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Post by alanc9 on Oct 4, 2017 17:00:22 GMT
And for me, DA3 remains a game where all characters are inexplicably ugly, male and female vs what character creator provides, and i have no idea why. FWIW, one of my Inquisitors turned out to look exactly like Ser Ruth. If there's a difference between CC product and NPCs, it's in the skill and tastes of the operator.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Oct 4, 2017 17:23:36 GMT
FWIW, one of my Inquisitors turned out to look exactly like Ser Ruth. If there's a difference between CC product and NPCs, it's in the skill and tastes of the operator. This is only partially accurate. While this applies to the vast majority of your run-of-the-mill NPC, even some named, important ones, followers and other significant NPCs tend to get unique face textures and a unique look that isn't able to be replicated by the CC. This happened with both DAI and MEA. In fact, one of the things players were raging about over the MEA romance debacle was that both of the m/m options got CC faces, making them not unique (and thus less deemed as less important by the devs, since they put out less effort). Also, fwiw, I think my male Inquisitor is totally hot, and even though I'm on PC, I use NO CC mods at all.
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 4, 2017 17:35:22 GMT
I saw a lot of sexy ladies in Dragon Age Inquisition, most notably Leliana. Anyways, I have no objection to the presence of gays or transgender people in Dragon Age, since the setting has always been friendly to both. I also don't have a problem with the presence of people of colour in Inquisition. Some of my best RPG characters are black. Nonetheless, I do perceive certain patterns emerging. One need only look at the ranks of the Inquisition, which look like the cast of Rent, and compare it to the ranks of Corypheus' servants, who look more like the cast of Downfall (the Hitler bunker movie). Just look at these fucks! What I fear is this shit getting out of hand. I mean, Dragon Age is supposed to be a fairly dark fantasy setting — not Witcher dark, not Dark Souls dark, not Berserk dark, not W40K dark, but certainly darker than Final Fantasy: Male Models Riding in Cars. I can already feel it in my gut that one of the straight male LI options (assuming there are any) is going to be Maevaris, and the romance is going to be a very special episode of Dragon Age 4 where we learn that you should be deeply ashamed if you don't find transgender or non-binary women as attractive as cisgendered women. SHAME ON YOU. YOU'RE WORSE THAN CORYPHEUS. If Dragon Age 4 opened with a time skip and a cut scene where two men discuss how slavery came to an end in Tevinter 10 years before — with no economic repurcussions whatsoever! — and then they kiss and go skipping down the road holding hands, I would not be shocked.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Oct 4, 2017 18:27:05 GMT
Meh. Inquisition didn't have brothels and I didn't really notice the loss.
I got to see Sera's tits, Dorian's ass and Cullen's pecks.
My thirst was thoroughly satisfied.
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Post by majesticjazz on Oct 4, 2017 18:47:33 GMT
Oh please, you cannot with a straight face say that DAI is on the same tone as DAO/DA2 where you could kill Connor, sell off an elf to be raped be a blood mage, sell a party member into slavery, see your mother become a half dead bride, wipe out an entire village of innocent elves and much more. Why was the desire demon look not carried over to DAI? The desire demon look was just cheap cheesecake. Anyway, it doesn't make much sense to have them all look the same. The look didn't do anything for most of my female PCs. As for the rest, I'm not sure letting the PC slip into mustache-twirling evil is really all that relevant for tone. The dark tones from DA:O and DA2 make stuff dark when things happen despite the PC. I'm not so much disagreeing with you as saying that you're pointing to the wrong things. The larger issue (and why I bring up Desire Demons) is that supposedly (I have not found the source but I am searching) that Bioware has mentioned that they were a bit ashamed about some of the content they put out in their early games and now that they are mainstream, they are more self conscious about the type of content they put out. I believe Gaider or Weeekes mentioned something about that. In addition (again, need to find link), Bioware admitted that they have been influenced by LGBT groups, womens advocates etc and wants to make their games more inclusive and something that everyone can feel comfortable playing instead of just straight males. If all that is to be true, then the Desirr demon situation along with the lack of brothels could be a result of Bioware being influenced by internal or external factors. Not saying that is bad, but to some people see it as a double standard. They do not want any overly sexualized women like Isabella because they dont want ti exploit women but yet we get Iron bull who was a overly sexualized male and yet that is okay. Kind of ties into the MEA default Scott and default Sara Ryder stuff. The female Ryder was toned down from the model who provided the look by not having makeup and other stuff. Whereas the default Scott Ryder looks very similar to the male model and no signs of "toning" him down. Again, the double standard that males can be sexualized but women can't because this may piss off women gamers believing that women are exploited in videogames. Again, this leads to a much larger discussion that would need a thread of its own.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Oct 4, 2017 18:49:54 GMT
The leak didn't mention any brothels but then again it's probably inconsequential.
