entirely true. A prme example is when she hears his words, she changes her mind about helping Tessa and Marius get the journal. 

She did not steal for the cheap thrill. She steals so that she could give the money to those who are in need of it like the City Elves. Plus its not like she steals from good people. 

And no, she immediately steps in and acts out a situation to save his life. I know the panel you are referring to, when he is making up a story and she is hiding behind the wall, but that clearly shows her being touched by his actions and in the next panel she repays it by coming forth. 

That she has to lie to herself that way shows her racism. I mean, I think fact she's racist is a given, and that she struggles to reconcile it with her fondness for ser Arron part of her supposed "interest."

She could steal from any noble at the party but instead she steals from Celene. You actually believe this isn't a psychological power play on her part? That it's all very noble Robin Hood of her to pick her Target that way? Doesn't Charter even imply to her that she's caused Intracountry tension? The alienages she helps doesn't give a fuq about whether the proceeds came from Orlesian Noble A or the Empress. Vaea cares. Vaea cares because she gets off on stealing from difficult noble targets she wants to knock down a peg. Celene probably doesn't give that much of a crap about a lost necklace though, so this is all in Vaeas racist head.

Be fond of her, I don't judge anybody who is, but I read the comic myself so my impressions are my own. I personally LOVE city elf origin over every other Origin so it's not like I was pre inclined before reading to think badly of her. She has issues she need recognizes and still has. She finally decided Ser Arron was worth her begrudging affection but that means he's just an exception to her racism.

I vehemently disagree that her trying to keep her emotional distance from Aaron is a sign of her racism. Looking at her past, the reason why she does it is clear: it is a defense mechanism. As a child she lost her parents, then later she loses her uncle who became a father figure to her after her parents died. Now this new man has show up and is also being like a father figure, so she doesn't want to get hurt again. If she was racist against humans, she would just have refused t go with him when he offered. Now I'm not saying she wasn't racist, since as a child she was but in that scene we see that perception change when her uncle explains that there are good humans as well as bad humans and they shouldn't all be seen as the same. Aaron is an example of a good human, so that's why she goes with him. And he's not the only "exception to her racism" as you put it. There is also Sebastian, whom would be a perfect target except she realizes he is not like the corrupt people she targets.

As for stealing, first I'm having doubts about her stealing from Celene. I saw that panel as just being more an imaginary example to show the connection between Aaron's visits and Vaea's thefts. Even if she did actually steal from Celene in the middle of a crowded ball room, no I don't think it was a psychological play on her part. It seems you are mixing her personality with Sera. For Sera it is all about that power play, but Vaea it is much simpler: steals from someone who deserves it and has more than enough, then give it to those who are in need. So yes, I do think it is all being a Robin Hood(who by the way stole from Prince John personally on numerous occasions), her color scheme even references his with the green, red, and white. 
As for Charter, no she never says anything like that. The only one who does is the antagonist of the comic, since he is trying to sow the seeds of racism and distrust so when he steals the journal everyone will blame Vaea. And even then, he never says it causes diplomatic incidents. 

There is a huge difference between "Don't die for him" and "Let him die". Charter doesn't want Tessa to just leave Marius alone and let him be killed, but rather not to make the sacrificial play. And yes, it is love since Tessa's internal monologue after that scene confirms that. But according to your argument, in this case the romances for the protagonist where LIs say this are just the LIs being possessive, selfish, and asking the protagonist to do self-destructive things.

And then he's murdered by humans. So how does his instruction get supported in any way?



why would I do this, I wasn't thinking of Sera at all during this whole discussion. I sometimes forget that Sera is even really an elf, she's not on my radar much as anybody but a person. Her rebellions are also totally random, there is no organization, there is no planning.

I think it's odd to claim that she didn't steal from Celene when it was in a comic about her and her stealing habits.

Anyway. I dislike Charter for being a selfish unprofessional brat. I dislike Vaea for being a racist selfish kleptomaniac. That they are both city elves are incidental. I have no interest in touching either of them romantically.

My hope is to don't have romance in any BioWare game any longer.

Okay, I haven't read any other post as I want to give my thoughts without having awesome ideas implanted in my brain...

First off, I'm going to assume they are going for similar sexuality distribution as they had in DA:I. I also think we might get less options this time around sadly.

Female homosexual (bisexual?) Qunari
We've seen precious few female Qunari, but with them being introduced more in both comics and Trespasser I think we'll finally get one as a companion. It's also possible she's bisexual (I actually don't think she would be heterosexual, they tend to be careful with the LIs for men and give them "safe" options like humans or elves). Perhaps a Tal-Vashot that disagrees with the war and wants it to end? Or, perhaps an escaped Saarebaas? Yeah, I'm going with mage on this one. 

Male bisexual dwarf
Okay, this is probably wishful thinking, but it would be so cool to finally have a dwarf LI! This one could perhaps be from Kal-Sharok or a descendent from the dwarves who lived there? Now working as a warrior life-guard for some magister because they are resilient to magic?

Female bisexual dwarf
Well, this is obviously Harding. With how popular she became it wouldn't surprise me if she became a companion and a LI. It would be nice to see a familiar face! A rogue naturally. 

Female bisexual (heterosexual?) human
There's been at least one in every game, I doubt this would be an exception. Got to have that "safe" options for guys. What her role would be though... hard to say. I'm thinking she'll be a rogue though, so perhaps she'll have a connection to the Inquisition. 

Male heterosexual human
Again, had one in every game, and we need a "safe" option for women. I'm hoping this one at least will look a bit different, Alistair, Anders and Cullen do have similar looks. Maybe a magister/altus? 

Male homosexual elf
We've never had a homosexual male elf, so it's about time! I'm thinking he's involved with an underground slave rebellion.

Female heterosexual/bisexual elf
This one I'm very unsure about. An escaped slave? Someone who joined Solas' cause but then defected?   

I think we will have around the same number of options, maybe even a couple more since MEA had 10(well 9 since Avela isn't counted ).
If they have 8 like DAI, I'm hoping for an even 2/2/2 distribution with the other 2 being the extra romances, extra in the sense that they get the same resources as the other romances but might be seen as controversial to some players without being put into their 2 options. For example an Asexual/Demisexual character or Maevaris if they want to do a trans romance. 
If they have 10 like MEA, then pretty much the same thing but with the distribution being 2/4/2 with two being extra. 

I like the idea but for one thing: I would prefer it to happen during the game instead of being a thing of the past. It could start subtly, with the person your character loves acting increasingly inconsistent until the threat is fully recognized.

I just would prefer my character to experience the interesting thing personally instead of it merely being a thing of the past to be uncovered through dialogue.

mumble, mumble, mumble, personal mission, mumble, mumble, wee bang, mumble, no more conversation

Alistair? He was 21, though, and he was intentionally sheltered in a cloister. I suppose Sebastion as well, if you don't diss him for his hedonistic promiscuity prior to his turning to Andraste.

Thedas is a hard place. It's hard to get very far in life without doing damage. How about a Male Lace HArding? Just some farm boy who knows his way round? Sutherland?

Cullen?