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Post by KrrKs on Jan 30, 2022 20:30:47 GMT
Don't you mean, "Farpoint Station" ? (curious) I don't remember there ever being a "unity station" in any of the TNG episodes Nah, sorry, I meant this weird thingy: Unity OneThere were ports of that model into one of the armada games.
Though apparently that station itself is from SFC3, and not A Final Unity.
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 2, 2022 18:00:07 GMT
This is nice! twitter linkI believe I never played hidden evil or sfc3. Having BC and EF1 back and working will be awesome Do you remember "Star Trek: A Final Unity" ? That game as amazing for its time and appluaded for rendering the physical likeness of each of the main TNG characters, as well as getting each of the actors to reprise the voice roles......But even on "EASY" it was riduculously hard. I never made it past the first away mission. I gave up on it after a very short time because it was impossible to play. To this day I have no clue how the story progresses or what the conclusion is. I still play it again whenever I rewatch TNG (which is more often than you'd think ). To me, this game is fully part of TNG canon. Truly a fantastic game and a true classic. It wasn't really that difficult. In fact, the puzzles on the missions were much MUCH more logical than most P&P adventures at the time. You just had to scan everything with your tricorder and read the analysis texts to get all the hints. The only really difficult (and not so great) part were the space battles. You could delegate those to Worf but that was kinda useless since he would actually fail in quite a lot of them. The trick there was to take manual control and play it like a Wing Commander game (which was a bit ridiculous when you think of the Enterprise D ). Just fly straight at them and shove 10 photon torpedoes up their butts and you could make it even through the most difficult fights fairly ok. So yeah, awesome game. The ending is particularly good (spoiler: the "good" ending is somewhat hidden, though). Still love it. Wish it would come out on GOG but fortunately, I still have an ISO of my original disc version and can run it with DosBox without any trouble.
Don't you mean, "Farpoint Station" ? (curious) I don't remember there ever being a "unity station" in any of the TNG episodes Nah, sorry, I meant this weird thingy: Unity OneThere were ports of that model into one of the armada games.
Though apparently that station itself is from SFC3, and not A Final Unity.
I don't think this has anything to do with the "A Final Unity" game. There is no such station in it, the only Starbases you can visit in AFU are the standard mushroom shaped Federation Starbases, that we know since the TOS movie era ( Cutscene). The one you linked there looks more like it's inspired by Starbase 375 from DS9.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2022 20:59:06 GMT
Teaser for Strange New Worlds. ***
"Nope, it was always intended to be 3 and done."
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Post by AnDromedary on Mar 9, 2022 21:01:46 GMT
Teaser for Strange New Worlds. ***
"Nope, it was always intended to be 3 and done."
That is good to hear. Better to finish it up and give it a decent endpoint rather than dragging things out.
Also, New Worlds teaser looks awesome. Looks like a good compromise between the classic TOS look and the new modern optics that Discovery didn't really manage IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2022 21:19:00 GMT
That is good to hear. Better to finish it up and give it a decent endpoint rather than dragging things out. Makes me hope they have a decent conclusion if they knew it'd be 3 seasons before going in. I liked the first season of Picard in spite of having criticisms. Not sure what to make of the second yet. Premise seems low stakes and tropey, but with a lot of potential to be entertaining and funny. Pretty big Picard S2E1 spoilers below. Q! I'll suspend my disbelief on a gibbet for another performance of Q. I loved that they handwaved Guinan's age away too. "We didn't bother with a good reason for her to age, she just said she can and we ran with it." I honestly appreciate that more than them try-harding it. Spoiler within a spoiler, this is about the Season preview at the end of the episode. Fuck I hate time-travel. It makes everything they're doing feel irrelevant. I lost a bit of steam when I saw the season relies on it heavily.
I hope Q can push things forward.
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Post by AnDromedary on Mar 9, 2022 21:57:15 GMT
Dam, that Leonard Nimoy voice imitation is not too shabby.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 2:57:00 GMT
Picard S2Ep2 Spoiler: Concept Art
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 10:40:48 GMT
Could you see pre-beard Riker owning a water-bed?
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Post by AnDromedary on Mar 16, 2022 18:30:57 GMT
Watched the first two episodes of Picard season 2. I like it so far. We'll have to see where the story goes from here but it feels a little more TNG-ish than season 1. And finally, we see the real Starfleet again, both in terms of ships and in attitude. Yay! One thing I'll say, John De Lancie really knocked it out of the park in his appearance. It wasn't long so far but boy was it intense. What a great return of a slightly different Q. Can't wait to see what's actually going on with him.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 30, 2022 5:36:16 GMT
Well, we saw Starfleet for a little while, anyway.
I'm liking S2 quite a bit so far. Definitely seeing some misplaced nerdrage about continuity; Time's Arrow/ Time's Circle never happened in the new timeline, after all.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 30, 2022 11:05:56 GMT
I must say given how poorly it seems they have done with both Disco season 4 and Picard Season 2 so far (haven't been watching yet but my goodness the spoilers I have seen are the ultimate in cringe horror) while I must say Strange New Worlds has me hella hyped and the trailers look good I am rather nervous about it. And...I can't believe I'm about to say this...but I hope for some good ole fashion Star Trek generalities rather then specific moral preaching that they have been embarking upon.