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 4, 2017 18:55:21 GMT
The leak didn't mention any brothels but then again it's probably inconsequential. Quit pushing your fake news. There's already two threads about this nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 18:56:01 GMT
Who cares about brothels, I just want hat shops and bakeries.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 4, 2017 19:05:25 GMT
Who cares about brothels, I just want hat shops and bakeries. Whatever busts your nut, I guess....
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 4, 2017 19:16:24 GMT
Who cares about brothels, I just want hat shops and bakeries. I hope they sell frilly cakes in Tevinter! Otherwise IMMERSION BROKEN!
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 4, 2017 19:20:36 GMT
*drinks*
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Post by shechinah on Oct 4, 2017 19:22:53 GMT
To me, it actually comes across as more of an intimate moment with the LI than it would if they had gone into the ballroom. Yeah, I prefer the quiet, private dance on the balcony underneath the night sky. Seems more intimate and really, more romantic.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 4, 2017 19:23:16 GMT
Frilly cakes is an Orlesian thing. Tevinter will do something original with their pastries. They are in the right part of the world to have lots of things made from chocolate.
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 4, 2017 19:29:02 GMT
Mashed Potatoes Marius from the comics kills a Venatori with poisoned treats. This obviously could not have been done by any run-of-the-mill assassin, as it required the specialized tray-holding skills of a magekiller.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 19:38:35 GMT
And for me, DA3 remains a game where all characters are inexplicably ugly, male and female vs what character creator provides, and i have no idea why. FWIW, one of my Inquisitors turned out to look exactly like Ser Ruth. If there's a difference between CC product and NPCs, it's in the skill and tastes of the operator. Well, Iron Bull, Blackwall and Solas all look way uglier than an elf, Qunari or a human male I can make in the creator. In fact, there is a mod that changes only a skin tone on Solas and adds dark stubble to his skull and that tiny tweak alone makes him look handsome rather than nightmarish. That's what I don't understand... I understand randomly generated models being ugly because of random combinations or just not enough time like with Floriane, but why not change things a tiny bit? And Iron Bull? Every other male Qunari looked gorgeous in three games, even when they looked the most inhuman in DA2, but the Iron Bull? And they purposely created the only overweight avatar for a bisexual romantic option with the only Qunari we are allowed to romance? While there was no other overweight character in the whole of Thedas? I don't understand what drives these descisions. If Iron Bull, Solas and Blackwall's appearances were supposed to draw in me as a female gamer and welcome me... I am gonna say that DA2 did a far better job in that department, and so did DAO. All I wanted was a better wardrobe so my char was not looking mousy next to Isabela. And Zevran was sexualized before Isabela was... so... I don't get it. It makes no sense.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 19:38:40 GMT
Mashed Potatoes Marius from the comics kills a Venatori with poisoned treats. This obviously could not have been done by any run-of-the-mill assassin, as it required the specialized tray-holding skills of a magekiller. I am offended because I happen to like mashed potatoes...the real ones.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 4, 2017 19:41:34 GMT
Someone had to make the treats and lace them with poison in an undetectable way; that takes skill!
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 4, 2017 19:53:46 GMT
FWIW, one of my Inquisitors turned out to look exactly like Ser Ruth. If there's a difference between CC product and NPCs, it's in the skill and tastes of the operator. Well, Iron Bull, Blackwall and Solas all look way uglier than an elf, Qunari or a human male I can make in the creator. In fact, there is a mod that changes only a skin tone on Solas and adds dark stubble to his skull and that tiny tweak alone makes him look handsome rather than nightmarish. That's what I don't understand... I understand randomly generated models being ugly because of random combinations or just not enough time like with Floriane, but why not change things a tiny bit? And Iron Bull? Every other male Qunari looked gorgeous in three games, even when they looked the most inhuman in DA2, but the Iron Bull? And they purposely created the only overweight avatar for a bisexual romantic option with the only Qunari we are allowed to romance? While there was no other overweight character in the whole of Thedas? I don't understand what drives these descisions. If Iron Bull, Solas and Blackwall's appearances were supposed to draw in me as a female gamer and welcome me... I am gonna say that DA2 did a far better job in that department, and so did DAO. All I wanted was a better wardrobe so my char was not looking mousy next to Isabela. And Zevran was sexualized before Isabela was... so... I don't get it. It makes no sense. People like or don't like different things and what some find ugly will be pretty or ok for others. I, for example, will never understand decisions that made Morrigan look the way she did in DAO, especially the bizarre lips. I have to use mods every time I play DAO. To say that she looks a ton better in DAI is an understatement. But that's just me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 20:02:05 GMT
Well, Iron Bull, Blackwall and Solas all look way uglier than an elf, Qunari or a human male I can make in the creator. In fact, there is a mod that changes only a skin tone on Solas and adds dark stubble to his skull and that tiny tweak alone makes him look handsome rather than nightmarish. That's what I don't understand... I understand randomly generated models being ugly because of random combinations or just not enough time like with Floriane, but why not change things a tiny bit? And Iron Bull? Every other male Qunari looked gorgeous in three games, even when they looked the most inhuman in DA2, but the Iron Bull? And they purposely created the only overweight avatar for a bisexual romantic option with the only Qunari we are allowed to romance? While there was no other overweight character in the whole of Thedas? I don't understand what drives these descisions. If Iron Bull, Solas and Blackwall's appearances were supposed to draw in me as a female gamer and welcome me... I am gonna say that DA2 did a far better job in that department, and so did DAO. All I wanted was a better wardrobe so my char was not looking mousy next to Isabela. And Zevran was sexualized before Isabela was... so... I don't get it. It makes no sense. People like or don't like different things and what some find ugly will be pretty or ok for others. I, for example, will never understand decisions that made Morrigan look the way she did in DAO, especially the bizarre lips. I have to use mods every time I play DAO. To say that she looks a ton better in DAI is an understatement. But that's just me. Well, unfortunately modding is limited in DAI for the NPC character models, and all the reskin companions mods crush the DLCs, so BioWare's presentation is pretty much final for DAI. I would rather they would lean more towards what they did in DA2 and DAO than in DAI. Of course, there maybe players who find Anders unattractive, because his nose is too long or his lips are too thin, or whatnot, but I think overall, there is the intent to make him handsome. While in DAI, I can definetly see they wanted to make Dorian handsome, but not the other male companions. I understand the extreme pallor on Cullen to an extent, and maybe Solas was not intended to be romanced, but both Bull and Blackwall were the original romantic options, and both of them do not look like leading men.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 4, 2017 20:12:47 GMT