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Post by hoku on Mar 30, 2022 18:06:34 GMT
Picard season 2 is such an improvement on season 1 with it's story and pacing, but I hope the story doesn't turn out to be such a dud like toward the end of season 1. Would love to watch a Cristobal Rios-centered mini-series or show. Shame they merged many/all of his very entertaining holos though Cautiously optimistic for Strange New Worlds and their first couple of episodes. Love the change from blue to warm lightning on the bridge. Especially looking forward to New Uhura. My current favorite (Lower Decks) will only return later this year unfortunately.
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Post by hoku on Apr 1, 2022 0:02:36 GMT
ugh I jinxed Picard it seems... (rough new episode: throwing away storylines while over stuffing the episode and fast forwarding it all at the same time): story pacing really is still a big issue for all live action streaming Trek's so far. There have been lots of SNW character sneak peaks released in the last few days btw.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 21:20:04 GMT
Spoilers for Picard S2 Ep5 The phone number on the card Soong's 3d printer makes for Q is a real number.
This is what you get when you call it.
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Post by AnDromedary on Apr 5, 2022 22:05:07 GMT
Caught up on Picard over the weekend. I absolutely LOVE the season so far. It is such a vast improvement over the first one. I do realize there is potentially quite a bit of controversial stuff in it but I am on board with pretty much all of it so far. For example, I really REALLY liked the new young Guinan. I realize, it may not quite make sense but then, hey, we had the two Pike actors in the same freaking episode before, so this is fine with me and the actress does a bloody fantastic job IMO. Love the Borg queen, love most of the 21st century stuff so far, the main cast are also IMO much improved from last season, so so far so good. Also, I love how many easter eggs they crammed into the LA bits without it becoming overbearing or too fan service-y (ok, maybe the punk on the bus was but come on, I literally loled at that one so it was good ). You really have to watch out for most of them (or check the internet hive mind for help) but there is some great stuff in there. Now, there is some questionable things for sure. e.g. the fact that Ten Forward exists in the 21st century is super weird because the pun doesn't even work yet, they overdid it on that one. Also some cringe moments like when Picard leaves Jurati alone with the Borg queen, come on Picard.
Also for me personally, Elnor's death was a weird moment because coming from s1 I still thought Elnor is a crappy character, so when he died I was like "yes!" while everybody, especially Raffi were obviously grieving. Not necessarily the plots fault in that moment but I don't know, the ELnor character just never worked for me, so it threw me out of sync with the characters quite a bit. I agree with hoku though that the last episode was the weakest one so far and it does seem at this point that the plot is a bit all over the place. I have no idea where they are going with all this yet but I really do hope they'll get it to a decent conclusion because I really like the season so far. Unfortunately, they don't have the best track record on this from s1 but after 4 - in my humble opinion - splendid episodes and one that was ok, I am happy to give them another chance. 🤞 Also, finished watching Discovery s4 (this is already been a week or so ago but still, since I am here). Discovery still frustrates me with it's tendency to have it's characters give these over-inspirational speeches with lot's of hollow phrases and this weird spelling out of what should really be subtext. It's like the characters are all psycho-analyzing each other all the time. It just doesn't feel very natural to me and that persists in this series right up to the s4 finale. That said, I really liked the conclusion of the main plot, especially the second to last episode where they have to figure out the way to communicate with the aliens. That as some very fine Star Trek, well done.
Not so well done were Booker and Tarka. I just never could get behind their whole reasoning, so their constant refusal to work with everybody else seemed mainly petulant and doomed to fail anyway. There was neither empathy on my part, nor tension there. Hardly have I ever seen worse antagonists. Fortunately, they were never the main obsticle here and the plot did well to concentrate more on the aliens. Finally, Books magical save was probably the lamest moment since Picard's fake death in his season 1.
Sorry, fell back into criticizing again here but... All in all, I think s4 was very decent and I am happy to say that Discovery seems to roll smoother with every season. Though season 2 with Pike is still my favorite (not least because of the Captain himself) and therefore - and because I am quite pleased with most of the new Trek in the last year so far - I am quite a bit hyped about New Worlds. We got a ton of trailers in the last 2 weeks or so and they look fantastic to me. The way they are blending the old TOS style with the new Discovery-style aesthetic looks really cool so far and the characters seem pretty interesting, judging by their little vignette teaser videos. Bring it on New Worlds, you got me excited.
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Post by AnDromedary on Apr 6, 2022 0:04:32 GMT
Ok, I am so sorry for the triple post but this cannot wait: They took their time, they set it up but goddammit, we are finally getting there. They are putting the band back together for the grand finale!
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Post by colfoley on Apr 7, 2022 0:24:55 GMT
Can't believe no one has posted a link to the SNWs trailer. Pretty optomistic and hyped for this though there is some caution for this. Yet Pike was the absolute man so we'll see if they can continue to pull it off.