People like or don't like different things and what some find ugly will be pretty or ok for others. I, for example, will never understand decisions that made Morrigan look the way she did in DAO, especially the bizarre lips. I have to use mods every time I play DAO. To say that she looks a ton better in DAI is an understatement. But that's just me. Well, unfortunately modding is limited in DAI for the NPC character models, and all the reskin companions mods crush the DLCs, so BioWare's presentation is pretty much final for DAI. I would rather they would lean more towards what they did in DA2 and DAO than in DAI. Of course, there maybe players who find Anders unattractive, because his nose is too long or his lips are too thin, or whatnot, but I think overall, there is the intent to make him handsome. While in DAI, I can definetly see they wanted to make Dorian handsome, but not the other male companions. I understand the extreme pallor on Cullen to an extent, and maybe Solas was not intended to be romanced, but both Bull and Blackwall were the original romantic options, and both of them do not look like leading men. It's not so limited that people can't do anything about them and recently a modder has created extensive modding tools for Frostbite, so mod-mania is only about to begin. Plus, just look what happens if you get rid of Blackwall's beard: And again, different preferences for different people. I find Solas handsome and am not offended by Cullen's extreme pallor (he's pale? Haha, you haven't seen me then), plus the general consensus seems to be that Cullen's as cute as a golden retriever.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 4, 2017 20:35:31 GMT
Blackwell has a punchable face without the beard.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 4, 2017 20:41:37 GMT
The desire demon look was just cheap cheesecake. Anyway, it doesn't make much sense to have them all look the same. The look didn't do anything for most of my female PCs. As for the rest, I'm not sure letting the PC slip into mustache-twirling evil is really all that relevant for tone. The dark tones from DA:O and DA2 make stuff dark when things happen despite the PC. I'm not so much disagreeing with you as saying that you're pointing to the wrong things. The larger issue (and why I bring up Desire Demons) is that supposedly (I have not found the source but I am searching) that Bioware has mentioned that they were a bit ashamed about some of the content they put out in their early games and now that they are mainstream, they are more self conscious about the type of content they put out. I believe Gaider or Weeekes mentioned something about that. In addition (again, need to find link), Bioware admitted that they have been influenced by LGBT groups, womens advocates etc and wants to make their games more inclusive and something that everyone can feel comfortable playing instead of just straight males. If all that is to be true, then the Desirr demon situation along with the lack of brothels could be a result of Bioware being influenced by internal or external factors. Not saying that is bad, but to some people see it as a double standard. They do not want any overly sexualized women like Isabella because they dont want ti exploit women but yet we get Iron bull who was a overly sexualized male and yet that is okay. Kind of ties into the MEA default Scott and default Sara Ryder stuff. The female Ryder was toned down from the model who provided the look by not having makeup and other stuff. Whereas the default Scott Ryder looks very similar to the male model and no signs of "toning" him down. Again, the double standard that males can be sexualized but women can't because this may piss off women gamers believing that women are exploited in videogames. Again, this leads to a much larger discussion that would need a thread of its own. I think it’s a bogus conspiracy theory considering Isabela appeared in a lot of Dragon Age media along with the multiplayer in DAI.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 4, 2017 20:45:46 GMT
I think it’s a bogus conspiracy theory considering Isabela appeared in a lot of Dragon Age media along with the multiplayer in DAI. Which makes me wonder if she's going to be back, now that it's canon that she worked for Inquisition for a while. It would make sense - she has a ship and IF DA4 takes the route of, say, Inquisition agents moving around the continent, especially Tevinter, she could help transport them or their equipment.
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Post by phoray on Oct 4, 2017 20:49:53 GMT
I don't care if we go off topic, although I didn't like the tone of some posters essentially scoffing at my concern, I did manage to get a few laughs out of your mocking me at the same time. Mixed bag.
I do hope sexy hedonistic Admiral Isabella makes a come back adn that we use her ship as a Moveable Camp.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 4, 2017 20:51:44 GMT
I think it’s a bogus conspiracy theory considering Isabela appeared in a lot of Dragon Age media along with the multiplayer in DAI. Which makes me wonder if she's going to be back, now that it's canon that she worked for Inquisition for a while. It would make sense - she has a ship and IF DA4 takes the route of, say, Inquisition agents moving around the continent, especially Tevinter, she could help transport them or their equipment. If we are going to be using ships, I much prefer going with Josephine than Isabela.
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