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Post by hoku on Apr 7, 2022 19:24:17 GMT
the reveal of a certain character showing up in SNW season 2 certainly immediately dimmed my excitement unfortunately. small galaxy syndrome, Kirk becoming like Skylwalker. the Paramount+ Trek live action writers certainly use all the classic characters and actors crutches they can get. Don't mind classic characters or fan service, IF it's organic and we mainly get NEW stories and adventures, not gap fillers or re-do's. Still looking forward to SNW. BSN just isn't my main Trek source / discussion place Love the brighter/warmer visuals (bridge lightning, colorful uniforms, retro-futurist design) like the expanded (classic) cast of characters like Mount since Hell on Wheels, NewUhura, the 2 Doctors, Una) looking forward to a more episodic structure, since clearly current live action streaming Trek hasn't covered itself in any glory with any of the Disco/Picard arcs.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 7, 2022 20:24:16 GMT
the reveal of a certain character showing up in SNW season 2 certainly immediately dimmed my excitement unfortunately. small galaxy syndrome, Kirk becoming like Skylwalker. the Paramount+ Trek live action writers certainly use all the classic characters and actors crutches they can get. Don't mind classic characters or fan service, IF it's organic and we mainly get NEW stories and adventures, not gap fillers or re-do's. Still looking forward to SNW. BSN just isn't my main Trek source / discussion place Love the brighter/warmer visuals (bridge lightning, colorful uniforms, retro-futurist design) like the expanded (classic) cast of characters like Mount since Hell on Wheels, NewUhura, the 2 Doctors, Una) looking forward to a more episodic structure, since clearly current live action streaming Trek hasn't covered itself in any glory with any of the Disco/Picard arcs. I do have two general comments on this.
First of all from the general fandom perspective neccessarily which may not be that great for a personal conversation but it is also what Paramount has to be looking at...Star Trek fans have really been giving a lot of crap to New Trek in general...and to be fair looking at Picard and Discovery season 4 I can't say I am a fan of all the decisions they have been making...but on the one hand you have a very vocal group of people who want new things and not keep on reusing the same stuff, but then they give us new stuff and its hated in general. Discovery tried to do a lot new even from the beginning and has been getting a lot of 'this isn't Trek' stuff. Meanwhile you have Anson Mount as Pike reprising an already established character that has been portrayed by at least two different people and while we haven't had a lot of time with him, he is a known element...instand near universal praise for season 2 from what I can tell. This led to a massive fan desire to see a new show on The Enterprise of all things under Pike.
Point 2...they were going to do this. I am surprised they are doing it this early but it was definitley going to be a thing. Though to the top point we still don't know how much Kirk is going to be invovled. Is it going to be an episode as he has his own ship working with the Enterprise? An Arc? Or will he be a regular cast member. My fan fear theory is that we will lose Una/ Number One this season either to promotion or death...and Kirk will be Pike's first officer moving forward. Which will suck because I am really excited to see Rebecca Romin as Number One. And I will say to your other point that normally I am a fan of more arc television...why watch something if its not going to matter long term? but overall I agree. Discovery has kind of been all over the place in the quality of its arcs and Picard does not seem to be much better. So yeah I am not hoping for episodic storytelling in full but I am kinda looking forward to maybe more optimistic Trek to I guess...I don't know how exactly to word this...but just Trek that does not try and deal so much with real world stuff, that is my hope.
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So apparently the Borg Collective shall now be known as the Borg Cooperative.
"Would you like to add your technological and biological distinctiveness to our own? We have brochures for you to read!"
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Post by Heimdall on May 1, 2022 0:09:00 GMT
Stumbled across on Twitter: wow, is Picard S2 that bad? I haven’t touched it yet.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on May 1, 2022 3:01:01 GMT
Stumbled across on Twitter: wow, is Picard S2 that bad? I haven’t touched it yet. I didn't watch Discovery or Picard but I watched the detailed breakdown of each ep on YT so I know what it's like. Neither of these two series are the epitome of Star Trek. This is of course imo.
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Post by hoku on May 1, 2022 6:40:51 GMT
Picard S2 started with an interesting premise and slightly improved writing, then got a mess quickly, suffers from the same pacing and logic issues just as Discovery or easier said any live action Streaming Trek so far.
Strange New Worlds is at least visually already shaping up to be awesome with the plenty of light (so you can actually see things), plenty of colors and lots of warm/comfortable ones to booth. Fingers crossed the writing and pacing is decent at least.
Here is the opening in 4K (very Voyager/Prodigy like - looks awesome IMO)
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Post by KrrKs on May 1, 2022 17:40:13 GMT
Stumbled across on Twitter: wow, is Picard S2 that bad? I haven’t touched it yet. *snip I don't watch disco, so i can't compare to that. But as hoku said: The second picard season started of good, and then became a mess of internal logic problems.
Overall, I think s2 is better than s1 though. The first two episodes were pretty good*, overall its still only in the better half of 'meh' territory though. Episode 3 to 9 have several hard facepalm moments that kind of ruin the better moments for me.
Maybe s2 works better when binging all at once, as there are also several instances of weird pacing so far.
*If you can overlook the details to nitpick about - but that's true for every star trek episode, i guess.
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